What if FF15 is absolute shit?

I don't feel like dealing with archive, just google it. Also it's 10 mil I just looked it up.

This.
At least it won't be about Toriyama's Waifu.

incoming Lightning DLC

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the Sad part about the brodudes is that i would be interest in the female characters they showed until now.

nigga you gotta work on your grammar and sentences

it will sell like hotcakes, 45% of gamers are female after all.

Would be easier if English would be my native language which is not sadly.

You have to go back, paco.

To be fair, FF15 was made during the prime time of Nardo 'tism so I'd honestly not be shocked to see it be 2005 Anime: The Vidya Game

I don't understand.

nice dubs

it isn't mine either, but if you have to post on an english website then you might as well learn it

They burned a fuckload of money. But then again, SE tends to go full retard when it comes to FF. They wasted massive amounts of cash with FF7 as well back in the day.

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lol what
It's also true they probably made that money back by putting their characters in real life ads

There is any doubt?

Have you played the most recent demo? It's fucking awful with kingdom hearts-tier combat, it's not even impressive visually.

Tetsuya Nomura has the inverse Midas touch; anything he touches turns to shit.

I will never understand what they were thinking.

How is a sausage party more interesting than a team consisting of a harem of hot chicks?

I have no idea how they expect to reach this without even releasing on all platforms

I personally don't own any of the consoles, so no, I haven't played it. Honestly I never had any problems in FF changing the gameplay around so far apart from what they did in 13. So I supposed it was just autists that want to go back to turn based that were complaining about it.

instead of fully focusing on making a great game they made: a demo, another demo, anime, movie, phone-game, a car and hell knows what before FFXV is even out, stuff that take time and resources which should have been used in the fucking game. I may despise what Atlus does to Persona but at least they first and foremost FOCUS ON THE DAMN GAME which will build the fanbase and then they milk it like crazy.

I guess SE is banking on people from the two main consoles this generation to be wanting any games they can get, and will easily buy this. I personally think they have not been advertising this game enough for it to be a massive hit.

I think it looks pretty good.

It's usually pointless to market a game for very long times. Having a ton of advertising a week or two before release is the best strategy apparently.
That's what hollywood's been doing for ages.

fune joek

FFXIII and FXIV shit and they still survived. If this really does tank then they can still make it back by selling IPs out to other companies. people would break necks to get the vagrant story or xenogears IP.

yes don't let anyone tell you different
enough for an audi car, clothing brands, anime preview, mobile shit game, and a vr dating sim
They won't. tomb raider was a failure even though it sold 1 million copies which is actually good.

Its going to end on a cliff hanger and have several sequels after it like FFXIII

FF13 sold a lot because people thought it would be good. Pretty much everyone that bought it was disappointed shortly after release.

And FF14 was fucking dead as fuck before they completely remade it from scratch to be a half decent game.

I'm not sure either of these things will happen with 15.

Great games but both sold like shit and even if someone would buy the IPs they will just rape it.

The game was revealed in 2006, so they've spent 10 years or slightly more on it.

So where does that leave the FFVII remake? I didn't have any plans on buying or pirating it, but a lot of shills are going to be deliciously butthurt if they only manage to get two "episodes" out and then have to shitcan the remake because FFXV tanked the studio.

Hopefully in the fucking dust after the jewish shit they want to pull with it.

Probably what will happen, especially if episodic.

People think they went episodic because they want to get more shekels. That might be a factor, but in all honestly, it was more likely that they just didn't have confidence the studio would be able to spend that much time on it. Since the first chapter or whatever they are calling it, will be coming out a little before we find out if they are going to do well or not. If 15 doesn't crash the joint, they can keep going. If it does, they aren't wasting all that time committed to it.

He can't be the sole blame here. There's gotta be something wrong at square when management lets shit like Lighting Returns happen

didn't stop them from making two more games that sold even less.

I'm putting all my money on sequel baiting and reusing assets

Raped or not, there would be people willing to buy it.
marketing is a bitch

oh shit you're right

It doesn't even need to be turn based, it just needs to be good.

You literally hold down a button to make your character run up and attack an enemy in the latest FFXV demo. It's not good.

It don't give a fuck about the game itself, but I have been waiting 8 long years to finally hear a complete orchestral soundtrack by Yoko Shimomura.

Say what you want about the game, the soundtrack will be top tier.

Just get the PC version of FFVII and mod it with HD graphics. Now you don't even need to know the thing exists.

Nepotism. Toriyama is butt buddies with a high up in the SE hierarchy, which is why he was allowed to make the world a worse place with his waifu.

And the retranslation patch to fix the shit job they did back in the day.

Maybe throw in a rebalance mod in there to make the game actually challenging.

That doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be bad though. It's not all about attacking, as far I know there's dodges, counterattacks, parries and full movement since you're not locked into an area.

Fuck. Second part meant for .

The remake is probably just a quick money maker. The episodic crap makes it easier to drop if it does not make any money.

THAT DOESNT MEAN ITS GOOD
WHY WOULD ANYTHING NICE EVER HAPPEN

Thing is, people have been saying for years that the moment SE announces a FF7 remake, it's as good a sign as any that shit has hit the fan for them.

That's what I'm expecting. Honestly I don't really care if it dies. For me Final Fantasy's been dead in the water since they made the first MMO.

I played the demo briefly.

They seriously fucked themselves on it. It's a straight up copy of Kingdom Hearts in both gameplay and story.

The MC story line is literally "What's real, what's dream, can I be who I am in my dreams?" Just like KH, but without the Disney fantasy mixed in to justify and excuse its playfulness and target age group.

Wannabe weebs will praise it, and actual JRPG players will fucking HATE it.

well I mean ffx was similarly "what is real what is a dream" but it managed to have a decent plotline albeit hilarious B grade voice acting.

theres a lot of ways you can go with an idea like that. that said i have no idea how it will end up being but the demo isn't the whole story.

KH actually plays and controls better. Something just feels off with the combat.

it will be shit, just like FF13. Did you not see the trailers and demos? It looks like a kingdom hearts with emo characters and faggots.

The golden era of Square is over. The company made good games in the past because they had 3 geniuses working there. In early 2000s all of those 3 departed and the suits took over.
After Sakaguchi, Uematsu and Amano left Square went to shit. Final Fantasy X was the last good FF we got and we will never get a good one again. Sad thing is just that those vultures can now canibalize the works of former Squaresoft and release a new "remaster" of their classics every 5 years

Its a popular mainstream game. No matter what faggots on Holla Forums will find a reason to be contrarian and hate it.

How is summoning things like titan and leviathan going to work or is it a todd howard "it just works"?

nope, you are just a casual homosexual mad because your shit game is shit

Notice how you listed pros about the game by detailing its story other FFs and RPGs of the genre and mechanics compared to other action games themselves instead of attacking the arguer like a complete nigger?

You hold a button to auto-dodge attacks.
Couterattacks and parries are QTEs that pop up in combat.
Full movement is nice but Noctis doesn't control all that well in the first place and free movement with a narrow locked on camera is very annoying.

I'm telling you as a person with first-hand experience of the gameplay that it's very unsatisfying and it's certainly not good.

But why are there so many emo faggots? Maybe I'm a bitter fart but I just wonder why they want to do a present day Final Fantasy compared to the ones on the NES/SNES, because all the characters in XV's party look like they're part of one gay roadtrip.

Or not even that, I just wonder why they don't do simple Dragon Quest-tier storylines for FF. Granted I only played 1 and 2 on the GBC, so I have no idea how that series works.

This was known since 2006.

Anyway it won't be shit, at most it will be very disappointing. I liked the combat it in the tech demo shurikens are pretty fun. The plot taking a hit is what I'm worried about.

Probably for a similar reason for why Vaan became the main character of XII.

It's literally "daddy issues, the game"

In one point of the deo, the Sailor Moon-tier Navi-wannabe cat-thing that's your childhood pet but "secretly your secret guardian and protector x)" asks you what your "safe space is" and it's your dad's car that reminds you of how protected you felt by him.

It's a weeb faggot's pipe-dream "game therapy" session that anybody with a brain and a sliver of life experience will fucking hate.

You're right, KH actually does control better, and your weapon swaps and powers aren't limited by completely fucking arbitrarily placed man-hole covers.
What the fuck were they thinking with that?

It's just going to be a quick-menu option like any spells or actions were in KH.

So you stopped just before getting into the good shit? are you retarded? Go play the rest right now.

Forgot to mention that at this point, the car magically appears in a puff of smoke in front of you and you get into it, and that's the end of your "dream" where you kill a giant monster after turning into Dante from Devil May Cry(TM)

Wait, so I'm not even at the good shit yet? How much better does it get?

Are there people who genuinely like these characters though?

Much, much better. Wait until you get to 5.

Fujoshi's love Vaan

misread your post, what I should have said is that the designs of XV's male characters appeal to fujoshi's.

At least in 12 you had Basch and Balthier.

Now I'm interested, thanks user. I'll definitely go back and take a look at the series one of these days.

Is there anything that fujoshits/otakus haven't killed yet?

You won't regret it, may those dubs show you the way.

Ff 15 was the easiest thing to get right.

Back to active turn based combat with unique character classes. Venetian city state esque world with magiktech everywhere

Some kind of ruins explorer jobber as the mc who stumbles onto something bigger than him.

Pixel overhead worlmap with a ton of shit go explore

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That would be good if Versus 13 didn't get renamed/remade into 15.

Remember Stella. The Final Fantasy heroine that never was.

Weebs praise Nep games they'll praise anything Asian.

Are FF characters starting to looking more gay or something?

This version looked so much more interesting. And you could've switched to your other party members. Fuck you Tabata.

Say what you want about Nomura but he had a lot more interesting and innovative direction for this game than Tabata.

Fucking Tabata. Why would you gimp your game because of your old man hands.

Plenty, For FF XV I get the sense that FF is just trying too hard to gain more demographics to be interested in their game and it will just end up bland in the end.

Emulate the PSX version or pirate the PC version with a sound fix to get the original PSX soundtrack (first PC version used only midi files for music and you needed a Yamaha DB50XG sound card for it to not sound like crap in the end some tracks sounded better than the PSX version others sounded much worse, recent Steam release got some kind of arranged garbage so the original is your safest bet).

FF7 modding community is pure cancer. Graphics mods they made make the game look worse. You can't do much with rendered backgrounds and those "upgraded character models" look like complete ass and don't fit the game style and stick out like a sore thumb on backgrounds.

When it comes to translation you have the lazy one filled with errors or the most recent one made by a faggot sperg that's close to getting his own ED page, pick your poison.

Please give me the deets.

SE is very experienced at creating commerical bomb after bomb and yet somehow managing to survive. I'm almost sure they'll survive to blow countless millions on FFXVI, a two hour interactive fashion catalogue where the models are all emanciated traps

they should just whore out their characters and make porn of them. imagine the quality

None'a that matters, because I don't give enough of a fuck about FFVII to go back and play it - and if I did, I'd just dig out my old PSX - prop it up on it's side so it'll read the disk - and play the original.

Or I'd just play it on my PSP from an eboot, or buy it on the Vita - because handheld gaming is fucking comfy as fuck.

I'd buy that.

for a dollar

Why did they spend such an absurd amount of money on a game where the protagonists look so hilariously unappealing? Do they not have focus groups in nipland? This shit wouldn't even fly if their target demographic was punk girls in the year of 2002. Do they not understand that Final Fantasy makes a lot of its sales from having waifus in the cast?

I just don't understand what the fuck they were thinking.

all i wanted was baddly-made porn but this kinda funny which is almost as good

Never played demo and always thought the XV looked like a slightly heavier KH. The E3 demo where the guy just hopped around until a qte to finish off the boss popped up cemented that thought.

Don't worry, it's going to be a great game. The series is long overdue for one.

Didn't Nomura consider turning it into a musical at some point, though? Now that's what I call a horror story.

10. It was announced in 2006

Squenix will soon learn the awefull truth
That Husbandos don't sell nearly as much as Waifus…

That said, just how big is the fujoshi population? it certainly couldn't be even 1/10th of the Otaku population, at least not outside Nippon.
certainly women as a demographic don't spend nearly as many shekkels in Vidya as males do.
Did the suits at Squenix really fell for the retarded claim of the "specialiced press" that "muh womyn are gamurs to"?
Are they trully so retarded that they fail to see that most "Gurl Gamurs" are nothing but Jewtube camwhores milking shekkels out of beta cukcs?
Did Vaan really got so much positive feedback from Fujoshis that it persuaded Squenix to pander to their demographic?

That reminds me that I really want to fuck Lightning

IM GONNA MARRY LIGHTNING!

FF13 sold around 7million copies so its not like 10 million is unrealistic.

I thought this was some faggot "journalist" misreporting an offhand comment where they said they'd be happy if it sold 10 mil, not that it was necessary? I saw it before, everyone was being a dumb faggot about muh 10 gorillion copies gotta sell.

Fucking why?

Shit I'm a faggot.

image sauce?

what if its actually really fuckin good?

I'm sick of boy bands.

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considering the E3 footage, it already did

It's all graphics and marketing.
Gameplay will be boring and shit.
Same as the FF7 remake.

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The games could've been better, but at least they gave us prime waifu material

lol

You say that like most of Holla Forums isn't expecting that to be the case.

what do you think of the similarities that 13 has with the persona series? there is a lot of themes that are in persona 3 that 13 also does

inb4 BUILT FOR SEX

Never played purseowner and don't plan to.

What is the problem with all male cast? It is somehow refreshing at this point.

Yeah but no waifus, and they're all homo as fuck.
And Cidney alone doesn't do it for me.

it could either be amusing, or extremely gay

I think they know it's shit, which is why they've already played their "hail Mary" card and have started production on an FF7 remake. They know FF7 will print money and they're counting on it to make up for this imminent catastrophe.

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Yeah, but what are you expect from jrpg? Party of bearded lumberjacks?
And about waifus, we already have two NPC-waifu and particulary womanizing behavior of main party in trailer about city.
Is it that necessary, to have waifu in party?

This, but i'm really cautious about gameplay, that's a main problem.
But im somehow like enviromental design and premise of plot.
And fuck that design of main party, they look like they have some serious venereal illness.

just like FFXIII

Yeah. Grave sign.

Can somebody please post the pictures of the raven-haired semen demon you were originally going to play as?

I dont get why these fucking weeaboos retards act like anti-sjws but still like garbage like Final Faggot

Final faggot was always a rip off of Wizardry that pandered to females ands homos which are the bulk of the sjws. The games were always fucking walking simulators with cinematics, they even removed that rock-paper-scissors "combat" in the last ones to make them be more like movies.

Weeaboos = Sjws of the 90s. Its like just homosexuals hating on transexuals.

1/2 aren't even accurate. I wish they were, but Lightning has no ass or tits.

Personally, I still have some faith in Hiroyuki Ito and Akitoshi Kawazu. It's just baffling though that neither of them have touched a mainline FF since 12.

Was FF12 that much of a failure that they've been swept under the company rug, or have they given up on the FF mainline? Could it be that they're being pushed out by Nomura?

I believe they had enough of FF after 20 years and wanted to pursue other things in life. Maybe they also saw what will be happening with Square and how they would eventually go to shit. I know one of them opened his own studio and created a top title for the Wii.

Maybe one of the problems is also that people lose their shine. It seems like the golden age of anything in life is limited and after releasing 1 hit after another they probably went out of good ideas.

It fucking does look like shit.
They show Noctis go to 0 health in a fight against a Behemoth, and he doesn't die or faint or even fall down.
He limps around, at 0 HP, and is able to summon Ramuh and no-skill win the whole battle as a reward for getting skullfucked.

Is 8 mil copies even reasonable feasible? Even the greatest of games don't sell that much do they? I'm sure they want 8 mil copies with in a half a year right?

Here's your (you)

i always appreciate posts like this

Isn't the whole mechanic that you only have a limited amount of time to recover before you die for real, a la Earthbound?

The difference is, Earthbound is turn based. In FF15, all you need to do is go into your items, or limp up to a party member, or use a summon, and all that bad playing you just did doesn't matter at all.

Time for another shit franchise to finally end.
Name 5 great games in the series.
Pro tip: personal favourites don't count

FF14
FF6
FF4
FF Tactics
FF 7

There.

kek no. That linear cinematic shit put FF in the rut it's in.

No, FFX was good. It was the death knell for the series, locking the active time battle into wait mode and turning summons into something else entirely, but it was definitely an enjoyable game. Hell, if FFX were shit, maybe things wouldn't of gone as they did.

Well, not really, since Enix bought out Squaresoft and turned it into a shambling corpse, but i can dream. As much as i hated the SaGa games, they were, at least, a sign that Square was still willing to do unpopular shit, like combination fighting/rogue-like games.

What happens to FFXI and XIV if SE switches to being a publisher?

If XV fails and Square's back is to the wall they'll probably focus on the MMOs until they repair.

Honestly, I highly doubt Square is stupid enough to put all their eggs in one basket.

Lightning is perfection.

Fuck off Toriyama, you and your waifu killed FF.

Besides, everyone already knows that Quistis is perfection, with Tifa coming in a close second. Shit, even rat-faced Freya is better waifu material than Lightning.

Not only will it be shit, but it will be gay as shit too.

Nep has cute girls. What the fuck does FFXV have except a bunch of fucking faggots?