Why the FUCK haven't you installed GNU/Linux yet, Holla Forums? 60% of the games on...

Hunter Cox
Hunter Cox

he's still using Windows on his computer to play games
Why the FUCK haven't you installed GNU/Linux yet, Holla Forums?

60% of the games on Steam now have GNU ports already.

All urls found in this thread:

store.steampowered.com/app/373720/
yourlogicalfallacyis.com/bandwagon
blog.coresecurity.com/2016/06/28/ms16-039-windows-10-64-bits-integer-overflow-exploitation-by-using-gdi-objects/
appdb.winehq.org/
itpro.co.uk/desktop-software/21919/windows-81-vs-windows-7-which-is-best-for-you
voidlinux.eu
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55873925/comfy guide for linux virgins and tech casuals draft.html
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55873925/master.sh

Aaron Morris
Aaron Morris

Yeah but then there's that other 40%. I mean if they can work that part out I'd probably swap.

Joshua Sanders
Joshua Sanders

pc has no games and there's even less games on linux. and the performance is worse too. I'll stick to consoles for the majority of my playing, and play the few PC games that actually interest me on windows, because they are only on windows.

Asher Morgan
Asher Morgan

Because I'd rather play all the games instead of just 60% like a dumb faggot.

Also, dual booting is a thing

Christopher Watson
Christopher Watson

If Software As Service is such an issue, why do millions around the globe still use it

Jonathan Fisher
Jonathan Fisher

If the games you play are already ported, then that's a non-issue.

and the performance is worse too.
Blatant fucking lie.

Also, dual booting is a thing
Dual booting is for faggots that end up just staying on Windows anyways.

Because most people are uninformed of superior alternatives available.

Lucas Jones
Lucas Jones

Stallman

lol

Parker Garcia
Parker Garcia

dual boot windows
or emulate windows to play video games on Linux

But no I'm sorry, I'll just stop having fun so I can play open source video games

Levi Young
Levi Young

The games I care about can't natively run on linux, so I don't care

Jace Kelly
Jace Kelly

Because I don't give a fuck about the ideals of FOSS. Nothing is truly free and the thought that technology will somehow achieve this is laughable.

Jonathan Reed
Jonathan Reed

I tried it once, was fed up with my micro$oft winblows crashing and getting corrupted despite system restarts and drive formatting. After I properly set up a linux system I made it one entire day before switching back.

Don't do in anons, linux is just like the ps4. it has no games

Elijah Howard
Elijah Howard

because there is no reason for me to switch to linux. I already have everything I want and all switching will do is make me have to get used to using another OS. it's such a minor topic when you actually research possible OS's and realize its 100% a matter of preference.

Christian Lopez
Christian Lopez

Linux has no games.

Bentley Morales
Bentley Morales

Linux is not suited for playing games, like at all.
It has strenghts of course, but playing vidya is NOT one of them.

Jordan Powell
Jordan Powell

Just a friendly reminder that Ryzom now has a Steam 'port' (and yes, it's obviously cross-compatible with other versions) available since last month.
store.steampowered.com/app/373720/

I just finished playing a few hours of it today, I'll definitely need more time tomorrow in order to understand it.

Still a shame about Planeshift jumping to a locked-down UE4 fork

Mason Foster
Mason Foster

i usually use my gnu/linux pc to play retro pc games, because wine has more support then micro$haft would ever put into compatibility with old games and software.

Lucas Wood
Lucas Wood

translation i'm to much of a lazy faggot to switch operating systems.

good digits though
no one checked these quads

Cooper Sanchez
Cooper Sanchez

or maybe sextuple.

Juan James
Juan James

linux gaming is a meme

David Howard
David Howard

they are shitty ports and they get the patches and updates last

Joshua Wright
Joshua Wright

micro$haft fag can't into linux.

Thomas Cook
Thomas Cook

I think there is nothing wrong with closed source software and the desire to be paid for your work creating it. Copyright laws have become ridiculous but lifetime rights for private creators which do not pass down to heirs and non extendable limited time corporate copyrights are reasonable and fair. Without the principle behind FOSS to motivate me, I see no reason to use a new OS when the one I have works better for vidya and just as well for work.

Ian Torres
Ian Torres

Because unlike you, I actually have an IT degree and I know GNU+Linux is white hot sewage.

Isaiah Long
Isaiah Long

because I don't want to spend 8 hours crawling through forums populated by autistic neckbeards that try to make me switch distro, every one of them with 3 million upvotes, just to get a game to run properly.

Dominic Scott
Dominic Scott

Because I'm not a fucking loser who thinks that anyone gives a shit about my fucking operating system. I don't go around smugly going "Hey, I still use Windows" or "Wow, I use Linux, you wanna talk about that and maybe work that into sex?"

NO ONE CARES, and for all your haughty tauty bullshit about how you can "customize your Linux" and "know what's going on with your computer" what does it amount to? Do you really think that people want to know about the fact that you jerk off to dudes dressed up like girls? Linux, the choice for homosexuals in the closet. OS X the choice for homosexuals out of the closet. Windows the choice for people who just want a computer that works and does what they want, without having to compromise and try and figure out a solution to all of their gaming problems.

Virtual machine this dick, shut the fuck up about god damn Linux. You post Richard Stallman like he's someone to look up to, when he's a patent monger just like the people he always shits on, extolling a cancerous licensing system that infects whatever you integrate GPL'd software with to become open source. Oh boy, can't wait to give out the code to everyone so that nothing is ever secure, and it all winds down to a game of who can shit on who the most to drive software sales instead of who has the best software. When everything is open source, it means no one has anything unique.

Linux is the great choice if you want a generic computer that can't actually do anything, and virtual machines are still dreck. Get a fucking life.

Carson Johnson
Carson Johnson

Windows the choice for people who just want a computer that works and does what they want, without having to compromise and try and figure out a solution to all of their gaming problems.

windows it just werks guiz

Virtual machine this dick, shut the fuck up about god damn Linux.

make me faggot.

Oh boy, can't wait to give out the code to everyone so that nothing is ever secure,

implying you're safe with the government up you're ass.

Linux is the great choice if you want a generic computer that can't actually do anything, and virtual machines are still dreck. Get a fucking life.

go back to sucking Satya Nadella dick shill.

Kevin Hughes
Kevin Hughes

Faggot can't even link to the right post.

shill
I'm not shilling anything, if you don't know what a word means, don't use it you fucking mongrel.

Eli Price
Eli Price

i'm not the one who went on autistic rant about operating systems you cum guzzling faggot, if you don't like the gnu/linux threads fucking hide them, but you probably won't get paid if you did that.

Oliver Sanchez
Oliver Sanchez

But I already use Linux. Kubuntu is a great distro for Winbabbies like me who don't speak 13 different programming languages. I also have a Winblows 7 partition for games I can't play on Linux.

wew

20 billion flies eat shit every day how can they all be wrong

IT degree
thinks Linux is bad
I'm guessing this "degree" was from the University of Phoenix.

Tyler Anderson
Tyler Anderson

Another Linux thread proving that that its adherents do more damage to their own cause than Microsoft ever could just by being intolerable autistic faggots. Good luck getting the normalfags to have anything to do with you at this rate.

Jackson Ward
Jackson Ward

(1)
Kys.

Eli Torres
Eli Torres

LOL linux XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Christopher Lewis
Christopher Lewis

normalfags a good thing.

James Lewis
James Lewis

he just keeps posting it
Nice one.
You probably think "Linux is immune to viruses, I'm so superior," but the truth is, no one cares about less than 1%, so no one cares enough about Linux to exploit its weaknesses.

Colton Peterson
Colton Peterson

using sage as a downvote.

/reddit/index.html

Lucas Walker
Lucas Walker

Because I don't give a fucking shit. Windows 7 does literally everything I want it to and I don't need the customization of Linux. More of the shit I use doesn't even run on Linux. There's zero reason for me to make a switch.

Now to be fair, I do understand using Linux over shit like W8 and 10.

Brayden Myers
Brayden Myers

le go back to reddit meemay XDDD

saging for non vidya shit thread

Eli White
Eli White

There is that charm and charisma we have all come to expect.
Like them or not, you guys aren't getting anywhere without them. The corps will always win until you convert them and you never will at this rate.

Jace Scott
Jace Scott

60% of the games on Steam now have GNU ports already.

Why are you lying? It's 25.2%.

Josiah Rivera
Josiah Rivera

I don't think it's even that high, I'd say it's closer to 12% at best. And most of those are indie games that everyone on Holla Forums hates anyway.

James Gonzalez
James Gonzalez

Dis.

Jeremiah Murphy
Jeremiah Murphy

I have an AMD Radeon HD 7950. The old fglrx driver hasn't been updated in 7 months, and isn't compatible with the updated xserver. So in order to not have half my system held back from updates, I removed fglrx and apt auto-installed amdgpu as the alternative open-source driver. Now wine doesn't work for things that used to be fine, and the amdgpu-pro proprietary component that's supposed to work in tandem with amdgpu doesn't support early GCN cards yet.

If I were confident that the RX 480 would resolve this issue, I'd buy one and be done with it. But the last few years have educated me about relying on AMD's Linux driver support.

Anyway, that's why I'm mostly playing on my 3DS these days.

Ian Cooper
Ian Cooper

Anyway, that's why I'm mostly playing on my 3DS these days.
I'm sorry for your troubles, user.

Logan Long
Logan Long

You probably think "Linux is immune to viruses, I'm so superior," but the truth is, no one cares about less than 1%, so no one cares enough about Linux to exploit its weaknesses.

implying i ever said that, people have been fucked in the as by corporations like micro$haft for so long that they convinced themselves that they like it .

normalfags ruin everything they touch, i rather linux die then to let those fags, destroy everything it stood for.

Landon Roberts
Landon Roberts

games
Linux
Pick one

Parker Jenkins
Parker Jenkins

No one who is serious about computers will ever go all in on Linux, you know why? The business model doesn't work, and the operating system doesn't allow for proprietary software to protect itself because it's specifically designed to prevent it. And that's why 99% of all businesses in the world do not make software for Linux.

SteamOS pretends to be the magic bullet, but in all matter of fact, Valve can't promise anyone who deploys on Linux that Linux users won't crack their games and redistribute them. Which is why no one ever packed and sold games for Linux on store shelves, and why it is now that Linux still can't get adoption from an industry with so many alternatives to DirectX.

But hey, keep spouting off about how "we're so uninformed and ignorant," while proving your ignorance and acting smug about it. That'll surely get more Linux users.

Charles Reyes
Charles Reyes

The business model doesn't work, and the operating system doesn't allow for proprietary software to protect itself because it's specifically designed to prevent it. And that's why 99% of all businesses in the world do not make software for Linux.

and thats the point, we use linux so no one can do shady things with that software, and games that goes open-sauce always have longer and better community just look at doom, just because some corporate faggot wants to monitor everything your computer does is a stupid reason not to support linux.

SteamOS pretends to be the magic bullet, but in all matter of fact, Valve can't promise anyone who deploys on Linux that Linux users won't crack their games and redistribute them.

just because gabe the kike wants to sneak his retarded drm into linux doesn't mean everyone who uses linux support his cause.

and why it is now that Linux still can't get adoption from an industry with so many alternatives to DirectX.

i guess opengl doesn't exist.

John King
John King

yourlogicalfallacyis.com/bandwagon

Cameron Myers
Cameron Myers

Which is why no one ever packed and sold games for Linux on store shelves
ever
Is that so?

Liam Green
Liam Green

This too technically.

Jayden Peterson
Jayden Peterson

Ryan Gordon ported a lot of games to Linux officially, including UT2004 and Descent 2.

Lucas Reyes
Lucas Reyes

Where's my reliable hardware passthrough, Richard?

Mason Long
Mason Long

I remember seeing CS boxes with Linus on them at ebgames, too. Now they don't even sell Windows games!

Cooper Adams
Cooper Adams

There's been no push for Linux anywhere really, it's always been a hobbyists/coders platform.

Most businesses use Windows, or if its important like a bank then a Windows frontend on a UNIX backend.

Pretentious hipsters with their "indie" businesses use Apple products.

Eli Wilson
Eli Wilson

People have stopped selling boxed games for PC in genera, now that the internet is much more accessible.

Andrew Martin
Andrew Martin

steam
gys

Nathaniel Gomez
Nathaniel Gomez

This. Only use Linux only as a development platform or if you are a hobbyist.

Leo Diaz
Leo Diaz

Why aren't you guys playing games on a Mac?

1% of Steam games already almost sort of work on Mac already.

Carter Phillips
Carter Phillips

not him but
Also, dual booting is a thing
Dual booting is for faggots that end up just staying on Windows anyways.
same thing with passthrough, you still use Windows.

Christian Sanders
Christian Sanders

Just think of all those old mac games that are impossible to play because PowerPC is no longer a thing.

Levi Garcia
Levi Garcia

60% of the games on Steam now have GNU ports already.

SteamOS+Linux
4645

Windows
19368

That's only 23% user

Jayden Richardson
Jayden Richardson

Perhaps interesting to note that if Linux ever grew bigger than they are and became the market leader, they'd turn just like Microsoft and go after every hard earned penny you have. Because that's how business works.

Still if you want to feel special because you are using the niche, go right ahead. But i'll keep using an OS that lets me play the games I want.

Jace Robinson
Jace Robinson

Well I had Xubuntu installed by the piece of shit developed a random file-corruption/file-locking issue until it finally managed to fuck up a system file and I get a kernel panic on boot now. Thinking of trying a new distribution after this now but not sure what to go with. Been leaning towards Debian/Devuan or an Arch derivative.

Also DRM cancer like Steam is the last thing GNU needs.

Ryder Ortiz
Ryder Ortiz

they
Are you talking about Canonical? 'cause I can't think of any other Linux figure that would only be in it for the money. Pretty much all of the kernel hackers/contributors are either doing it because they want to or because they're already being paid by their employer.

Jayden Brooks
Jayden Brooks

60% of worth playing games

Jose Gonzalez
Jose Gonzalez

It's quite hilarious that WINE plays so many 16-bit Windows games effortlessly while you're up shit creek on 64-bit Windows.

Logan Gomez
Logan Gomez

yeah but its 4645 more games than the PS4.

Isaac Nguyen
Isaac Nguyen

I'll most likely get rid of my Windows partition permanently once I finally get the hardware to do PCI passthrough. Until then, Winblows sadly runs a lot of my games better due to the fact that my old GPU has non-existent Linux drivers and the open source drivers are just trash.

David Ramirez
David Ramirez

Linux is the great choice if you want a generic computer that can't actually do anything

Meh. I find it more powerful for everything but gaming, and I still game on it. Dualbooting to windows for some games is fine, too.

Nice sperg rant, though.

Another thread proving that you fall for the bait, everytime. The people who actually give a shit about linux talk about open source games and troubleshooting WINE, sharing ricing tips. Been e few threads in the last few months. But of course nobody can grind their superior windows ego on them so they lose most of the faggots like you see in this thread, including you.

Kevin Peterson
Kevin Peterson

I mean, seriously now… MAME runs games 4x as fast on Windows XP for me, and many basic games I run 100% speed effortless I can't even get 70% on GNU/Linux MAME. What the fuck.

Jace Russell
Jace Russell

because i play the other 40%

Austin Davis
Austin Davis

because "WINE'' is fucking shit and i hate it.

Carter Roberts
Carter Roberts

Please enlighten me as to how you reckon they could even do that given that it's free and open source, and built on those very principles?

Even if some distro were to go full Jewish, you can always just pick a different one. It's not hard. Not so easy with Windows, since it's all Microsoft.

Angel Martinez
Angel Martinez

You know why these threads pop up here and not on halfchan?

Because whoever makes them knows that people on 8ch Holla Forums:

-Are mostly on PC

-Don't play video games

So it's the perfect breeding ground to try to find converts.
Not judging one way or the other, just something to think about, this is the type of reputation this place has.

Cameron King
Cameron King

go back there and stay there

Jackson Jackson
Jackson Jackson

Shitposting faggotry aside. I mainly use my PC for browsing, reading, watching anime, hoarding images, and Vidya. So I was thinking of getting Windows 7 ultimate or 8.1 and use Mint on the side for my brand new PC I just built. I even plan on ricing my PC in the future. Question is, what exactly would be some good recommendations for someone new to Mint? I understand what I want from Windows, but not Linux when it comes to the things I do on my PC.

Also most of my gaming is done through emulation which works better with Windows.

Jaxon Kelly
Jaxon Kelly

More like if he wanted a good thread then he would make an opening post coming off as a elitist faggot. It was asking for controversy instead of people's honest opinions.

Nicholas Allen
Nicholas Allen

Less native games than OS X
Viable gaming OS

Andrew Lee
Andrew Lee

Oh please. These are the only sort of threads Holla Forums ever responds to. Once the OP goes past 3 sentences, people lose interest.

Carter Ortiz
Carter Ortiz

60% of the games on Steam now have GNU ports already
Supporting Steam

Adam Roberts
Adam Roberts

60% of the games on Steam now have GNU ports already

That's bullshit, it's more like 20%, which means 80% of games on Steam do NOT run on Linux.

Stop spreading BS

Luke Baker
Luke Baker

You arent supposed to run proprietary software on GNU/Linux. Neither should you run DRM on it. GNU/Linux is the worst possible platform to play games on, outside maybe the R-Zone

Ethan Ramirez
Ethan Ramirez

Shitposting faggotry aside. I mainly use my PC for browsing, reading, watching anime, hoarding images, and Vidya. So I was thinking of getting Windows 7 ultimate or 8.1 and use Mint on the side for my brand new PC I just built.
Use win7 for your vidya needs. Linux can do everything else that you described. I personally don't recommend dual booting, having another OS on a separate physical drive or on another computer would be better in most cases.
I even plan on ricing my PC in the future. Question is, what exactly would be some good recommendations for someone new to Mint? I understand what I want from Windows, but not Linux when it comes to the things I do on my PC.
Is there something particular you're after with ricing? I'm not a ricer and only care to know some few basics to say rice a linux based media rig for my folks who only cares about what the computah can do for them, they don't geek out on computahs, let alone gahnoo linux.
With that shit said, try /rice/, might be dead now though. Maybe /tech/ general.

Thomas James
Thomas James

/tech/index.html

Gavin Davis
Gavin Davis

Question is, what exactly would be some good recommendations for someone new to Mint?
Mint is the Windows counterpart in Linux. What you need to understand is that most Linux distros are just presets and you can always plug and unplug what you want from any installation which is why /g/ says to install Gentoo on top of its tailored installation to hardware. You can always swap file managers and desktop environments and they will run natively rather than as an extra application on top of the existing FM or DE. I'd recommend using Mint for awhile until you grasp what's going for a bit then try tinkering with it. Personally I liked #! and Mint because they work alright out of the box. Judging from what you said you mainly use your computer for I'd recommend installing Open Box (Pic related is #!).

I guess what I'm getting at is that Linux is your Elder Scrolls of OS; You're going to have to tweak it via mods and so on to your needs and desires. I personally haven't used Linux in awhile simply because I got tired of some driver fucking off and having to dig through forums trying various "fixes" to get something functional. I think it's ALSA sound drivers you'll come to hate, I can't really remember at this time.

Jackson Taylor
Jackson Taylor

Oh boy, can't wait to give out the code to everyone so that nothing is ever secure
that is a part of what makes it more secure

rest of that post was just insane rambling

The business model doesn't work
it does work
the operating system doesn't allow for proprietary software to protect itself because it's specifically designed to prevent it
the license is supposed to do that, the software isn't designed to do that. you can still install proprietary software, irrelevant.
And that's why 99% of all businesses in the world do not make software for Linux.
try researching that before you make such an uninformed statement. there is a large variety of software available for it, and some is not available for Windows. major corporations like Oracle and Microsoft have made software for it and have contributed to the kernel. there are companies that mostly make software for Linux like Red Hat and Canonical.
Valve can't promise anyone who deploys on Linux that Linux users won't crack their games and redistribute them.
the same problem on any operating system. not even relevant.
why it is now that Linux still can't get adoption from an industry with so many alternatives to DirectX.
its going to be a while before Vulkan is fully adopted, developing games takes a while and Vulkan is new.

Dylan Lopez
Dylan Lopez

Do you even understand what you are saying? The Linux kernel contains proprietary blobs, so of course you are supposed to run proprietary software under GNU/Linux. Perhaps the term you are looking for is GNU/Linux-libre, which most distros aren't anyway (only 6 by default and 3 where it is given as an option)?

Ian Brooks
Ian Brooks

This is what shitposters want you to believe to help turn Holla Forums into 4/v/. I made a JRPG Thread recently that lasted almost 2 weeks about 3 weeks ago. I've made few threads recently about games or certain topics that got a good discussion and nearly no shitposting. You just need to make something worth discussing without relying on reactionary bullshit, memes, template greentext, SJW nonsense, or any /pol/ stuff. If it dies, so be it and try again another time. Time of day matters too. Early morning and after lunch are usually the best times.

Thanks. I'll check those out.

Camden Sanchez
Camden Sanchez

I prefer to use Windows mainly because with some work it's more secure than Linux, and as a Windows sysadmin by trade I have the knowledge required to make such a setup work. Most of the Microsoft data collection embedded in Windows 10 can be disabled through the management tools which leaves me with something as safe as Linux (if not safer, Secure Boot + BitLocker does a pretty good job at securing system boot) but with a bigger backlog and less compatibility issues.

The real shame is that Microsoft disables most of these tools in the personal editions of their OS. I understand that they don't want to deal with random script kiddies accidentally disabling their desktop manager, but there should be a way to reinstall those tools for power users.

Hudson Morales
Hudson Morales

I like video games too much to use Linux.

WINE is essentially a Windows emulator anyways, right? Why bother at that point when I can just use Windows and don't have to fiddle with fifty things.

Chase James
Chase James

WINE is essentially a Windows emulator anyways, right?

William Jackson
William Jackson

Linux is
Less secure (I guarantee you edited a value in your config that POZZED the system. Go back and double check)
No support. Nobody cares
Shit drivers
Even OSX has better game support

Ian Smith
Ian Smith

recursive acronyms
I always hated the name. Freetards are so bad at naming their software.

Nicholas Walker
Nicholas Walker

nsa gtfo reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Michael Bailey
Michael Bailey

It's not a recursive acronym. It was in the very beginning, but now it's just "Wine" and it means wine.

Charles Evans
Charles Evans

With Windows and OSX the NSA makes an information request on a user.

With Linux they just tear off the paper door and walk right in.

Robert Anderson
Robert Anderson

It's okay Linux friend :^)

Josiah Rivera
Josiah Rivera

And Wine is not an emulator, it's a compatibility lawyer, like the one Windows copied now to be able to use Linux software in it.

Camden Adams
Camden Adams

Now their app name makes even less sense.

Joshua Lopez
Joshua Lopez

Windows means windows, I mean, when have you seen software names making sense and why should you care about that specific part?

Jeremiah White
Jeremiah White

Software naming has always been a mess. Between the weird acronyms and the random surnames pulled out of last century it's a minefield.

Just accept it

Nicholas Jenkins
Nicholas Jenkins

Windows the choice for people who just want a computer that works and does what they want

But Windows neither works, nor does what you want it to, though. We're just kinda stuck with it, because it's been the biggest OS for so long.

Honestly, Linux is far easier to set up than Windows if you choose a more newbie friendly distro. I've done fresh installs of both. Windows is a pain and requires driver hunting, troubleshooting, etc. Linux literally just werks. I installed it and that was that. Had everything I needed.

Only reason newbies are afraid of it is the command prompt which is honestly more practical when you know how to use it, and a general fear of new things. The latter being the biggest reason. If more people and companies used it, people would be far less intimidated by it. It's kind of self perpetuating.

Luke Reyes
Luke Reyes

"There are two hard things in computer science: cache invalidation, naming things, and off-by-one errors."

Grayson Watson
Grayson Watson

Because Linux has no games, and I'm not gonna trade in my current operating system just so that I can feel like a hipster faggot.

Jose Jackson
Jose Jackson

IT degree
Implying you know anything
I've worked in IT for years, most people don't know a god damn thing about what they're doing

Benjamin Martinez
Benjamin Martinez

Something like Ubuntu, sure, but not Linux in general.

The main parts of Linux are Linux (the kernel) and GNU.

GNU is run by a ridiculously idealistic non-profit foundation. They go through an insane amount of trouble to not betray their principles, and there's no sign that they'll ever stop doing that. They have made certain legal contracts for most of their existing projects that require them to stay open source (or free/libre software, technically) forever.

Linux isn't going to get corrupted either because of what drives it. It isn't philanthropy, it's technical motivations. Lots of huge companies contribute to Linux because they use it and want to improve it. They don't directly gain any money from it, they gain a better kernel. The only power they have over the project is the power to contribute useful code that will get accepted if it's good. They don't have any way or reason to monetize it.

When you install Linux you don't get it directly from the developers of the base parts of the operating system, you get it from "distributions". There are a lot of independent companies and organizations and projects that package all the parts that make up Linux into usable operating systems. It's possible for one of those distributions to go bad, but that won't make the other distributions go bad. One of the largest distributions, Debian, is, again, a non-profit, run democratically by volunteers. That won't go bad.

The defining aspect of Linux is not that it's open source (there are a lot of other operating systems that are), but that it's fragmented. Development happens in lots of separate projects that are gathered together by independent groups. There is no coherent overarching thing called "Linux". Every part has a replacement, even the parts that give it its name. As long as there are people with principles left (and there are a lot of those in the Linux world) they can create a good operating system that doesn't go after your money.

Sebastian Taylor
Sebastian Taylor

is not an emulator, it's a compatibility layer

What's the effective difference?

Camden Moore
Camden Moore

I use Windows because I value my time more than my money. If I had all the time in the world (i.e. a NEET or not working in a supervisor role) I might install Linux.

Parker Diaz
Parker Diaz

Wine does not create an emulated OS, it uses actual Windows libraries and programs so as to run actual Windows programs inside Linux, not inside an emulated Windows. The same way Windows is doing now with Linux software.

Jack Torres
Jack Torres

First scroll bars that can be used to exploit the kernel. Then fonts that can be used to exploit the kernel, now GDI objects blog.coresecurity.com/2016/06/28/ms16-039-windows-10-64-bits-integer-overflow-exploitation-by-using-gdi-objects/

Such security
Such wow

Christopher Sanchez
Christopher Sanchez

Hit backspace 28 times
Get logged in
Linux security

Jeremiah Thomas
Jeremiah Thomas

Ah yeah I remember that. It was a good day for us LILO users.

Cooper Rivera
Cooper Rivera

mfw it's patched minutes after discovered
mfw Windows hasn't patched security bugs discovered even before 1995
mfw everything in Windows is literally a threat to the kernel
mfw you think that's security
mfw Windows also had the same log in problem where you could log in with ctrl+alt+supr and Bill Gates had to even blame himself
mfw you don't even know what you're talking about
mfw no face

Julian Ward
Julian Ward

An emulator emulates the whole machine, which means at least a CPU interpreter taking the guest machine code as input and translating it into host machine code.
A compatibility layer just translates an API call into another API call (like OpenFile in Win32 would be translated to open on nix)?

Jackson Anderson
Jackson Anderson

That was actually part of the bootloader. It let you bypass a password that was needed to boot the computer, it didn't let you log into the operating system itself.

Anthony Howard
Anthony Howard

tbh if a bug was discovered before 1995 it's probably gone now, since Microsoft does this thing of throwing away everything

Kevin Walker
Kevin Walker

60% of the games on Steam now have GNU ports already.

Bullshit.

Lincoln Campbell
Lincoln Campbell

They don't, that's why they have so much backwards compatibility and decade old bugs, because they don't throw things away, but they also don't know, don't bother or simply can't fix them.

Nathan Wood
Nathan Wood

It's okay when Linux does it!

Ethan Scott
Ethan Scott

implying things I never said
implying I didn't say it got fixed as it ought to
implying Windows' bug wasn't the one that let you logged in while Linux's bug was just a way to allow the machine to pass the bootloader
implying you all of a sudden know what you're talking about

Kayden Roberts
Kayden Roberts

Implying you didn't say that

Daniel Adams
Daniel Adams

60%
steam
call me when is 99%, INCLUDED nip vidya

Jaxon Ramirez
Jaxon Ramirez

To a certain level they do, at least they did that with Vista and at the time fucked everyone. But it was for their own good.

Also even if they fix the bug it might be on one of the 15 different support branches and variations and most users won't get it. It's ridiculously complicated

Thomas Sanchez
Thomas Sanchez

But windows makes sense. It's their new OS after DOS and this time it uses Windows as the main GUI element. Perfectly sensible.

Wine doesn't make any sense.

Wyatt Butler
Wyatt Butler

Dual booting is for faggots that end up just staying on Windows anyways.
I dual-boot Linux and Win7, and I almost never use the Win7 partition. I wouldn't even have that partition at all if it were up to me, but there are some Windows programs I need for my university that don't run on WINE.

Chase Torres
Chase Torres

No, I did not. I clearly said the bug was fixed, while Windows can't even fix decade old bugs. A really good part of Linux is it's incredibly easy finding bugs and fixing them (you know, open source), while in Windows, not only is it difficult, but 1) they won't get fixed if Microsoft isn't interested 2) you might suffer a law suit from them for hacking their OS, and then they'll proceed to ignore your bug report.

It's alright you like Windows, everybody can be stupid, but don't try to make others stupid. When the mere fact of using a scroll bar or a TTF isn't a direct threat to the kernel, you might have a chance in this argument, you don't as of now.

Jack Evans
Jack Evans

nip vidya
actually wanting pedophilia simulators to infest Linux
That shit can stay with winblows, at least it can be used to bait pedophiles.

Jaxon Barnes
Jaxon Barnes

60% of Steam games are ported to linux!
You mean, the 60% that include all the indie garbage and walking simulators?

Blake Moore
Blake Moore

I didn't say that

Nathan Long
Nathan Long

I actually have an IT degree
I wouldn't brag about that shit if I were you.

Leo Carter
Leo Carter

To a certain level, you said it. And most users get bugs and exploits, it's stupid easy breaking a Windows machine with even Microsoft Word.

Since the name started as WINE (Wine Is Not an Emulator), it makes sense the stick to Wine.

People get mad cause it's a recursive acronym
People get mad when it stops being a recursive acronym

Exactly, I said you think that's security, when it's not. While Linux is security, since it's fixed, while in Windows it's not. If you think fixing bugs is insecure, you don't know where your face is, honestly

Jayden Lewis
Jayden Lewis

quit falseflagging

Jace Foster
Jace Foster

Because Linux OS is fucked as long as they keep being autistic maximus about user experience.

Gabriel Reed
Gabriel Reed

Since the name started as WINE (Wine Is Not an Emulator)
It started as WINdows Emulator, but it stopped being an emulator.

Joseph Cook
Joseph Cook

It's possible to login on a Windows account without the password by running cmd on the login page ever since Windows 95. This is because when you are on the login page, you are technically already logged into an admin account called SYSTEM, so you have the ability to change the user account's password. Technically not before 1995, but it shows that Windows security is laughable and that Microsoft really doesn't care about bugs from over two decades ago, probably because they would have to rebuild how the login system that they have been using for 20 years works completely.

Benjamin Lewis
Benjamin Lewis

Or you know, you can use a distro backed by a company that focuses on user experience, one of those autists in the Linux world don't like.

It's always been a compatibility lawyer, but alright.

If you specify the part of that post that you are referring to, I might be able to know what you are referring to.

Liam Sanders
Liam Sanders

All of my software for work is primarily for Linux, so I'll probably have to switch at some point.
How much work is involved in setting up a dual-boot? Will I need to reinstall half my games to get them to run in Linux, or can I use the preexisting installs on the Windows drive/partition and run them through Wine or whatever?

Charles Johnson
Charles Johnson

don't say things I don't like
I don't like japanese video "games" because they're poorly-developed trash and pedophile simulators. Do you want certain kind of people ruining Linux's image? Damn sure, I don't. So that trash can stay with winblows.

Chase King
Chase King

You said the word that. That's why I highlighted it. Lighten up user, I don't even use Windows.

Jacob Lee
Jacob Lee

Oh, I get it.
Fuck you :3

Zachary Adams
Zachary Adams

IGN
Anime

also I agree with your post

Jayden Edwards
Jayden Edwards

The number is actually closer to 25% according to a 1.2 second google search. Not that it makes much difference.

Hunter Cooper
Hunter Cooper

Installing GNU/Linux for vidya is like having a music player that only plays FLAC.

Dominic Cox
Dominic Cox

in work
IT guy sees my laptop with win7 installed
wanna see a trick user?
ok
im going to log into your computer without your password
he does some shit
he cant fucking do it
eh? people never put a password for the admin account
mfw this faggot is in charge of all the shit in the company

Caleb Reyes
Caleb Reyes

here is your (you)

Levi Smith
Levi Smith

mfw you think your case is more important than the world

You keep thinking because you tweaked your Windows a bit it's more secure, and you still ignore that the very GUI you use is a direct threat to your kernel.

Aaron Collins
Aaron Collins

Why can't Linuxfags just admit that their operating system isn't as great as they think it is?

Hey, nice operating system but I use X and Linux doesn't have it so i'm gonna stick with Wind-

WELL WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU WANT TO USE X FAGGOT
WHY DO YOU HAVE SUCH SHIT TASTE
MUH PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE BRUH

Daniel Jenkins
Daniel Jenkins

GNU/Linux is pretty god-tier overall then, with the exception of not supporting the two other lossless codecs that I guess are worthwhile.

Kevin Myers
Kevin Myers

your case is more important than the world
where the fuck did I Imply that? calm your autism, user.

Josiah Johnson
Josiah Johnson

You seriously think Windows is more secure than Linux because you kind of hardened it, while ignoring your GUI and fonts are a threat and you can't harden it. And that's the top of the iceberg.

Calm your retardation :^)

Lucas Perez
Lucas Perez

Windows 7 just plays more games easier. I don't use steam either so I couldn't give a fuck what percentage of those games work on Linux.

Eli Green
Eli Green

I get why people would use windows out of convenience but why would you actually shill for the cancer that's been plaguing us for multiple decades?
Can cognitive dissonance actually make you corporate whore?

Connor Parker
Connor Parker

These dubs are a fucking joke, here check mine.

Joshua Russell
Joshua Russell

You seriously think Windows is more secure than Linux
implying i ever posted that
stop pretending to be a retard

Benjamin Brown
Benjamin Brown

If it wasn't you, my sincere apologies.

Wyatt Gray
Wyatt Gray

If I have a Gigabyte motherboard can I just dualboot Linux/Win7? I'll use Linux to shitpost and Win7 for the vidya.

Julian Gray
Julian Gray

It's not really dependant on your motherboard except whether your bootloader is intended for BIOS or UEFI

I have a Gigabyte motherboard and I dual boot without issue.

Asher Garcia
Asher Garcia

tfw all of my games run perfect on ganoo slash loonix and now i only use my windows partition as a DirectX simulator

Feels good man

Ian Lee
Ian Lee

also OP is still a retard for not posting actual ganoo+lunix vidya and shitting up his own thread instead

Gavin Perry
Gavin Perry

Most of these threads are made in the spirit of halfchan/g/ OS war shitposting. The people who really care are those who start the open source games threads.

Hunter Roberts
Hunter Roberts

i like video gamess

Matthew Diaz
Matthew Diaz

How do I pirate Linux games? I can barely find anything worthwhile on kickass

Luis Nelson
Luis Nelson

Indie shit has linux ports guies!!!
Who gives a fuck.

Jaxon Reed
Jaxon Reed

Apparently you, as you bumped this thread.

Lucas Johnson
Lucas Johnson

Linux
Gaming
Linuxfag here, dualboot or use that Passthrough thing. Linux gaming is OK if you don't use PC as your primary gaming device, but if you're a mustard you should stick to Windows. And if you're off the deep end of PC elitism you probably suck enough corporate cock anyway
Only games I care about that I can't run are Space Engineers and EYE. I think there's a workaround for EYE but I haven't escaped my cycles of procrastination. I use Linux because I'm a lazy fuck who doesn't want to deal with hunting down download links and fighting my OS to stop it trying to kill itself. Also it's god tier for programming.
Stick to Windows 7, use that GWX panel thing to stop the Windows 10 update and enjoy your vidya. If you're interested in this Linux thing get Virtualbox A computer emulator, Ubuntu Sure there are other distros but stick with one first and try it out without the possibility of fucking up your system.

Our share threads have a lot of Linux stuff. Also if it's indieshit just pirate the Windows version and run it in Wine.

Easton Rivera
Easton Rivera

BCG's been getting tons of them uploaded in the last few months. Granted, most of them barely get any seeds in the double digits and they still have performance issues compared to the Windows versions, but they're still there.

Lincoln Moore
Lincoln Moore

GNUfags are like communists, and not just because of the MUH FREE SHIT mentality.

"I swear guys, the worker's revolution/year of the Linux Desktop will happen ANY DAY NOW!!!"

Nolan Thompson
Nolan Thompson

Dual-booting is actually pretty simple and painless, even moreso if you have a second HDD to install to. Partitioning your main drive is fine and low-risk, it just takes longer and makes the process a little more tedious. Most distros have install scripts that detect your existing Windows installation, and offer you some form of "side-by-side" (dual-boot) option. You can also set up your install partitions and mount points manually if you want. It's worth reading up on the process a little; the only thing I'll recommend is putting your /home directory in its own partition. That's where all your config files and user data go by default (analogous to c:\users\<username>\ in Windows) and it makes it simpler to reinstall or distro-hop if it's segregated.

As for running games, it depends on the game. If it's self-contained and has saves and configs in its install directory, you can just run it by doing wine /path/to/game.exe. If it reads configs and/or saves from the registry, you might need to export those keys and import them into WINE's regedit if you don't want to reconfigure or start over. Similarly, if it saves to AppData\Local or somesuch in Windows you may need to copy those over or use a symlink pointing to the Windows files. WINE's default directory is /home/<username>/.wine, and below that is a drive_c folder which contains a familiar Windows file structure.

Most games will need some Windows component overrides to work. A script called winetricks is used for this. It automagically downloads and sets up the specified components. d3dx9 is the most common one, but different games need different things. Use appdb.winehq.org/ to see how compatible the game is reported to be by other users and what workarounds may be needed.

It's a weird transition from Windows to Linux, especially jumping headfirst into WINE, but after a week or two of Googling how to do basic things you'll find yourself getting comfortable with it.

Christian Rodriguez
Christian Rodriguez

That was not a Linux thing faggot, learn your facts, Linux is not tied to GRUB2 and GRUB2 can load up any OS using the multiboot specification, including Windows.
GRUB2 is a mess like all GNU software and should be exterminated from the face of earth.

Connor Mitchell
Connor Mitchell

free shit
Open source is the best way forward for ensuring games are fixable by anyone when they break, can be improved and modded in ways the devs will not and for ease of preservation.

Alexander Mitchell
Alexander Mitchell

this

OpenXcom, OpenMW, and GemRB are all rock-solid proof of this idea

because communists would be completely fine with distributing commercial binaries to monetary profit amirite

Easton Green
Easton Green

60% of the games on Steam now have GNU ports already.
Locked to DRM =/= GNU port

Ian Davis
Ian Davis

free as in freedumb
I don't get this meme. Does it mean linux is an illusion made up by the jews?

Ian Perry
Ian Perry

Every part has a replacement, even the parts that give it its name.
The HURD kernel still isn't ready for primetime though it's actually getting worked on again, and crap like systemd is becoming monolithic.

Jack Turner
Jack Turner

60% of the games on Steam now have GNU ports
Are those the games targeted towards the 60% of all gamers that are girls?

Tyler Young
Tyler Young

mfw windows is a bigger risk to itself than any sort of malware or crack

I've already seen 2 windows 8 machines self destruct due to checkdisk going full retard and destroying the entire MBR or file structure.

Jason Torres
Jason Torres

destroying a machine with checkdisk

what were you checking it with, a lathe?

That's a case of PEBKAK if I've ever seen one.

Ethan Hernandez
Ethan Hernandez

Why the FUCK haven't you installed GNU/Linux yet, Holla Forums?
Told a Linuxfag to beat a game with certain conditions and I'll install Linux. Not going to install until he does.

Jason Anderson
Jason Anderson

Not mine, I was tasked to recover data from them.

Even as pebkac, windows destroying itself more effectively than any sort of of malware is hilariously awful.

Luis Phillips
Luis Phillips

ITT: OS Hipsters

Dylan Carter
Dylan Carter

Anyone else using Trisquel? What the fuck is this? Transparency used to show what was behind the terminal, not the fucking destkop.

Brody Lee
Brody Lee

implying you need steam to play steam games
Thanks, cracks.

Jordan Richardson
Jordan Richardson

Dear wincucks: your OS comes with giant ads and sends all your info straight to the NSA. You don't own your software, you lease it and they can do whatever they want with it and you can't do shit, including data mining and removing programs and files they don't like. You are literally part of a botnet, your bandwidth is used to push Microsoft® windows© 10® updates to other computers. Stay cucked.

Brody Johnson
Brody Johnson

It's probably just that you have compositing turned off, the Xfce terminal program does the same fake transparency thing without compositing. I don't recommend enabling it just for fancy eye-candy though it's detrimental overall.

Nolan Young
Nolan Young

using 10

Anything past 7 is asking for the NSA BBC with no lube.

Even after stripping the "Customer Experience Improvement Program" garbage from 7 I still feel like theres shit lurking

James Gomez
James Gomez

not using windows xp without botnet
being such a linoox fag and literally prasing hipster software

reliability > "free" software

back to >>/tech/

Jaxon Phillips
Jaxon Phillips

The HURD kernel still isn't ready for primetime yet
Debian and Gentoo can use FreeBSD's kernel.

crap like systemd is becoming monolithic
But alternatives will always be available. There are projects to modularize it and operating systems that are fairly compatible with Linux but don't have the features necessary to support systemd.

Caleb Anderson
Caleb Anderson

I have an i5-6600K, so I'm already botnet. If I switched back to Linux, I'd probably use proprietary video drivers too. For vidya, the botnet cannot be escaped.

Luis Johnson
Luis Johnson

I'm curious on why you guys choose Windows 7 over 8.1 besides the whole metro UI. According to this link, Windows 8.1 is almost all around better than 7.

itpro.co.uk/desktop-software/21919/windows-81-vs-windows-7-which-is-best-for-you

I'm no /tech/ user but I always see people prefer 7 over 8.1. Maybe you guys know something I don't?

Dylan Fisher
Dylan Fisher

Clunky and slow interface, CEIP/NSA spyware built right into the fucking OS, and general bullshit that makes no sense for a desktop OS.

You gain a handful of FPS at the expense of a usable desktop environment. Not worth it in the slightest.

Grayson Butler
Grayson Butler

trying to justify using botnet proprietary software

Fucking kill yourself

Matthew Perry
Matthew Perry

The NSA/M$ love affair goes farther back than win xp

Jacob Peterson
Jacob Peterson

Please stop doing this shit, Buzzy. Nobody cares about your stupid fucking circlejerk of an OS.

Charles Robinson
Charles Robinson

I want to use GNU+ but I don't have the patience to deal with constant fuckery, when someone makes a user friendly distro I'll re-install it.
Ubuntu is a pile of shit, if you actually think it's user friendly you need to re-install it yourself

Joseph Stewart
Joseph Stewart

thinking I'm trying to justify it

Typical freetard spouting shit because of his lack of reading comprehension.

Also there is no difference between open and proprietary software to an end user. Until every man woman and child learns how to read source its pointless to push Open Source software
NSA_key was discovered in XP, with contracts I believe as far back as 95 era.

Jonathan Reed
Jonathan Reed

Mint is pretty neat, mimic's window's user friendliness pretty well.

Ryan Walker
Ryan Walker

use linux distro
most of them have their own special software/package manager
meaning you can just randomly install things from internet
you're only supposed to install things that have previously been uploaded to that repository
if you download a program from the internet, you will have to compile and install it yourself, and there's a good chance it won't work right or fuck up something else
what if you want proprietary software? even if you're willing to pay for it, you're going to have to compile and install yourself

and before you say ">proprietary software" I'm talking about things like sony vegas or gamemaker or flash or fruity loops, stuff like that. all of it's easy to pirate on windows but some of those products don't have linux ports. If they do, you have to jump through hoops to get it to work on your specific distro even if you buy it legit.

Carter Jackson
Carter Jackson

Seconding this. I use Mint on a laptop for doing stuff while traveling, and it's very user-friendly as far as Linux goes.

If you want something a bit more powerful, then try Fedora Core. I used it for a few years in college and it held up very well.

Jackson Price
Jackson Price

Windows 7 is fine, but I wont switch to 10, I'll probably be forced to use Linux some day.

Jace Brown
Jace Brown

Also there is no difference between open and proprietary software to an end user. Until every man woman and child learns how to read source its pointless to push Open Source software
This is not true. Because open source is almost equivalent to free software, I'll walk through the requirements for free software.

0. The freedom to use the software for any purpose
This is relevant for all end users.

1. The freedom to study and modify the software
This means that malicious features can be discovered (which affects all users, not just the discoverer).

2. The freedom to redistribute the software
This is also obviously relevant for all end users. You can typically get the software easily and legally, you can give it away, and you don't have to deal with DRM and license keys and trials and all that crap.

3. The freedom to distribute modified versions of the software
This means that malicious features can be stripped out to create a better version, which is good for end users and often means that the malicious features won't be included in the first place. It also means that if the developers stop developing the software or take it in a bad direction the software can still be continued. It takes technical people for that to happen, but it benefits end users.

Jaxon Mitchell
Jaxon Mitchell

And all of those which require an understanding of the system in question. Unlike you and I people don't care, no have the mental capacity to experience these freedoms.

We are talking the average joe here, none of which are going to do any of this.

Jacob Diaz
Jacob Diaz

wasn't there a point a year or so ago where they were just selling boxes with a steam installer inside and nothing else?

Connor Hall
Connor Hall

Pretty much, MGSV was just a key and a steam installer.

Jaxon Rivera
Jaxon Rivera

Because of the other 40%. And because Windows 7 are not forbidden to have yet.

Justin Phillips
Justin Phillips

Enjoy it while it lasts, I suppose. Microsoft's monopoly is about to finally come to an end.

Brody Lewis
Brody Lewis

Antergos is nice and easy to setup. (Basically Arch).
Fedora is … okay. You have to enable a certain repo for proprietary stuff.
Linux Mint was alright, but I ran into a couple issues with ubuntu-based distros and gaming that I haven't run into with others. Gaben only knows why companies choose Ubuntu to base off of for gaming. (Not that it actually matters)

Evan Thomas
Evan Thomas

Hopefully.

This is what happens when you stack a US corporation with curry niggers.

Thomas Wood
Thomas Wood

Because Linux users are hipsters and/or elitist faggots. I've seen on this very board Linuxfags getting uppity and going on autistic rants because someone dared to install Steam.

Robert Martinez
Robert Martinez

implying
I haven't used Windows in almost three years.

Oliver Ortiz
Oliver Ortiz

Okay Pajeet.

Sebastian Wilson
Sebastian Wilson

They are basically free windows marketers at this point. They do more damage to their own image than they do trying to out M$ as the scum bags they are.

Juan Sanders
Juan Sanders

So they don't deserve them? They have the mental capacity, they just aren't given the chance to develop it because they're treated like livestock by software manufacturers.

Justin White
Justin White

This. There are so many old games that would benefit from having their source code opened.

Jayden Jenkins
Jayden Jenkins

They deserve them, and until you and I figure out a way to get them to acknowledge them there is literally no difference in software to them.

You need to fight for the user, not your own views.

Leo Cook
Leo Cook

Because there are more games than just the ones on steam.
I play on my pirated windows 7 because I want to play videogames, not jerk off about with linux,
Tried that shit on my laptop a few years back, ended up playing no games but Age of Empires.
Also my 500gb visual novel folder just wouldn't have worked at all.

Alexander Miller
Alexander Miller

Good work. Why would I like to share an OS with retards like you?

Connor Lewis
Connor Lewis

Why the FUCK haven't you installed GNU/Linux yet, Holla Forums?
Drivers, or rather lack of.
Wine still needs lots of work.

Xfce is the best DE

Luis Moore
Luis Moore

(checked)
quit your WINE-ing

Ian Parker
Ian Parker

I use several different platforms, be it on actual hardware or in VMs and I must say, that despite all of the massive faults and issues that come with it, that gamer or not, Windows is superior for the majority of people and it pains me to say that because I prefer Linux and OS X way more than Windows.

And while a lot of Stallman followers might just chalk it up to people being stupid or blaming Apple and MS for being businesses, the fact is that Linux is great for servers due to it's stability, great for HTPCs due to software like Kodi, and great for casual, non professional use cases like importing pics from an phone or browsing the internet, etc.

But due to a lack of decent software, for a lot of people, I cannot within good reason recommend Linux for a large part of the population.

One example is the fact that a lot of people own iOS devices. I know most of you hate Apple and shit but the fact is, the software that claims to work with iDevices are trash. I own some iDevices and I know this from experience. In one case, it seems like Linux caused an iPhone to not be readable by iTunes on a Windows machine, forcing me to factory reset the thing.

In this case, how can I really suggest a person who has this issue to go to Linux? Sure, I can tell them to sell their Apple devices and get Android stuff, then install Linux but this is not realistic when even telling some people they are better off replacing their 15+ year old computer with something more modern is often met with, "but I can't afford that or I don't want to do that".

On top of this, the Linux crowd doesn't help things either. I'm not a sensitive person at all, so I can deal with this shit but seeing how fucking hostile some of you Linux fans get over people asking questions or pointing out that maybe Apple or MS might be a better option is fucking stupid and it prevents someone who wants to use Linux from actually learning how to solve issues.

Really, this "GNU plus Linux" meme needs to die, like the rest of this goddamn shitty computer industry. When fucking Linux and it's bullshit are the only real computer options that aren't Apple or MS it's a sign that computers are all just fucking shit. You just deal with the least shitty garbage.

FUCK

Dominic Ramirez
Dominic Ramirez

Drivers, or rather lack of.
GNU has drivers available for virtually everything, though.

Good luck getting an obscure old printer to run on Windows.

Wine still needs lots of work.
Wine just werks for a bunch of games, unless you're a cuck for DX12.

David Turner
David Turner

degree
just in IT
you're fucking retarted

Michael Hernandez
Michael Hernandez

install linux mint
try to use Wine
almost all games run at half the FPS they do on windows
most don't work at all
try to play supported games
only Source games run well
sometimes even then they just suddenly close without an error message

I'll give it until Vulcan gets fully adopted.

Oliver Rogers
Oliver Rogers

Despite some of my rantings about Linux, have you tried Skullgirls? That plays very well in Linux.

Jaxson Bennett
Jaxson Bennett

IT degree
can get a degree in cable pluggage
there are people proud of this

Brayden Evans
Brayden Evans

Well it's a 2D fighter, I should fucking well hope it runs well in Linux. Then again I've got mint on my cheapy laptop and that can barely run Lisa The Painful RPG

Juan Martinez
Juan Martinez

I would have tried other games, but for some reason I didn't have TF2 anymore and I thought that was a Linux game as well and of course Fable isn't on Linux so it was the only game I had.

Juan Harris
Juan Harris

I own some iDevices
Opinion discarded.

Thomas Myers
Thomas Myers

Like I care, aspie. Not like your opinions are any better.

Connor Morris
Connor Morris

Linux still doesn't fucking have clicklock.

Charles Martin
Charles Martin

Dual-boot for DirectX games and set a VM or use Wine for anything else.

If you only use your computer ONLY for Internet browsing and Games, stay with windows, or Get a Mac and Get bullied.

Carter Morales
Carter Morales

Anyone played the best Linux exclusive yet ?

Xavier Baker
Xavier Baker

exclusive
Isn't supertuxkart available for windows too?

>wanting operative system exclusivity

Andrew White
Andrew White

Exclusivity will be the only way to get these dumbass Windows cucks to convert.

Jason Peterson
Jason Peterson

Official GNU package coming through.

Nicholas Bailey
Nicholas Bailey

YOUUUU'LL BEEEE FREEEEEEEEEEE

Dominic Foster
Dominic Foster

PC has no games

nothing has any games nowadays, only justifiable purchases are for nintendo's first party (in which case the games should be pirated because fucking classic games still cost like 20, maybe 40 dollars) and maybe a vita (pretty sure that's never getting modded, though) or PSP if you wank to nips and their VNs

Liam Myers
Liam Myers

Because I have no necessity to make myself feel like a 1337 h4x0rz by having to type on a code to open Palemoon.

Xavier Torres
Xavier Torres

he fell for the palemoon meme

Ryder Stewart
Ryder Stewart

no games
(i wanna play battlefront 2 'n shit)
that is literally the only reason why I don't switch.
sage not vidya.

Jordan Carter
Jordan Carter

For the same reason I don't like Dark Souls. It has a bunch of retards constantly shilling it as if it was the second comming of Jesus.

Besides, I don't believe in public property; when a produce is free it means you're the produce

Lucas Gutierrez
Lucas Gutierrez

I like the emptiness of arch linux. How quickly it boots up into nothing. It is the OS of my personality.

Liam Walker
Liam Walker

freedom is a meme

Tyler Ramirez
Tyler Ramirez

That's because linux is shit for desktop use, it's better off as server or phone OS

Nathan Gonzalez
Nathan Gonzalez

me too. fingers crossed for Vulkan API though; at worst games will be easier to WineHQ hopefully

Benjamin Brown
Benjamin Brown

i3

William Walker
William Walker

linux is shit for desktop
GIT GUD

Juan Adams
Juan Adams

I got gud and it sucked ass

The bullshit store thing is so limited it's not even funny

I have to scour through 10 (I exaggerated of but it's so I get my point across) google pages before finding what I want

Sebastian Reyes
Sebastian Reyes

Try Fedora. It's actually just werks, compared to Ubuntu.

Ethan Wilson
Ethan Wilson

I use a stripped down build of Windows 7 exclusively for my gaming PC, and only for the program compatibility. As much as I like Linux, I can't play a lot of my favorite games, and the programs I use to make music aren't on linux. Every other machine I own is running Mint, and I think it's the best OS you could have for a laptop.

That being said, some of you people here are faggots. How could you be such a stupid motherfucker that linux is too hard to understand?

Aaron Brown
Aaron Brown

store thing
Literally wat.

scouring webpages
All you need is located in manpages.

Juan Carter
Juan Carter

different = hard to understand

Cameron Thomas
Cameron Thomas

Fedora.
NO

Redhat is the cancer killing the GNU ecosystem.

Gabriel Parker
Gabriel Parker

WINDOWS 8.1 MASTER RACE

Isaiah Smith
Isaiah Smith

he doesn't have seperate machines for vidya and business and browsing

Jayden Barnes
Jayden Barnes

/tech/index.html

Lincoln King
Lincoln King

triple double
I thought we called it the double triple

Andrew Anderson
Andrew Anderson

I like arch
Posts picture of Debian

Bentley Hernandez
Bentley Hernandez

dumb question, is there anything similar to rainmeter on linux?

Jonathan Miller
Jonathan Miller

Conky

Oliver Anderson
Oliver Anderson

If you're looking for something that shows information and don't need it to look as fancy as that, try conky. There's probably other software with a goal more similar to rainmeter, but conky is the most popular Linux software in the same general area.

Jaxson Collins
Jaxson Collins

But the distro itself is good, especially if need something that just works.
They're better than Canonical and Ubuntu anyway.

Nathan Diaz
Nathan Diaz

*if you need

Gavin Stewart
Gavin Stewart

Steam is fucking botnet. DRM distilled to its essence.

Brody Collins
Brody Collins

You have desktop compositing off.

Matthew Moore
Matthew Moore

No because for a double triple it would need to be XXXYYY, that's two triples. A triple double is three doubles, which is XXYYZZ, which is what he got. Just cause some wrestler yells "double triple" doesn't mean you should try and shoehorn it into relevancy.

Josiah Roberts
Josiah Roberts

using GNU/Linux AND using Steam
Delete your OS, you're supporting proprietary software.
You're defeating your own cause.

Cameron Rivera
Cameron Rivera

What the fuck are you even talking about? I mean, I don't particularly like steam either, but that's no reason to start spouting retarded shit like that.

Brody Young
Brody Young

Literally no one in this thread knows what dualbooting is.

Dylan Peterson
Dylan Peterson

Fuck that, I don't trust Windows running on the same system. One laptop for pure Debian waifu and one for dirty Windows slut.

Jack Rogers
Jack Rogers

dual booting mentioned a couple dozen times
literally no one knows what it is

You are literally stupid.

Carson Morgan
Carson Morgan

I never saw the point of those things. Seriously, who needs this sort of information in yo face at all times?

Levi Bailey
Levi Bailey

I don't play any new games so OSX works for me with boxer for dos games and openemu.

Grayson Morgan
Grayson Morgan

already installed linux
gentoo is so fucking good

I had this same issue when I bought supreme commander years ago.
Got it at a physical retailer, and it wouldn't fucking install without steam.

Christopher Bennett
Christopher Bennett

no Direct X 11 support

Ryder Sanders
Ryder Sanders

Getting Linux to escape proprietary software
But anything I would ever possibly wanna use, including steam, is proprietary software

Why should I switch from Windows unless Microsoft literally makes it impossible to do anything on any of their OSes except Windows 10?

Brandon White
Brandon White

I take it you think DX is the only graphics api around?

Jewggle OpenGL and Vulkan.

Brandon Hernandez
Brandon Hernandez

That is by far the worst abomination of a desktop I have ever seen.

There are three fucking clocks
Date and time is listed twice
CPU usage is listed twice
Ram and HDD space is listed twice
Screen resolution is on there for some stupid reason
A second fucking dock at the top of the screen
CPU usage is at 41%, rainmeter takes up 21% just to show the damn desktop.
2GB Ram installed and half of it is spent idling on the desktop

I seriously hope you don't follow this desktop as an example user. Even if the computer had sufficient ram I still wouldn't touch this thing with a 10-foot pole. Not only is it redundant as hell it's a resource hog.

Blake Butler
Blake Butler

There is no point. Rain meter is for fags, at least conky let's you tweak the DE.

Jacob Reyes
Jacob Reyes

Despite the meme gentoo is pretty damn nice. Although some packages can take a long ass time to build from source I've found that USE flags are pretty much the best thing ever. The only time I've had trouble with gentoo was upgrading perl, but that was mainly just perlcleaner fucking with emerge.

Hunter Sanders
Hunter Sanders

What the fuck is that window? Is that how you have to play games on a mac? Why would you ever buy one of apple's overpriced pieces of shit?

Carter Ross
Carter Ross

You can also use the -bin packages for those that take too long to install. Since 99.99% of your system is still brought up from source, you don't actually lose anything usually.

Main problem with gentoo is that after a long time of using it, it magically stops working (i.e. you can't install anything or remove anything without breaking the system due to very complex USE and version dependency chains). You could probably save the system by resetting ALL your use flags and recompiling everything, but that's still very lame.
Second problem is that many packages are not very well-maintained, for example, none of the packages in the science overlay are compatible even with each other, and most don't even compile - there is no other source for them though.

Still, it performs significantly better than any other distro in terms of usability.

Aaron Cook
Aaron Cook

Main problem with gentoo is that after a long time of using it, it magically stops working (i.e. you can't install anything or remove anything without breaking the system due to very complex USE and version dependency chains)

Hmm, I haven't had any problems like that with my install so far., and I have about 1k packages installed. I can see how removing some packages would be hell though. For example, I bet if I tried to unmerge libreoffice or any pyton libraries I'd have a very bad time.

Jace Bailey
Jace Bailey

That's an emulator frontend.

Caleb Hall
Caleb Hall

That's your average linuxfag for you.

Caleb Taylor
Caleb Taylor

Oh, yes, because the #1 computer software company in the world ever trading with the government is something so conspiracy worthy. *rolls eyes*The reason why Win 10 is necessary for modern PC games is that it was specifically designed to handle them. Win 7 an Win 8 weren't, and so they could never unleash a game's full potential. Win 10 can.

yfw cucks like these are responsible for letting cancerous corporations live

Juan Williams
Juan Williams

Gentoo has been deprecated by Funtoo.

Parker Jones
Parker Jones

steam

Brandon Garcia
Brandon Garcia

This is a common misconception. Steamworks is the DRM (which not every game on Steam relies on), while Steam is just closed-source software. Although it would be better if Steam let you download their games from a website with 100% FLOSS javascript rather than be forced to use Steam.

Nathan Nelson
Nathan Nelson

which not every game on Steam relies on
a huge majority of the library does however.

Steam is also an offshoot of their DRM software that evolved into the monster we know today, which is why they share a name. Steam was created as a noninvasive DRM platform that would not totally fuck over customers to a noticeable degree as well as offer enough DRM to make publishers feel "comfortable" releasing games on it.

Steam was literally created to be a DRM platform.By installing steam you are also installing steamworks regardless of if you bought a game that uses it or not.

Jace Perez
Jace Perez

Why? If its for freedom steam monitors your computer as well so I doubt it'll be beneficial to you, Also dual booting ruins the point of using linux

Isaiah Richardson
Isaiah Richardson

Also dual booting ruins the point of using linux
Not really. Boot into Windows for gaymen, stay on GNU for everything else, like shitposting on *chans.

Asher Stewart
Asher Stewart

Is OpenSUSE good?

Elijah Wright
Elijah Wright

I looked into Funtoo once or twice, and I'm still not sure if there really is an advantage to switching. I've heard that the portage tree in Funtoo is managed by Git, but other than that I don't know much about it.

Ryan Hill
Ryan Hill

As long as you avoid Canonical and Redhat like the plague, you're good.

I would recommend Void:
voidlinux.eu

Isaiah Thomas
Isaiah Thomas

deprecated
I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Gabriel Edwards
Gabriel Edwards

noninvasive DRM

Carter Turner
Carter Turner

Don't ask me, ask valve.

The best I can assume is thatthey wants a DRM that is below the "this would piss off the customer" line and have it comfortably in the "This is annoying but tolerable" area that most normalfags are fine with.

Hunter Rivera
Hunter Rivera

All DRM is invasive by definition. That's impossible.

Ethan Powell
Ethan Powell

Invasive DRM is DRM which intrudes upon you, rootkits, CD-key activations, securom.

Steam is passive DRM, while it does do a check to see if you own the game, it's a one-step-check and requires absolutely no effort to fool, this is by design. And while there are ways to make Steam DRM "uncrackable," no one bothers to go to that length to implement it in the ways that it would be because it's a pain in the ass and no one wants that.

Software as a service is a working business model, evident by the fact that Valve is a multi-billion dollar corporation. They don't stop their customers (either on the distribution or consumer end) from making any changes or modifications to the products they make, so you can put DRM in your game on Steam or you can crack the DRM in your game on Steam to run without it.

Steam doesn't validate the binaries unless you do a manual integrity check, and Steam doesn't stop its publishers from putting lame duck DRM into their games. But Steam itself is passive DRM.

Kayden Edwards
Kayden Edwards

It's really a long-term issue, not a package-count issue per se. The longer you try to maintain the system, the more likely it is that the next version of package X requires an older version of package Y despite the next version of package Z requiring the new version of package Y. Whatever resolution you choose, you have to put a directive in your files and that shit piles up until the system becomes unmaintainable.

Joseph Gonzalez
Joseph Gonzalez

the point of using linux
There is no single point of using Linux. I know a lot of people who run it for software compatibility reasons. They study computer science and every course is designed for Unix-likes.

If you think there's only one reason to run Linux you must think it's a pretty shitty operating system.

Ethan King
Ethan King

Most of those run on WINE. Most DX11 games still have issues though. Go check the state of support:

appdb.winehq.org/

Chase Brown
Chase Brown

Check again mate. There has been a large influx of games in last few months uploaded by verified uploader. Remember to seed.

Jacob Torres
Jacob Torres

I've had Mint installed for about a year and I get about 2500 lines of packages with command "dpkg -l". I have games, wine, libreoffice etc. What distro do you use? Did we use same or similar command?

Xavier Sanders
Xavier Sanders

user are you still around?

I have linux mint tips for you

Dylan Campbell
Dylan Campbell

fuckit

here are some things to help you get started

this is a shitty guide I wrote and pretty much don't update any more but maybe will one day, if you like it save it because dropbox will change the link if I edit it
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55873925/comfy guide for linux virgins and tech casuals draft.html

This is a script I use every time I do a fresh install of linux mint, it speeds of the process of gettting shit I want installed and even installs add-ons for firefox
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55873925/master.sh

half done instructions for running a script are in the guide

Cooper Walker
Cooper Walker

that image

hehe

Carter Lewis
Carter Lewis

Why don't you read a post before responding? You sound like a sperg.

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