How long should a game's online functions be supported for?

Jason White
Jason White

How long should a game's online functions be supported for?

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Liam Stewart
Liam Stewart

Multiplayer is cancer

Dylan Ramirez
Dylan Ramirez

Until the last player alive decided to take down his own server

Gabriel Peterson
Gabriel Peterson

Forever
not letting people make their own dedicated servers

Evan Jenkins
Evan Jenkins

Dedicated or non dedicated servers?
Company hosting the servers or no?
These things are important, gayass.

Like how Microsoft used to only host the matchmaking server but the OG xbox actually did the host for the gameserver.

Jordan Long
Jordan Long

At least a year if no one plays

Austin Price
Austin Price

It should be mandatory that every multiplayer game have offline multiplayer, LAN options or allow players to make their own servers.

Joseph Jackson
Joseph Jackson

Ideally developers should give the players server tools when they don't want to support it anymore

Ayden Lewis
Ayden Lewis

This. If the dev is going to abandon a game, give the players that remain the option to keep it going themselves.
But for some reason, devs don't want to do this. What is the rationalization for not doing this? It's not like they're going to reopen the servers once they're closed (let's just pretend Demon Souls doesn't count). I'm talking about games that are well and truly abandoned.

Carson Gomez
Carson Gomez

This.

Jordan Walker
Jordan Walker

Wasn't there going to be a PC version?

Isaiah Morgan
Isaiah Morgan

Dedicated or non dedicated servers?

Company hosting the servers or no?

These things are important, gayass.
I don't even know how most games work. Say for a game like Call of Duty, does Activision provide the server's or does Microsoft and Sony? If the former then why do they want a yearly fee to play online? Regardless there should be a minimum if they're selling you a product advertising that feature, but the reason I'm asking is because I don't know and I want to know more about it, gayass.

Adrian Wilson
Adrian Wilson

Devs should just be forced to make dedicated server support in their games. Left4Dead 2 is practically dead and on life support. There's only a few thousand players a day. But all of them are in dedicated servers.
And what is Valve losing from these dedicated servers? Nothing. There is no excuse to not have dedicated server support.

Bentley Miller
Bentley Miller

Get them to move onto the next game in the franchise, if there is a sequel, or budget cuts resulting in the servers going offline.

Dominic Ortiz
Dominic Ortiz

Ideally? Forever.

Realistically? a 5 year plan minimum, ending with the company giving out free tool to allow user-made/maintained servers, that should be available for atleast 2 years after the server closes (by then the software should be available on third party download sites and torrents)

Charles Phillips
Charles Phillips

What is the rationalization for not doing this?
forces them to buy the sequel

Chase Clark
Chase Clark

It depends, some companies hosted their own servers and some didn't. Microsoft didn't host the "servers" for Halo 2 and Halo 3 as what most people typically think of as a 'server' which was an individual server that pinged a master matchmaking server that pinged a console to tell it to connect to an IP hosting the server, being on whoever was picked to be "host".
The case being though, when a company is hosting both, the master matchmaking server AND the game servers, when the servers are discontinued the games are basically dead when they pull the plug and take both the matchmaking and server hosting software with them. Since in those cases the host software is not bundled with the client software.

Christian Anderson
Christian Anderson

This.

If you put a component in your game it should last as long as every other part of your game.

Christopher Parker
Christopher Parker

Yes, it'll be F2P from what I know.

Grayson Reyes
Grayson Reyes

Yep. But for some fucking reason there's still North American release date, it's only out in Japan and Russia

Gavin Barnes
Gavin Barnes

I didn't even know this game was already out.

Grayson Howard
Grayson Howard

F2P
Japanese
It's gonna be a fucking mess of pay2win garbage. It should already be considered DOA

Leo Kelly
Leo Kelly

You sound so fucking entitled right now someone might say unironically.

Anthony Lopez
Anthony Lopez

But for some reason, devs don't want to do this. What is the rationalization for not doing this?

"Woe to the Pharisees, for they are like a dog sleeping in the manger of oxen, for neither does he eat nor does he let the oxen eat".

Jacob Cruz
Jacob Cruz

It was out since December. But they didn't bother advertising it anyways.

Not like it matters since it didn't even really have a community.

Ryder Howard
Ryder Howard

Is there a place where you can check if games still support online multiplayer? Say if I bought Anarchy Reigns for PS3 how would I know if I can still play online?

How much in general would a dedicated server cost for a regular/not GTA or Halo type game? Would Devil's Third have costed them a lot of money to do that and support it for at least two years after release?

Microsoft didn't host the "servers" for Halo 2 and Halo 3 as what most people typically think of as a 'server' which was an individual server that pinged a master matchmaking server that pinged a console to tell it to connect to an IP hosting the server, being on whoever was picked to be "host".
Did that entail teling it which players to connect? Because didn't they advertise some type of smart matchmaking so people who suck will be more likely to get paired with people who suck and some type of "I like cussing" or "family friendly" options? I'm not sure if that was just certain games or how that worked (or even IF it actually worked)

Anthony Robinson
Anthony Robinson

That was with Halo Reach onwards.
But yes the client profile would be pinged to the server, which also allows it to matchmake players through their "Reputation" on xbox live, as being a dick or not, as well as other filters.

Thomas Rodriguez
Thomas Rodriguez

The Master Server is the most important part. Without it, no one is getting online. The only reason Tribes 2 is still running is because someone intercepted the packets on the final day of official support was able to make their own master server.
At least I think that's how it went. It's been a while.

Jacob Cook
Jacob Cook

Oh okay, that does seem cool if it works. I think Microsoft is doing some type of club/request system now, so maybe it didn't work that well? I suppose there is a lot of people think cussing is cool, but calling someone a retarded fag should be punishable by death though.

Caleb Gutierrez
Caleb Gutierrez

If a company is going to shut down their servers then they should update the game so people can run their own in it's place, it's like devs don't take time into account when they make games, maybe I'll want to play it again years down the line and when those servers are down half or god forbid all of the game will be inaccessible.

Michael Mitchell
Michael Mitchell

Creating and releasing a server application isn't hard. Running a server isn't hard. Modifying any network-enabled game to connect to a different server isn't hard. The only reason that publishers let games die is to force you to stop playing it, usually in favor of some other product they've shat out in the meantime.

Noah Price
Noah Price

What is the rationalization for not doing this?
money

Caleb Myers
Caleb Myers

Regardless
Here is a graph explaining it
Sometimes the food comes with the client.

Tyler Hill
Tyler Hill

He also changed the login to a kind of offline ticket granting system, so there's no need for a login server once your token is generated. It's really neat.

Logan Baker
Logan Baker

This doesn't make any sense.

Caleb Cook
Caleb Cook

The master server hosts the menu
Which you can pick the burger from
You being the client are not given the tools and materials to assemble the burger or assemble multiple and server more than one person.

Ryder Garcia
Ryder Garcia

I guess it would make more sense if the Cook, was the host. Since a Cook can be a client and a server.

Liam Wright
Liam Wright

released without warning
didn't even get to reserve a copy
game comes out & it's $300 due to scalpers

Was it a good game? Who knows! Nobody played it.

Logan Bell
Logan Bell

Oh, I thought you were saying the Host was the burger

Asher Garcia
Asher Garcia

How long should a game's online functions be supported for?
For a non mmorpg I guess until it's no longer profitable or zero players. Which is why I was never a fan of mmorpg, but that's just me. For everything else, pretty much nailed it. Treating vidya as if it's e-commerce or e-gambling usually turns it cancerous.

Jaxon Powell
Jaxon Powell

Umm
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Alexander Peterson
Alexander Peterson

Can't you get it digitally for a more reasonable price? It's still ridiculous though, Nintendo clearly didn't want to release it.

Brayden Harris
Brayden Harris

It makes me wonder why they didn't just let XSEED publish it like what was rumored. They didn't want to be associated with Fatal Frame 5, and they sure as fuck didn't want to be associated with this.

Having played it I can say it was okay. There are some good ideas and it is fun in a low budget PS2 game published by THQ sort of way, but the execution is sadly lackluster.

Jordan Green
Jordan Green

I meant at release. Why buy it now? Nobody's playing it online anyway.

at least with anarchy reigns the people who wanted to play it online had a good 2 months before the english version came out dead on arrival.

Brayden Rogers
Brayden Rogers

In some cases, they reached their peak years ago and no matter what games they make today, it'll never be as good as their previous title. They know that if they just simply gave you the keys to make your own server and have people join in and play while their newer titles suck, why would you buy them?

Its another thing too. They want to force people to buy the sequels and keeping the servers active for the previous game or handing you over the keys to it would harm their profits.

All in all: Money.

Ian Carter
Ian Carter

Considering the shelf life of the average game:

Two years.

Let's face it: nobody cares after a few months anyway. How many games actually stay popular for a long time?

Angel Carter
Angel Carter

How many games actually stay popular for a long time?
The good ones

Logan Thompson
Logan Thompson

Tons, there are people STILL playing Diablo online
Diablo fucking ONE

Noah White
Noah White

Not really.

Everyone is just looking for the next hype.

MMOs last the longest because of the community I suppose.

Carson Collins
Carson Collins

And suddenly I think of Destiny of Spirits for the Vita. That one didn't last long, was F2P + cash shop on a gacha drawing system, and held lots of Sony-themed characters. I'm not even sure it lasted a full year.

But it did give me this, which I really hope makes an appearance in Gravity Rush 2.

Tyler Brooks
Tyler Brooks

I think it was like a year and a half. I can't say I'll miss it though. I have no idea why players would waste their time and the devs would waste their art on that. They should've just put the extra work in to make it a real game. That Taro Friend Finder game for Vita was better.

Jeremiah Evans
Jeremiah Evans

Everyone is just looking for the next hype.
Nice projection

Mason Cooper
Mason Cooper

Pretty much this
In fact shutting down servers in less than a decade should be lawsuit worthy.
That will make those kikes making yearly multiplayer only games reconsider

Henry Ward
Henry Ward

/thread

Brandon Allen
Brandon Allen

indefinitely

buying a multiplayer game without proper local/LAN options

William Peterson
William Peterson

How to tell someone was on cuckchan vitagen circa early 2014; ask them about Destiny of Spirits.

Ethan Hughes
Ethan Hughes

Uhh or just owned a Vita?

Jose Rivera
Jose Rivera

Reminder that EA has already shut down servers for a game that required online authentication for single player. Didn't release a patch or anything. The game's disc is now useless and they don't give a shit.

Lucas Taylor
Lucas Taylor

That's why you never should buy video games. This shit happens.

Logan Hughes
Logan Hughes

As long as the developer feels like it is viable. BUT if they do decide to shut it down they should at least be decent and release the tools needed to make your own master server or whatever. So that the community can take over. Devs that just kill their games and don't give people an option to keep playing it are assholes.

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