The Parent Plus Loan Bubble

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Thats right goys go to college and make sure you take out as much debt as you possibly can? 20 years old and 100,000 dollars in debt? Thats the trendy thing to do!

The next recession will be glorious. Reminder to not pay back student loans.

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My little brother has like 5k in loans and he just recently graduated. He is fanatic about paying it off as quick as possible before the juice starts running. Should I tell him not to bother and just get a fucking car already?

5k isnt much and can be paid back reasonably soon. Unless hes a neet then hes better off just waiting for it to collpase. Some anons will argue (((they))) wont let ir collapse but QE only works so long. The next subprime crisis is going to hit every market this time.

He should pay off a 5k loan. 5k will build his credit up.

Every time a boomer uses a political meme, I die inside a little.

t. worst generation.
Honestly, this can only be said by fellow millenials who didn't succumb to being bluepilled faggots. It may be factually true, but for boomers to say it is revolting. The worst hypocrites. Living off of the success of WWII they ruin subsequent generations and seek only to gratify themselves. Let it be known, the only travesty when boomers die will be the white population of the U.S. will probably go down to 20%.
Also, to the people ITT, remember, the little things count, draw the dollar symbol with two lines (i.e. the U running through the S), not one. We are not the peso, despite what they keyboard tells you it is $.

Thats true. Little faggot needs a vechicle tho.


Not, hes not a will-less faggot and graduated in STEM like I coaxed his ass to do. I never went to college but I made damn sure to tell him how to go about to get out with as little debt as possible and with a good degree. Fucker actually did it. My youngest brother though, 10k in the hole coming out his 3rd year and majoring in sociology. Dumbass.

Not disagreeing at all. Boomers are a cancer and really just need to die off. I think i will add how bad the pensions are in thos thread as well. Was debating about a general economic doom and gloom thread but decided id post one topic instead. Mods can be prune happy kikes here

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Good to hear your one brother isnt a faggot. He should get that loan paid off asap and stay debt free. Used cars if hes looking to get a car. sub prime loans on cars have increased dramatically and ford and other car makers are expecting used car prices to drop over 50% in the next few years.

Your younger brother is a huge fag. He deserves the jobless future that his meme degree will bring him. I suggest not helping him out when he comes whining to you for money. Fags like him deserve to die.

250,000k in debt faggots !
I work and study, lol.

Goyim is plural, you fucking redditor.

Holy shit nigger are you serious? Ive come across some people with bad student debt but 250k? Make sure you hide any assests in case you cant pay that back. Also enjoy those interest payments

Although I agree with your sentiment, one might refute you in saying: "You would know, eh kike?" also, "reddit-spacing" and all that.

you can do that?

Directly from the gov itself:

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Needs a car now though. Were moving in together and his ass will be commuting. Thats good for me though as Ill be paid off on my vechicle by then.

Kek. Yea, he's the baby though, soft heart. I love the little faggot though and will ride his ass till he makes something out of himself. Hes not totally helpless.

I still point you back to used cars. Absolutely no reason to get anywhere near cia hackable cars of today. Can get early 2000s and 90's in good condition. Dont fall for the brand new car scam

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I miss my tegra. Now I'm fucking sad, thanks user, you asshole.

Go fight for Israel to earn college, goyim. Or work at McDonald's until you're 40.

barrons.com/articles/the-millennial-penalty-inside-trumpcare-1489202641

The only smart thing to do is go on welfare at 18.

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I hope you're implying you're a resident physician then.

If I can just get the first one in this pajeet world, I'm set. It's just so troublesome, pick the wrong first job and you've already started sealing the deal on your path. I do not want a dead-end path that terminates where I don't want it to.

How? Don't they max out before that?

No. You'll always be able to borrow up to "cost of attendance", which includes calcs for food & rent. Medical school cost of attendance can easily top 75k/year, and that's *without* counting undergrad debt.

/r/ing the cap about the pension collapse that I forgot to save.

I got you user, gotta pull it up from my hard drives from that year

here we go

This is the thread about the dallas pension plan that was going to go bust:

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if thats not the right one i may have the other stuff you're talking about but i have to go through the hard drive. I will be posting about the pension crisis across america shortly

Are the stupid lolbergs at zerohedge really whining that parents try to help their children get an education? What's wrong with that young people are supposed to get help from their kin launching their lives. Instead of blaming parents anxious about their kid's future blame the kikes that run the financial system.

One of the biggest issues states will be facing is the increasing burden that pensions will bring them. With boomers retiring at a growing rate each year, tax payers are getting royally screwed by the pension ponzi schemes that states have. Let us look first look at one that got a lot of attention back in 2016 leading into 2017.

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For reference, the annual operating cost for the city of Dallas IS 1.1 billion. The heads of the fund literally asked that city of Dallas give an entie years worth of money over to them so they could continue to pay boomers. Let us move over to california with the calpers crisis.

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More than 200,000 civil servants became eligible to retire at 55 — and in many cases collect more than half their highest salary for life. California Highway Patrol officers could retire at 50 and receive as much as 90% of their peak pay for as long as they lived.

Moving on to Pennslyvania we see yet again another pension crisis that will cost taxpayers billions.

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40% of the states general fund would be diverted into pension payments. In case you aren't sure what the general fund is, it is basically what pays for fire, police, roads, essentially public services that YOU pay for and expect your tax money to fund. But now, 40% of what you pay will be diverted into pension payments which either means you have to cut public services and enjoy living in a shithole or tax the ever living shit out of your state citizens. The state of Pennsylvania has NO savings and states cannot print money so the only thing left to do is tax or cut. But at the rate boomers retire and the crazy amount of payments that pensioners get, the system will either crash or people will be moving out of the state. I can continue to post more, but I will see how the thread continues on.

No one is saying that the kikes aren't making things difficult and should be placed into ovens. However, if you go and read the article you have retarded parents taking out 25, 50, or even 100k in debt and have NO job or any other source of income to pay those debts. So what in turn happens? You now have people like you and me picking up the tab because the banks want their money back and it has to come from somewhere. That is what income based repayment systems do. So yes, it is parents fault when they take on an enroumous amount of debt that they know they cannot afford or even their sons/daughters. It's as stupid as buying a 300k house on a 20k annual income. Lets not even forget that alot of the parents are near retirement age and are now done with work and thus have social security payments garnished or go into income based repayment plans not having to pay anything.

Blaming the parents who worry about their kids is a very lolbertardian/jewy thing to do. Kikes play that trick all the time trying to create intergenerational conflict to distract the stupid goyim.

you fucking retard thats exactly what boomers did. they wanted things that were not possible to get TODAY rather than looking forward to bringing about the next generation in a non-fucked economy. You cannot blame kikes alone for this problem it WAS a generational issue. Kikes just banked off the greed of boomers. I can tie this into my post about pensions. Most pensions retired at 50. 50 fucking years of age is when they retired. They got nearly 90% of what they made from those pensions and left the workforce nearly 15 years before their private sector friends. But, because they wanted these huge pension plans to be comfy and save them from having to work, they DEMANDED that these funds allow them to retire early when the warning signs begin to show this was unsustainable. They knew very well that in the future they were going to face these problems and the burden would be passed onto the next generation. Blame the kikes all you want (and as you should) but blame boomers as well for being greedy bastards who looked out for their own self interests instead of those of the future generations.

To be fair, the boomers and the "greatest generation" both did a lot to deserve our hate. This student loan thing is a mere footnote in the compendium that begins with "thanks for helping to murder millions of our brothers and for wiping out the best chance the white race had to break free of kike control, grandpa" and "thanks for embracing multiculturalism & lax immigration policy to ensure that I and my children are discriminated against even as we become a minority in our own country, dad"

Fuck off with that lolberg lauren southern tier crap. The problem is (((liberal democracy))) which makes the state prey to those that get enough support and votes to capture it. We are national socialists we reject the entire concept of (((democracy))). The state has a duty to ensure intergenerational solidarity and justice and that would be the case under national socialism. Hating your parents and grandparents is sick and makes you the bestest goyim. Who the fuck cares if boomers got generous pensions look at the greater picture.

Because they could have chosen not and looked out for those generation that were coming ahead. But they wanted the money and they wanted a comfy retirement no matter what the cost was, even if that meant making their kids and grandkids footing the bill. You must be a boomer from your non-stop defense against them because they have nothing good going for them in their defense. Let us not forget that they are the generation that MOST supports israel and its agenda. Their a lost and when they're finally all gone we MIGHT be able to recover from the mess they left us. Fuck off with your defense of the most jewish generation of all time.

It's funny that I use this term unironically but this is literal victim blaming. Boomers did what the various institutions (that were a lot more trusted back then) told them to do. Blame the eternal jew not your parents you bluepilled good goy. This intergenarational conflict which is analogous to (((class warfare))) is top tier kikery and you have to reject all those lolbergtardian impulses that make you eat it up.

Are you even a national socialist or are you one of those trs tier lolbergs larping as "fashy goys"? I want to know that before wasting 30 minutes arguing with you.

go ahead and argue with me, despite my beliefs if you have a sound platform and are able to convince me that boomers are not responsbile for the problems they left us then ill be open to saying im wrong

Yes, they were totally blameless for supporting all these things and for wiping out the Reich.

No. Your false dichotomy doesn't hold. We hate the eternal jew *and* we hate those who (at best) negligently executed the jewish plots against the white race. FFS, the lure that the jews most often used with the boomers was the boomers' greed… yes, the earlier generations certainly are the innocents here.

k sure. I will tell you something the generous pensions boomers voted for themselves don't matter. It's meaningless who the fuck cares. Also who the fuck cares if the marginal tax rate is 28,9% or 31,12% or what expenses are deductable from your taxes. Blaming parents who take risky loans to help their kids get an education is vile and jewy. If the make bad financial decisions the state has a duty to protect them from predatory and unsound lending practices. Always keep an eye for the bigger picture the usury and exploitaion of the jewish financial system the lack of kinship and solidarity among family members the absense of racial consciousness (your extended family), the hostility of the state and institutions towards the founding population etc.

Also something to make you think. Isn't it weird that according to lolbergs/jews were are all supposed to be rootless individuals only glued together by the muh free market and muh constitution but then those same people have no problem making vast generalisations lumping together millions of people just to create intergenerational conflict and distract us?

Boomers didn't wipe out the Reich. That was two generations before them, and the decision was made by people one or two gens before even them. FFS

Didn't say they were entirely blameless but I will not condemn them before mentioning the real culprit. I see this all the time on Holla Forums and it's sickening. A 10 year old Swedish girl gets raped by rapefugees and retards laugh and say she deserved it but never mention or even know that 3 jewish families own 90% of the media in Sweden. Large majorities of people in nearly all white countries are against open borders but guess what the invasion continues. National Socialism is about loving your race. Blaming white people first when zog still exists is insane.

I don't own nothing, fam.


60% of total.
10x the ~6% of the actual loans.
All that (((capitalization))) compounded annually and every in-school deferred semester.
Should be billed as 120% interest loans, honestly.

I recommend a high sat-fat, high fiber, sprouted and fermented foods, no-fap diet. Lots of bacon and avocado !

Move your DNA.

Lol, not for me, I guess. The debt was too damn high for consolidation and I graduated just about (((10 years ago))).

Bailouts are for bankers, lol.

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1986 300ZX Z31 here
Going for a digital dash soon, get that tron aesthetics going.

Now that is some choice irony. Kek truly is a generous god.

This makes being forced to pay for their social security, medicare, and pensions a tiny bit more bearable.

Holy shit lad, why?

Wew lad that looks like a good reference for someone who doesn't know anything about cars.

Anyone else enjoy not having boomers in their lineage?


I suspect that there are a lot more people like me. But not enough. The people raised by the boomers are worse than the boomers themselves.

Will continue supporting and programming foss to screw microshit and Jews over. Neither the boomers or Jews deserve the fruit of our labors.

How retarded are you? Richard (((Stallman))), the head and founder of the Free Software Organization is a jew. What do jews love the most? Things which are free.

I had 50% GI bill so ended up with 21,000 in debt for my PTA license. This is after self paying for my bachelors at USF. Three years later it's paid off from me working 6-7 days a week and paying it off in full.
Sucks because I want to go back to school for my master's to make even more money but will need to get back into 60-70,000 in debt to do so. Will make 75-100,000 a year though so I think as someone who lives below his means it is a good trade.
You need to live cheap. I saved 30,000 last year and only made 59,000

Wow they'll garnish SS payments?

The bigger issue is the state level pension liabilities that are in the trillions. All unfunded liabilities add up to around 200 trillion. This student loan shit is peanuts and the housing bubble is a poor comparison. You don't get evicted from your degree.

Why? I have loans and was about to start making payments now that I have my safety savings back up. Is it gonna get wiped?

I have 50k debt. Good major but I just can't get a job. Overqualified for entry levels, not enough experience for anything else. I'm not stressing it because I can make money without a regular job, but you know, kinda sucks.

the interest rates are 6% and 7%. I don't think it's right that the government is actually making a profit off us. Put it at 3% for inflation, sure. But making a profit off an education loan is pretty kikey.

Just check "yes" to the box that asks if you had insurance. What's the IRS gonna do, check every single person? Fuck them. Punishing the poor for not being able to afford insurance. FUCK them. It's unconstitutional and I can't wait until it gets challenged. This is the new debtor's prison. Fucking obongo needs to hang. Insurance is a fucking cartel. I'll never, ever pay for health insurance. An HSA, sure. But why should i pay for fatty mcniggerfucker and jamal? Fatass boomers just looking to leech off us from another route, as if taxes weren't enough, now they want healthy young people forced to pay for kikesurance while the boomers in the plan are the only ones using it. Screw them. Not my fault you didn't take care of your body and now you have the beetus and ten bypass surgeries. Just go die, you old shits. Hell, if these old cunts would die then I could actually get a fucking job. Not fair that they hog them all. You have a house, you have a car, what more do you need? get the fuck out. If we didn't need them to vote for Trump's reelection I would advocate killing everyone over age 50.

My mom took a parentplus for me, but it's the understanding that I'm the one paying it back and it's just in her name. She has no money. Just saying, no one ever paid my way.

Good. No reason some old shit needs 49k a year. I've never in my life lived on more than 10k a year, why should she get it for sitting on her ass? Useless extravagant old shits.

Pension plans are completely retarded. It's just another name for welfare. It's not like we didn't see this coming, either. They promised retirees too much. Pension is ridiculous anyway, paying someone when they don't even work for you anymore. If you worked your whole life and saved nothing for retirement, you deserve to starve on the street.

Seriously. I have to live in shame every day that my nation helped murder our only savior and then smeared his name in the history books with vile lies. We haven't fought on the right side of a war in the last 80 years. Every day I live with this bitterness. Foreign countries hate me because of what these old shits did under the influence of the electric jew and kike propaganda. And now they're dragging the country to its knees with multi-culti, easy-on-crime, touchy-feely bullshit and rapefugees and feminists and other shit they allowed to happen, and the financial situation is just the last nail in the coffin. I want bombs to drop on the suburbs. I want all pensions, all social security stopped right now. I don't get a single dollar of help. If I didn't work I would be starving in a gutter. Their sheer entitlement makes my blood boil. Think about it. With all this pension nonsense they essentially got paid twice what their stated salary was when you factor it over a lifetime. So they got 100k for a job they could get out of high school. My generation gets a 30k job if they're lucky, not even a hope of a pension, and that's after huge debt and years of education. Because they destroyed the economy and fucked their own kids over with globalism so I have to compete with pajeet who would accept poverty wages for white collar work.

My generation has no hope left in the system. We don't expect social security when we retire, we don't expect pensions or any benefits at all. My retirement is going to come from what I can manage to save for it, and I can't count on papa State to save me. We've been dropped on our asses while they got golden parachutes, we grew up in dirt poverty while they lived it up on promises of future payment, aka what I have to pay for them.

I'm glad I have such a shitty job that I don't pay any income tax. I don't want a dime of what I worked for to go to them. God damn do I want a civil war. Kill Tyrone, Muhammad, and Shlomo while they're beating and robbing boomers. Two birds with one stone.

Doesn't 8ch run on nginx and other FOSS?

cut defense budget by 15%. free college.

:p

The finances are uninfuckingportant. We are trillions in debt because of the military spending, because of foreign aid, and because we allow other nations to dump their shit here instead of making our own shit to dump here.

Boomers I hate, but at the end of the day it all points back to the jew.

Yeah this is what I'm doing it's state sponsored deferment for a year before you have to prove income again. Just use old paychecks and a little mspaint wizardry to keep it up, fuck these kikes. 1 month unpaid tanks your credit and even if it's their fault, tough shit, fucking jews and their credit garbage, usury is a mortal sin.