Does the Warcraft movie fit in with the Rest of WoW lore?

Does the Warcraft movie fit in with the Rest of WoW lore?

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yes and its a pretty good movie, watched it 2 times with my guild

nope.

Yes, but there are a few discrepancies.
Such as Dalaran being a flying city before the events of Warcraft 3
Also, it's based on the human campaign from Warcraft 1, not WoW.

considering there are infinite universes in Warcraft now, yeah.

No.
The king is supposed to die while his castle is under siege not in front of the dark portal.
Garona is supposed to go batshit after killing the king. Now she is pure and noble.

Orgrim Doomhammer is not a frostwolf, he is from the Blackrock clan.

The Sargeras corruption is boiled down to - fel - green - bad. As Jones himself says.

Duncan jones is an orc lover, parhaps bigger than Metzen and an absolute pleb.
That is why he did the whole *muh honor* thing in the movie.


On the other hand it was all so retarded, it might be that the general vide of retardation fits well with warcraft lore.

so bad it's good

I believe is was confirmed that the movie is in its own canon.

They should've been saved for later and introduced alongside Ner'zhul who was mysteriously absent

No idea, all I know is that WoW lore doesn't fit in with Warcraft 1-3 lore.

And WC3 lore with WC1-2 lore too.

Anyone have the webm of the awful orc CG with the human cutting a jig in front of him?

It has some fairly heavy discrepancies.

I liked the movie though. A lot more than I thought I would.

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I just noticed there's an orc to the right of that big orc doing the same thing. They're having a jig-off.

There was originally much more blood and gore in the movie but it was cut to make it PG-13.

Thanks user, I'll save it this time

how did this even get past QA

Is it just me or does the orc's hand clip through the human's head?

The Orcs are retconning history. Soon they will outnumber us… then our culture will be lost.

Morks in warcraft 1/2 and books were savage bloodthirsty barbarians. Morks in movie - dindu nuffins, good guys and refugees.

It's similar, but they definitely changed some things.

Fun fact: that was the original plot for the movie.
There was another director before Duncan Jones who wrote a script with:
But they didn't like it and removed him. Put Jones there and he wrote the good orcs.

This is from kikepedia:

So yes, warcraft the movie was meant to be a story about good humans fighting orc invaders, but they changed that.

Fuck metzen clones and their love for orc invaders.

of course, this only refers to screentime if even that. all of the plot and dialogue is centered around the orcs. whenever an orc is on screen, they talk about orcy things and whenever no orc is on screen they talk about the orcs.

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The prophesy was true…

lol

Where is this from?

What the fuck do you think.

You retards

Any prominent examples?

summerfag go home

Threadly recount of orc lore prior to WoW

The clans of green faggots were nigging it up amongst themselves in the swampy mushroom land of Draenor, while a race of stealthy, baleen-toothed alien-looking Draenei were farming mushrooms or whatever and maybe trading with the orcs.
Then Kil'Jayden Deshaun Lequanique came to a top orc witch doctor Nerzul as a big fucking demon and told him that he has some magic roids that will make Nerzul's tribe the niggest of all, resulting in them outnigging every other tribe, unifying the clans ala Germany and going to fuck up something bigger.
Orc chiefs all pitched in, because everyone wanted to fuck up something bigger. Having taken the roids, the green tide holocoasted baleen-toothed hippies almost entirely, forcing remnants into hiding and causing butthurt that would outlive the very world of Draenor. All was well.

But then it turned out that without a new enemy to fuck up, orcs just revert back to their original ways of nigging it up among themselves. A fellow named Guldan and Kil'Tyrone devise a plan where the orcs 1.get to fuck up something big 2.get to leave the gay mushroom land for greener pasture and 3.make way for Kil Brown's demonic invasion possibly in the future maybe, don't worry about it my green friend.
Guldan and human illuminati jew Medivh conspire to open the borders of Medivh's homeland to cultural enrichment.

Through heroic rape and pillage, our noble savages stomp out the white supremacists of the Kingdom of Azeroth.
The humans manage to rescue Lothar, kill Medivh, and allow king Llane to get assassinated by Garona the half-orc rapebaby (how the fuck is she at least a teen, the invasion could not have happened longer than five years ago, and draenei are pre-retcon aliens).
Azeroth becomes a place of vibrant diversity, while survivors cross the narrow sea over to not!France of Lordaeron and start prepping for WW2.

Past BC, orcs were retconned into brown noble savages, draenei into spacelves, and roids into deceptive corruption. And baleen-teeth draenei are just spacelves corrupted by radiation. Also medivh was corrupted too. And Nerzul. And instead of eredar being pure evil that convinced The Biggest Bad of This Setting Sargeras that the universe is fucked and needs to be scrapped and remade, they are post-retcon draenei that got corrupted by Sargeras.
Who corrupted Sargeras was yet to be discovered, but that is only because Chris Metzen's creative genius was at the time occupied with self-insert fantasies.

So you think Metzen has a board in his office with a bunch of pictures of warcraft characters that he throws darts at to figure out who's gonna be corrupted next?

I think it is more of a chain reaction.
He writes a storyline of one character being corrupted, and then notices there are some uncorrupted characters interacting with them along the way. Then the gears start turning.
Sometimes he has to write to demonstrate a concept or create a situation (i.e. Mana Nuke) and chars get corrupted to justify that.

Do you ever notice at public events he loses his train of thought pretty badly and very often?

What if every time he goes to write, he forgets everything he's done,and goes "I've always wanted to write a corruption and redemption story! Let me try it out."

This never occurred to me before, but now that you mention it, it is more than likely.

And to be fair, it was always about MUH CORRUPTION in every single game, WC3 took it to the next level with Arthas and Illidan.
It was only after he went full retard that people started noticing that something was wrong, but all of WoW's nonsense was hardly unprecedented.

It sort of makes sense though since the two main antagonist primarily accomplish their tasks through corruption (sargeres/burning legion/fel demon, and the tentacles). So everythign derived from them will have this as a theme on some level.

I actually thought the movie was okay. A friend offered to pay for it and I had some time to kill so I figured eh why not give it a chance.
I went in with such low expectations it ended up being better than I thought. Still pretty bad movie though too many long drawn out scenes.
I wanted to laugh every time I saw the human king he looked so out of place and dumb, half the time his crown was lopsided.

I understand that.
I'm not even saying that these were poorly executed plot points either.
Arthas was driven by rage the whole game so while the finale did come as a huge shock, it still made sense. Illidan was only ever interested in increasing his own power and constantly kept making excuses for trying to get more of it.

It seems Blizz only knows how to write corruption stories, so when they had to get as many excuses as possible for WoW raids, that's all they had to show.

That's the first thing I noticed. Yeah it clips through his head.

Oh I wasn't disputing you or anything. As you can see : I am not entirely unconvinced metzen hasn't lost it from years of hard partying.

Right after Warcraft : Bulls and Cucks

I watched this with my normalfag gf ready to hate on it but it wasn't even that bad, still a poor man's LOTR with obvious glaring flaws but shit, it was actually watchable unlike the vast majority of game-based movies.

Ratchet and Clank was decent (not great) as well, too bad literally no one except parents of toddlers went to see it.

I think this might just be the year where they figure out how the fuck to make a video game movie.

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No user, you are the normalfags

The first two resident evil movies were decent. The doom movie was entertaining for that scene

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were they even mentioned before TBC outside of Akama? even then it seemed like nothing but "blahblahblahHONORblahblahblahAVENGE" like all the other dialogue in that game.

I haven't seen it, but no. No it doesn't.

You mean TFT? That was when Akama was introduced.

There was at least one Lost One in Blasted Lands during vanilla WoW.

I vaguely remember mud huts with lost ones in the swamp of sorrows

Postal (2007) is pretty good as well, and not just for a movie directed by Uwe Boll.

Well now I know to wait for a torrent of this.
I fucking loved warcraft like they were originally in warcraft. Basically Warhammer orcs but tiny bit more serious and with less infighting.

I thought the movie was okay. Never gave a fuck about Warcraft's lore anyways.

Don't know if I'd recommend it, though. The orcs are acting the fuck out of that CGI mocap shit, and they look great, sound great, and have the best scenes. Durotan is pure husbando material.

All the humans fucking suck. Their acting is stiff. Their stories are told in a boring and stilted way. You don't really care about any of them.

Garona looks retarded, but everyone wants to bang her, even though she's used goods. There's a romance sub-plot that goes nowhere with her.

Also the human armor looks way too generic. It had so sense of identity or style. It was like the dollar store version of fantasy armor.

If you're going to see this, catch it as a matinee and don't pay more than $5 if your theater is cool and does that.

Go for the Orcs and some cool magic stuff. Sit through the human shit.

don't bother paying anything just torrent the good copy with hardcoded chinese subs that's floating around, that's how I compromise with the gf when she wants me to pay $15+ to go see the latest piece of shit being shoved down our throats in 3D.

Also I remember commenting multiple times that it probably would have worked better had they just gone full-CG with the whole movie, the Disney art style (especially the armor) just doesn't adapt so well to live action.

sequel bait.

Also I heard that this was the new canon for War1, not that it really matters. All the major plot points occurred albeit a bit differently. My biggest gripe was not recognizing Sargeras, but remembering back to War1 and War2, Sargeras was a footnote at best.

Completely agree. Full CGI would have really made this whole thing more fitting for the source material. Larger than life battles between cartoonishly huge characters.

That game was so fucking bad

wut

thrall was only raised by humans

quads

Wow, just like the game.

Its a good movie

The problem is if you put in scope of say the Star Wars saga, this is episode 1

They should have skipped to Episode 4 where The Forsaken etc rebelled against the scourge leading up to WoW and all the interesting shit happened

In terms of the WoW story this was literally about two paragraphs into an entire novel of its history

Good movie, but they could have picked a better spot to start it

It fits in with the christmas lore

close, not bad.
but check this out!

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There was no chance I was ever going to see this, but that's just one more nail in the coffin.

Meh Warcraft lore is shit anyway.

Very core points remain consistent, in terms of characters that die, but how they die is quite different from canon. Wowhead had an entire article dedicated to differences between movie canon and game canon.

>wow.gamepedia.com/Warcraft:_Orcs_&_Humans_units
Count the number of troll units

That queen was probably the worst character in the film, she never felt like a real character. Garona felt like some kind of thing just to get audience to care about the orcs, just like Durotans fucking human eyes, neither were useful as that because the Orcs themselves were already interesting and it was great that they decided to develop a non human faction in a film.


The Wow story is an absolute joke, it would be best if they completely ignored it and just adapted Warcrafts 1 through 3 into films then skipped Wow entirely. I hope they retcon Wow completely in the case a Warcraft 4 ever comes into existence.

Durotan and Thrall also weren't in Warcraft 1 you dipshit.

she was suppose to be the product of orc raping a squidface that gul'dan mindbroke after aging her up with magics and taught her all the murder even though she should be just a little baby abomination. He's got spells that will trigger her murder tendencies. Dunno what happens but somehow her a medivh bang and create half orc half squidface half human medan who everybody hates according to people that read books. I have not watched the movie yet but I hear they turned her into half human half orc for some reason

Orcs as a whole are still assholes. They doubled up on Frostwolfs being the dindus.

Its still shit in all regards. The orcs can't be dindu but also the cause for the entire fucking game at the same time. Fucking orc lovers.

But that's post retcon.
IIRC the original plot had the Horde scout out Azeroth for years before rushing in.

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Something just feels off here.

DEY JUST TRYIN TO GIT THEIR LIFE ON TRACK

maybe the twist was that the writers themselves were corrupted all along.

everything feels off when it doesn't have any draenei porn in it

wait does Holla Forums allow porn or not?

god dammit

I think we can all agree WoW was a mistake. It fucked over the past Warcraft games and pretty much raped the lore, history, factions, faiths, races, characters, etc beyond reasoning to appease the normalfags. I'd rather just see WoW died without anymore sequels because Warcraft 4 would just be a soulless husk carrying on the evil will of WoW while pretending to be classic Warcraft.

we can only know peace when Metzen is dead

ya just need to spoiler it

Metzen is who Robert Downey Jr. would've become if he had never gotten clean. How he got here from his timeline, I'll never know.

What everyone wanted:

What everyone got:

Laughed way too hard on this.

Don't forget starcraft corruption, decorruption, then corruption again.

IT'S IN OURS CULTUREZ TO MURDA, PILLAGE, TAKE SLAVES AND RAPE

STOP DISRESPEKTAN MY CULTUREZ

As with anything Warcraft related, you can make a pretty good drinking game out of it by taking a drink any time you spot corruption or the phrase 'my people' is uttered.

WC3 lit the lore on fire. WoW just pissed on the ashes.

no.
burn it all in fel fire, this planet must be cleansed.

Wait… the human queen is a nigger? And nobody thought of mentioning that earlier in this thread? How ridiculous is that. The entire human race in Warcraft was white until WoW made it possible to create darker skin human characters, and in vanilla they were just slightly tan at first - before they added the option to make them really dark in the later expansions.

user please, its [CURRENT YEAR]

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For fucks sake

You faggots lack any self awareness

How do different species even have kids? It is not like I am trying to bring logic in a fantasy, but this always has seemed just a little too forced.

If anything orc-human babies would be just fucked up abominations that live for a week outside of the womb.

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At least I kek'd

Tulip from Preacher?

Isn't the king played buy the guy who plays Preacher too?

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WoW itself doesn't fit in with its lore

Blizzard is a mess

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