After Berkeley 2 - Strategy and Tactics

speed and mobility is much more important than forming a shieldwall and wearing plate armour as cool as that is.

Did you see antifa getting fucked up when there were two large groups colliding? no, you saw antifa getting fucked up when we were chasing them down.

And then what happens when you get caught on your own? if you're wearing tonnes of gear, you have to either take a beating and get caught in the middle of an antifa crowd or drop $100 or so worth of gear

I have been literally preparing 2 years now for combat such as this. Both running and weight lifting.

Part of the offshoot of ironpill and the subsequent "super natty" group of people that insults people on /fit/ these days

Always have two or three guys go up to someone with a weapon. The point is to disarm them. If someone is dragged away everyone push to get them back.

None of you faggots go outside though.

Here's an idea for a weapon. Chinks use them for riot control, very effective. The poles can disguised as banners.

OFFENSE
1. Bic lighter in your palm actually makes your wrist surprisingly strong. Try that shit.

2. Grab some keys between your fingers and make a fist. Obviously, ones you don't care about losing.

PROTECTION
Minimum:
Helmet
Strong eye protection

Recommended:
Mouthguard
Stab vest

TACTICS

Our weaknesses
Intentional or not, one of our weaknesses from Berkeley was allowing ourselves to be distracted by people talking to us as a distraction, while some chickenshit cheapshots us with a bike lock.

Do not talk to Antifa under any circumstances. Imagine trying to talk to a riot cop. Of course they won't fucking talk back. This is for a good reason - so you can't be distracted. Be aware of what's going on around you ALWAYS.

Shields are fine. More shields are even better. Each shield wearer needs a backup guy with a long stick (e.g. flag pole). Use the pole to reach over and smash the faces of anyone trying to take shields.

TACTICS

Unmasking Antifa think their strength is in their anonymity. Take their fucking masks off whenever you can. The police did this at Auburn, and Antifa ran away like rats.

Be extra careful around well-disguised Antifa. These will be the ones who will try some some nasty shit.>>9750647

Fucking retarded roleplayer.

People aren't going to band together with shields. Even the most organised groups in Europe with their riot shields fail to form.

You don't have a fucking arm braced shield for combat like this. You don't have a fucking spear you retard.

Centre grip is simply far superior and gives mobility, doesn't trap your arm and can be used as a weapon if need be. This is basic fucking military history. God damn it.

What about paint?

If you spray paint or throw paint bombs then the stained patterns will be uniquely identifiable.

>>>/k/

If it's for identification, what will putting a bit of paint on a masked, completely black clothed person achieve? Unmasking on video/photos would achieve much better identification.

If too many people carry paint, or throw it around too much, it could also undo any good that it would serve for identification.

Feminist retard confirmed.

Here's a few important things from a semi 1.May veteran from germany.

DONT GET THE POLICE AGAINST YOU!
They got the good stuff, use them to your advantage, dont escalate things so big, the police doesn't know which side is "the bad one".
If a brawl starts, make sure you are on the police side when it starts, let officers walk in between you. As soon as you see a brawl and police is closing in, play the victim not the hero. Make sure the police is against THEM not YOU!

"Tag" the opposition with paintballs and such. Not to mark them as targets, but to make them feel as one (they will retreat once they think "they're next").

If you got appropriate clothing use irritating agents (CS-Gas is very obvious, theres itching powder which is really fucking nasty if you inhale it or get it in your eyes. Have a pack in your pocket, rip it open and just smear it in their face, then drop the packaging. It will take a few seconds but it keeps them out for the rest of the day.)

If you are going with a group of friends / likeminded, choose one who stays back as "support", he's have to got: Olive oil, Water, some candybars, paper wipes,rubbing alcohol and some basic medkit. He's allways at a set location NOT MOVING AROUND, if he has to move, update everyone on where he is ! Hes the guy to clear you of CS gas. First use the Oil to rub clear off the CS residue, then wipe with rubbing alcohol and lastly use the water. Once you are cleared, wait atleast 5 min before you go back, to make sure you dont get an allergic reaction.

Those guys in the very front, ALLWAYS try to demask them, at best they retreat back, at worst you gain 2-3 sec because they will pull their mask back up again. Also, what many antifa dont get, if they wear a scarf you can just easily pull them down on that. Grab it, take a step back and then pull towards you, they will stumble and maybe fall, if they are retarded they will choke a little.

If you see some douche with a stick just bashing over the top of his faggy "comrades", GRAB THAT STICK AND TAKE IT FROM THEM! They don't have a strong grip if they overhand it, grab it, pull it towards you.(providing you wear gear to not get injured by it).

If you REAALLLY want your "shield wall" get the biggest and widest star sprankled banner you can find and do as pic related. This will keep people from Sprinting ahead and ultimately keep your formation in check. (It won't survive first contact but in addition, if they tear down your beloved flag you might get some nice Photo's for PsyOp.

KYS shill.
For those wondering what it does. Make a Fist ( THUMB OUT!!) and squeeze the fingers really tight. You will see that your ring and little finger are further "rolled" in than your ring finger. If you punch like this you got some risk of breaking the "Ossa metacarpalia" (why dont you have a word for this in english?) that sucks and takes ~1 month to recover from (had it 3 times).
If you tightly grab somethign the size of a bic lighter (kubotans are made for this) it will distribute the force of impact along all fingers thus decreasing the risk of breaking the one that gets the most initial pressure.

Just try it ffs. Make a fist with your right hand, use your left hand and push against the fingers (one by one and then all at once). then do it again with a lighter in your fist.

If you absolutely dont want to break your hand in a brawl, use your palms.
Open your hand, and stretch it back, (like a hadouken then shove your palm into their face, its not as pleasant as hitting someone in the face with a fist, but you cant break your fingers. (Read about krav magan, thats how it's done.)

Reminder that the hotpockets here are actively against you winning against antifa.

Well, fuck. If someone wants to /would copy these
to .pl if a thread for it comes up, i'td be grateful. I can't get online much and don't know when I can post again.

This.

BASIC FIGHTING

1. Maintain distance
2. Strike quickly, then move back
3. Don't damage your hands
4. Don't get ahead of the line, you'll get surrounded.

Learn how to do palm strikes against a punching bag. I didn't have good flexibility at first, so for a while it fucking hurt and I was hitting like a bitch. Do not underestimate the effectiveness of a full force slap to the jaw or ear.

If you insist on punching, wear protection (bic lighter/palm strikes/protective gloves). DO NOT punch people in the head like the guy who hit Moldylocks, you'll just break your fucking hand. Aim for the nose, jaw or just under the ear.

When the shit goes down, don't forget to KEEP YOUR GUARD UP. Practice that shit, because it gets tiring.

Unless you're very good at boxing, don't do any fancy shit. Keep it simple and stay in groups. Don't get caught out.

Never tried the key in fist thing but multiple sources tell me it's shit. Apparently there is a tendency to damage yourself more than your opponent. Two good things you can do with your keys are to put them on a lanyard and use them in a whipping motion or to take an individual key and hold it between your thumb and forefinger and use it as a claw.

Agreed. Ranged weapons are critical but failing that, malay weapons are bare minimum necessary. In malay combat, having a greater reach over your opponent is often key in injuring them. Holding car keys in your hand is a last, desperate move.

Use water, but yell at antifa as you throw them that they are full of piss to demoralize them further.
Oh wait, they might be into that.
Delete this idea.

Are you retarded? Did you even think about your criticism? Shielding your head from a thrown bottle as a reflexive action isn't going to blind you for more then a half second. Also, it spends their ammo on a useless gesture that ultimately mars the flag which will provoke sympathy from neutral bystanders and those viewing pictures after the incident.

Ah, but what of melee attacks? Do you seriously think that antifa is going to be hurling missiles into their own front line of troops? They wouldn't, so you're retarded. And if they did, that's a win for us because any miss on their part would be demoralizing as antifa get nailed in the back of the head by rocks and bottles.

Fucking Christ, dude. Use your head a little before opening your mouth.

That's more difficult than you think. They would need to use both hands to grip the shield to attempt to rip it from you. If you're using the single arm shield design, you have a hand free to tear off their mask or punch them with. Also, you can twist your body and pull your arm back and they have to contend with your body weight and arm strength vs. their own grip strength. Not saying you'll always win that, but it's not easy to tear a shield out of someone's hand, and in order to attempt it, you need to drop all your defenses to attempt it.

If it's the 2 handed shield design, you have greater leverage because both your hands are occupied with the shield. They still have to contend with your weight vs. their grip strength, and it becomes easier for you to twist and shove, throwing them off balance or breaking their grip.

Thanks for the info dump, user. That shit's totally rad.

And how does it look when hordes of people are chasing down antifa to give them some Savage beats? Great to us, horrifying to the neutral normies who see the pictures and video from the event later.

The shield wall is designed to function as a long game pr tactic. How do you think people attacking a wall of American flags is going to look?

The designs aren't for offense, dummy. They're shields. A center grip means your using arm strength alone to stabilize the shield, off center grip allows shoulder support. Also, a center grip can be used as a bashing weapon, the design of all of this is to prevent anons from being charged with assault if things go way out of control and (((the authorities))) play the "shut it down" card against the free speech side.

The goal of a shield wall isn't to bash the enemy into submission, but to hold the line and weather their strongest attack, making it ineffective and destroying their morale in the process.

As for not getting enough people to go in on this, all you need is 3 people and you've got an imposing shield wall that others will rally around. You don't need much, especially when the goal is to just create a symbol.

ANTIFA INTEL
I have recovered intel on ANTIFA
These are some things you can expect.

This is recovered from their twitter:
twitter.com/BevHillsAntifa/with_replies
Please spread this tweet:
THIS IS A FIRECRACKER THROWER
twitter.com/BevHillsAntifa/status/854615155220430848

See padlock and chain. This is from Auburn fight

See credit card knife? Communist youth knife?
IMO the antifa beverly hills website smells of alphabet soup.

Antifa getting heavier masks.

twitter.com/BevHillsAntifa/with_replies

>twitter.com/BevHillsAntifa/status/854615155220430848

Seriously nigger? Why is this so easy?

archive.is/1g11W

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More than anything, antifa hates to be
Seems like the best tactic would be to set up anons on rooftops with cameras in order to map out
and to generally document crimes. Imagine the hivemind disseminating aerial views of riots and analyzing their organizational structure.
RIGHT WING DOCUMENTATION SQUADS

Theres three things we had that antifa hadn't. Guts, strength, and past shared glory. We can helmet up and armor ourselves, but we need little else. Everyone trying to use harebrained schemes is probably a shill. Smells like highschool and TOTSE's Bad Ideas forum all over again.

Antifa and its allies like BLM are known arsonists.

Since we are the good guys we need to put fires out. They will try to set aflame the police and protests as well as vehicles. The last large protests saw the garbage bins set on fire.

Some pro-trump/free speech people should be prepared with fire extinguishers or fire blankets to prevent our allies from being burned alive. I do not know what sort of fire extinguisher works best against gasoline bombs, nor am I a fire fighter, but we cannot sit by while our people could be burned alive for trying to assemble peacefully.

Bump locked so save what you can.

I was thinking we could use a leafblower to blow the smoke and smoke grenades back towards their crowd while it's on the ground.

>>>/k/
fags.