Far-Right Ideology Exploring

Does anyone else here keep trying to dive into other ideologies in a vain attempt to find a new ideology that isn't National Socialism to adopt and espouse?

I've tried Monarchism, Libertarianism, Anarchoprimitivism, Fascism, and various other special snow-flake far-right ideologies.

Every single time, there is usually lots of good and correct stuff in the ideology, but then there's always some major failings you eventually encounter; failings that are properly addressed by National Socialism.

Basically these are the failings of each far-right ideology:

1. National Socialism - Stigmatized / Demonized by ZOG propaganda to the point you can get fired, shouted down, humiliated, and attacked for openly admitting you are NatSoc. Otherwise a perfect ideology with absolutely nothing wrong about it and a proven track record of being able to perform extremely well even against incredible odds (Axis was only 3 countries that took on the whole fucking world and nearly won).
2. Monarchism - a great ideology, many strong points in favour of it which you can learn about by listening to youtube.com/watch?v=AhoYbdVMg9M, but right now every European royal lineage has been poisoned with kike blood and racemixing and we'd have to create a whole new royalty to make this ideology work for us. Its biggest failing is that the jews will send their most seductive jewesses to the monarch and eventually infect the lineage with their kikery or they'll just assassinate them or they will become the personal instructor/teacher for the royal kids and bluepill them. Even the "arab" royal family in the UAE are actually just kikes that rule over the arabs btw. Ultimately this ideology is not the spiritual and political powerhouse that is National Socialism.
3. Libertaranism - it's nothing but a "gateway drug" to National Socialism. They're right about many things (strawmans aside) but where they are wrong, NatSoc fills in. At some point every lolberg has to eventually just realize that what they really want is National Socialism not Libertarianism. Lolbergs also universally want to close the borders and genocide the shitskins if you talk to them in person, but somehow the party leaders for any lolberg party that actually set the policy always end up being in favor of open borders.

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4. Fascism - poorly defined, nobody actually knows "just what the fuck is fascism", it lacks the depth of National Socialism. The various fascist movements aren't much to talk about. Yeah you can talk about Mosley and Evola and so on without the normies knowing what the fuck you're going on about and thus avoid the conditioned reactions. Every fascist movement is unique also, each one is different for the different times, different countries, different people and circumstances. Fascism and National Socialism is like holier than thou cryptic occult babble vs straight-forward greenpills that get right to the point; Fascism is just a way of obscuring the truth of National Socialism. Fascism is also too much of a blank slate, an open canvas, upon which anyone projects all kinds of random shit. Depending on who you ask, everything and anything is "fascist".
5. Anarchoprimitivism - a great ideology but with two very obvious and big shortcomings. These are: the Earth will die one day and unless we go to space and learn to terraform other worlds life all this life will be destroyed. So while industrialization and so on destroys so many species and does a great harm to the environment, in the long-run, if it means we can get off this planet it's justified. If of course we piss away all our progress on "ignore space, feed niggers instead" then this nightmare of environmental destruction will definitely not have been justified. Also as idealic as the tribal anarchoprim life may be, when you're burdened by basic survival tasks every single day, happy though you might be it will be difficult for you to attain higher knowledge and contemplate the deepest philosophies; this you can only do in a stable world where you are fed and have the time to go through books and so on all your life while the mundanes go about their business. Finally, anarchoprimitivists will always get BTFO by literally any other groups who use technology, they can't defend themselves against the might of industrial societies.
6. Confederacy - Enslaving niggers was never a good idea. Although niggers deserve to be enslaved, it basically meant they were housed, fed, provided with mates and unlimited niglet children, and that they were very happy negroes indeed. Yes, it's fun to tell the truth about slavery and so on, and to upset bluepilled retards. However we should oppose slavery of niggers; not on humanist or egalitarian grounds but because we can pick our own fucking cotton and don't need them in the country. All the niggers need to go to Liberia. The confederates have this love-hate relationship with niggers that is ultimately very perverse; separation is the way to go. Niggers will be happier under white rule but it must not be our burden to take care of them. They are just dumb animals. At least the Arabs would sterilize their nigger slaves and as soon as they got too old or broken to be used any longer would be euthanised. Slavery in the 1700s isn't that different from the more efficient system of wageslavery and welfare we have today that is meant to keep the niggers in line (as much as that can be done at all).
7. Zionism - sometimes it's easy to think the jews want what we want, to think a Greater Israel in the Middle East would be great, and exterminating mudslimes would be wonderful. Sometimes the jew seems like your friend and ally. Yet he never is. He'll have us go and fight and die in the Middle East fighting sandniggers while importing them by the millions into our home countries. He'll always fucking backstab us. Zionism can only work in theory; in actuality it can't work at all because of the nature of the Jew. You might think "I'm a nationalist for all races, the jews deserve a homeland like everyone else". It doesn't work like that you naive fool. Anyone who is exposed to the jews too much will eventually realize there is only one real solution to them; extermination. Whenever they have power at all they use the goyim to help them while backstabbing those same goyim that help them at the same time. I'm not going to a cuck for jews so I will never be a zionist; the enemy of my enemy is not my friend when said enemy is the fucking jews.
8. Islamism - A nationalistic pro-white version of Islam could be created but it would inevitably create cultural ties between us and many mudshit sandnigger countries. This inevitably would result in more and more people learning arabic, having contact with sandniggers, and mixing with them. Whatever version of Islam we might propose would soon be subverted into the standard sandnigger Islam that would undermine us. As great as it is in motivating people to be warriors ready to sacrifice themselves in conflict unlike the meek and useless christcucks, it's still a non-white religion and doesn't belong to us. Sharia law could fix many things; but National Socialism would fix everything.

At the end of the day all I really want and ever will want is National Socialism. I keep trying to find another ideology but it's all just watered down shit in the end of the day. There are only two true ideologies in this world; Communism and National Socialism. These two extremes are then found in many different special snowflake variations but anyone who studies politics long enough will realize one day that what they really are in their heart of hearts, is one of these two ideologies. You're either some degenerate nation-wrecker communist or you're a National Socialist. Everything else simply represents different degrees of confusion as people try to think things out and arrive at the ideological purity of Communism or NatSoc. Everyone is either a communist hiding behind various other ideologies or a NatSoc hiding behind various ideologies. A lot of times these two extremes hide behind the same ideology, e.g. many cuckservatives who are truly communists at heart, and many conservatives who are actually NatSocs but not ready to reveal their full power level.

What is true shall stand. What is false will melt away. By this means the labels mean little.
National socialism is simply the most true of the lot.

That's problem, how? Seemed to have worked will with every ascendant dynasty or Chinese Emperor.

Don't you dare shit on Evola you absolute niggerfaggot

Are you suggesting by this a superior ideology will take form later? If so; what faults can you find in National Socialism? I can not find ANY real faults in the ideology. National Socialism is, at its core, the ideology of the generate who wishes to strengthen his people and advance their interests in every way while retaining the purity and identity of said people. Communism, at its core, is the ideology of the degenerates who has become frustrated, jaded, etc. with life but instead of turning that anger towards productive ends they have decided to make virtues out of vices and ruin fucking everything by denying the objective truths of beauty, intelligence, etc. and just making a big fucking mess of the world. Communists are what happens when instead of fighting the evil, you decide to embrace it.

Well you see the problem is; National Socialism would be required to make it happen. National Socialism would lead to a Monarchy. At the present there is no monarchy we can rally behind. The other thing is Monarchy is organic; it just happens naturally. You don't really have a monarchy going until you have some successful dictator / leader who then has a family and begins a dynasty. Trudeus are a kind of monarchy as are bushes and these other families that control Canada and America. They are utterly shit though. Of course, monarchy can only really function properly if it's Absolute Monarchy and not some cucked shit.


I'm not? Evola is more of a philosopher than a politician.

I think you're right OP but NS is missing a lot of the machinery of traditionalism that eg trad Catholicism had. Also, the part where it's against social class is crazy.

Now of course real full-depth NS has traditionalism and class. The SS and the party for example were going to be a new true aristocracy. But NS inherently existed as a transitional form and a lot of the details haven't been worked out. I suspect it ends up looking a lot like traditional European aristocratic monarchy with a different religion once it settles down.

Also, historical NS was still polluted with modernism and chaotic politics. It wasn't pure strain.

Carlyle is a good read to supplement NS.

I have a preference for Monarchism or National Socialism

I think monarchism is not preferable unless we can get a good monarch and guarantee a good monarch into the future.

You must first have an ethnostate to fight to preserve. It is not a 'founder' ideology as needed in the Americas. Even in the most ethnically homogeneous regions you will find at least two main nations of origin, meaning two sets of traditions at least. Two sets of values. Two slightly differebt ways of saying similar things.

It may work, should we get a solar flare that wipes all electronics. That way it may be up to a generation of natural selection, everyone has to look to their neighbours, leftist thought processes get purged toot sweet. Then and only then would we as a nation have a shared experience as a foundation to build from.
Right now we're too splintered to have nice things.

one problem with National Socialism user (aside form the original NSGWP. obviously) . Whenever there is a public and vocal NatSoc group its always run by Kikes.

Usually yes, but not always

if it ain't broke don't fix it

That's why need annual Night of Long knives to sift out the undesirables.

I am skeptical. Even leaders today promoting "white nationalism" are often compromised in some fashion and if you want to obtain political power regardless of the system you must have a ideal and a leader to embody these ideals who acts as an executor. Uniting an army to fight for the Reincarnation of Hitler or for Alexander the Great is essential and with so many indentured to Modernity and so many vices to indulge to see such a leader manifest would be miraculous. Too many avenues for a leader to be blackmailed. More importantly many would be skeptical of any Messiah if one where to manifest.

The problem with Monarchy is make self evident with how fast Monarchs where subverted by Liberalism. One thing Fascism understood was that the old Monarchs (born from Divine Right) where impossible to simply restore. This is why many look to Futurism.

you also make a good point, Idealism is inherently Metaphysical and can never truly manifest.

Sarah is such a QT3.14

You forget transhumanism

technojewry, no thankyou.

She’d be cuter without dyke hair.

GET THE FUCK OUT, KIKE.
The ideas of ‘singularity’ and ‘transhumanism’ are inherently Jewish in origin, intended to destroy European culture and ethnicity. Ray Kurzweil (Jew) and Isaac Asimov (Jew) are the largest proponents behind the ideas. The first step was the destruction of Christianity and the replacement of it with moral and cultural relativism. The nest step was the destruction of marriage by making divorce acceptable. The third step was the destruction of sexuality by introducing legalized homosexuality. The fourth step is the destruction of gender by making transgenderism the norm. The final step will be to destroy the very fabric that makes us human by introducing the ideas of “transhumanism” and “singularity.”

A disproportionate number of jews are leaders in transhumanism, as also in these other utopian ideals.

There is precedent for strivings toward an early Messianic era, with overtones of transhumanism. Socialists–and particularly the idealists of the 19th century–looked forward to the hell-and-heaven of a secular End of Days, with science and technology as guides. Theodor Herzl (Jew) likewise offered a technophilic and universalistic solution to the age-old problem of anti-Semitic persecution
– H+ Magazine

Transhumanism is an occult project, rooted in Rosicrucianism and Freemasonry and derived from the Kabbalah, which asserts that humanity is evolving intellectually, towards a point in time when man will became god. Modeled on the medieval legend of the Golem and Frankenstein, they believe man will be able to create life itself in the farm of living machines, or artificial intelligence.

Through the use of “smart drugs” and what transhumanists call “mind uploading”, man will be able to merge with the Internet, which is envisioned as the end-point of Kabbalistic evolution–the formation of a collective consciousness, or global brain. That awaited moment is what Ray Kurzweil refers to as the “singularly.” By accumulating the total of human knowledge, and providing access to every aspect of human activity, the Internet will supposedly achieve omniscience, becoming the “god” of occultism.
– David Livingstone, Transhumanism: The History of a Dangerous Idea

Mordechai Nessayahu’s “Cosmotism”depicts a future in which Israel saves humanity from eco-disasters and nuclear annihilation. Also influential as a Labor Party stalwart, Nessayahu motivated Yitzak Rabin and Shimon Peres to pursue the Oslo Accords peace plan. Peres published his own visions in A New Beginning. He imagines an improved Israel via peace and an information revolution. Equally optimistic is Yigal Arica’s What’s in the Future? Niv Ahituv’s A World Without Secrets presents a totally transparent world where all information about everyone is available to everyone. It is the 21st century evolution of the ancient ideas of Marxism.
– Hank Pellisser

Ray Kurzweil
Isaac Asimov
Charles Stross
Stanislaw Lem
Marvin Minsky
Ben Gietsel
Eliezer Shlomo
Tsvi Bisk
David Deutsch

A lot of the economic stuff, like labor-based currency doesn't make any sense.

People already exchange paper notes backed by precious materials/goods/nothing at all for labor, why not cut the middle man out entirely?

Fuck, meant to link to

I'm drawn toward monarchism because I don't think we're going to restore our nations to the proper form of divine fascist ethnostates without the emergence of figures at that measure of existence. However, I also don't think there's any reason to pursue monarchism unless you can point to someone who is asking to be a king and deserves it. Asides from that, I haven't really found a better answer than National Socialism except for variations and aspects such as the theosophical aryanism perspective, volkisch movement theories, etc. The point is that all of those things have NS as their nexus anyway, so NS as a name covers quite a lot even beyond the variable definitions given by the members of the Third Reich itself. At the same time, the tenets of the NS which existed in Germany were determined by the German folk and thus took on its specific form. In fact, I think the ultimate problem with using National Socialism directly as a title is that it is so inseparable from Hitler's saga.

Monarchism by itself really only tells you one thing about a political ideology, it involves a king. I'd say my political ideology is ethnofascist feudalism, implying a clan/land based aristocracy and the potential for a monarch alongside National Socialism with alterations based on folk culture with an emphasis on the revival of folk religion.

Sometimes I think they were mind-fucked to be that way by (((them))) as revenge for making The Matrix, which made a lot of people skeptical to the system.

Go play in an air raid.

I doubt it. this was the producer of that movie. (pic related)

Yes obviously Monarchy would be Ideal. However, monarchy is not secular so you immediately run into the issue of Authority. Unless you have some theocratic figurehead to anoint them King and have the people accept this anointment then anyone could potentially theoretically proclaim themselves "king". This inherently invites conflict, and in reality everyone wants to be king which is why democracy was seductive tool in undermining the institution. At least with Mussolini's Fascism and National Socialism there was in-part a recognition that these positions must be taken and up-held through force. Which Mussolini's Fascism the idea was in time this would lead to a reestablishment of a new "old order" once there was secure regime change.

Transhumanism is fundamentally the most Jewish of all ideologies.

People view NatSoc primarily as the struggle against communism, I think this was true in the 30s and 40s.
I think the fundamental polar opposite of NatSoc in modern times is transhumanism, and this techno-judaism is so fundamentally anti-nature, anti-natural law, and multicultural in its core nature that transhumanism has emerged as the true future of Jewish modernity.

You mean cutting out parts of your body and applying mechnical parts and integrating computers in?

…or do you mean killing yourself and replacing yourself with a robot that behaves like it has awareness but doesn't actually, a true philosophical zombie?

Transhumanism is foolish. It is based on the lies of materialism. Idealism is the correct philosophy.

Oh really? …but they caused an economic miracle, turning Germany around from economic collapse to being an economic powerhouse. I have never paid attention to the details too much but it worked out in practice, I can see that much as having happened.

DubTrips of Divine Truth!

There's a bit beyond just politics which is immutable intertwined with politics. Consider larpy-but-kinda-true pic related

Labor based economics is the only kind of currency that makes sense.

………no

New Wave American Patriotism / Populism

Ideology is less important than demographics, and shouldn't be all that rigid. Different ideologies make sense at different times–libertarianism (of the Hoppe/early America variety, not the Jewish open borders version) is probably ideal on the frontier, but in a place that's already been settled for millennia it doesn't make much sense.
National Socialism has never really been tried. I get why Holla Forums finds it appealing, but the fact is that one country doing it for ten years, all of which were during wartime or with war very obviously on the horizon, is not enough to render judgment. We have never seen how such a government would handle peace, how transitions of power would play out, or the long-term effects of its economic policy. We've never even seen what it would look like under a leader who isn't Hitler.

I was too, once. But there is nothing but the struggle. You cannot run from it. Once you start running, you'll never stop. Better to stand and fight, and fall, than to run forever.

Fear is the mind-killer, the little defeat that brings total obliteration. You must face your fear.

COME HOME WHITE MAN

I found National Socialism's biggest flaw : it's (You), retard.

Stopped reading here. You lack the philosophical understanding and intelligence to analyze these ideologies properly and critique them in an insightful and legible fashion. I'm not going to waste any time critiquing your post properly as that would be a waste of time.

Learn some more philosophy and come back later.

Absolutes. We live in absolute. We need an absolute ideology. Drifting in the sands of time we lose ourselves and our purpose. Seig heil! Victory will come. Be patient. We were all born to die but our time will yet come. We are bound here by kin and blood and the smugness and kek. But our time to unite as a force for good will come soon enough. Trust no one. Trust only yourself. The strength of the will extends as a tree branch from the root. We are bound together in ideology. As we age and unite together our purpose will come together.

We strongly encourage you to crawl out of your own ass and get a job.

This. Don't be a Holla Forums-tier faggot who sees ideologies the same way Tumblr sees sex and has or makes up a new one every day/week/month whatever.
National Socialism is the truth, it is living in the act of embracing truth and placing truth above all else. Why the fuck would you want anything else - anything else would be a lie and living a lie makes you a worm.

I went down this road and tried to make 'eco-fascism' a thing. It's not the truth, only National Socialism is. It should be called Natural Socialism.

Mate you just /thread yourself.

I've read plenty of philosophy and I don't think he's wrong. Everything in between the two is merely a product of how many concessions have been made to World Communism aka kikes.

Three, not two.
Communism, Capitalism, and National Socialism.
The first two being an illusion as they're both structured as to be controlled by Jews.

Robo-Automated Confederacy with an Overman Ideology. That should get you into space and make for a healthier upbringing on the farm with your dad as the mechanic.

Socialism is leftist you fucking retard
Nat-Soc has both left and right parts to it

That said no system will ever be perfect, ideology itself is fucked

rude tbh

I heard of a book called "Mussolini's Intellectuals" written by (or from the writings of) the original Italian Fascist's were you can learn what Fascism was originally supposed to mean.

Also I heard of a paper written by George Orwell on how Fascism doesn't mean anything.

Your failures in monarchy are bad arguments. There is no reason a king would be jewed because its against his self interests. He is already ruler of the land, why would he let a jew rule over him? Even if a jewess was able to marry the king, the woman's side of the family will have no say in how the next king will run the country, that is all up to the kings and his family as the princesses family will always be lower in stature.

I have read far more philosophy than I have politics.

There can only be two true ideologies.

Globalism vs Nationalism
Mongrelization vs Purity
Degeneration vs Generation
Jews vs Aryans
Vice vs Virtue

Anything that mixes shit up is just confusion. One day the evil must be separated from the good.

Are you new here idiot?
implying you are not a kike

monarchies aren't perfect due to your ruler being a genetic gamble in the case of dynastic monarchies, possible corruption in the possibly foreign clergy in the case of theocratic monarchy, and easy subversion in the case of elective monarchy.
NatSoc implies meritocracy, and adherence to Nature. It provides for a good succession simply because of the meritocratic worldview, and because the electorate aristocracy was chosen as the most fanatical for this worldview. At least, that was how it was set up in the German system.

All ideology is BS. It's just a drug for young idealistic minds. However it can be medicine for a diseased country. The US badly needs a dose of nationalism and antisemitism. That doesn't mean we can reach a Nazi utopia.

People here bash Ayn Rand but she had the right medicine for the disease of her times. Intellectuals were going communist.

By the way, while we're solving the problem of Jews, globalism, boomers, corporatism, etc. - we're creating the next wave of problems. We just don't know what it's called yet.

THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF A NEW COMMUNIST OFFENSIVE

THEY GOT THEIR NEW SHILL SCRIPT

AND THEY ARE MOBILIZING FOR PHYSICAL CONFRONTATIONS ALL OVER THE SOUTH

ASSUME BATTLE STATIONS

itsgoingdown.org/join-and-support-the-mobilization-in-pikeville-kentucky/

SOUND THE KLAXONS
THIS IS NOT A DRILL

DESECRATION OF CIVIL WAR TOMBS AND GRAVES TO BE PERFORMED BY ANTIFA

Well, that could be attributed to several things. Just on the top of my head:

1 - economic rebound/reconstruction from the devastated interwar economy.
2 - very low economic freedom: in the very early stages, the nazis started centralizing the economy and directing/dictating what business and companies would have to do. This may sound well and good to fix the pozzed interwar cultural scene was, but it eventually led to shortages (something that naturally occurs in centrally planned economies).
3 - workers HAD to work: striking was illegal and people usually worked ungodly long shifts; also, artisans and some kinds of office workers had their labour redirected to whatever was needed. The last part was specially true during the total war economy, but even before the war some people were obliged to work outside their own field of expertise "for the Fatherland".
4 - newly acquired wealth from persecuted groups (jews specially): it's no surprise jews controlled larges swathes of the German economy during the interwar period as well as were considerably more well-off than the average German citizen. That contributed a lot to the initial boom to the economy after the Nuremberg Laws were passed.
5 - Anschluß: adding Austria to Germany, as well as Czechoslovakia (Sudetenland, etc) and Poland also contributed to the re-invigoration to the economy. Resources were redirected from the new states / colonies to the appropriate places (public projects, housing, industry, etc) via taxes or whatever resources there were.

It's also good to keep in mind that Germany has always been a powerhouse of many things since its unification in 1871: economic prosperity, scientific research, philosophy . . .Even back when it was divided in East and West Germany it was a force to be reckoned with and even today it's the "leader" of the EU. Unfortunately, it's severely pozzed nowadays.

you forgot left-wing master, if you ever oomit that is not a coincidence, you are a filthy kike and a made in america rope is the next tie you should wear

Can you give some reasoning behind this?

Do you even the All?

Pagans want voting, Christians want hereditary rule. Pagans aren't strong enough to hold onto areas in cold weather and lose it to Christians or, if you're really unlucky, Mozzies.

Christians who don't have their head up their behinds are already advocating monarchy and hereditary systems.

...

What do you guys think of Odinism?

THEY BETTER NOT

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me the follower of German Idealism

It's good to see somebody else say something positive about Sharia Law here.
youtu.be/zMwcX_vU1lM?t=260

Adolf Hitler himself had some good things to say about Islam. There's bad shit but there's a lot of good in it too.

FUCK EVERYONE WHO ISN'T A NATIONAL SOCIALIST

pmt

Fuck you, mods. Post is back now.

The ideas of ‘singularity’ and ‘transhumanism’ are inherently Jewish in origin, intended to destroy European culture and ethnicity. Ray Kurzweil (Jew) and Isaac Asimov (Jew) are the largest proponents behind the ideas. The first step was the destruction of Christianity and the replacement of it with moral and cultural relativism. The nest step was the destruction of marriage by making divorce acceptable. The third step was the destruction of sexuality by introducing legalized homosexuality. The fourth step is the destruction of gender by making transgenderism the norm. The final step will be to destroy the very fabric that makes us human by introducing the ideas of “transhumanism” and “singularity.”

A disproportionate number of jews are leaders in transhumanism, as also in these other utopian ideals.

There is precedent for strivings toward an early Messianic era, with overtones of transhumanism. Socialists–and particularly the idealists of the 19th century–looked forward to the hell-and-heaven of a secular End of Days, with science and technology as guides. Theodor Herzl (Jew) likewise offered a technophilic and universalistic solution to the age-old problem of anti-Semitic persecution
– H+ Magazine

Transhumanism is an occult project, rooted in Rosicrucianism and Freemasonry and derived from the Kabbalah, which asserts that humanity is evolving intellectually, towards a point in time when man will became god. Modeled on the medieval legend of the Golem and Frankenstein, they believe man will be able to create life itself in the farm of living machines, or artificial intelligence.

Through the use of “smart drugs” and what transhumanists call “mind uploading”, man will be able to merge with the Internet, which is envisioned as the end-point of Kabbalistic evolution–the formation of a collective consciousness, or global brain. That awaited moment is what Ray Kurzweil refers to as the “singularly.” By accumulating the total of human knowledge, and providing access to every aspect of human activity, the Internet will supposedly achieve omniscience, becoming the “god” of occultism.
– David Livingstone, Transhumanism: The History of a Dangerous Idea

Mordechai Nessayahu’s “Cosmotism”depicts a future in which Israel saves humanity from eco-disasters and nuclear annihilation. Also influential as a Labor Party stalwart, Nessayahu motivated Yitzak Rabin and Shimon Peres to pursue the Oslo Accords peace plan. Peres published his own visions in A New Beginning. He imagines an improved Israel via peace and an information revolution. Equally optimistic is Yigal Arica’s What’s in the Future? Niv Ahituv’s A World Without Secrets presents a totally transparent world where all information about everyone is available to everyone. It is the 21st century evolution of the ancient ideas of Marxism.
– Hank Pellisser

Ray Kurzweil
Isaac Asimov
Charles Stross
Stanislaw Lem
Marvin Minsky
Ben Gietsel
Eliezer Shlomo
Tsvi Bisk
David Deutsch

What does Transhumanism have to do with Rosicrucianism? I don't think any technology based transformation of humans has anything to do with Rosicrucianism.

consider kike mythology and is their any reason you think why jews would either be atheists or afraid to meet their maker?

some transhumanist stuff is nonsense according to current physics theories
some scientific group claims to have discovered the essence of the soul in living creatures in the form of quantum information
the collective consciousness has its origins in semitic myth but its not a semitic reality
you cant call commonalities in human personality and behaviour 'collective consciousness' when its usually just instinct

being afraid or hating it because of the jews that revel in the idea of it doesnt make the prospect of humans becoming cyborgs or biologically immortal using nanotechnology

The ecologists never answer my questions, never debate and just endlessly spout their special snowflake "political" soup. I am not even sure if it's not just a parody made by some rich bored guy who created a lot of bots to spam the same shit in loop. They don't sound human.

I tried communism.
They kicked me out shortly after I asked why anyone would produce anything.

I am trying anarchism.
Thanks God another one before me told them women don't have a penis. Still, I don't see them talking about anarchism and I hope they won't ban me now that I give them basic lessons of economy.

ecologists?
I dont see what restorative conservation strategies have to do with politics tbh

They have a political party so I went to their forums.

Don't be fooled, they are closet commies.

hippies usually are
give someone enough lsd and you can make them believe anything
proper ecology is very practical and is akin to triage instead of Noahs Ark
proper ecologists are considering ways to create island refuges for species deemed significant enough to the ecosystem to warrant saving
they're also planning on using some island nations as ecological arks by moving endangered species from other countries there to fill empty ecological niches like the moving the endangered Iberian Lynx from Iberia, Spain to replace the extinct British Lynx in Britain where the Iberian Lynx will have no natural predators and an abundance of prey in the out of control rabbit population in Britain thanks to the extinction of the British Wolf and Lynx and dwindling badger and fox populations

They say LSD can't harm you at all.

…but it leads you away from the truth and from critical thought.

It makes you believe any random bullshit.

That is a great harm.

Next time some druggy faggot tells me LSD can't do anything bad to you, I'll tell him it can make you believe any stupid shit, and that in itself is why you should never do it.

too much of Holla Forums will never understand why they will never truly advance. OP I hate to tell you this, but losing a war, however spectacularly, is still a loss.
Hitler is dead and Germany and most of Europe is in tatters.
What's more, press a Holla Forumsack hard enough and question his morality enough, and they will all
eventually
admit that they're no better than the kikes, but hey, at least they care about self-preservation.

so u be sayin'

we need to be

ZIONISTS?

OP confirmed for retard

What about political pragmatism?

Take 1 part utilitarianism: to answer the question "what do we want to achieve?"
Add 1 part scientific method: to answer the question "how to determine the best means of achieving it?"

And you get this: A government that uses the scientific method to determine which political policies maximize this ratio:
life expectancy + positive physical experiences (such as pleasure) + positive mental experiences (such as happiness) + empirically-justified beliefs (not "true beliefs" as it is too vague, and gives way to dogmatic thinking)
——————————————————————–
death rates + negative physical experiences (such as pain) + negative mental experiences (such as sadness) + empirically-unjustified beliefs (minimized via spread of critical thinking/skepticism, philosophical/scientific literacy, realistic self-perception, etc.)

And, of course, this equation prioritizes the most sapient demographics over the least sapient, that is: Caucasian male heterosexuals in first place (multiplier of x3), others with two of these traits second, eg. Caucasian male homosexuals, Caucasian female heterosexuals, Asian male heterosexuals, (multiplier of x2), those with only one of these traits third (multiplier of x1), and finally, those with none of these traits dead last (multiplier of x0, they are worth nothing).

responding to myself, I am aware of x1 multiplier being the same as no multiplier, i forgot to include the meaning in the brackets like i had done with the last one, i still kept the x"x" multiplier motif going, to show you that it's consistent all the way down.

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It's easy to say good things about Islam from a distance. Reality is that they're a bunch of degenerates. Iran subsidizes trannies, Afghans fuck little boys, Saudis and the other rich gulf states import white prostitutes to use as toilets, and they all marry their cousins at astoundingly high rates, which makes them even more retarded than they'd otherwise be.

You only seem to be thinking short-term here, while pleasure from instant gratification sources exists, it's going to result in a loss over the long-term compared to pleasure from delayed gratification sources. Look at the people in hook-up culture vs. people in happy monogamous relationships.
Again, your ability to account for the long-term gains is lacking, look at the people who are sheltered from adversity, are they happy? or paranoid, neurotic messes? compare to those who are taught how to face adversity, and how to hold a realistic self-image, they have much greater happiness over the course of their lives.
I have to disagree, yes, their mental illness and propensity to degeneracy such as child abuse definitely takes them down a point, but homosexuals can contribute quite a bit, milo yianopolous, alan turing, and plato, to name a few. make it clear that homosexuality is a mental sickness which debilitates their soundness of mind on certain social issues, keep them the hell away from children, and teach them to hide their fetish like most pedophiles do, and we can still live off of their potential contributions.

Faggot, get the fuck out.
Implying he needed to be a faggot for his work.
Nigger you what.

wat

We can kill off the kikes before we found our empire, it will be a necessary step.

I never said Turing's success came as a result of his homosexuality, it came about in spite of it, but he did make a contribution.

Did he not bugger boys? Was he not buggered himself? You know as well as I do that the answer to both is "yes".

INB4 "it was a different culture", I'm sorry, but principles are timeless, and must be applied consistently or else they lose all value.

back again, you know what? I'm more than willing to let plato go, even if he was a lifelong heterosexual, there are plenty other gays with plenty more objectively beneficial contributions, just sticking with science here.

Just to be clear, schizophreics are inferior to non-schizophrenics, but John Nash was a schizophrenic who made beneficial contributions, in spite of it.

Nikola Tesla was obsessive compulsive, which is also a mental illness, but he made contributions as well, again, despite his mental illness.

Homosexuality is the same thing, a mental illness only has negative effects on society when it becomes socially enabled or politicized.

>reddit spacing
every time

God you fag apologists are sick. Pedophilia is a mental illness that stems from being infantileized - it's a byproduct of industrial society. Homosexuality is a timless deviancy that turns men into predatory hypersexual freaks. They were all molested as children and seek to enact that molestation onto others.

Fags spread this "we're normal" meme to get access to children - not because they actually are normal. As for contributions those are all relative to IQ. A schizophrenic that ran over a man because he thought he was a space alien "CIA Nigger" wrote the kernel and assembler VAX operating system that's still used today.


Tesla was fucked in the head because he worked with wireless electricity and effectively carried out "shock therapy" on himself which effectively destroys a person's brain. His IQ was such that he overcame his neurology to contribute great things to society. Homosexuals cannot do the same due to the nature of their illness making them predatory. OCD, or even schizophrenia(usually) does not make a person predatory like say being a cocaine addict or a homosexual. Their contributions are all moot because they embody societal ills that - not only when enabled, but when not actively suppressed with the threat of state-approved violence - propagate the mind-virus that initiated the initial individual to become homosexual.

It's not only a mental illness it is a memetic one - much like modern day memetic mental illnesses like the "gang stalking" or "morgellons disease" phenomenons - it fucking spreads. This cannot be tolerated in the slightest in any society that values white children and the continued existence of the white race.

Pro-fag is anti-white. Indifference to faggotry is anti-white. Get fucking killed fag-enabler.

I've never used reddit, my mom does, her political opinions are retarded, the spacing was not from habits developed on any other site, they were to denote which greetext point you made that I was addressing.

Also, I agree with everything you are saying about them, but they can still be useful, like pedophilia, their fetishes can be treated, and potentially cured in the future, I wouldn't trust them around kids, even after they have received a cure that has been proven to be 100% effective, and I would still keep them segregated from the general population, but in their own quarantine areas, they can still contribute what they can to us (and I don't mean culturally or politically).

same deal, treat them, cure them if possible, but keep them quarantined.

are you forgetting that I said they'd also be quarantined for the rest of their lives?
Their communications will similarly be quarantined, as I am already well aware of their memetic threat.
and this is all in addition to the constant treatment and attempts at a cure, which, even after application, will not get them out of the quarantine.
fags are predatory, just like dykes, and traps, and pedos, which is why they get the quarantine, I'm not the kind to take risks, other forms of mental illnesses are not usually predatory, so they get a pass.

here's my reasoning:
mental illnesses like homosexuality can't always be the result of abuse, due to infinite regression, there must have been a first abuser.

Thus this shit can also be the result of a brain defect, hence my comparisons to other mental illnesses, the problem this poses is that you will never kill it off like you can do to kikes, injuns, abbos, spics, and niggers, it's not something that is supposed to happen, it's a spontaneous brain malformation, therefore the best thing to do is to quarantine them, and treat them to the maximum extent, as eugenics does not apply here.
Don't worry, there won't be any kids where they will be going.

Nope, it's a byproduct of being either a mobileposter or a forum-user/redditor.
Why is this relevant? Maybe some of her shit ideals rubbed off on you.
No, you fucking fag-apologist. The only thing that fags can be useful for is cannon fodder or being placed in captivity and put on display as examples of extreme deviants in some kind of fag-zoo.
No amount of contributions will change the fact that they are irredeemable freaks that have no place in a white society.
They can't. There is no cure for any mental illness. Psychiatry is a sham that's used by profiteering kikes to silence dissenting opinions. The only real psychology that cures people is behaviorism and it wouldn't work on faggots because the faggot's condition stems from a memetic origin, not a biological one.
Pedophilia can be cured by getting the pedos jobs and making a western equivalent of lolicon/idol culture to keep them suppressed. 18/21 AoC is fucking kikery anyway, traditional nations have one more around 15 - like nippon and romania.

Why waste the resources when concentration camps are much cheaper and likely more effective at containing them. Fags deserve no freedom because they are:

Traps are a different story entirely - they are more like brainwashing victims than anything. The Unabomber wanted to be a trap after getting MK'd and many traps say that an experience with psychedelic drugs or heavy sexual repression made them adopt a female persona. It's Jungian super-ego shit that can be fixed by implementing a NatSoc society where men are not ashamed to be masculine. If some girl had pity-fucked chris-chan he never would be a trap right now. Traps are men that have been feminized by a combination of sexual repression and industrial society eroding evolutionary pressure and creating a scenario where 100% of the girls fuck 10% of the men.


Again, why waste the resources when concentration camps are both more economical and efficient?
No, that "first abuser" was likely a greek acting out of impulse(created by isolation or sexual repression) and thus the meme was seeded. It is all from child molestation and it implants in the molested child a mind-virus that seeks to replicate and reenact that initial molestation.
Incorrect, with state-backed threat of violence against homosexuals it can be contained and eventually eradicated. This world has been fallen for so long that possibility seems alien to you - also likely "inhumane"
You're still using the modern "chemical" view of psychology - you need to go back to behavior. It's not some random spontaneous thing - it's a deranged human that became deranged via molestation and seeks to emulate that initial molestation, not something that 'just crops up every now and again' like say OCD or schizophrenia.
Again, why waste the resources. NatSoc society needs efficiency to maintain evolutionary pressure.

VID RELATED MANDATORY VIEWING FOR ALL FAG APOLIGISTS
youtube.com/watch?v=gXGlawiibK8

Too bad, so sad

Not asking you to change your opinions btw, just letting you know my side of it.

kill yourself kike, stopped reading there.

fuck I read it and now I'm mad.
You fucking kikes think it's all about money, you're just greedy capitalist dogs who wish to survive. You have no genuine homeland so you need to latch onto a host nation like some kind of parasite and bleed it dry. You think the ones that want you gassed also want to partake in a capitalist system that cannot benefit us? Get fucking real, and take you FED funny-munny elsewhere.

Nice niggerspeak too, reddit spacing as well. Fucking ebin how kikes will always show their inferior nature in any given scenario.

mhmm

Then get the fuck to Israel.

I was going to and then I saw the word 'donate' and immediately associated it with TRS style e-begging so I read the rest.
>more >reddit spacing
wanna know how I know you aren't from here?
I sincerely wish you'd stayed in that soviet satellite state and gotten killed by some ex-commissar that realized how bad his people got fucked because of yours.

Nah, it's total bullshit.

The flaw in Islam is the cousin marriage. It's the reason Muslims have evolved towards a low IQ, and can't act any way but degenerate even if the Quran theoretically has some sound traditional principles that are found elsewhere. Islam permitting cousin marriage makes them shit automatically.

Christianity is better because it introduced monogamy that raised IQ and made Europeans more individualistic and industrious, but there is the downside that the individualism led to openness in many people, leading to multiculturalism. The other problem with all monotheisms is that they are inherently universalist, whereas tribal gods are the religious equivalent of nationalism. Monotheism provides an incentive for its clergy to want to constantly expand the flock, and we see this in modern Christianity. Maybe it can be fixed with Deus Vult, but I can't help but feel it's eventually leads to universalism, because you have proposed a god of the world, even if it starts just being a god of your people.
Paganism is just LARPing though, because it contains too many elements that are easy to disprove such as gods living on mountains and so on.
Atheism is empty and can't motivate people, leads to nihilism which is filled with the same post-christian universalism.
Seems like the only answer is deism. A belief in a higher power comes very naturally, and can motivate people without a dogma about what that god is. Deism is the religious third position between theism and atheism, which befits the Aryan man. Spirituality that motivates people and makes them feel the world around them is alive with magic, but without the unprovable dogma and corrupt priesthoods of the world who seek new convents internationally as capitalists seek new labor.

How about this.
How about we stop whining about their being no leaders, because there are no leaders.
How about we stop cucking because of some fucking (((scandals))) that happened in our past and just keep fucking doing what we do, eh?

I'm a degenerate and so are you and we don't want to be degenerates any more and we don't want our children or anyone else's children to be degenerates like we were.

Oh sure, the kikes will attack like always, but you need only remind them they have skeletons of their own and are half the man you are for refusing to air them.

tippity top kek. This is why you lose /leftycuck/

No, I'm not an edgy postmodern nihilist kid who goes after ideologies like they're fucking collectibles or something. Get fucked, OP.

FTFM
fuck me, shit.
I will >>>/oven/ myself now

Cousin marriage is NOT bad. Guess (((who))) destroyed cousin marriage in the New World? It was the jews and their influence on the churches. They wanted to break up the tight-knight communal bonds of the goyim.

The flaw of Islam is that it's not just a religion, but a whole culture that is alien and unchangeable - any normal European will ultimately buck at the thought of Islam when the realization dawns that the things he holds elementary and innate to his blood, like personal liberty, individualism, honour, respect and nation become warped and ultimately destroyed under the overwhelming mandate to spread the pyramid scheme of Islam's sexual slavery and cultural desolation.

What you claim as flaws of Christianity are the product of Enlightenment and liberal thinking, which is inherently anti-Christian. Limits of Christianity very easily stop at the borders of your own country, as they did for the past 1500 years, and nationalism and patriotic elements were always strong parts of Christian culture in most countries.

Is the technocracy good? I think it will work if it is controlled by the fit white people as long as it is militaristic.

If they are genetically unrelated then it is okay.

Read The Doctrine of Fascism.

national socialism is the truth

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I was thinking about Green Distributism, but then I realized that all that it stands for is basically encompassd by National Socialism.

Green Distributism is basically reducing the population density of the cities and building self-sufficient communities that are strong on their own. The problem with that is that, as you said, industrial societies are stronger.

The problem with cities is that they become seats of power, and degeneracy always thrives in them. City folk are weaker then rural people.

Green Distributism would limit the maximum amount of people that are allowed to live in cities, and environmental concerns would also be addressed.

Niggers wouldn't be allowed, because they are an invasive species, and as such, they must be deported/purged/whatever.

Another weakness of this idea is that it advocates for population collapse, as there are already too many people on the planet, which is true, but the problem is that low-quality people reproduce a lot, thus further devaluing their own lives, while high-quality people don't reproduce as much, thus further increasing their own value.

That happened nowhere else to the extent it did in Germany.
Centrally planned economies aren't directly comparable to the National Socialist economic structure, it was a strange mix of capitalism, nationalism, syndicalism, and others.
Yes, after the total war declaration, hours increased, yet before that vacation time was extended along with worker's rights being enforced by the state, not perfect, but nothing is.
The rebound began before that.
So you're saying occupation and expansion of territory always leads to an increase in wealth? Economic integration is very difficult and expensive. Austria had never been a part of Germany before.

Yeah, they're a white country.

Its the type of cousin marriage that matters.
https ://hbdchick.wordpress.com/2012/02/13/the-canonical-family-tree/
(Archive archive.is/Q6XOM)
tl;dr Marry your mothers' brothers' daughter and you'll steer clear of most genetic retardation.

National Socialism was a Teutonic imperialist ideology with demonstrably expansionist goals. Lebensraum required if not the displacement of, the outright slaughter of slavs in their ancient ethnic homelands to satisfy the need for a great agrarian German east. It's great if you're a german or a member of the german diaspora but if it weren't for the soviets Hitler would have been responsible for the largest massacre of European peoples in history. There are aspects of it which I do deeply sympathize with but it is a germanic ideology fit only for germans. If you are not a german and claim to be a national socialist you are a fool. Hitler is preferable to Stalin but let's not pretend there aren't better alternatives.

Fascism is ill defined because it isn't an ideology proper, it is militant autocracy with a coat of paint on it. The original 1919 fascist manifesto reads like something off of a marxist tumblr post demanding womens suffrage and equal representation, the nationalization of all munitions manufacturing, the seizure of church property, the institution of a progressive tax and the expansion of labor unions. Mussolini and the early fascists departed from their marxist socialist cousins on the issue of nationalism (due probably to their service in world war 1 and thus having been trained to hold to ultra-patriotic sentiments for the sake of the war effort). The falange and other national integralist movements may be more accurately called right-wing and traditionalist ideologies but fascism proper is in name only.

Monarchism is the most stable form of government devised by man, the weakness of the modern monarchies is due only to the fact that they've been able to outsource their traditional responsibilities to democratic and republican sub-governments that pay them tribute. It makes the people happy, it keeps political scandal off their backs and they get to collect taxes just the same. There is a lot of stagnation in the royal bloodlines and I certainly believe if there were to be a feudalist revolution it would require the establishment of completely new noble houses, if it were to happen it would probably result in long lasting, stable governments.

Libertarianism is just small government utopianism, it suffers from the fact that all of the problems it solves were relavent only to the industrial era, in the post industrial world under a globalist free trade economy we've converted labor into a commodity and corporations chasing the cheapest supply for that commodity in order to convert it into more valuable consumer goods and services have found that betraying their homelands for third world labor is more profitable. Communism was always doomed to failure but it can be said that capitalism greatest failure was that it was doomed to succeed.

Well, it's not about being better, is it? It is about winning against our enemies, by any means and at any price. "Being better" is what cucks care about it only cripples you in the fight for survival.


Morality is, like everything else, an instrument of subversion, designed to make us abstain from effective strategies because the violate abstract fee-fees. Not only in the very concept of morality in war perilous, but Churches are front and center in the effort to undermine our civilization.

Interracial marriage? Approving of it is mandatory, according to 99% of Christianity (go to /christian/ and ask).
Non-White resettlement? These people are our brothers!
Anti-semitism? "Spiritually, we are Semites."
In-group preference? See pic.

Cucks and traitors to the very end, but at least they'll have the satisfaction of having lived utterly neurotic lives filled with constant prostration for the thoughtcrime Jesus proscribed in the Sermon on the Mount when civilization lies in ruins around them. What a life. What a life.

I sympathize with you, friend.

I of course firmly believe that we can never open the floodgate of the "based Jew", as it'd be our undoing, but that doesn't mean that therefore all Jews are evil.

We'd live in a better world if we could just identify and get rid of exactly the genuinely problematic Jews, but we don't live in that world, and due to past events, all Jews must be treated with suspicion.

See, you named yourself as a jew here of all places. You know what you're getting into. From this, I can therefore conclude that this is bait.


At its core, this is merely the behavior of entities in competition with others for scarce resources and territory. Same way as ants would genocide each other, and even trees if they had arms and legs. Believe it or not, Germany was exceptionally tiny compared to countries like Russia or the US, and back then the USSR presented the absolute threat of being a kike-infested commie shithole that was seeping through into Germany in the shape of the Spartacist Uprising. You're arguing on the morality of taking their land for one's people and the furthering of a nation's strength after hypothetically beating them up after the inevitable war that'd ensue, and this isn't going into multiple earlier examples in history like the Turkish migration into Anatolia, or the migration period that tore the Roman Empire apart. In fact, the Roman Empire would've never existed if it had been stopped by the morality of displacing and/or genociding people, leaving the position of superpower to whatever nation had both the strength and the willingness to do so.

The one thing I can agree on is that National Socialism worked for the germans, but only because it was an ideology of Germans, by Germans, for Germans. Obviously not every country in the planet is 1933 Germany in all aspects, but if we follow that line of arguing we're gonna end up with no ideology being ideal at all since we're talking about an ideology suitable for a general average country, IE not any in particular, even if it's a south american shithole. At that point, arguing about ideology at all is redundant, since not everyone lives in the same country.

wew lad

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/mutualism/

Been here for years and never bought the "Hitler is literally God" shit because it screams fedora, and fedora is degenerate. I don't want the government up my ass or to be so centralized that it can be subverted easily, so natsoc seems retarded. Libertarianism is nice on paper, but it opens the door to degeneracy big time. I'm a strict Christian traditionalist, and basically think the way the US was during the 1800s was just fine, with rules to prevent the entrance of degeneracy.

I want the federal government to only provide a standing army and immigration control. I want the state to be strictly Christian. No immigration at all would be allowed from non-Christians who don't meet a conservative statement of faith. No public schools, the local churches will care for the education of children, so it'll be almost a requirement for communities to form churches and fund them well, so communities will have strong ties that naturally repel degeneracy (see: rural vs urban towns). Churches will be required to have a statement of faith that is consistent with a conservative statement of faith. The state would be isolationist, and if we are forced to btfo any country, we will take over that country, no puppet mastering. Socialism would be punishable by deportation to a socialist country. LGBTBBQWTF would be treated as a mental illness. Votes would be limited to one per household, the latter being defined as a man and a woman in marriage with at least one child or expecting and with at least one working rifle. There would be tax breaks for people who work to establish Christianity within Historically non Christian countries like Mudslimia. Military service would be required for all men for one year after high school graduation. Women would be required one year of training on how to maintain a household. Gun etiquette and shooting practice would be a required high school course.

Basically: leave protection to the government. Leave culture and degeneracy control to the church.

ive been on Holla Forums since we were just a bunch of lolbergs on halfchan. i went through a brief dark period where i probably legitimately was an actual nazi. but i dont like reactionary bullshit. its good for bringing about change and during revolutionary times. but it never fucking works over peace time. it is doomed to fail, simply because the numbers arent there (i also think the rise of natsoc on Holla Forums was initially a subversion to further marginalize us free thinkers, but i digress). as a result, natsoc fell out of favor with me.

then i saw a lot of folks i know irl getting more read about communism and marxism etc. so i checked it out. definitely not for me. i did however find that i like a lot of anarchist philosophy, i just find it totally useless for governing. it has its place however, especially in art and music.

couldnt really tell you what i am now politically. i suppose it doesnt matter. im going to do my damndest to be a loud motherfucker about the things that i think are important, that the media ignores. child trafficking, organ harvesting, pedowood, the inherently divisive ideology that is the modern progressive agenda. also, unlike pretty much all of you, i fucking LOVE other cultures, musics, languages, symbologies, especially the weird, esoteric, and barbaric ones. if that wasnt a part of the world, then i wouldnt want to be part of it. the problem is, the progressives want to mix it all into one and destroy it. even though you are all a literal "bunch of nazis" you guys are some of the only people that give a shit about preserving heritage, history, and culture, even if that care only extends to your own.

so i guess this place isnt a home for me after all, but it feels like something close. where else other than a room of evangelists, can i discuss why we shouldnt be sexualizing children in media, without being called a prude, or a racist, or some other buzzword? nowhere. you folks are the only people in the world that are unafraid to delve into the terrible things that are commonplace in society. and you are the only ones who will talk about it. we live in a fucking age where nazis are some of the more open minded people. let that fucking sink in for a second.

also to answer your question, i think anarchoprimitivism is really cool to think about, but it is just totally impossible and useless to anything other than helping you to think outside the dogmatic box that is modern society.>>9732257

hey id also like to chime in on this.

the constant focus on the jew behind each and every event, narrative, post, international fuckery etc is a crutch and it obfuscates the actual problem, which i believe is far more international in origin. its not merely jews. you have to remember that judaism is also very secular and divided, even on things like zionism or even the justification of the existance of isreal. if isreal hadnt been in war since inception, it wouldnt exist today. if they had no hezzbollah bombing them, there would be a civil war within weeks. the idea that all jews are getting ahead by this international plan is fucking retarded. yes international bankers are evil and mostly jewish. does that mean we should be ok with the chinese, saudis or arab royal families doing the same thing? fuck no. we need to talk about ALL of it. NOW. we cant spend our time arguing whether some faggots nose looks jewish. who fucking cares? you could kill every jew on this planet, and not a damn thing would change. the game is set for this kind of fuckery, and when one head gets decapitated, another will grow to take its place. we need to change the game, not the head.

Can't say I'm happy about you being HERE, but this has been my goal for a long time now. Becoming the only choice people like you have is one of the most important things we can do while things like democracy still play any role. Brings the point to mind though that we're going to need some kind of containment area if a flood of fencesitters is going to be a problem.


Based kikes are dead kikes, the game can only be changed after we've swept out all the goblins. They're a primordial evil and must be dealt with, that said as a primordial evil, even after they're all gone they will still be a problem and we'll need to be eternally vigilant about their poisonous ideas infecting a new generation, purging them whenever they pop back up.

hey i try not to get in the way. and i almost never post shit like this, because its so divisive. i normally try to blend in, so as not to disturb the hive. i dont want to kill em all. i just aint that angry. but im not going to stop you. i just dont think that its going to do anything in the long run. nuke isreal, china will take over as the main force of globalization. nuke china and then saudis take over etc

i hate fascism only because i love free speech. also, i will always believe that destroying an entire people and their culture and histroy is beyond reprehensible. in my opinion its always a net loss to civilization. i believe free speech is the only way well ever get through this in one piece. but getting through this in one piece may not even be possible anymore. i can only try. so im going to try my way, and you will try yours. either way, something HAS to change. and soon. see you on the far side of the revolution, bud.

Now hold up! The Jew IS are very, very serious threat, and that's not just a Holla Forums talking point. While I can accept that some individual Jew isn't hostile to our goals, the memeplex of Judaism is.

Quite a lot would change, and quite a lot would've changed in the past. To wit:


Not every evil would be eliminated if Judaism were, but it is equally fallacious to say that Judaism is just a cog in the machinery of evil, completely replaceable and to be replaced the moment it falls out. Jews contributed a great deal of evil to history, and this was evil peculiar to the character of Jews. The Chinese would not have created some sort of religious ethnostate in the middle of the Muslim world, and Arabs would not have formed the seed of feminism. These actions, and more, were performed with the intention of subverting the West, using particularly slimy and nihilistic methods.

For details, I recommend that you read A Culture of Critique by Kevin MacDonald (and A People that Shall Dwell Alone, and Separation and its Discontents, if you're really interested), detailing the history and instances of harmful Jewish ethnic activism in history.

1. Israel isn't a force of globalization now; Jews are. It wasn't the state Israel that transplanted millions of non-Whites into Europe since the 50s. Israel might be a Jewish project, but it's not the entire Jewish project. The Jewish project consists of subversion for the goyim (largely effected by secular Jews), and ethnonationalism for the tribe.
2. China has always been isolationist. They want respect on their own turf, but they were never involved with foreign adventurism, nor with the poisoning of foreign cultures, excluding maybe Australia, which they deem to be in their sphere of influence. China is never going to lead millions of niggers into Europe, and tell the gwailo that it's good for them.
3. The House of Saud is ethnically Jewish. Aside from that, the Saudis only hold sway over Muslims, not over kuffar. No European is going to get his opinion from Saudi TV.

In a whiter world I would have very likely turned out pretty similar to you. I've come to understand these forces of globalization as you call them exist purely to prevent me from living in that world. My goal isn't complete until the last of them are gone. Obviously this lofty goal, even if I take the most proactive stance possible with it, is something that I will have to pass down to future generations to see to completion.

Free speech has it's place, but the current situation forces me to take a stance where I can't afford not to use any weapon at my disposal, and to deny the opposition as many of those weapons as I possibly can. After we run out of external enemies to rally against, things will likely soften as we become more internally divisive, which is fine as it's an inevitability, really. At least in the long run.

A white world is the ideal, but if some of the more backwards shitskins out there don't bother me I won't be the one calling for us to invade them next. That said though, muslims, the chinese, and the russians will all have to be sorted out, at least in their present form, for any such world to exist. The kikes cannot be afforded such lenience, nor can any who follow in their footsteps.

Our trenches will be the nicer ones, they should be easy enough to find. Nobody builds them quite like a nazi.

Interesting. Can you elaborate more on that? I've never encountered this position before and I'm certainly willing to hear more of it

In an American context, Libertarianism is implicitly racist, though most Libertarians wouldn't admit or even be consciously aware of that.

The Government is run for the benefit if non-Whites: the anti-discrimination laws, the pandering, the entitlements. You are taxed horrendous amounts in part because Jamal needs his crack money, and because Schlomo needs his wars for Greater Israel. You are explicitly forbidden from discriminating whom to hire, with whom to do business, and to whom to rent, based on skin color, sex, sexual orientation, religious affiliation (code words, of course; what's really meant is that you can't discriminate against niggers, fags, and Muslims). Consider what a deep intrusion into the right to private property this is: you are told by the government that you have to provide access to your property to certain classes of people, or that you at least have to have a good excuse if you don't. You don't truly own your business if you're forbidden from preventing a nigger's participation in it.

This is not to say that Libertarianism is wholly driven by racism, but racism is still a major motivation for being a Libertarian. When people say I want the government off my back, they might mean it, but the implied statement often is I want to anti-White government off my back.

Pretty much agree with everything you say here.
I used to be a filthy, virulent Marxist.
This proves, however, that there is hope for even our leftist Whites who haven't seen the light yet.
I always hated Capitalism, and didn't really care for Jews or Israel much, but the eye-opener for me was realising that Capitalism and Communism were two sides of the same Jewish coin.
At first it was painful for me to reject Marxism, but once I found the 'Third Position' it seemed to fit so naturally with all of the ideals I held deep inside me that I wondered how I had ever NOT considered myself National Socialist.
All this being said, I don't think there's anything wrong with Fascism, either.
In fact, in the current era, Fascism and National Socialism are pretty indistinguishable.
If the majority of the populace become learned scholars of Evola, this may change, but that would be a good problem to have!

What is the Tang Dynasty

What is pre-Han Southern China

Trying to fit yourself into an ideology is retarded. That's the kind of bullshit that liberals do.

Find what best matches the truth of your worldview. For most of us, NatSoc is the closest.

how so?

should not every competent white man be considered a valuable asset to and component of the tribe?

evola a shit

he wrote some good stuff, but he's ultimately a defeatist mystic who wanted to install a hindu caste system on europe

National Socialism did it

Look up Obergrupenfuhrer Richard Darre

Don't do this. Limiting yourself to an ideology is the same time you stop thinking independently. Nobody can comprehend the depth of reality.

National socialism is an archaic ideology just like communism. The difference is that national socialist ideals are based on the natural order. That is how it strays relevant.

This. It's actually amazing how many terrible things that Jews have been involved in, if you research it.
However, most of the time this information is either censored, hidden, or ignored–OR the activities are acknowledged, but it is blamed on (((Hwite))) Males!

The Jews that I admire and/or sympathise with:
Nathanael Kapner
Bobby Fischer
Norman Finkelstein
Paul Gottfreid

Not (((you)))

(((You))) are LITERALLY attempting to say:
If you 'fellow Right-wingers' would sympathise with 'the only Democracy in the Middle East and our Greatest Ally, Israel', then I would give you goyim a few choice shekels that I leached from your countries through Usury.
Yeah, no.
But, I'll give you a test, just to see what you believe.
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT ADOLF HITLER WANTED TO 'EXTERMINATE' ALL JEWS IN GERMANY?
Hint: I feel the same way about Jews that Hitler ACTUALLY did (not the vile propaganda that originated with the Soviets).

Come back when you know the difference between ideology and philosophy

I've changed my mind, white male heterosexuals first, white female heterosexuals second, asian male heterosexuals third, and asian female heterosexuals last.
Everyone else must die.

Actually there exists a culturally integratable Islam, Sufi, problem is no one follows it because it's damn near as hippie pacifist as central Asian Buddhism. You can probably guess why they're an endangered species.
(they're also not well liked for not considering dogs haram)

kansaspress.ku.edu/978-0-7006-1358-8.html
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

le homos are an oldschool spook with a vintage smell
stonewallsociety.com/famouspeople/magnus.htm

>Born in Kolberg, Germany (which is now Kolbrzeg, Poland) on May 14, 1868, the (((pioneering sexologist))) began his career in medicine and was soon drawn to the study of human sexuality. Hirschfeld's interests were personal as well as political. He was a transvestite himself (he even coined the term "transvestism") and an avid foot fetishist in addition to being homosexual. Hirschfeld believed that sexual orientation was a naturally occurring trait worthy of scientific inquiry and political emancipation rather than social hostility.

He probably didn't state capitalism (or democracy, liberalism, or whatever buzzwords they use, it's all the same) because like you said, it's just another tool of the jews. Modern capitalism is just controlled opposition to make you think you're on the right side and fighting the evils of communism… even though the jewish leaders behind communism all come over to America and start preaching for liberalism and the spreading of "democracy". It's a false dichotomy. It's the same shit.

There are only two real choices, because you can either choose to live under the jews, or you can choose to live as a free people.

Reading Revolt now. That shit is dense. And I'm concerned about how mystical his writing will get.

Inevitably subverted.

also good one
>Dutch East Indies company (((discovers))) fractional lending, which sounds good on paper, but as of 2008 we all know where that leads
Something about being from 'talmudic descent' just plain births some sort of self-destructive gene. In other peoples, this manifests in sub-100IQ members of that race so no harm done, redneck puts rocket boosters on his tractor and blows up, oh well.
But with Jews the "curve" seems inverted and you get all these academics and rabbinical beardos who can only think of destroying other cultures. How and why it happens would be interesting to answer, but they sure as hell ain't gonna let anyone figure it out! Most we've gotten is "they investigated themselves and cleared themselves of wrongdoing, but did make sure to note having a much higher rate of mental illness occurrence"


noice

kek someone didn't read that Holla Forums thread

so what's the problem?

With no aim you'll accomplish nothing. If your only goal is to stop other people from doing things you'll never be a part of a useful movement. National Socialism had success, and would have had lasting success, because there was a goal beyond "stop the commies". Hitler preached a never ending goal to improve, and proliferate. A constant drive to preserve the best and create better. Hitler's movement gave people pride in who they were, as well as what they could become. The rewards are endless when you really engage life; it's a game that's meant to be played, and played hard. Other either bent on destruction, or based on a mere live and let live mindset, will burn out (the former) or be corrupted (the latter).

Life is competition. Be a tourist of life if you want, but you'll miss out on the greatest experiences life has to offer. The peaks are available only to those who fight.

A dead end.

Other *ideologies