After Berkeley: A Strategic and Tactical Analysis

more random violence on camera less image management. everyone who disagrees is a muh PR faggot.

My bad. Will pick something better next time. Saging because own thread.

Why not both?

I like how people underestimate this board. After having a consistent discussion with a Holla Forumslack they'd be shocked to see that we're actually human.

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Any word on Soros sponsoring the rioters? I assume some of them are permanently on Soros' payroll but actual information would be nice.

One thing i'm taking away from this is that one should make sure to take pictures of ANY injuries in such a way that they appear as severe as possible. Don't count on anyone else doing it.

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I want to point out that Antifa makes use of scouts often on bicycles to track/gather intel. The counter protest that they put together in DC to go after Spencer and the Alt-Right used a guy on a bike that followed them when they tried to leave and blew a horn to alert the other Antifa to their location.

Yep, if you can't / don't want to fight on the front lines show up as medical support. Bandages, butterfly clips to close head wounds, anti septic, milk & water. Bring a shield and paint with with the Jerusalem Cross

That's not a mistake because the unwashed masses will never be told that. The lying (((media))) is on antifa's side and Holla Forums should know that by now.

Here are the real mistakes. More patriots need to wear helmets. Your skull is the most vulnerable part of your body. Even a bicycle helmet would have saved that guy that was hit with a padlock.

In all the videos, every time a patriot beat an antifa, there would always be a faggot pulling him off the enemy. Whose fucking side are they on? Not ours.

People kept their arms low, leaving them open for a sucker punch. Keep your arms above your waist. If you feel that's awkward, then pretend that you are Italian and gesture with your hands.

What sort of helmets would be recommended?

Yes, helmet & goggles, if you wear a motorcycle helmet you can headbutt anti fa easily. aim for the nose, its the quickest way to take someone out of a fight. Wear a backpack and fill it with water bottles etc so if you get attacked from behind you wont feel it.

Good call on helmets. However, more and more people are going to the internet for information. The marxist pawns will never come around, but our propaganda compaigns are working. More and more are being driven to our ranks. The acceptable application of force is necessary.

As for helmets, does it really matter? A construction helmet or a bike helmet would work just fine. They're not firing guns, they're hurling metal. Just so long as it is impact resistant it should be enough.

I'd probably avoid metal though, as metal will cave, ring, and carry through the concussive force. Plastic will shatter, but in doing so will absorb and diminish most of the force offering better protection. It will only work against 1 or 2 good blows, but it will protect better against those blows than a metal helmet.

Anything to soften a blow. Against most stuff they throw even a paintball helmet will help.

From a physics perspective, something which breaks or shatters will absorb more force than something which merely bends or carries shockwaves better. Examples of this in practice include crumple zones in cars, active defense on Abrahms tanks(look it up. It's cool as fuck), and yes, hard plastic helmets.

One like Stickman wears with side protection is preferable. But anything is better than nothing. Make sure whatever you have a certified protection rating that a bike helmet would have.

They all have smartphones and love free shit, create evil twins and offer free wifi for Antifa. We could mail em "free hotspot routers" flashed with all sorts of fun stuff.

Actually this is a good idea. There are things you can use like the PiNappe to spoof wifi. Neither side has any red team game.

So are we going to Set them on Fire or not. cause that my best Idea.

if you want something cheap heres a couple of options.
https ://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/gmax-gm67-helmet-solid

https: //www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/speed-and-strength-ss600-back-in-black-helmet

https: //www.revzilla.com/product/afx-fx-90-helmet

Guys with the bike or sports padding have the right idea, but if you want protection from blades get your self a chain vest. Will make you pretty much invulnerable to whatever knives they bring to the fight.

Would berry.

https: //www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/six-six-one-rage-pressure-suit

body amour $120.

stay in bane stance whenever a threat is near

Spangen helm. Accept no substitute. If it has a maille aventail even better

18 U.S. Code § 241 - Conspiracy against rights
law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/241

The people who were there need to file formal complaints with the FBI or else they won't do anything.

They expect one of the arms below the waist, brother.

Have we strengthened the bicep?

Do you think you could cause a panic if you could target their iPhones12 and Galaxies7000 in their pockets and break them? They probably don't mind losing a tooth but losing their precious 500$ phones might make them reconsider their stupid actions

Bane stance CHECKED

We really should make ourselves an imposing presence by bringing shields, forming lines and ranks, and marching. We need to got anons to watch some old Roman style tactics. Anti fa are easily scared and I bet even 10-20 guys lined up with helmets and shields marching in the front line could easily demoralize and push back a pack of blac blocs. The shields can protect others from thrown projectiles too.

I already setup perfect gear for this shit for a reasonable price, absolute is the helmet.
Best one I found is a baseball helmet, they provide solid ear protection, getting struck in the ear is one of the shittiest things.
They also tend to have solid cages for your jaw, couple it with plenty of space for a particulate mask and chemical protection goggles.
I saved on the torso because I have heavy padded motorcycle fall jackets.
Get a nut cup, you're fighting cucks that use dirty tactics.
Cycle gloves with hardened knuckles are good, too.
Other lower extremities are up to you based off of how well you can still maneuver.

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Yes, the lactic acid level rises.

so basically the problem boils down to ranged weapons?
Okay, everyone should come equipped with some sort of sturdy shield that can block incoming projectiles as well as double as a bashing weapon in a brawl. We sparta now.

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We'll, we are the hidden hand behind the preservation of western civilization

Shark Suits can be purchased for around $200 IIRC, and they're made out of light chain intended for use when swimming.

You don't want to go with a heavy chain like 8 in 1. They're not using sharp projectiles, and the types of blades they use aren't suited to penetration. A 4 in 1 should perform extremely well without tiring you out. Also, according to the britfag I referenced in OP, chainmail can get hot in summer and when under direct sunlight. Crusaders often wore cloth over their chain to prevent it from getting hot. Definitely wear a very light cloth over your chain. A t-shirt would do pretty nicely. And stay hydrated.

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Makes me wonder if there is a way to conceal magents on your gloves to fuck the phone in the event it survives the blow.

MOTORCYCLE HELMETS
MOTPRCYCLE KNUCKLE REINFORCED GLOVES
MOTORCYCLE JACKET WITH REINFORCED ELBOWS AND BACK

GET GUD MOTHERFUCKERS

Always attack the flag bearers

youtu.be/H04My9mSt_M

How good is that armor?

This. Shields give off the perception of us being under attack by them (which is actually true), they also double us as extremely effective melee weapons and are incredibly cheap to make. They are also easily decorated which can give us great photo ops, and if someone on our side does get injured the picture of 10 people holding up shields to protect them will make us look like heroes.

Shields are the way.

Great thread OP. Don't apologize for effortposting.

Embed related.

They can hit you with a steel pipe full force and it won't bruise.

Motorcycle gear is the answer. The faced shield on Te helmet protects from their pepper spray too.

Gear up in MOTORCYCLE stuff and fuck em up

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You want a face shield
Motorcycle helmet

checked. I've used the same amour for downhill mountainbiking and had some pretty horrific crashes on rocks, you're a force to be reckoned with in a battle for sure. also these

Remember their is a balance between gearing up and having deniability if you get arrested.

That's a pretty kawaii instrument of death tbh fam.

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This is why getting EMT training (classes are cheap and available at your local community college) and building out a medic kit is one of the best things you can do. If you have a high IQ, put it to use keeping our brawlers in the fight rather than trying to get the glory on your own.

That was the biggest issue, yes. Not the only issue by far, but antifa was constantly bombarding the rally, which forced a charge multiple times. Shields are good to have, but not a long term solution since holding them up all the time will tire you out. Helmets and decent armor are better. As stated in OP, retaliating with reasonable, understated force is the best option. Especially considered our side is disorganized(a strength and a weakness). If you come with a shield, you protect yourself. If you come with a sling, you protect everyone.

All that being said, shields are still damn useful, as shown by others at past events. If you can bring it, do so. But don't rely on a shield alone.

One more thing on the note of shields. The best type of shield for this event would be a Hoplite style shield. Essentially big thin piece of metal, gripped in the center. Shields with straps offer much less coverage because they can't cover legs, and can only move at half your arm's length, as opposed to a full arm. Strapped shields and heaters caught on due to cavalry and jousting, but base infantry used shields with a central grip and no straps.

Learn from our ancestors. Use large thin shields made of wood(metal is overkill here) with a central grip. Also, included a cord in your design which can be slung over the shoulder. Ancient shields often had cords which could be slung over the shoulder, allowing the shield to be held with the handle pressed against the chest. This meant your arm would rest while your body bore the weight. As soon as an engagement started, you would sling the cord down and wrap it around your forearm or simply let it dangle. This allowed you go from passive to active without wasting energy during breaks in the fighting, AND still provide protection during said breaks. Read up on historical weapons. Modernized versions are great in these skirmishes.

You both have a point. We all need to bring shields. Also, remember that we are under attack by them. We didn't start this shit. We didn't go into neighborhoods and terrorize people and pepper spray them at their left wing meetups. We are there to meet them with fair force, to show them if they want to pick a fight we will meet them and not allow others to be attacked. We are the shield

Yep, everyone should take an EMT course anyway. Always best to be prepared

Not really worth it. Electromagnetic force falls off quickly, and unless it is in direct contact with the hard drive and drawn across it, you won't be causing much damage. A glancing blow to the pocket certainly isn't going to do it, and sudden impacts will demagnetize it anyways.

Painted 3/4 inch plywood shields with the American flag on it. Imagine 25 of those all stacked up.

The one posted is small size only however, I would need something for larger size. What about these?

revzilla.com/motorcycle/cortech-accelerator-protector-armored-jacket
revzilla.com/motorcycle/thor-sentry-xp-body-protector

And I got these for gloves.

copsplus.com/hatch-sp100-defender-ii-gloves-with-steel-shot

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Look into the legality of those gloves. Some of the more cucked states will get you on bullshit charges for sap gloves.

Yep. That's why I'm strongly advocating slings. They're easy as shit to smuggle, and the popular perception is that slings are not effective. Even cops don't know how effective slings actually are. There's a reason they saw military use for thousands of years. Also, there is a video on that series SPECIFICALLY discussing slings and shields together. Good combo imho. It shows an intent to be defensive, while allowing deniable assets used for offense.

Only Illegal in two states.

Motorcycle gloves are legal.
You can where them in public.

You didn't put down not organized and can't into melee numbers. They fought like individuals and not a troop. Come on fags.

either of those models will work fine, the cortech with the removable back piece would be good if you're planning on using a backpack with supplies. will give you more range of movement.

Wanna bet one of them is Commiefornia?

We need to create a red team guide for protests, easy enough for any skiddie with a pringles can to follow. Their job should be entirely recon and mapping out targets for us.

Property damage? You are suppose to be bashing antifa skulls. Not breaking their toys.

Dont use helmets, or armour for that matter. it obscures your line of sight/ range of movement and tbh if you can't handle getting punched in the side of the head you shouldnt be there anyway.

Only "amour" should be maybe knee caps, shin guards, or fighting gloves

Behind the Sheild wall of American flags you could have a triage setup. Imagine that for public opinion adjusting.

Some armor is shit, yes, but stuff like is good. Also good luck getting punched in the head with a helmet on.

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What about a few brave anons disguising themselves as blac bloc, moving among their ranks, and sabotaging their efforts somehow? There's a huge risk of one of our guys accidentally hurting you, or being outed in enemy territory, but it may also provide an opportunity to create chaos among their ranks. Maybe acting as a false hero (purposing trying to organize charges in poor tactical situations) or false medics (making pepper spray effects worse instead of providing a liquid that relieves) or simply a few people on the side lines reporting intel back to ourguys.

Magnets don't really fuck with modern consumer electronics that much tbqh fam.

You really like getting tired, eh?

Mouthguards are good too.

EMT bags and setups are great cover for red team infosec as well.

Here's a ranged weapon for you. Leave cans of Pepsi in the freezer over night. On the battlefield, throw them right in a commie's face. Then start punching them.

Already happening. Been doing this the last 2 protests

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Worst advice ever. You must be antifa scum.

Don't try and false flag, because lefties already have a delusional conspiracy theory about that. Don't prove them right.

As for recon? Fuck yes. Quick movement by groups of /ourguys/ and recon would help speed up the OODA loop.

pic related mfw

we call our guys "the capsules" when?

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TBH, 3/4" is pretty heavy and probably overkill. A 1/4" large round shield of hoplite style(think 2 to 3 foot diameter) with a cord for resting outside of engagements, a central handle, and a thin sheet of leather or flame resistant cloth over the front would be plenty effective, with the added benefit of being usable to defend innocent bystanders and your compatriots.

Some others sources(Lindybeige is seriously a great channel):

On Thin Shields:
youtube.com/watch?v=yNyvLz9w69s

Hoplite Shields w/Straps. Good example of goal size, but the strapped shield is bad since we're not using formations:
youtube.com/watch?v=__mH8Xa7Sto

Single handle grips. These are better for the types of weapons we're facing, are more versatile for fighting outside of formations, and better for covering allies and whatnot. Also, better for shield punching:
youtube.com/watch?v=fdHo-1jbX1A

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t. Antifa

You could always do 1/2 inch ply. Ideally made so that each sheild has a bracket on the bottom that could lock into the top of another sheild so you get assistance holding it.

I don't know where you'd get aluminum, and most people have tools to cut wood, it would be easy to determine a standard size and diy with wood. The sheild wall would be protecting the EMT medics and not moving a whole lot.

More stealth armor ideas - Baseball cap hard hats. They don't offer as much protection as a full helmet but it's a small fitted piece of armor that lines the top of the cap. Lightweight and inconspicuous.

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fuck off antifa.

definitely need a chin strap whichever way you choose

I would staple on the back of my 1/4 inch sheild some tyvek house wrap, that way if a projectile does breakthrough the shards would be contained.

Neither side fights like a troop. But they still use numbers for deniability and disguising attackers. That was why I said they fight as a group whereas we fight as individuals. This isn't a military engagement where the goal is to kill. It's about forcing a rout, and concealing weaponry. They do have an advantage on concealment, but are much easier to rout.

That's a nice style. Any companies to recommend? Quality is important.

Best anime handsdown. The manga isn't bad either

As much as I like the idea and the aesthetic of the Roman phalanx, if you watch any of the videos from any major protests (save Ukraine, which had two encamped sides and a no-mans-land in between) mobility is key, and small group tactics of 2-3 people you trust are likely the most organized you'll get. Most important is finding a few like-minded friends.

That's the most retarded advice I've ever seen. They're hurling projectiles at your head. Peripheral vision isn't as important when you're arrayed in lines, like in the last antifa skirmish. It's also not as important in ancient military battles, which is why hoplites and legionnaires wore helmets which had poor peripheral vision.

If you're acting independently from a central group, you want a helmet with better peripheral vision, but you STILL want a helmet.

"Los Pepes"
"Satan's Schutzstaffel"
"Hell's Stickmen"

You can use magnets to cause damage to a phone? How? How close does the magnet have to be to the phone and for how long? Have you ever tried it?

The police were confiscating soda cans because they could be used a projectile. The few that made it in were smuggled. This is why slings are the superior weapon.

That's a good idea.

One other thing to note: synthetic fibers melt to flesh. ANTIFA are known to use molotovs, so use natural fibers where possible and especially for a base layer. NO UNDER ARMOR BASE LAYERS.

t. firefighter

You may have good intentions, but:
1. our side already won
2. clickbaiting kills the quality of the thread.

Try being in good shape. You sound like the whiners on /k/ pushing "MUH HEAVY AMMUNITION BAD 9MM 5.56MM GOOD" memes because having to carry something is hard for pencil-armed wimps. Of course, plywood is fucking stupid anyway. Make a shield out of real wood, like what would have been made for real medieval war. Plywood is weak shit and breaks easily. It's good for cheap walls and ceilings for a wooden shed, not for blocking attacks.

You can use magnets to fuck with electronics, but not in the way you're thinking of. Magnets lose their properties when struck with a heavy blow. The other way to ruin a magnet is heat, but either one will fuck with it. Anyways, aiming for their phones is a dumb idea overall.

You're aiming for a small target, which is often protected by blow-resistant armor, on the side of a moving opponent, while they are trying to put you in the hospital. Bad idea. Don't even try.

This looks weak

"If you have a strong horse and weak horse, men will always prefer the strong horse"

Take pictures of you always winning.

Never go for sympathy over strength

yep, waste of time, but if they have their phones out and holding them, swipe them out of their hands and stomp.

Historical shields were very thin. Most were 1/4".

I don't know what you know, but I can tell you that shields and swords wore you out extremely quickly as is, even if you're in good shape. Being fit is important, but poor designs and wasted energy are still a factor.

Don't make a shield you can't carry comfortably for long periods, and use a sling to bear weight when not engaged.

this.

If I'm going to combat I want these fucks to be intimidated and nothing intimidates like old german stuff.

That's another thing. Have people bring duffel bags full of weapons and have them wait outside the security zone. When the (((mayor))) orders a stand down the police will leave. Then bring the weapons in. Arm up.

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Thank based Right Wing Safety Squad brother

The goal is to do both. Show our side driving them back, and our side taking blows but being strong DESPITE that.

The best example of this was the guy who got pelted with a lock, was bleeding all over the place, and laughing about it while he was getting bandaged up. Contrast that with hairy asshole cunt who wants 80 grand on gofund me.

We show that their side is violent, but that our side is STRONG ENOUGH to take the blows. This makes them look weak, while also making us appear strong AND have the moral high ground.

Get injured, get bandaged, and laugh about it. Take injuries protecting old ladies and those who are weaker than you. Being injured does not necessarily mean you are weak. If that was the case people wouldn't respect veterans.

It's about appearing strong while also showing the enemy as dangerous and irrational.

Thanks user!!!!

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Not weak but smart. The war involves a mental aspect and propaganda works. Not to mention you want to document Antifa being violent so if (when) they Jew up and take people to court, you don't get Jewed.

Thats good info, hadn't thought of that

Youd be surprised at how good visibility you have even in a helmet like this. Pic related is my setup in case anything happens close to me, still working on a decent stabproof chest piece.

I had heard that the police told the patriots they would be protected if they gave up their arms, flags, and such. Then the police left without confiscating any antifa weapons. Keeping the weapons out of harms way is a good idea, but whre would you find volunteers to do it?

Fair point, although we shouldn't shy away from aggressive action if there is an opening.

just go full football helmet then. Those are actually designed to protect you in hand to hand combat. Shoulderpads too.

And then you get grabbed by the face protector part and risk added momentum leading to an easier neck injury.

All this LARP'ing is fun and all, but we need to create a rapid response red team guide for the boots. What to gather and whom to send it to, photos of faces, network addresses, plates and whatever else that might be useful. Antifa will give you their names, phone number and address willingly if you ask the right questions or make the right offer; just walk around with a petition to impeach Trump.

Removing their masks will demoralize and create paranoia within their ranks more than anything else, especially the leadership.

hory shit is this real or practice?

I agree

In general, I think it's pussy not to have a motorcycle license as a grown man. Motorcycling is like lifting for the mind, it keeps your senses sharp and gives you a deeper connection to your Aryan soul.

Just don't ride streets like they're a track and you'll be fine.

effective protection indeed.

training

- What are common chemicals used as pepper spray, home-made or store bought, commonly used by Antifa?

- What home made remedies can be brought to events to help people who have been sprayed?

Baby oil and milk for pepper spray.

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THE ONLY THING THAT'S PREVENTING NATIONALISM FROM AWAKENING IS THE SHAME OF THE LYING MEDIA.

Ski goggles (mandatory anyway, eyes are easy to lose) and a cheap paint respirator with n100 filters (also protects your teeth.)

IRL muh PR fags

Do you have advice on bringing sling ammunition?

won't carrying a bunch of stones around be counted as ammo?

Sap gloves (leather gloves with lead shot sewn inside) are better than that larp shit. Plus, they just look like normal gloves

Seconding /ourguys/ need to use roman/riot police tactics. Antifa fights like barbarians (minus the skill and ferocity and sense of honor) an organized phalanx can fight off a much larger group of unorganized skirmishers.

"Fight them like animals so they know they are not fighting against men, but against the masters of animals"

LARP helmets might get you upboats on T_D but stick to a bike helmet with a strap. easier to integrate with goggles / gas mask

You want to rek ANTIFA? Go there masked. Wat for the cops to leave, then beat the shit out of them.

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Is this a good helmet? I need something that will protect my skull from rocks and my eyes from pepper spray.

amazon.com/gp/product/B019O203C4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A34CC33DU2Z2GJ

Missed out on an opportunity.

Just FYI y'all inspired me to research armor and this underarmor batting helmet looks like the best mix of full head protection and low profile design that will work well with heat dissipation

academy.com/shop/pdp/under-armour-adults-silver-tech-batting-helmet

Combining with the idea about infiltrating their ranks since dressing like a cuckninja is easy, this would be an excellent and massively-helpful idea for the non-fighters. These moralizing fucks can't help but virtue signal, so giving them a chance to out themselves to a 'fellow rebel' might work wonders. Just take the petition names off and parse through the data later to deliver some evidence to the police during peacetime when they can round up these fucks.

At least you can get the absolutely retarded ones with it, so probably pretty good numbers.

get some eyepro to hand out. The bulk pack polycarb ones of just over a buck a piece.

Pepsiman is not gonna take shit from anyone.

If you aren't picky you can look in second hand shops and goodwills. There's usually one or two cheap motorcycle helmets or baseball/football helmets at any given time.

Good idea. Making a communist / punk / anarchotrash costume isn't hard, they all have the same look. Just buy some anti-Trump t-shirt or the 'pussy' hat, you don't even need a nose ring or blue hair. And if you're courageous you could dress up as a woman and insult the people who are misgendering you. YOU'RE A TRANSPHOBE! YOU HATE ME BECAUSE I'M DIFFERENT!

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It's like pottery.

No, it's airshit user. Probably going to have to cough up more than 30 bucks for a decent helmet.

LARP shit may not be a bad idea, provided you don't make yourself look like a fat katana enthusiast. A bit of style goes a long way. Particularly if you're throwing in legionnaire tactics.

checked. just needs a black sun sticker and its perfect

Soda cans explode if you feeze them, dummy.

Don't forget Antifa has flammable clothing.

Someone needs to infiltrate as blac bloc, keep cool through the protest, gather intel, and show up to one of their after parties in one of their squat houses for more gathering opportunities. Yeah, a lot of these events have after parties and gatherings afterwards.

Do you have a link? Real riot helmets cost $150. I don't need it to be bulletproof. Just rock proof.

Ancient White Efficiency in warfare is something glorious to behold. Imagine the mutual amount of shit pants if something like this happened from our guys at an "event".

Just get an old GI pot. It'll stop a rock.

HDPE cutting boards

Bumping this opinion!

go back to Holla Forums

That M4 has the fully functioning 3-pos Giggle Switch

Both would be best. The anarchism subleddit has been making more posts about PR and the perception of them attacking people who, yes I am shocked they are even admitting this, not fascists.

Also, the mistake you are making is assuming the appropriate amount of people needed to fight back are brainwashed. Assuming we are strictly talking about America, we live in a country that romanticizes freedom fighting. Patriots are going to see these and become visible in opposing leftism. I also believe we can get some Liberals (Not establishment liberals and not leftists) to oppose them. That along with the fact it will demoralize lefties decreasing their visibility in society is appropriate grounds for propaganda depicting Trump supporter injuries.

I have an idea. What if we use water balloons as our ranged weapons? We can dye the water if we want as well. This creates a harmless (almost comically so) ranged weapon that is actually quite demoralizing to a group like antifa, plus it cannot be reused against us like sling projectiles could. I noticed a lot of reused ammo yesterday, so I started breaking their rocks that came in.

Water balloons will not be spun by the media, they CAN'T be. they're harmless. But if we dye them and use them in large quantities, we can even kill their electronics.

This may be out there, but would piss be too far? Yes, this is a serious question.

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they dont have intel, they run by their instincs like animals. they are just a bunch of unorganized teens that watched to much movies. the only solution to their problem is get spanked and go to bed without a meal. fucking kids. if america has a good education, things like this shouldnt happen. education starts in the house, and how the situation is going, it looks like there is no education at all.

Two dub posts in a row. Truly I am blessed.

It might be an SBR too, that barrel looks pretty short.

You could be charged by police for throwing piss around.

Best to stick to water………….Really stinky foul smelling water.

As much as I would enjoy beating the crap out of some of these commie faggots I feel it's kind of a waste of time. These LARPers are the bottom of the barrel, they're really dumb and they don't have any real power. I would prefer to go after George and Alex Soros and people like that.

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Nope, I was leaving the contents more or less up to the imagination. Piss, puke, pepsi, beer, whatever, I don't care. Point is it's harmless, demoralizing, and non-reusable.
Note, they will do it back to us, and they will be nastier for sure, so I'd like to keep it to dyed water, that's where the media angle gets the most benefit

Wood is decent, but I would recommend sheets of plastic such as HDPE and Polycarbonate. If you wanna get real fancy get UHMWPE. HDPE and PC are slightly more expensive than wood, but they are going to perform better at failure. There wont be wood splinters for one. HDPE is probably the best balance of price/performance, its the same stuff they make those plastic cutting boards out of.

Why don't you fags recruit some military vet nationalists with real tactical knowledge and combat experience to help you organize and draw up some legit battle plans?
Smoke bombs and sucker punching porn slags? C'mon guys, step up your game or go home.
Oh yeah, and next time organize your event inside a stadium, so I can munch popcorn and drink beer from the stands while you beat each other bloody.

Easy there, underestimating your opponents is an easy trap to fall into, you can never go wrong overestimating them and countering for that.

Fill them with Pepsi. Rain sticky peace down on their dreadful heads.

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Winning the street fights doesn't matter beyond not being intimidated. The message is what will win the war.

Tap water from California is the same exact thing.

Where do I find this stuff?

Milk bottle lids my dude.

Could these be adapted to take impacts like modern hard hats & their suspension webbing?

We need cestus's

kys you lowlife pos sister fucking redneck that has nothing but negativity to contribute

We used to make stink bombs as kids out of regular garden chives mixed with water, you'd leave it in a big jar in the hot sun for a week or months, and watch your nose.

These goys got the memo ahead of time:

Cheap plastic snow saucers works great. You don't need to stop spears, just sticks and rocks.

Bring hard, stale candies like gumballs, scotch mints things like that. These have the added bonus of shattering on impact causing lacerations via shrapnel, and are relatively easy to sneak in alongside food as part of a packed lunch.
Also make smoke grenades (instinctual reaction to thick smoke is to run away, clears crowds), and stuff like this shit embedded, except with paint instead of rocks so antifa can be identified after, or maybe wasabi powder to burn their eyes.

Also, you should realize that beating the absolute fuck out of three or four of them in front of the crowd will cause them to rout, as the feeling of being superman is destroyed by the very sight of blood and shatters their morale like glass.
t. former antifa, occupy-er

Why not use salt-water? Better against electronics and slightly eye irritating.

There is this retailer near where the riots took place:
https ://www.tapplastics.com/
If you are willing to order stuff online for higher price in the continental US:
https ://www.mcmaster.com/

You need to be able to get big public rallies before you have enough power to go after the big fish. Securing the rallies is important to drawing large crowds.

If we are trying to sway public opinion, we cannot go in like a bunch of hooligans. I would say have the main group keep concealed non-lethal weapons and then have key organizers in contact with more groups off site in-case things escalate. There will be 2 tiers of QRF for non-lethal and lethal.

The non-lethal backup would mainly have shields, body armor, and batons or various other "non-lethal" melee weapons.

And tier 2 obviously only called in emergencies with lethal weapons. Obviously these can vary depending on the location.

Also the main group needs to not act like retards and get into dumb debates if we want to sway people.

Then when the Antifa faggots get all uppity we can bring in QRF phase 1 in to demoralize and maintain moral of the main group. Bash some heads hopefully that works.

Then if the AF decide to get more ballsy and go full lethal, well, we know what to do. Also any people in the main group can conceal carry or whatever depending on whether the location allows.

That is just a few ideas I have. We don't really have much in terms of organization so it is hard to logistically execute much.

Here's Proof of my former allegiance, the infamous bonfire at Charles and Commercial, Vancouver BC. Sponsered by the RCMP and David Eby the communist Poverty Pimp

Or you could go with the shield style the Ukrainians used at the Maidan. Plastic melts and burns. 1/8" aluminum should be sufficient for 90% of the stuff you'd face, very light and maneuverable, and easy to find and machine.

Scotch mints and gumballs have no density at all, and their fragments sure as shit aren't going to hurt anyone.

https:// www.alibaba.com/product-detail/PC-handhold-anti-riot-shield_499345108.html

Cant wait for the 27th in Berkley, I'll try and film it

Wait, you think there isn't a liner in that? Its got practically the same liner as a hardhat except its comfy leather. You head isn't resting against the steel shell at all, it wouldn't be a very good helmet if that was the case.

Why are people interested in fighting their zergs well, niggers and spics are their zergs but close enough under disadvantageous conditions? I get that a fight is fun except for potential molotovs or bloodborne diseases, but there are better objectives and methods?

Is it just because no one is willing to escalate?

We use those at my job. Not really a full hard hat, more of a bump cap. Need something with a suspension.

10 Peice Minimum, at $50 per, is $500, plus ungodly shipping charges. Might be tricky user.

We absolutely have to figure out a better way to organize, but I like your ideas there, problem is we have a mix of 4 and 8 Holla Forums FB normies and boomercons. Great people but we aren't utilizing the same methods of communication

This user is onto something here. These are cheap, and relatively common.

Jesus fucking Christ. I saw a white woman with a nigger Rastafarian with her two gross mulatto children. That really put me in a bad fucking mood. Why must white girls must be so gullible and led astray by degeneracy.

Depends how fast it's going, I used to practice with my slingshot using them as they were environmentally friendly because of their shattering effect.
Here's an idea, Front line of shields, secondary line of sticks, tertiary line of slingers, or you can bend solder pieces into a V shape and sling those instead. Or copy this guy.

http:// www.ebay.com/itm/530x3-0mm-High-quality-handheld-Transparent-PC-riot-shield-protection-safety-/171889295183?hash=item2805667f4f:g:z0IAAOSweW5VbUoq

Then we need to make memes of people that had hard hats, goggles, boots, proper battle gear, and mix it with roman soldiers in rows, so even without proper organizational channels, the memes will get people interested in organizing themselves. Know what I mean? The based stick man memes were great, but now we need to push the Roman style tactics harder with the new crop of Berkeley heroes.

aluminum is fine, but not that resistant. and its a metal so it can transfer heat quicker. if they trow something hot, you will get burned. plastic solves that problem.

Who are you? Putin? You would need Spetsnaz or Army Delta to take out an elder jew.

There's a Gentleman's agreement in place user: We won't use guns if you don't use guns, and you won't use guns if we don't use guns, or explosives or HIV poisoned darts, or poison gas, or exploding containers of comet cleaner. However since the commies used explosives and grenades, means we can use them due to precedent. It's a white thing, this mutual mental restraint, stupid antifa are breaking it and will end up in hospital morgues. All will.

Good point. Yesterday was my first. I know what to expect now and I'll have a little better gear setup next time. Also, how do we setup the next engagement? Is there anything planned? Memeing tactics is genius, it will probably bleed over to them though, they're already trying to change the blac block style uniform to armor because of what they saw us doing.
They've been ineffectively using shields already though, so maybe it won't matter

I don't think it's a gentleman's agreement on their part. I think they're scared to death to escalate to our obvious strongsuit

Awww leave joerg out of this.

If you can find it at some asian market it might be worth a try:

the*dailymeal.com/fermented-shark-and-10-more-world-s-stinkiest-foods

Durian

"If there is any food famous for its putrid smell, it is durian, a tropical fruit that's soft in texture and tastes surprisingly good. Durian smells like a heap of garbage that has been drenched in gasoline. It’s so famous for its hard-to-handle smell that it is actually banned on public transport in many places, including taxis in Thailand and trains in Singapore."

is that for real? i thought those things were imposible.

Okay, for shields here are two options. If you want to make a 4' by ~2.5' shield, buy this: regionalsupply.com/default.aspx?page=item detail&itemcode=ALUM96080WW and cut it into three pieces (share with friends!) Bend the edges a bit to let it shrug off projectiles.

For a smaller 24" x 36" shield, (what I'd probably go for) you can get this:
regionalsupply.com/products/SIGN SUBSTRATES/ALUMINUM SHEETS/ALUMINUM/Attributes/Thickness/@@2e080@@22/Search.aspx?Collapse=

This is the thickness the ones used at the maidan were so they should hold up.

It's what both sides used at the maidan. Say what you want about who was funding that, the fighting was absolutely real. You should use some kind of backing where your arm goes, but aluminum is a hell of a lot better against fire than plastic, which melts to flesh.

Memes and autism are fine, but when you're talking about actual fighting, stick to things that are known to work. Look at what other people have used in similar situations and copy that. Winning is the goal, not running around with a bunch of melted milk bottles or LARPing as a crusader.

There can be no agreement between men and vermin. If you trust your life to the honor of a subhuman commie, then you will only get what you deserve.

checked, keked
Well, next time give everyone a broom handle. That'll allow everyone to reach out and touch someone up the nose, and see this post of mine for a formation. And this manual I wrote for antifa back when I was a edgy young alcoholic: pastebin.com/G4HmGYFZ
Also have some molotov recipes from commie clashes throughout history, these were handed out years ago:
Formulation of Che Guevara - 3/4 gasoline and 1/4 oil;
formulation of VAZ - 2/4 of gasoline, oil 1/4, 1/4 ethanol + 10-20 grams of dry mixture of aluminum dust and iron filings in a thin-walled glass ampoule;
Finnish recipe - Gasoline add 10-20 ml of industrial sludge;
Soviet recipe - equal parts of gasoline, kerosene and naphtha, the fuse - the thin-walled ampoule with sulfuric acid, potassium chlorate salt and sugar;
French recipe - petrol and acetone mixed in a ratio of 1: 1, add 50 ml of turpentine, then dissolved in a mixture gradually shredded polystyrene to a thick syrup
(variant - polystyrene is first dissolved in acetone, and then mixing it with gasoline
Turkish Formulation - 70% gasoline, 10% wax, 20% of oil.
White phosphorus is then dissolved in the mixture.
Odesskaya formula (French version, used, in particular during the Hrushevs'koho Street Clashes. ) - 70% gasoline, 30% shredded foam dissolved in maximum possible concentration in acetone.

It only last outside the body for 30 minutes if I recall.

What we honestly need is the one thing that will be used against us by the government.

We need a centralized disciplined streetfighting organization that does this kind of thing regularly.
What we need are people that can hold back, but can attack like a coiled spring when the time is right.
We're fighting antifa on their own terms, using their style of fighting.

We should have a fighting group that waits in the wings, lets the rabble on both sides battle eachother, and when things head up charge their flanks and start fucking pounding them.
Don't get involved in the small scraps, stay outside the fighting so you can move freely, and then when antifa makes a move get them from the side and fucking slam them.

Shields can also be plausibly used as signs. Just paint what you would write on a paper sign on the shield.

Another, cheaper choice for the shield materials:
store.hallsigns.com/24-x-36-Aluminum-Sign-Blank_p_3167.html

I would strongly consider malodorants as an offensive weapon. They won't be able to fight as well if they're gagging and retching from sheer PEE PEE POO POO stench. Guaranteed pitfall in their admittively low morale when they're swathed in a smell so wretched it can only remind them of how much of a fucking failure of a human being they are.

"The material used in "Skunk" said to be an organic and non-toxic blend of baking powder, yeast, and other ingredients. Deriving its name from the animal of the same name, "Skunk" is dispersed as a form of yellow mist, fired from a water cannon, which leaves a powerful odor similar to rot or sewage on whatever it touches."

Get workin' anons.

I'd cover a 1/4" piece of plywood with that.

The reason we won was that we were so clearly in the right. Antifa spent hours throwing explosives into crowds of innocent people, specifically targeting the press when possible.

I tend to agree with and while I understand why we don't escalate, no one here should have any qualms about it with a dishonorable enemy or in a fight for racial survival.

Many of them wear ear extensors and degenerate metal shit on their faces, grab it and pull out.

I'm not talking about trying to become a ninja to assassinate him, I'm talking about exposing his activities, the thugs he supports, etc. His name should be instantly recognized among the general population and being associated with him should cause social stigma

What threat are you trying to address by reinforcing (and adding weight)? Aluminum's big weakness would be against penetration from a sharp projectile, but ANTIFA isn't using bows and arrows or guns or spears. 2mm aluminum is going to do fine at absorbing/deflecting most rocks or other projectiles that are easily thrown by an individual, or for smashing a gommie in the face, or for deflecting the blast from a firework. Any extra weight slows you down and tires you, no matter how fit you are.

If retard shills like you didn't come on here so much posting your ugly Jew porn then maybe the real Holla Forumsacks would be have more interest in good discussion.

Makes me want to carve it out, tbh.

That's the point I was trying to make, they're going to burn themselves into the minds of normies as the evil cowards they are, and set the stage for their eventual torture and summary executions due to doing all that first. They're precedent setters, and bad ones at that!

No, it's an evolved mechanism if I've ever seen one. Charles Dawkins talks about it in his book, The Selfish Gene in a chapter dealing with WWI. We don't escalate all at once, just in dribs and drabs to try and preserve life as much as possible on both sides of genetically similiar lines. Hell up to now, if LT. Grossman is correct, most soldiers aimed to miss. Nowadays, we don't due to the constant use of combat simulations and video games and actual bloodthirst (See embed for a detailed explanation). It's an entente, and these fucks are about to open an exploding can of whoop-ass on themselves by breaking it!

You mean talking on the internet. That's what we always do.

settle down grandpa

Are you local? We only need 10/20 people max to do this. I can bring one to two others for vetting. Organization is absolutely key, and we have to start networking IRL, LARPing is all well and good, and we can show up just fine, but I want to see absolute superiority over these scum.

Killer thread OP, not much to add other than i've never realized how much I needed to learn how to sling.

when do we get to see this old fuck beaten to death?

Memes as a form of communication sounds good to me. A little unpredictable on whether all other groups will pick up on them to actually do what we need them to.

I really wish we had a more organized group so we could actually use some shield formations and old school battle tactics. I really want to get that intimidating impact that an organized group can portray when they know what they are doing.

Because I think that maybe the most demoralizing and intimidating thing of all for Antifa when it comes to an actual fight. Group Cohesion.

Learning Self Defense is also best bet against them. Efficient and effective maneuvers to incapacitate your enemy. Nothing flashy.

it's just a naked woman with a gun. shut up

God damn, I can't wait for the riot near me. I want to go Roman on these scum.
Buy list:
COME ON LET'S GET THIS STARTED
INTERCONTINENTAL RACE WAR NOW

why do I still come here

I'd rather something that can deflect a blow a bit better that thin as fuck sheet metal because yes they are going to toss stuff at you but don't forget about those with melee weapons. Hell with an extra bit of weight you could easily floor one of them with a good whump.

IE and the Proud Boys were doing a great job, we also had 50 Oathkeepers and such from what I heard. Approaches were visibly varied, with people differing on how far they were willing to go, as well as a few non-violents who were getting in the way. That all becomes a non issue when you have an organized and prepared, well drilled and disciplined fighting force, then you can use the rest of the protesters as a distraction. Imagine Antifa hearing the order to assume formation, and then charge, they'll shit themselves.

We need to establish a protocol of immediately getting on anyone who tries to pull somebody off, even if it means low grade violence to keep them in line.

These faggots don't get to be the moral police, there are no moral police now, only miles of dead antifa in the future.

They can't protect from everyone all the time. That's another good reason to spread dox on all the higher ups like Open Society, some random tard could cause huge amounts of inconvenience and money wasted on security.

This shit gets used to much out of context and can plainly be refuted. If a weak horse kicks a strong horse in the head and kills it, people still prefer strong horses because of how they look. Are you going to argue that bluepilled normalfags on average support LGBT because it is the "strong horse"? Even though the LGBT portrays itself as a "weak horse" suffering under the oppression of "strong horse" heteronormative bullying and fag bashing?

Agreed. Escalation of weapons they can respond to. There isn't much they can do against a superior group that has more teamwork, with growing support.

Piece of shit like this need their heads fucked-in with hammers.

Reasonably priced, free shipping, plenty of them available.
http: //www.ebay.com/itm/Transparent-PC-Hand-held-Shield-Police-SWAT-Riot-Shield-For-Security-Protection-/311818270173?var=&hash=item4899d135dd:m:mnyLXyhxy3VQVTepPgA2cRw

Nigger don't use shitty swimming goggles, they will just pop your eye with a punch. Get scientist chemistry goggles thingies.

Good find. I like the smaller round shields more than the larger scutum type. But they both have their uses.

Lads, I just found this shit.

If you faggots in the front lines got formations and ranks rolling, you could also roll with pairing off.

Make your own homemade slingshots. You can go to a home depot or some shit for pvc pipe, therapy bands (stretchy and durable), among other shit. You can probably find metal balls or whatever else to use and ammo up with from various stores. Watch "Sling Shot Channel "sometime.

I think I'm getting one of each. Free shipping. I'll loan the other one out if I don't need it

Lads, another one.
He is also one of us.

HDPE is good but for the common man wood will be much more accessible and lighter if you get the right kind of wood.
Also I highly doubt anything Antifa will throw at you (punches, kicks, rocks maybe a flagpole or dowel) will be able to break a piece of plywood or a couple of boards screwed together so don't go too crazy on the thickness. Being maneuverable is important for a shield otherwise it's just dead weight tied to your arm ready to be pulled around by the enemy.

If you DO intend to carry a shield, carry a small baton (just a couple of inches of heavy wood) or something to smack at people with from behind the shield otherwise with no range and one hand busy with the shield you will be easily outmaneuvered. Stickman's first stick is wayy too long and from the video you can see is very hard to maneuver, he has range but in closer quarters he's fucked. A more medium to short length stick that is easily usable with one hand would be better.

Also OP forgot to mention one important thing HELMETS+EYE PRO +EAR PRO
LEATHER GLOVES (better if sap gloves or knuckle cap work gloves)
Sturdy clothing and Forearm armor I think would be important armor considering how you many need to block many blows with your arms.

If you're an extreme poorfag then you can use a coin pouch with a strap or something so it stays in your palm to give your punches some extra oomph.

In that case you will be prepared for shield walls and skirmishes.

I like to go paintballing and I see it happen all the time. Random teams are made, we go out on the field on our sides, and then a few experienced paintballers or veterans start organizing squads and tactics, and people are willing to listen. This is what will happen on the patriot side. If you've seen some Antifa discussion on Reddit, they're still arguing over how much leadership they need on the battle field, if any, or if leadership violates their anarchist principles. In other words, the free speech patriot types WILL rally behind some smart Veterans. Antifa will squabble over leadership.

These guys are shit zombie apocalypse larpers and are idiots, more likely to hurt themselves than do anything useful.

I think you're on to something.

I desperately want to see a well drilled phalanx carve the hippies up.

Watch the video nigger. They might be LARPers but the armor they make is effective, especially the 30$ body vest (protects you from shotgun ammo an 9mm). Stop being a judgmental faggot. Also he taunts libs in the body armor video.

What are you even doing here?

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Can't speak to what they are because I don't waste time on yt without a reason, but back before tv and movies had jumped the shark, zombie shit was just young people into survivalism.

some of us are just tired of these lowlevel non-happenings that the enemy can easily de-escalate (ex: BLM after the nigger shot up the cops in texas)

Satan'd

His weapon build vids are awesome, like this one, he makes a club that's light, fast and splits bones apart.

are they going to go to the police to complain about property damages???

This is stupid. Heavy, complex to make, and not designed for the kinds of threats you're facing. If you're concerned about stabs, a stab vest is made to defend against that - look into the stuff people in the prisons use. If you're trying to up your resistance against blunt force trauma, motorcycle pads are going to be cheap, light, reliable, and COMFORTABLE, which matters most of all because gear you don't wear isn't going to protect you. Proper chainmail, like the shark suits, are also a legitimate tool. Plastering diamond plate over your chest is going to leave you hot, tired, and dehydrated while they run circles around you.

Look at the Maidan in Ukraine, the fighting there was intense and of the kind that we're looking at with ANTIFA until the the firearms get broken out, which requires a whole different approach than dealing with street riots. Look at the gear the cops use, the gear corrections facilities use. This isn't a joke, they will kill you if they get half a chance. Get real gear, learn what the hell you're doing, and come home alive. If you want to stop a shotgun or a 9mm get a surplus police vest for ~$60. It's lighter, covers more, and is more reliable. The first thing I thought when I saw /ourguys/ in gladiator helmets and capes is pic related. Play dress up on your own time, but if you're going to put yourself in harms way, stop treating it as a joke and start acting like you're going to war.

there is no such thing as a safe projectile weapon, especially a sling jesus christ

if you dome someone, they're done for

that said, i propose passing out cola cans en masse to retaliate against antifa projectiles

Stephan Molyneux was right to say the USA is starting to look like Wiemar Germany. Your politics and events will be shut down unless you defend your event. Remember how Soros (and other unnamed groups) destabilized the Ukraine.

RULES OF ENGAGEMENT
ON THE USE OF FORCE PRINCIPALS:
Force is allowed when defending oneself, one's family, friends and brothers, and one's property. ANTIFA must be the instigators, and front line cameras must be present to detail the escalation of force in self-defense.
APPROPRIATE FORCE
All force must be appropriate in the amount of force used against the pro-trump crowd.
EX: do not bring knife to fist fight.

ANTIFA burns down property and turns the local business owners and motorists against them. The Trump supporters must not burn down property or vandalize except, in an EXTREME event, to barricade a street against the mob.

If the police stand back and let the mob have at each other, then one must rely on ones self and ones fellow trump supporter.

INTELLIGENCE:
Trump supporters brought armor and improvised crowd control tools.
THIS WAS BECAUSE YOU WERE WARNED IN ADVANCE ANTIFA WAS BUYING WEAPONS FROM HOMEDEPOT.
Also the crowd knew what to expect from previous protests. Infiltrate antifa or investigate their publications when possible, enlist *internet savvy* people to take a *deep look* into their operations.

SOCIAL MEDIA AND JUSTIFIED USE OF FORCE:
Verbal Awareness:
Most protests will have media present, pro-free-speech/trump. Be aware. If someone is throwing rocks, it is good to shout what they threw in-case the camera didn't show it. Say "Stop throwing rocks" "stop assaulting me" "you hit him in the head assholes" so the crowd is aware of what is going on, situational awareness is key. And increasing the awareness of your crowd is the best way to win. (But do not count on dimwits or pacifists, or lone wolfs to help you).
By shouting out what has been thrown to cameras the time of escalation can be recorded, giving you better justification to use force in self-defense should legal measures be brought against you.
Bring buddies. DO NOT PROTEST ALONE.

Right now. The FreeSpeech crowd has the support of law (for whatever that was worth on apr15), and the support of property owners. Do not lose it, you want to save the city and keep your party in place, do not sack or pillage, and do not promote it. You want to win the hearts of the people, and you want there to be a city left so you can remove the cancer.

FIND THE BUSES, as you may know Soros and the DNC lobbyists pay for the buses. Find the bus rental or bus driver company and press charges for driving protesters to a riot. Mark cars (and get plates) with noticeable antifa protesters exiting. Putting pressure on bus companies, motorists, and hired rides will reduce critical mass of antifa. I have intelligence that shows protesters were brought in from Chicago and Boston.

IDENTIFY, MARK, UNMASK:
My last suggestion, is to use paint projectiles or eggs to MARK, ANTIFA protesters. As the black block can be identified, simple colored projectiles can mark ANTIFA protesters and they can be identified, which is what they fear most since many of them are low-tier perverts.

FIND THE LEADERS:
Antifa has a set of leaders, they will be alpha females for the cucks and alpha males for non-cucks. Direct reporters/filmographers to find the leadership of anti-fa within the crowd.

ON GENDER-QUEER LEADERS:
Anti-fa is recruiting enmass the genderqueers who have been brainwashed by the system and internet. It is typically the older, transitioned genderqueer who leaders them or the cis-gendered female. I would look for an older lesbian, extremely degenerate homosexual (see leathermen), or a cis-gendered female with high far-left status (porn star, ex-Mormon, ex-catholic, muslim, teacher). They are high quality targets for identification.

The LGBT centers in your urban community are recruiting centers for protesters and dens for buying sex drugs, should you be able to infiltrate them you will discover some of their plans. However they will have an upper-tier leadership program for LBGT leaders and these will be the protester mob organizers. These programs are led by powerlesbians and former gay-bar henchmen (gay bars had strong connections with mafia [sometimes run by foreign intelligence agency] and the communists blackmail rings before being legalized, the mafia never let go of their gay bar racket, and now use them to deal sex drugs)

My autism, my bad.

http:// www.bladerunner.tv

Nigger, you can'tjust kill jews without some sort of backing or cohesion. Lemmings will follow 10% of the ppopulation into the fed. You ssplit your country's numbers by patriot vs scum, and all you have to do is act the leader who knows what he's doing in front of 10% of the patriots. They will then follow you into Goldstein's office and believe he is the cause of it all. "Yeah, he looks like that Soros guy, user is probably right! He funded those scum!"

Then let's COME ON LET'S GET THIS STARTED.
That was a get for a reason, user.
YEAR OF THE FIRE COCK

This, with the amount of time + money invested in building armor you might as well buy riot gear, sports gear or military gear depending on the situation.
It will be better built and a better use of your time, the home made shit may be 'cheaper' but costs much more in time and time=money.

The only thing I think you possibly could reliably make yourself (assuming average guy with home hand tools) is a decent weapon that is concealable and plausibly deniable enough to evade police.

There we go, that's the kind of stuff I'm talking about.

breddy gud.

Any thoughts on disabling buses to strand them as a tactic to draw light to the astroturfing?

Wear would I get one like Stickman wears?

I suggest thinking about ways to either upgrade existing sticks/shields to add electric stun effect, or design standalone devices.
High voltage devices are extremely cheap, and can be very effective. Like, the discharge from a high-voltage capacitor no bigger than your hand could cause serious heart and nerve problems (I don't necessarily endorse high-lethality, I'm just saying that's how good electricity is at putting people out of action).
Also, electric shocks are practically untraceable, don't leave any marks, and can't be seen on camera (unless it's a huge spark, but that would be unnecessary for this purpose). And they're easy to disguise as flashlights and walking canes, some commercial models even come like that.

Some inspiration:
youtube.com/watch?v=u8vb6vZl7mU
youtube.com/watch?v=nmHDe3xSLK0

(btw some of the commercial devices list voltages that are far higher than they actually are, I imagine most things are within the 20kV to 60kV range of voltage)

also I bump this
because rules of engagement are really important

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pretty sure the model he wears is called "NIKE BREAKOUT BATTING HELMET" search online for that

sorry for pasting youtube links into post, I'm not the best at Holla Forums and don't know how to embed youtube videos

Nigger, do you want that timeline or not? It's the quickest realistic way to gas the kikes and race war now.
Do you have a quicker plan?

Well, I was ready to do Federal Reserve protests because I thought we had more time and it might make the kikes draw attention to themselves, but after trumps statements about them and yellen, I'm not so sure.

that's where you're wrong, kiddo :^)

assasinate the jews and the (((hwites))) like (((nill gates)))

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Your idea is terrible though, pls lurk more.

Correct. Need to up the violence until people on both sides are being killed. Polarization is good for us.

Linseed oil in the gastank. Franklin Armory did tests and found out this shits up the engine fastest and cheapest, or use Ammonium Nitrogen Tri-iodide sealed in dessicant containers like this guy makes at 6:00 popped in to the gastank, it explodes in 20 minutes due to drying out and becoming so unstable the slightest touch or knock sets it off.

ok figured out how to use links embeds
reposting previous two videos here and a new one.

I like the way you think, but I feel a lot of people in this thread are getting caught up on having the best possible gear. Making cost effective gear is more important than making fancy crap. We're all individualists here, and our numbers will never be a faceless mob like antifa. Slings, wooden shields, and bike helmets work because they're CHEAP and readily accessible.

Your alternative is good due to low cost, but anything beyond those would be a bad route.

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buses would be diesel and my point is to make them not be able to leave, not breakdown out of town and away from cameras or have a shorter service life.

That's a really good idea, but I just did a little googling and they're around 25" in diameter, which is a little small for my tastes. Can we maybe branch out and try to find a 30-36" diameter one?

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sorry I can't figure out how to embed multiple videos and any tutorial is in 404'd threads

What, build Right Wing Ninja Squads and kill every Jew on the face of the planet that way? That would take an unreasonable amount of time and cohesion.

I say we still do the Fed protests. Hell, it might even spark something real if Antifa show up.

Fuck off, Jew.

Speaking of leaders, anyone spot alex soros in any videos/pictures? I know he's a student at berkeley and may be the type that wants to prove himself by being close to the action.

Whatsa matta you? You no think I'ma real Italian, ah? Marone.

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Lol I'm not exactly "native" in that I've only been part of Holla Forums for a few years(blame gamergate), but I'm not a shill. There's been a steady influx of us fags over time. Don't turn away allies who have been redpilled.

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lurk moar

We are though, compared to any other people in the world.

An old Spartan proverb; "Only a coward fights from afar, a man fights up close. (so he can get close to his enemy.)"

this
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Who cares about PR again?

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The only issue is slingshots are easily identified as a weapon. A simple cord much less so. Slingshots are easy to conceal, absolutely. But deniability is important, and a simple sling cord has that advantage over a slingshot.

Not knocking it. It's a good weapon as well. But I think slings are the best option here.

Slings can kill people fam. Just letting you know.

Here's what I'd get, in order of most important to least important.

1) Skateboard helmet. Cheap, lightweight, cool, and effective against the kind of threats you're facing. Doesn't mess with visibility, doesn't look "tacticool" to cops.

2) Goggles. Protects from pepper spray and fragments. Here's a set that are milsurp. amazon.com/10350-Genuine-Wind-Dust-Goggles/dp/B0017GUB8M/ref=sr_1_3?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1492401123&sr=1-3&keywords=military+goggles

3) Hydration carrier. Staying hydrated lets you stay in the fight, plus it protects your back and gives you a place to carry first aid and tendies. Lots of options here.

4) Gloves, with a nod towards the gloves with lead in the knuckles.

5) Good boots, and steel toed boots give you a covert weapon that can do a lot of damage.

6) Motorcycle armor. My research suggests the stuff designed for dirt bikes is going to give better coverage than the stuff for street wear. Try to find a local shop and try it on before you buy it. A removable back protector will make it lighter and more comfortable. Don't forget your legs.

7) Shield. I still shill for aluminum, but for most people something premade and designed for police and riot use will do better than anything you can build at home, unless you know what you're doing.

8) Slash resistant kevlar clothes, either from bladerunner. tv or anywhere else that sells something similar. Kevlar also protects against flame fairly well and won't melt to flesh. Nomex base layers would be a great thing to have if they pick up their use of incindiaries, since some stuff like the motorcycle armor is unavoidably plastic.

For a weapon, there's all sorts of stuff you can do, just remember to think about how it would look to a jury. Pepper spray is great for this as well, but bring a bunch. The sling is something I'll definitely be looking into. Know your local laws and rules on use of force.

Goal isn't "safe". It's high effectiveness, while having a low chance of lethality and excellent deniability. A sling bullet to the head can kill someone, but so too can a thrown bottle or metal lock. They have used them against us, so a sling is an appropriate countermeasure.

Anyways, that's why I advised smaller bullets than the typical 1" stones you saw historically. A smaller bullet will likely not penetrate enough to break bones or kill, but will hurt like a bitch and demoralize.

But when they're throwing m80s and metal at you, does it really matter?

Why not lure them in and drop marbles on the ground so they slip?

The people who were there need to file formal complaints with the FBI or else they won't do anything.

So, is the next riot confirmed set for Auburn Uni, Alabama?

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So can thrown metal. Antifa will kill if they can get away with it. But slings are comparable to thrown locks and rocks in terms of damage they can inflict. A large sling bullet is an escalation because that shit will very likely kill on impact, but smaller 1/4" to 1/8" stones and bullets will likely not kill.

The biggest determinant of danger is the size of the round. They're trying to kill us, though. This is a decent countermeasure.

just get some decent ski goggles

As we are aware, many of the antifa are mentally unstable. More so, since they recruiting mentally ill queers. Who knows if they will escalate the violence next time, I would not underestimate what Soros is capable of doing to destabilize the USA and Western Civilization.

Remember the Ukraine, the false flag tactic of making the shooters look like pro-government paramilitaries. Watch out for false flags blaming trump protesters.

I suggest using paint balls, thrown or sprayed somehow (long range). DO NOT use a paintball gun (as it can be mistaken for real firearms). Use paint to mark the violent protesters and the firecracker throwers. Once their black shirts are painted they will stand out.

Could even use a color code.

Red for violent fist fighters.
Orange for explosive throwers.
So on.

When the smoke bomb went off a Berkley I wonder what that might of resorted to had the smoke blown the other way.

Only problem there is if you get caught behind enemy lines you're fucked.

I was thinking of going for the MCP2 gas masks, but those would break in confrontations, right?

I'm not sure how it would be done effectively, and it's expense would make it only a meme worthy weapon.

But it would be funny as fuck if one of them got hit in the face with some sort of superglue water balloon to the face. The autistic screeching as they try to wipe it off only to fucking get their hands and shirts stuck to their face would be fucking amazing.

motocross goggles > ski. not as hot

Paintballs in slings would be damn effective at demoralization while having zero lethality…

This could be something for the black block disguised guys. Infiltrate their group, drop ball bearings and caltrops everywhere.

Maybe use some smoke grenades too, to block their vision so you can escape.

This idea is beautiful in simplicity and effect. Humiliation will make antifa grow more enraged leading to dumb errors.

THIS

Yes, break and fog. Proper goggles and an N95 respirator will protect you from pepper spray and CS gas.

Brilliant! I'm going to buy a bag of paintballs and a sling and try that this weekend.

Let me tell you something about homos, they hate each other, no joke, there's this massive divide between the Leathermen and the nu-male faggots waiting to boil over. The former are all about toughness and macho image. Public floggings, black leather, fistfights, owning weaker homos as servants, doing fucked up bets and drinking foul booze as a test of courage, you name it. And if there's one thing they despise it's these neutered cucks trying to cut their balls and shame them into throwing away their leather. They hate each other, but the only reason they aren't fighting each other is because the cucks run away once the first punch is thrown. Seriously, after the left dumped them for niggers, they began an interest in Raceplay, as in I'm a superior Aryan Male and you nigger are my servant and Inferior. It's funny as hell watching a nigger defer naturally to a white homo. Fucking hell.

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These are probably a good size for what we're aiming for. They're much lighter than larger stones typical of ancient soldiers, but still dense enough to pack a punch.

Also, sorry for all the fucking thread spam. I'm saging all my replies cause I'm not a fucking faggot, but effortposting pretty hard here.

Good idea, since they would have different patches of paint on their black outfits it would make it easier to find out which antifa does what crime

Nice idea. Paint those black canvas queers bright and vibrant!

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Using paintballs also accounts for what was saying since they can't be picked up and then re-used against you.

Instead of using marbles as weapons, use them for evasion. Instead, buy some hollow glass balls like the ones used in snowglobes and christmas ornaments and use those instead. They shatter on impact, so the can't be reused, and the can be filled with nasty shit. Think of it like adult water balloons.

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Typing too fast.

What about motocross helmets or motorcycle helmets?

revzilla.com/motocross-helmets

they're pretty bulky / heavy. i'd go for an openface with goggles and gasmask

That sounds like a damn good idea, but I don't know what you're talking about. Can you link some examples?

I personally don't like the visor or the chinpiece on a motorcycle helmet (chinpiece because it gives someone something to grab that gives them control over your head and neck - a big no in a fight.) They're also heavier and, IMO, restrict your view more. Probably somewhat better protection against facial impacts or pepper spray, worse against CS gas. They also cost more.

Fucking low tech plebians.
You are stuck in the 1980s with your Doc Martins and ineffectual street marches.

Think of those christmas ornaments that are hollow balls that you hang up on trees. You can remove the hook piece and fill it with something nasty, cover the hole and fire it via sling.

Our doctrine is using shields to protect against ranged attacks while closing the gap to engage with our superior melee units. It also helps from an image standpoint because
1. It's cool as fuck and resonates with whites culturally, reestablishing their connection to their ancestors and reawakening the warrior spirit. I already see people adopting Spartan and Roman iconography.
2. It's great from a photo-op/PR perspective because it shows us as patriotic defenders and them as the bolshevik instigators, to use a lefty term it also helps to "other" them in the minds of the normie onlookers.
3. It opens a whole world of tried and true tactics, and having a bunch of guys drumming intimidatingly on their shields with flagpoles or whatever in unison will make the enemy piss their pants (riot cops already do this).

Pic related is an artists rendition of the ultimate photo op, a level of iconic photograph of our struggle on the level of the Tienanmen square dude. A red-blooded American defending a cowering civilian (preferably female or mother/child) against commie molotovs/bricks/etc with their shield. After all, our goal IS to defend the West and we ARE the last defenders of Christendom.

Nice quads of automated warfare.

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Smaller than I'd like but it works.

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Little better. And christmas ornaments should be easy. What about light bulbs?

Oh. I know what you're talking about now. Those are way too weak to handle the acceleration of a sling though. They'd disintegrate in the sling.

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Shh we're not at that stage yet we're still going feudal. Plus that's expensive to lose and not nearly as fun as bashing in commie skulls.

You know, something like that could be staged by a propaganda team.

Reminds me of Jack Donovan. Some guy I went to high school with is a "bear" and also matches this description somewhat.

Another idea are solid glass balls, but idk if we want to use those yet.

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Maybe if they start throwing molotovs/heavy rocks.

They could be good for frontline defense teams with towershields, Helmets that don't have the jaw jut out are good.

It's just a tragic failure to utilize a ubiquitous technology.
I guarantee that lots of the protesters have drones of various sizes at home.
They can be brought into the fight for behind-the-line surveillance, harassment and area denial.
Decent ones have space on the controller for extra servos to be connected, which can be used to release pepper spray, paint, caltrops, dog or human shit and water mixed into a slurry, propaganda leaflets etc.

I don't know why I'm contributing to this because the whole thing reeks of state involvement and conspiracy to commit murder.
But anyway, giving the benefit of the doubt:
Don't use a sling, use a ChuckIt! dog launcher.

I was thinking the same but I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with lying outright like that.

Light bulbs make great paint bombs and molotovs. Paint is our ally here, I'd use hot, neon pink to mark antifa, or make paint grenades to throw into the crowd of commies using this guide!

Drones for surveillance and reconnaissance would be great though. Even just for video capturing the battlefield for evidence.

For real professional crowd control, you would need recon guys and signals they can send out. Just a guy with a good vantage point and a whistle if you're going low tech. High tech would be earpieces and a drone operator watching and sending out commands.

if you want full face protection go for one like this.
https:// www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/fly-luxx-helmet-solid
great for head butting commies and leaving their broken noses spewing blood. That will intimidate them

You can just switch ammo from paintballs to stones and other debris on the ground if it gets to that point.

For now we're dealing with small, disorganized groups of untrained people - their organization is better than ours. There's no "shield walls" that are likely to be formed beyond 2-5 man teams working in concert. By the time we get to actual organization and networking, we're going to be getting closer to DYAFTB which requires completely different planning and tactics.

Lots of possibility for blowback if we're caught fabricating things and it's run on CNN 24/7.

We're only talking tactics of hypothetical riots here. Conspiracy to commit murder would be plotting to kill specific targets. Just talking in generalities is not illegal or conspiracy.

G20 Lessons
Study how the police and Harper shut down the black bloc in Toronto at the G20.

For example, the GOV shut down the protests early by infiltrating them with violent agent provocateurs, some of which are BAD inner city cops, or ex-cop private security types. One police car was left to bait them into wrecking it.

So my suggestion would be to leave a vehicle typical of their stereotype of regular right-wingers, a hic-ville truck, with lots of trump stickers or pro-trump paint, stars and stripes front to back. Leave it in their path then goto event. It is likely they will set it on fire, smash windows, or flip it.

Finding Protesters Transportation
You only need a picture of protesters leaving the bus,van, or car, with their gear (backpack). If you have a radio, you can mark the location of the bus, this is where they will fall back to. If the engagement is in a urban area with a subway or good bus service, you will not see buses. If you arrive 4 hours early, you will be able to find them leaving public transit without masks on. You do NOT need to sabotage the buses, you merely need to get the COMPANY and the BUS number and PLATE. Then you can get LEGAL action and get in on the ALEX JONES show. or whatever else you like to make propaganda with.

You DO NOT want to back ANTIFA into a corner, leave them an escape, animals backed into corners do savage things.

WARNING: Foreign Agents Get involved at big protests
I am saying this to ANYONE in a country with large protests, if this whole thing turns into Wiemar Germany shit.
Any large protest makes your nations enemies and allies (who want to make sure you stay allies) wet their lips at regime change. Russia is probably stroking off right now, thinking of ways to use this to their favor. At critical levels foreign intelligence gets involved to cuck your government and frame riots into their favor. Some of them will encourage you to do stupid things to discredit yourself. If you let them succeed they will cuck your new leaders. I really don't have any advice here, don't let things escalate. Try to make wins and deescalate and discredit antifa.

Do not give any government an excuse to justify increasing police state measures to protect the baby boomers. As soon as they flip the censorship tech switch on, WHICH THEY HAVE, you have lost. Win the people over with justified actions and protesters of high virtue and noble actions.

MSM: OMG senseless violence between the mobs.
GOVT: Gov't to the rescue!
*Spy on citizens bill approved.
*Tank police approved.
*GPS Microchip citizen trackers approved.
*Raises for all security organizations.

IMO Berkeley is the exception, not the norm you will see with police response. You may expect similar stand-down response in Chicago rallys.

yeah this board is fucked

This.
If you want to be effective as a group, you need a commander overlooking the field with binoculars/ binocs + drone and a police or sports whistle and prearranged signals.
Without signals you can't operate as a cohesive unit.
Marking a target then signalling to attack or grab, with your 5 -10 strongest guys rushing forward in a snatch squad.
This is how British cops fuck up demonstrators.
They snatch the leaders and drag them behind police lines, after identifying the target.
This is where antifa have an advantage, they wear black to make target designation more difficult.
"Grab the guy all in black" is more difficult than "grab the guy with the winged helmet and flag draped over him like a cape."
Guys in black can be marked with paint or a laser.

Meh. We're just looking for options. I think slings + paintballs seems to be the best option so far…which reminds me. I saw a thing on homemade pepper balls a while back. It could be interesting to make stink bomb paintballs by using a syringe to empty the paint and replace it with a stinky substance. High demoralization, 0 lethality. These seem to be the best route for fighting back against antifa.

Bamp.

Yes, we seriously need to start detaining their leaders. Likewise, we need uniforms of our own, or at least try to blend in as much as possible.

And considering that slings can be made out of easy to grab household shit, I'd surmise those that also end up needing a walking stick, if they rigged it, should have a walking sling stick

That could work for demoralization and humiliation. But you don't need to always play nice.

Going the nonlethal route is one thing, but just remember that they are out to kill you if they can. Defend yourself at all costs.
If you want to be a PR fag that is. Like I said, defend yourself. Expect things to get ugly.

You missed , it seems you are the fucked one faggot

Is that a SS helmet?

Well, this is how it was done a few years ago.
Perhaps a bit much, but some level of discipline, signals and rules IS needed.

there was one further up. Id rather a modern helmet (they fit so good) with Black Sun decals on either side

muh nigga, pure fun to shoot

If you faggots are going to be larping and basically just virtual signaling while poking each other with sticks while the cops laugh at you like 12 year old retards that have never fought before, you might as well go LARPINg in a SS Helmet you massive faggot.

Yes, that is Fall Oak B on it, aka an SS pattern. It isn't a repro either.

If you want to construct such a device you better figure out those MGTOWs.

Because those objects weigh more than the platforms in those pictures.

you're the dumb cunt who suggested it.

We also have the issue of legality. We can't do a snatch and grab on their leadership without being dangerously close to kidnapping and unlawful detention charges. Beating up people who are a direct threat to us and are attacking us is one thing, having snatch teams grab them and take them prisoner (even for handoff to the police) is different. PR aside, we have to keep our anons out of jail and encourage the police to view us as the good guys/innocent victims defending themselves to the extent possible - the media is a lost cause, but the police are not. That's the brilliance of the slings with paintballs coupled with armoring and shielding up, since a well armored and shielded person should be able to resist their throwing rocks and fireworks without much risk.

PR is important on these, from two angles. The first and most important is that we have to win every engagement to demoralize them completely, but secondly we have to respond with proportionate force (for now, until they escalate, and they will) to stay legal. If we're only acting within self-defense law, we're going to be able to keep our people out of prison and on the streets. If we whip out the guns first and mow them down, a bunch of us will go to jail, and Soros will have his "Maidan snipers" moment. Antifa can't become a sympathetic group to the normalfags. This is also why the TD retards dressing in American flags and yelling MAGA is great for us, since they look far less threatening to normalfags than cunts in all black wearing masks. Win the battles, and look like American Heros doing it, and we will maintain our propaganda success.

The reason that we don't have to worry about PR is that we have the truth on our side, and we are the ones fighting for what is Right. That, we have to maintain, even when we deal with antifa.

Why let Antifa come to you when you should go to them?

There are way more ways to kill a person before even resorting to firearms. You should know mankind has been killing eachother long since before the invention of ye olde boom stick. The other thing to keep in mind is that the (((lugenpresse))) is going to paint the maga people in whatever image they see fit, including going as far as manufacturing and careful edits to piece out whatever schlock they're trying to give. What I'm trying to get at is, Don't be afraid to kill out of self defense.

I'm all for bashing leftists heads in. But what is this all going to solve? If you guys are just looking for a good time then by all means, but this thread is some cringe arm chair general shit.

Just curious, what is this going to accomplish?

>EVIL NAZIS THROW PISS FILLED WATER BALLOONS AT PROTESTORS

No kidding.

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The only right answer

Sure, but self-defense has a very specific legal meaning, and it doesn't include slings from a distance, or killing someone who isn't a threat to your survival. If there's an antifag with a knife, then you're completely legal to kill it, but if they're just trying to brawl you and you pull a real weapon, you'll be spending some time in club nig.

And see under what circumstances it's justifiable.

Yeah, but as long as there's no-one dying the normies will only pay attention to who is winning, and they'll probably find it funny that gommies are getting soaked with piss. If we give them a body to parade around, we're facing a different kind of PR war. Plus, if we go there, we HAVE to win the trial because the chimpouts will be epic. Trayvon squared. God I miss the Trayvon days.

Hi antifa

Can be spun a lot worse than "piss".

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I'm certainly not proposing we give them a martyr. They need to burn the Reichstag before we can escalate.

But user have you not heard of RWSS?
Reporting violations and using firehouses to save lives and at least get them to bath.

You need to break your enemy, you need to eliminate the places where you enemy feels safe. You need to show enemy how worthless they are and how scared they should be. Once then you have completely defeated your enemy, consolidation merely becomes a simple trigger pulling exercise.

This is pretty good.

Stab Vests
I am worried about the knives we saw among ANTIFA. I suspect it is the ISLAMIST and BLM groups who used knives among the black bloc. I do not think motorcycle armor is a good stab vest. But if knives become common with antifa stab vests are required. They HAD knives, I do not recall them using them.

I also suggest that ANTIFA has a partnership with criminal organizations, there is alot of overlap between crime and ANTIFA. For example, ANTIFA is involved in prostitution and porn. I KNOW THIS. Many of them have been GROOMED, for this behavior. It might even be possible to find them using underage queers for porn and sex crimes, WHICH WE KNOW IS THEIR AGENDA, YOU JUST NEED EVIDENCE.

((The hormone blockers also stop puberty, stunt growth, which is the point, to make the western population look like kids at 25 so you can't tell if they're a kid at 14, this is their pedo legalization agenda. ))

Direct your filming better, LEVEL UP
Filming the biggest distraction allows them to commit crimes and antagonism behind your back. They set off the M-80s, then flanked from other direction or threw brick from another, *but* all the cameras were on the explosive! Have cameramen show more discipline, you need regular camera men, the film crews who showed up wanted to show the biggest SHTF to up their views. DO NOT DO THIS.

MOST IMPORTANT THING
Typical Antifa Tactic
When you get into an augment with ANTIFA, this is when they strike.
When you are debating them this is when they are striking, when they insult someone show profoundly and show you no dignity, this is when they strike.
But all the film crews are pointing the cameras at the argument then the brick, pop can, water bottle, piss bottle, bike lock, stick or knife comes out.

Also when the fucking crowd charged forward the film crew stayed behind, I can't find shit on the networks about what happened to the front line. When the crowd charges, the armored cameras crews need the charge HARDER. Even if you plan to do them something and don't want cameras, I assure you THEY will have cameras of their own.

this post made me cringe. Are you people shills or leftists trying to gaslight the """alt-right""" into becoming a violent movement?

Don't fall for this shit, anons. This is how the FBI stops movements for the last 60+ years. The girl is a porn whore, she could have even taken the punch to get us behind their controlled opposition. Theres always more to things than what we can see

But ANTIfaggots are a very small group and their paid by soros/kikes. They probably want you to beat them. Going after people like Soros is much more productive.

Everything you subhuman piece of shit. Leftists have been attacking and bashing our heads in since the French revolution and I bet you wonder why the Right can't organize in the real world. Owning the streets, killing and demoralizing your enemy with violence is THE prerequisite to real world organization.

Why? They've been burning the Reichstag for fucking decades. Stop with this passive bullshit already.

No it's not. None of you can see the Forrest through the trees. The only way you solve anything is by dragging people like Soros/Rothschild/Rockefeller any high profile kikes including race traitors outside of their homes and killing them. It wouldn't even be that hard if you had enough people.

But go ahead and think beating some dumb faggots in hoodies that are paid by Soros are going to do anything.

Look at f6416c's post history, he's obviously either an idiot or a shill. We absolutely need to own the streets, and now we have the momentum and the numbers to do it.

Very good points on the filming. Do you have any suggestions for how frontline anons can film and fight at the same time? Body cameras are shaky as hell.

Any crowd control methods?

Violence solves everything you turd

This.

Mommy he has a different opinion then me! waaahhhhhhhhhh

To own the "streets" you have to be vocal and get followers. You're not going to get anybody by sperging out and hitting antifaggots with paintballs.

They need to horrify the public so that we can offer ourselves to the public as the solution.

Oh, so you've been tracking down the megakike himself?

If not then your PR fagging is useless, Holla Forums is a board of peace. I actually know two cops from the military, but they're more TRS though. I wish no harm to them as well as this great state, they know if Antifa wins where they're families will be. It's about hearts and minds and there still is a majority white population in this country.

You won't be doing any of that when some antifa goons drag YOU from YOUR home and kill YOU.

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Right so how are you going to win hearts and minds with hitting people with paintballs? Just giving you faggots some constructive criticism here. You need a leader, more than anything. But people like Rockwell I guess don't really exist anymore. Too many low T males that played too many video games. Sad really.

user antifaggots will never do that. If that day comes (and it probably will) it's going to be police/ private mercenaries.

Antifa tend to just set houses on fire and even then they can't get that right.

Stand up then.

Or drive a car bomb through it
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Blowguns disguised as flag poles. There's videos out there of guys taking down wild boar with blowguns. The larger ones have a pretty effective range. They're very easy to make at home as are the darts. Just add a small flag to the end of one and there's you're concealment. Maybe bring a friend with a second flag pole to store ammo. There's a lot of videos on YouTube on how to make them. Not that hard. I've toyed with hunting small game with them in the past and they're pretty second nature.

Do you prefer a hairy ass, faggot?

Two words:
PLAUSIBLE
DENIABILITY
If you can't explain why you'd have it when walking down the street on a normal day, don't have it on your person when shit gets hairy. Not every place is as lawless as Berkeley. I think antifa does this better; many of them came in wielding things like skateboards and bike locks. Not the best weapons but easy to explain if they get stopped.

Easy to improvise something similar. Paper (phone books, newspaper), tape, small ceramic tiles, tape. It's not going to feel nice but it should evenly distribute any impact force across your whole torso.
Probably best to wear under a loose garment, like a hockey jersey or oversized sweatshirt.

Worked decently for the gommie partisans in Venezuela. I remember them a couple years back roving through the streets shooting at anything in sight.

I think demoralization "weapons" along these lines are effective. Less likely to get you in trouble with the law and less likely to get you dragged into a scrap if you hit people with it. Imagine the smell in that Soros bus when they go home.

WARNING: I have no idea if this works at all, nor do I know if it's legal.
Another idea is filling a squirt gun with any material that bleaches clothing. Turn the black bloc into brownshirts. Not literally bleach, of course. That would likely be felonious assault, even if diluted.
Find the highest concentration you can of hydrogen peroxide (not the stuff for cuts, the stuff for bleaching hair), find a water gun with an opaque tube (it breaks down in sunlight!), fill up, and squirt away. They'll probably think it's just smelly water.

I think someone mentioned water with food dye. That's also decent on the annoyance factor. If you're worried about getting busted, stick with this.

>>tfw I read board instead of broad

The leader will demonstrate they are the leader as has always happened in white society. Are you landscape painter? I'm not concerned with that happening, the key is accelerating it. If the kikes acted more slower than they would have to deal with less whites, Jews by nature are impotent so that won't happen either.

You need to be ready user, it's going to happen when the media kikes and governing kikes can't keep their Rube Goldberg machine going anymore.

The public liked it when they beat up the Milo gang in the first Berkeley happening

You first

Well I see here you aren't the leader. Which is good as the leader can't be a one ball faggot.

Too busy fighting indians innawoods.

Hydrogen peroxide in high concentrations is actually really dangerous. The slavs throw this stuff at their politicians, but I don't know where you'd get it here. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brilliant_Green_(dye)

THIS is EXACTLY what the anti-fa, AND ALSO THE MAINSTREAM LEFT!!!!, think. It's also why they're going out of their way to focus on Richard Spencer, nazis, and racists. 3 things most of the regular public hates. Left holds itself out and says "Look at these nasties - we are your saviors against them"

Time to step up then user

That's why it's best to let shit like this happen for real. Have people with camera's catch actual selflessness. The best propaganda is the truth. Trying to stage something like that is only going to do nothing but sow the seeds of future failure. Hell just look at how well Hillary lying about Bosnia looked.

It works in both directions. It's how significant changes to the political status quo always works. They know it, and so should you.

Idea: Pro-Trump construction worker

Typical antifa manuever, nobody will suspect a thing.

It's about normalizing political mass violence (aka starting the fire for civil war).

Very illegal. Very stupid. Very dangerous. Very inhumane. Don't fucking do this.

The point of paint is identification, not injury, ignore the anarchists, this is b8 m8s. Anyone who wants to bring anything super nasty is cointel.

Painted black bloc, will make them cowards, less anonymous, possibly de-esculating violence.

Bringing weapons to a protest or rally suggests to planned to fight. Bring props which can be improvised self defense tools. A flagpole is just a flag pole, not a weapon, thus you won't be labeled as violent neonazi, who planned to crack skulls. Many of the shield brothers only brandished their shields and sticks once they other side started to throw lethal shit. Keep the propaganda consequences in mind.

So Lords of the Locker Room is a historical documentary?

Good to know, will discourage in future. What I had in mind is hijinx, not chemical burns.

Cuckolds. Antifa wouldn't hesitate to burn you alive.

Probably the gayest shit I have ever read. You want to paint a rainbow in the streets you gay queer?

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double dubs of being the last freedom fighters

The thing is, once you mark them, then what? What will happen to them? You'll also need a sniper who's good enough with slingshots that he can nail him, and since a lot of us never actually put any of these plans into action, we aren't going to have those skills.

So we mark them, then what? What's the plan? Do we target them with OC? Do we try to capture them? In order to make use of paintballs as a marking tool, you need disciplined organization, and that's what we lack. We should focus on individual arms for now since we don't have the IRL organization to designate roles to people.

mass violence is unnecessary
even if you kill every jew in this country, thats only 3 million, thats 1%, thats like a really bad flu outbreak

ITT: FEDS PLOTTING WITH OTHER FELLOW user FEDS

jk, well sorta, but we do need more bite

Easy - imagine if someone spotted one of the guys throwing M80s and managed to mark him.
Imagine if BikeLockCommie got marked and then found later. OH MAN do I ever imagine finding that guy.

Okay, too many people here are getting caught up in the larpfest of being a crack squad of armored commandos beating the snot out of wimpy commie students. I actually have experience with real larp shit (society for the creative anachronism; SCA) and I can tell you what you need to know for both offensive and defensive strategies that rely on conflict psychology; what crowds of aggressive people will do when they're squaring off against a large crowd of opponents.

Two major points:

DEFENSIVE TACTICS

Shields really are the way, but you kids don't realize how fucking heavy and threatening a giant ass shield is. If you construct tower shields and bring them en masse, you can guarantee that the cops are going to confiscate them and you'll be left SOL. Shields are still a great idea though, and you don't need giant fuckhuge shields in order to get the benefits of a shield wall.
Someone mentioned before the idea of American flags as shields. This is perfect. You can purchase 3x5' flags for cheap, any damage done to the flag will itself become a huge photo op for those concerned with "muh PR optics"
Most of the attacks that antifa use are projectiles and harsh language. A thin polyester flag can defend against projectiles, you just need an arm guard and a weighted base for the flag to kill most of the momentum from any thrown projectiles that could easily fit in the hand. In this sense, a shield wall of flags actually provides enough of a defense for what antifa are bringing to the table right now.
The important piece of a shield wall is being able to push back against a throng of people. Arm guards are good enough to do this and they won't weigh people down. A solid group of three dudes with arm guards can push back a crowd of disorganized douche bags. If they try to duck under the arm guards, you can kick them back. If you're kicking from behind the flag, they won't be able to see where the kick is coming from and will always be surprised and hit for maximum damage from the kick.
The most important thing about a shield wall isn't necessarily the skill of the people in the front, but the timing and the push of all the people behind you. Speaking from experience, the best shield wall is when the people in front are holding the shields firm, and the people behind are pushing them forward against the throng. A flag shield arm guard design can maximize all of these benefits while limiting the risk of confiscation by the cops.

OFFENSIVE TACTICS

These guys are on the right track. Slings with paintballs are perfect for wounding the pride of the bloc and making them sperg the fuck out against you, thus creating multiple great optic opportunities in them being demoralized and them being aggressive. I just have a couple points for this.
Yellow is also the color of cowardice and painting them in it shatters the "Black Bloc" uniform presentation which they rely on for both their own morale and the intimidation factor.
Yellow dye and a bottle of water with a water balloon creates a splash effect attack that ridicules them and shows them that they're not being taken seriously. This will absolutely enrage the average entitled millennial commie student sperglord that thinks they're engaging in "ultra serious activism." This will provoke them to retaliate which again creates optics.
There's been a lot of talk about using clubs and caltrops to fuck up antifa. You don't need to go to that distance, a simple savage beating will suffice,but you still shouldn't jump up to that level unless provoked or its self defense. But I will say this, having a series of shots and videos of a solid shield wall standing against yellow and black crybabies throwing garbage cans around and destroying shit will make it look like one group was trying to protect everyone at the event while a rabid mob went fucking crazy and tore the place apart. In light of THAT context, a video of some dumb bitch getting rekt will come off to the average TV viewer as the way people viewed hippies back in the 70's when they would get smashed by the cops.

Additional notes on organization, you guys are overthinking this.

ORGANIZATION TACTICS
I'll put this simply, you don't need to worry about this. If you and one friend organize and have a shield wall and no one else does, people will rally behind you when they realize what your purpose there is.
Everyone that's going to these anti-antifa protests wants antifa to fail. Everyone will have their own strategy, their own idea of what to expect and what they prepared for. Ask around, socialize, explain what you're there for, and the group will hivemind you into the right place. You don't need to worry too much about organizing beforehand and having everyone do what you think will work best. Just prepare yourself to do what you intend to do exceptionally well.
Again, speaking from experience on the battlefield, a plan falls apart as soon as a conflict starts. What starts as an idea to have everyone operate in a specific way ends up just being you, the enemy in front of you, and where your allies are. That is how you should plan your squad mentality, and moving ahead with clear purposes like "shield wall," "demoralizing paintball slinger," "triage unit," and "video and camera recording unit" will produce a highly effective mob with high efficiency results.

Okay, so you found someone good enough with a slingshot to mark one guy wearing black out of a crowd of 50. Now what? That guy will most likely not get caught by the cops, and since we don't have guys ready to wedge and target, we can't really hurt him. The most you can do is concentrate marble/projectile fire on his position or throw m80s back at him, since we don't have the organization to grab him/target him with close range shit like OC or clubs.

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Wow, you're REALLY against anyone doing anything about adolescent cowards.

Proves its a good idea

Who are you? Lockheed Martin? What is that Ghost Recon bullshit? Real life isn't like your video games. Come back to the real world. We are civilians trying to to win fist fights. Not auditioning for a Future Weapons documentary.

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Balloon sugar water, or diluted itching powder. Priority: Scatter their numbers through discomfort and irritate the aggressive elements similtaniously.
Natural anti-coagulants may provide a means to force opponents with wounds out of the effort while simeltaniously creating mosquito-like itching among the opponents.
More flags; more enraging iconography. Also, see above.
This will happen on its own.

Pretty much, It's an ego thing and also a class thing, leathermen tend to be mid/upper middle class, engineers, High skill trades, old wealth folks, tradesmen, stuff like HVAC and sprinklersystems. Basically the real working men/proletariat that commies can only wish themselves as their friends, the kind that are rugged, indiviualistic and self reliant. You have to be, Leather isn't a plebian kink, it's fucking expensive for just a few simple things.
Now the fuckbois and cucks and cowards are all the diametrically opposed opposites of these folks, they couldn't be anymore different, they couldn't be bigger manginas if they tried, that's why they're antifa. Hell, many Die hard Leather freaks won't even assrape a cuck for fear of catching the wasting sickness other than AIDS that causes these drug and makeup addled weaklings to degenerate. They prefer their own, and they highly prefer their tight knit communities where everyone knows everyone, and their reputation even if they're total mansluts, they tend to stick to the same 30 to 40 folks into their expensive and painful fetishes. These people make Richard Grey look like a complete pussy, and 50 shades of grey look like a cheap Harlequin novel. Hell, I have some fiction that deals with this type of homo, and from dealing with them, I dare say it's accurate, even if it IS furfag.
The interview: pastebin.com/mAzJGmEV

No, I'm just asking for the end goal. If you want to use paintballs, use ones filled with OC. You need to break up the crowd into smaller fragments so trouble makers can be identified and captured/cornered. Rather than painting a dozen people with paintballs, which does fuck all, use the OC balls to break crowds apart and then target the violent antifa with projectiles/clubs/more OC.

Take m80 fag for example. He is about 10-15 yds behind the line throwing low range explosives at people. You and your small team see this fag, but you can't bust through the line, and you probably will never be able to. So rather than trying to hit that one dude (who is likely moving in a small group and hard to pick out) with a marker, hit that entire section with projectile fire and suppress the area so he can't keep throwing m80s.

If you are successful enough at this, you've ended the threat. You have to remember marking one specific guy in a crowd is hard with a slingshot, and there is a high possibility you won't get him if you haven't practiced enough. So rather than ineffectually marking him, suppress him instead.

Look guys ANTIFA is trying to organize "commanders". Does this mean escalation?

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Quality posts, user. Thank you for sharing your experience.

Maybe, but it can't hurt to help.

Triage what? And which sides' stragglers/injured?

Faking it wont yield good results and it isn't honourable. The only way to increase the number of injuries would be to encourage more conflict.

Drums and horns for morale and organization

Stop pretending that the bad actors always and in all situations have completely adequate cover. They do not.

Mediocre case, cowards realize they're marked and they have to stop what they're doing.

Better case, they eventually get ID'd and brought to… some kind of justice.

While they're sweating about that, they have to decide how to get off, replace, or cover the marked clothing.

Again, quit pretending this is useless. It beats the living shit out of posting in an Holla Forums thread that recommends throwing ball bearings and piss balloons at people. It also beats the shit out of a lot of other much more time consuming and pointless things people ACTUALLY do at rallies.

I actually think I saw a drummer in one of the videos, pretty cool.

I wasn't suggesting faking pictures. Having an user focused on on-site photography/filming can help capture moments that the mainstream media might not want to share. Of course, I think most of us would prefer beating the shit out of leftist scum instead of taking pictures.
There are certain times when honour must be cast aside for the sake of victory. I don't think this is one of those cases, but you better be prepared to do so when the times comes.

It means they are adding more attack surface.

The idiots have no idea what they're doing. They're taking a cargo-cult approach.

Stop pretending that the bad actors always and in all situations have completely adequate cover. They do not.
Wrong. Antifa moves in groups so they have cover and plausible deniablity. The rare time some antifa will come out in front of their line is during a maneuver, which is why their lines are uniform.
They have fucking paint on them user. You still don't know who they are, and unless that marker is helping people fling shit at him or target him, he won't care because he has his mask and his group.

How??? How do they get ID'd? You have to either hope they brag about it, or you have to physically grab them or their mask. Marking somebody with paint does fuck all unless there is follow up action user.

Why the hell do you think paint will fucking intimidate these people? They're actively hurling powerful fireworks close to you, physically attacking stragglers, and in some cases throwing molotovs. Unless the paint is combined with action, they won't care.

We should shame them into promoting only women into leaders.

You're being a tedious idiot. Anyone else reading gets it. I'll give you one more hint.
No shit, sherlock.

Superb idea. Only "women of color".

Well fuck user. As far as I'm concerned, you were implying that they would stop throwing shit once you got some paint on them, because they were cowards. Did you mean marking for the sake of marking or marking as a prelude to future specific attacks?

Sheboons know how to fight. Whiggers like the antifa whore are better.

Sheboons can throw punches and pull weaves, but they know jack shit about battlefield tactics. They can't lead other people, all they can do is start screeching like chimps and lose their clothing.

Why don't you stop worrying about this, and you go back to advocating throwing glass as you did earlier, which is exactly what the "antifa" commie scum were doing in Berkeley.

You sound like one of them. You may not be, but you're definitely equally annoying and interested in making a fucking mess out of the streets.

What amuses me most about this is how they can't help but reveal their own authoritarian instincts by demanding a leader come forward and direct them.

Leadership is the antithesis of mob mentality, they're trying to raise someone up to be culpable for their own bad behavior. They want to engage in the smackdown of Nazis, but don't want to be responsible for it. In short, these black bloc protests are just giant tantrums. They're crying out against a world that doesn't respond to their needs, and they'll continue to do so until the world either responds, or until it applies discipline to them, brutal and harsh, until they learn that they've overstepped their entitlements.

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That's a really nice poster. Classy as fuck.

screeching like chimps worked, look at Soviet battle tatics in WWII

Well, why not hardwoodbacked foam shields with the USA flag on them? Just that, and say, half a wet mop?

4POL HAS A LOT OF STREET SHITTERS WHO POST, THEY CAN supply the poo, we can throw it

Every time I think I have the niggers figured out, they find a new depth to sink to. Holy shit.

They are certainly not commanders. Put a diversity in charge of any organization, and the best case scenario is that in a month your whole budget has been spent on chicken and weave. Worst-case scenario? Shit, who knows. . .

Under close supervision, she-nigs can rise to Condoleeza Rice tier, but even that isn't really a compliment. Her major talent was always not laughing while she lied to Congress.

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I understand now. You don't want to escalate even when they are pelting you with rocks/glass/m80s because you feel marking them with paint for some nebulous goal of "justice" is a better idea. Thankfully not everyone is this retarded and will escalate along with antifa.

ya slings will fucking kill people, this isnt the 300 … yet

Well, it's a matter of escalation and reasonable force. If they're out to kill you, load bullets and aim to kill. But it's not just a matter of PRfagging. If we can defeat them through demoralization, then we should go that route. Some of these people might kick the brainwashing eventually. Most of them are degenerate fucks, but I don't want to cause harm IF it can be avoided.

When it comes time to fight, shoot to kill. But before then, use minimum necessary force.

Yeah, if you're escalating to slings you may as well escalate to bows, pikes, and rifles. Slings are military technology. Wars have been fought using slings.

You're completely correct. You have to realize though- every single pebble thrown by us will be identified, marked, reported on, and kept in a police storage locker while Antifa literally can do whatever they want with next no repercussions. I'm not saying to not do anything at all, definitely not, but there is that factor to consider.

The fucking niglet at 0:08 watching that landwhale flail her fat tidays

Antifa weakness: Black blocs can be infiltrated

Imagine how demoralizing it must be not to know if they guy next to you is a friend or a foe…

Well, to be fair, they are using m80s and occasionally molotovs. And as we learned today, they have no problem giving people TBIs with bike locks. And we know from previous riots that they'll beat people who are down. I say we use equal force or slightly less force in response to them.

Yes, but my point is that if they are actively hurling dangerous shit at you, fight back with equal force. Fuck PR. You'll never satisfy the media and the police are political puppets doing the bidding of the local libshits. Don't depend on the system in these areas for justice.

You are a horrendous shill and need to stop. Painting them is probably the best idea coming from this thread. If the guy with the lock…or even someone else in black was marked, all anyone had to do was call 911 and tell them a person in all black(or whatever they're wearing) with orange paint on his clothes tried to murder my friend and his attack is still in -progress- (this is important because cops will respond to attack/robberies in progress faster) on my other friends. Even if the police don't respond they are still marked as aggressors and not bystanders, making it more justifiable to brawl with them. Even if they take their clothes off it interrupts their mob mentality, and eventually people will be bare chested with paint on them. Aside from all of the potential explained above, a paintball flying at 100mph will sting. The kind of sting to evokes a violent reaction from these people. However there's a lot of illegality coming from all this if you're caught slinging paintballs at people. I think water balloons with a paint/water mix is a safer route if a positive public image is desired.

This thread smells fishy though. I think there's some rotten alphabet soup floating around.

I agree. Easy with the molotovs though, they aren't very effective with them but our boys probably would be. Giving a communist 3rd degree burns on 90% of their body would make gruesome images for (((newspapers))) to run and vilify us.

The cops won't do shit because they've been told by their masters in the city council to let these fags beat people. You honestly think they'll give a fuck if somebody gets beat with a bike lock? Do I need to remind you that antifa literally beat a down man with bats and poles during the first protest and nobody got arrested?

I agree. I might use them for area denial instead to close of vectors of attack if we don't have enough manpower to do so. I would never use them directly against people though.

dumb bitch could have had an impreggnator in stead she go punched in her stupid face LMAO what a dumb ass coulda had a babie and settled down done her job but no instead she brainwashed with jew bullshit LMFAO!!!

I think this a great idea, in particular soft drinks or beer/wine would be great liquids to use. Soft drinks would be good because it'll make a sticky mess and beer/wine would be good because it'll make their clothes stink, which would be demoralising if they have to spend the entire event in stinking wet clothes. There'd be less media blowback if you're using non-harmful liquids, rather than piss or vomit.

white guys are the cream of the crop little bitches like this and their ilk are retarded with jew bs LOL

Which is why I think we should consider the old media largely irrelevant for all practical purposes, I'm more concerned with the stuff that'll be circulated via Jewtube, social media, forums etc. Gauge the general tone of discussion on any of these platforms, and you'll find that almost nobody ever sides with Antifa.

Doesn't work. They take away flagpoles because it can be used as weapon.

Literally shaking

we look better we act better we love better those pozzed faggots trying to kill your superiority trough your woman when push cums shove we will rape them all into non existence whites are and while always be more powerful than shit stains as long as we stick together remember that faggot

got better guns than you and a white man call the adl bitch

Has anyone died yet? No, because that's the point. They have escalated and they want us to escalate. Not escalate from our current level, but from their level. This will lead to one of them dying somehow because they're all manlets and vegans. Then boom, a martyr is born. I get the police are not responding (this could be a suit for a law user), but meeting violence with more violence is not going to help our cause. Even though they had weapons they all got fucked up from the charges and punches. If one of us is killed, then we can hail him as a martyr and it would work to our advantage more than bringing slings and shields to a mob riot.

can take a jew out to be gator bait lol

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never find em or a body down on the byou ;)

you dumb nigger lol

Dude, even antifa won't side with antifa.

Here, make one of these in five minutes and go around sapping commies in the throat; these two are faggots, but the club is a nasty whack.

What about class 4 lasers?

What do I win?

8ch dfs

are you quite well?

It is if you believe Trump is not on our side, which is looking increasingly likely. Escalation of violence in protest cycles between competing protest blocs and the state is one of the main predictors of civil war (see Charles Tilly or Donatella della Porta's research backing this up).

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protest_cycle

OP here. Not alphabet, just a pissed off ex-gator who's tired of seeing these faggots fucking with us. The sling idea needs to be used with very weak projectiles, but I think we've all agreed by now paintballs are the perfect sling weapon. They'll hurt like a bitch and paint those faggots neon, without killing anyone.

Between those and shield walls of American flags or shields with flags on them, we've got a perfect PR statement and a way to massively demoralize the enemy.

We need more non-lethal but painful weapons to demoralize and drive them back.

pepperballs?

How about extremely bright lights? Like painfully bright lights? Or just us beating a pattern on our shields in unison? That one I got from watching Maidan videos. Another thing I like is isolation charges, bunch of us rush in from the flank in a curve like motion to cut off a bunch of commies them beat the crap out of them, then pull back into the crowd.
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Painting with Antifa. Nigger, this ain't no Bob Ross tv show.

I should have stopped reading your garbage there. You are retarded.

We beat them because they are antifa. Period.

This may become our ultimate weapon.

You're posts reek of bait, all 14 of them. You're advocating violence that will kill them and choke our cause. Punching Antifa in the face is all you need, anything further will land you in jail or dead yourself. You want to be a man and show antifa? Take a blow with a weapon and use your fist in self defense. We know they're weak up close. Use -that- to our advantage instead of weapons. Back full swing, any user with grievous enough injuries will be a martyr and antifa is a terrorist organization.

If you are an user and not alphabet, you need to learn when you're being baited into a trap. You're letting your anger against antifa control you. This is exactly how they operate, and look how its working for them. Take a logical step beyond what happens after antifa is beaten with clubs and slings. Trump supporters suddenly can't assemble in California and the police actually enforce it. Oh yea… but atleast I inflicted cosmetic injuries to a brainwashed kid… those are some goals user.

I've seen this suggested in previous threads too; infiltrate them, find out who their leaders are and prevent them making it to future protests by destroying their car the morning of big events and stuff. Could be a big demotivator if you could pull it off.

Under rated post. Imagine you're next to the fucker who swung the lock? He wouldnt think twice about his black clothed friend dragging him to the ground.

Fill it with baby oil, so they light themselves on fire when they throw fireworks.

The entire Berkeley riot was stage managed by spook agencies.
No surprise there will be spooks on Holla Forums *as it is every day) agitating further.

Either way the left wing marxist establishment slaves VS right wing zionist establishment slaves shouldn;t concern one nationalist.

Sadly nationalism in the West has turned into neo-con ZoG cheerleading of late, none of this is by accident but by carefully controlled manipulation.

It's entirely manufactured and part of the last stages of the political theatre playing out as the West reaches its final death throes.

here (you) go

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Better yet, infiltrate their Affinity Groups!
As Food Not Bombs, ipecac their soup or put salmonella veggies in the communal stew! As Anarchist Black Cross write horrific and insulting letters to their comrades in prison, As their drivers get them lost!

Or, you know, the guy that brought the S&M biker look into the mainstream. Old gays are potential short-term, and I mean VERY short-term allies.

You reek of cowardice and weakness. Why are you even in this thread?

You have already lost. That's why nobody trusts you PR faggots. All you care about is earning a pat on the head from CNN. A pat that will never, ever come. You are too weak to lead any movement.

That would not be the end. That would only be the beginning. Real men fight and defend their rights no matter what. Your nightmare is the start of America's rebirth.

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Bad idea IMO. Lefties are already delusional about this sort of shit and people who are pepper sprayed shouldn't be fighting anymore. ALso, if they out you you're fucked.

Brown paper bags filled with shit. Literal shit; actual human or animal feces. Fashion a giant slingshot out of an innertube from a bike tire or something and fling bags of crap at them. Each slingshot will be a three man crew. You should be able to get anywhere from 25 to 50 yards range.

Please tell me how to have a revolution with no people fighting for your cause because muh PR faggots. You even say the word "movement" yourself. Tell me how to have a movement where nobody wants to join your side because you're seen as extremist. The whole point of the meme war was to appeal to normies, we wouldn't be in these riots with antifa without muh PR faggots because of muh Trump. My hypothetical unlawful Trump assembly statement was just an example. You know as well as I do how backwards and gray the law can get without causing full scale riots. You're absolutely right in that mean defend and fight for their rights. However you need to know what restraint is. We are already turning the tables and doing something extreme like clubbing antifa will backfire horribly.

Try harder.

Flanking maneuver beats skirmish line every time.

This would be awesome. Not lethal but very effective.

Not using Israeli stink spray

Also, wear a conquistador helmet to incite fear in the indigenous peoples.

You need to think more like prisoners. Prisoners use whatever is available as a weapon, and they use guile and misdirection to sneak attack their enemies.

1. Go there several days - at least three days - before the protest and leave a cache of weapons and anything the police are likely to confiscate. You can buy camouflage mosquito netting at Walmart for $10. Wrap up several caches of weapons in it, climb a tree when no one is looking, and deposit tie or tape them to an obscure V in the tree with green 550 paracord or camouflage duck tape.

2. Stake out several positions in parking lots around the area. Have some NEETs hang out there with good cameras (not your shitty phone camera, need something with zoom) and take pictures of EVERYONE that enters and exits the area, the cars they arrive in, who they are with.

3. If you can, set up NEETs in positions overlooking the battleground, again with good cameras. We need to upgrade our psyops, and to do that we need plenty of media. Meme magick can't happen without media. It's also useful for doxing people on the ground who throw explosives, bricks, stab people, what have you.

4. Got a gym bag, with some lifting shoes and gym clothes? Do you have a lock? Is the key on a length of 550 paracord? Is the lock secured through the paracord loop? Congrats, you have a weapon. If you're really lazy, just put the lock in a dirty tubesock and whack someone with it.

attn.com/stories/6190/most-common-prison-weapons

yahoo.com/news/jailers-worry-dental-floss-weapon-185039459.html

Got a can, a can opener, and a pair of thick, strong magnets? You got a slashing weapon. Open the can, fold the lid in half, put the lid between both the magnets and press it together until they will not come apart. Hold in fist and apply judiciously. Wear gloves when using to prevent fingerprints from getting on it, and it's probably a good idea if you're masked and don't stick around too.

Did you know that silly string is flammable?

youtube.com/watch?v=wWE9EmcV__8

Pelt antifa with silly string and then throw sparklers and other fireworks at them.

5. If you want more lulz than blood, bring a leafblower (better idea: have a redneck friend turbocharge your leaf-blower) and blow hot air in their faces. It will blow their hoods back and glasses off, maybe even remove their bandanas. You could use it to repel gas and smoke attacks. You could simply use it to annoy them.

Go to the hardware store and buy a box of chalk-line dye. It's a red colored powder used in marking lines for cutting wood in carpentry, that will stain fucking anything it gets on for days. It's cheap too.

Seriously I stuck my hand in a box of it one time thinking it was something else and my hands were dark red for a week. No amount of soap would get it off. Mix up some of that in water balloons and you have a hell of a weapon.

Use vinegar, salt-water, alcohol, and cooking oil. Will make them feel disgusting and look awful, plus it will ruin their expensive clothes and niggertech!

Good. Extremists make history. Nice guy moderate worms are remembered by no one.

“I came. I saw. I conquered.” Said by no nice guy in history.

You are completely blind. Yesterday the entire world saw our side. When I say "our side" I don't include you. You are against us. Who were the heroes of the Third Battle of Berkeley? Was it the pacifists in the back bitching and whining about the "narrative" and "signal boosting"? No. It was Stickman and the Bitch Puncher. The punch seen round the world.

So Holla Forums. Who do you want to lead the patriot movement into the future? Men of action that aren't afraid to get their hands bloody? Or the PR faggots? The choice is yours.

what if a U lock or something were attached to one of the bike wheels of the antifa scout?

These seem like good ideas, but 4 seem too violent

Said by no man without an army behind him.

What would you have us do, shoot down antifa with automatic rifles the next time they show up for a riot? We have a LONG war ahead of us, and it won't be won by charging in headstrong. Pacing is required. You lack the patience required for victory.

Extremists are not the hero. Taking anything to the extreme is nonsense. You completely avoid what I said with defending yourself with your fists when provoked. Antifa ran in horror when charged with fists. Then you conflate your post with bullshit pseudo-intellectual language to look so wise.

Did you need help writing the resume you used for your shitty shilling job?

Scouts work alone. Jump them. Beat them bloody and slash the tires. Or you could do nothing except nagging about "signal boosting" all day. Both plans have merit.

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To build off that, we need to start attacking like antifa and BETTER than antifa.

1. Never leave anyone alone. Never go somewhere alone. If you see someone go somewhere alone, follow him and fight back-to-back. This build esprit de corps (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morale). This is essential for winning any battle, and why atomized loners and losers like antifa can never beat us when we are together.

2. Move and attack in teams. While one pair of guys are running their mouths, another two pairs should circle around and attack from the sides or back. Break antifa from big groups into smaller groups like this - keep splitting them into smaller and smaller groups until they give up and run away.

3. Look around periodically, at least once every 30 seconds. Just a quick 2 or 3 second glance to your left, right, and behind you, then back on the task at hand. Don't get tunnel vision.

4. If you see antifa talking shit, back off and get them to follow you into a bigger crowd so you can swarm them.

5. Rehearse and memorize hand signals to communicate. Use a call-and-response method:
* Are you ready to attack?
* I am ready to attack.
* Attacking!
* Attacking!

Nothing complicated, the simple the gesture the better.

6. Get simple communication gear - headsets are great, if you can get them under a helmet. Head over to /k/ to learn how to use them.

We really need a thread on street-fighting infographics. Someone please archive this thread and screencap all the useful poasts for further dissemination on the Holla Forumss and meme pages.

Hail Victory.

I just told you. The entire world saw our army yesterday. And it was victorious.

Blatant strawman. You must be really desperate.

Americans have practiced "patience" for decades. We lost the culture war. If we don't act now, then we will lose the country.

If the tubesock mace is too violent, fill it with powdered peppers (all sorts). Very cheap at winco/waremart. Hardware store chalk powder is great for marking them later too, especially for post-operation reconnaissance by your NEET teams. Be careful how you hold it so it doesn't bounce back and nail you.

If nothing else you can use the old reliable: pocket sand.

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Would make a hell of a meme.

What was it, a few dozen men? What is the prize you seek that can be had with a force so insignificant?

Get your head unfucked LARPer. We're in for the long haul, this fight will take MANY more years.

It is a bot they released a few into this thread too

At least a hundred men. In Berkeley, the capital of hippies. Now that's what I call a good start.

America.

You are not on my side. If you and an antifa were in front of me, I would hit you first. You are worse that the enemy. You are a traitor.

Save the idle bravado an stop LARPing, faggot. You're in a propaganda war whether you like it or not. Now rub those almonds together, try to wrap your nigger brain around the concept of cause and effect: Nobody sides with antifa anymore who wasn't already antifa, fucking nobody because everybody can clearly see that Antifa are a bunch of fucking cunts, and nobody likes a cunt. So what could I possibly have to gain from emulating Antifa's violent, cuntish tactics? What will be the effect, other than further isolating my movement and engendering opposition against it?

There's a difference between being seen as an extremist, and an antagonist.

Something else I forgot to mention: learn to march in formation. It is very intimidating to loners and weaklings, and it makes women splooge.

I SUGGEST MAKING THIS THE OFFICIAL COUNTER-SONG, AS WE ARE THE PARTY WHO IS ACTUALLY ANTI-WAR

I'm sick of hearing ANTIFA play Beyounce, Tu Pac, and Rage Against the Machine as a unifying tactic. The Battle for Berkley had Revolutionary war music playing from a boom box and it was cool, but we need some white man's metal.

Shield walls when?
Auxiliary slingers when?
American Freikorps when?

IDF Jewess?

Having a marching song like the men of harlech everyone knows can also be intimidating. The battle cry of freedom would be fitting. It's pro freedom and calls the other side traitors. For pr fagging it is better to use the union version instead of the southron version.

I'm the guy that posted the tactic posts here:

It occurs to me that "arm guard" might not be the most clear or descriptive thing to many of you, so I did some digging and found pictures of what I was specifically thinking about.

Attached are pictures of martial arts focus pads. They're training tools used to assist people in learning to throw punches and kicks. The design on this is a firm hand grip and a releasable forearm strap so you can quickly drop it if necessary. This design is a proof of concept, what you'd likely want is something a little longer (3' if you want to sport a 3x5' flag, but you might want to go with a 2x4' flag, as it'd be much easier to brace that at chest height), and more resilient for pushing against a line (there was plywood discussion above).

Attaching the flag could be as simple as stapling it on, but whatever method you opt for, remember that people are going to try and tear it out of your hands. The more firmly you're able to affix it to your arm piece, the better the chance of them struggling with it, and picture for a moment what THAT would look like to the average person: a group of people, all clad in black, tearing the American flag from someone's protest shield.

Along the bottom, you'd want to probably see or tape on some small weights. This will keep the flag hanging straight, and also provide an effective barrier against small thrown objects.

Also, it's critically important that you make sure you've got the flag hanging right. DO NOT FUCK THAT UP! Show some pride and respect, the blue and white starfield should be on your right, and your opponent's left. If all flag shields are done right, then the repeating pattern will have an intimidating effect like a riot shield wall.

Good choice, but you probably want something more in the way of Twisted Sister than anything.

Easier to meme and easjer to remember

I like the bright lights idea, I was looking at tac helmets with rail mounts on the side. If a few of our boys had mounted flashlights with a strobe effect pointed at their eyes it would definitely fuck their effectiveness.

How about mixing glue and water? It will definitely mark their clothes and as it dries impair their mobility. As for the delivery method…

Oh right​, one last thing. Design a left-hand grip. Keep your right hand free for punches or stability.

this is a nsfw board though

I know exactly what you're talking about. They use these at juvenile detention centers instead of hard plastic shields.

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the leaf blower idea is fucking genius, finally can have the DAY OF THE RAKE

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what about free usb drives that they are told has antifa videos/music/manifestos/art…

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You're fucking kidding, right?

I don't think either would be a very good idea. There is a reason that nathionalistic songs like anthems and the such are usually played with classical instruments. They tend to stand the test of time. Could be my own personal bias on this one but the U.S. seems to be more a chorus, drum and horn(with some flute mixed in) type country when it comes to nationalistic music.

Metal feels like more of a fighting music(more for when shit is going down) rather than a rallying cry. Additionally, metal is fairly niche so you are going to cast a wider net by playing something more iconic and resonant(resonant being the key term here to describe the commies choice of commie bands and the fact that they are outright looking for violence and the destruction of the U.S.). Lastly, considering most of us were indoctrinated into 'patriotism' through daily forced reciting of the pledge etc. something seems incredibly appropriate that the same conditioning would be used to rally people into actual patriotism(for the nation rather than the state). MFW the jews tactics are used against them to reclaim America as well as our national symbols/music.

Looking through some of the older iconic music I think they made the right choice with THE the battle hymn of the republic. A lot of the stuff from back then is more upbeat. They seem more like 'victory' songs than rallying cries/morale boosters.

I think this goes without saying but you are going to want to use that with a shield grip rather than whatever the fuck type of grip is being used in that first picture. It will allow you a better punching form if needed as well as offer better range of motion.

Quarter Itie and I ain't even mad. The spiciest of bantz right there.

A full face motorcycle helmet isn't so good for fist fighting though, that's a lot of unbalancing weight.

but it's the perfect instrument to break big kike beaks with

I think you must be new to the imageboard culture.
The perfect sling weapons would be condoms willed with shit and cum.

Eat your own fucking feces, shill.

This is a great idea. Turn the black bloc into ancap bloc!

Also, while you're ideas are a little violent I gotta admit that the leafblower shit sounds awesome

This is the hard and dumb way to fight, and exactly the trap that Soros has laid for you. Instead you could just infiltrate antifa, then subvert them and/or sabotage their plans. Even just wrecking havoc from inside their lines would quickly demoralize them.
Anyway these guys are not at all clever, and anyone with half a brain could dominate them, if only they tried. You already know their NGOs, and finding their identities would be easy. You can even confront and pressure them individually, outside of rallies. They will break easily, when there's nobody to back them up and no media presence. There are countless things that can be done outside of taking them head on, at the place and time they expect.
Direct conflict is exactly what Soros wants, so don't play into his hands. Don't react to his moves, instead put him on the defensive and then break him.

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Shieldwalls have one massive weakness that defeated the original method in war in the first place. It has not vertical defense. Unless your group is thoroughly trained and disciplined, expect morale to falter when they start spamming M-80 behind your line.

These pictures are great.

Some pepople have mentioned the idea of bringing slings to fling debris at antifa. tbh I don't think this is a good idea because shooting little debris at antifa would only make them irritated and make them attack. Unless this is what we want, we should avoid using slings this way. Also, using slingsin a peaceful environment could be perceived as vain or cowardly, especially considering that most people are already against what antifa are doing. However, using it to paint the clothes of antifa to identify targets sounds like a good idea.

My favorite idea by far is the use of water balloons full of piss/vomit/food/trash/pepsi or whatever gross shit you can find and chucking them at antifa. Like most people have said, it would demoralize them, and having stinky wet clothes is pretty frustrating especially for those upperclass whites. We could use them right before charging at them to maintain ground and drive them off the streets.

This is a good point. Nothings stopping antifa from climbing on buildings and chucking shit at us or flanking us. If we use shields we would have to attack too, but that kind of defeats the purpose of them.

Too high a rate of failure before use to be useful. Plus good luck having the cops let you in with a water filled bucket to keep the balloons in a 'safe' condition.

Strictly speaking from experience, I would go with a piece of thin rope, a leather patch with 4 holes in it and a flag. If you lots are familiar with david slings, make a staff sling with the david configuration on the flag pole. Now the issue is, will the cops let you in with tennis balls? Someone else could bring in yellow dye. Are you getting my drift yet?

Antifa strengths: trained by best direct action trainers Soros shekels can buy, tactics and lessons learned from Eastern European colour revolutions where opposition was often riot police. Antifa less concerned with anti-worker optics. Use diversionary tactics, always seek out the cowardly bitch slap, weakest link. Usually run rings around American police. Weaknesses: Very few hold strong ideological motivation. Mostly a social circle, signalling, monetary thing. Most are pussies.

Need more shields, form into squads of 12, research Roman tactics

Stay on the right side of Law Enforcement at all times, slinganon, Ie. Don't do this sort of shit.

People who become LEOs tend to be inclined towards our side.

Why not simply take a multi-vectored approach? We clearly require delegation of roles and some form of communications channel that unlike for instance this board right here aren't open for all to see. That way cointelpro and other such methods for dealing on an organisational level with antifa open up.

sounds wonderful to me though

I feel like Magical Girl Tyrone has the tactical advantage there.

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Nevermind, just read it and it says "not blinding to the eye".

Still looking, but the general idea is blind-stun the fuckers.

where do they even get the fairy wings? its not like faeries are a part of their culture or history or whatever, so they dont even know what they are

Probably just being a male. It's like peacocks, they show how much femininity they can express without being killed to attract a mate.

There's a massive market in china where niggers visit sweat shops and buy up all the old stock they didn't manage to ship out and ship those to Africa to be sold at a premium.

Tennis balls are reusable, not very painful since it's not being launched by a racket at 100 km/h and the cops will likely not act out from people flinging yellow dye impregnated tennis balls at each other.

I was arguing against using slings, not for them. Also, we could use something else to color code them.

You mean those big ass slings that you can use to haul shit at people? from what I understand, you're talking about making a sling to chuck stuff from afar using what you mentioned. Not sure what you would use the flag stuff for though.

The flag pole is needed to make a staff sling. Benefits of it includes being able to launch things above human height. But since in my scenario, you're launching dye soaked tennis balls, it's good for the optics that the free speech people are minimizing violence and tennis balls being picked up and thrown back only helps you gather more ammo.

See video embedded for a staff sling.

I guess another weakness is their aversion to tits attached to shapely women. Dress like them, mingle with them, accidentally a pepe spray.

Yeah I'm sure the limited visibility and mobility are a real bummer when it concerns your very life and physical safety. Also a punch (or worse) in the side of the head can kill you pretty easily. It's why the temple of the head is called "God's little joke".

Milk.

Holy shit that's pretty damn far

well anons i would ceratinly advise you not to:

smuggle in baseball bats and battons by sticking cardboard signs on top to make them seem like just protest signs

hide knifes under your combat boots and bants like they used to do in WW2

put rocks or homemade surprises or anything you want to throw into a fitness bottle to carry and seem like just a harmless water bottle

wear skating, army or bikers gear (kneepads etc) under your clothes

always aim for the areas in the picture

…so these things you shouldnt do because its illegal, remember. i jst want everyone to obey the law and be nice and safe

That the guy aiming upwards. I have personal experience using a staff sling to launching debris from within a line to an opposing crowd and it does pretty decently even for a spiking throw. You just have to make sure to not smack the guy in front of you in the head when launching

just rewrite the lyrics to this old tune
youre in a civil war afterall

Also the guy has his knot done really high up the staff which made his launch premature, causing the projectile to be launched upwards. To launch at a relatively level area, you want the static knot to be about at 75% yo 80% of the staff. The loose knot can be adjusted to where you need it for the launch. Closer to the top for shots aimed high and far (this requires a number of people shooting constantly to be effective), closer to static knot for an aimed shot.

Dat property damage, tho. The good guys can't be shitting up the place with paint errywhere. Otherwise, it's a good idea.

you'd fill them with change then piss on them. video leaves a lot out and goes for that nonsense tomahawk shit.

Why not something classical, well known and easy to not only meme but have the crowd chorus?

Oh say can you see? By the dawn's early light

It goes rather well with the flags so many bare or wear.

everything about your picture triggers me

If it's food colouring, wouldn't that be fine?

Mark them with mustard.

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check this shit out. slingshots with paintballs can exceed legal us paintball gun velocity.

that shit is going to hurt/leave welts, and demoralize

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WRONG. You need a HIGH-LETHALITY ranged weapon. Nothing demoralizes an enemy like killing him.
Strong horse/weak horse. We should always be the first to escalate, we should escalate directly to lethal force, and we should leave no survivors. That is how you win a war.
Again, strong horse/weak horse. Injured Trump supporters is ANTIFA PROPAGANDA. Look at what they did with the video of Spencer getting hit. Fuck that shit. What we need are dead bodies of antifa.

WRONG again. Although I like it as an idea to sucker in injured antifa so we can finish them off.

This is how you get yourself killed on the battlefield.
William E. Fairbairn once summed up the key to victory in 6 words; Strike first. Strike hard. Strike often.
Do that and you will win. Do what you suggest and you will leave injured or killed.

Motorbike armour is good, I would also suggest shin guards and skateboard-style elbow and knee protection, worn underneath long, loose pants and full-length shirt. Helmet and goggles is a must too, and throw in a decent pair of gloves.

Shields work, that's why you see riot cops use them, but I would suggest strong plastic ones instead of wood, for weight. Also better for absorbing impact if the shield can bend rather than break.

100% agreed.

Fuck that shit. If antifa raises its hand as if to slap you, pull your CCW and magdump into the fucker's torso.
But leave 1 in the chamber so you can do a tactical reload.

An absolute requirement.

Good stuff.

I like the idea of a brown shirt…

Chainmail underneath everything else, motorbike armour over the top of that.

You can't. They're too retarded for that. If they were intelligent enough to be demoralized, they'd be intelligent enough to redpill.

Someone is going to, that's MY point. Who the fuck do you want it to be, one of them or one of us? Also, strong horse/weak horse. No one is going to genuinely give a fuck about one of them dying.

You're advocating cuckoldry that will kill US. Fuck you.

But I must agree with
All of what I've advocated can be put to better use in small groups (2 to 4 people) that infiltrate to find out exactly who the ringleaders are, and then catch up with them when you can take them by surprise, on their own, and leave nothing but a corpse behind.

After all, that sort of thing is best done when there are no witnesses, so you can make sure you don't leave anything behind that might tie you to the scene…

You really can't bring a slingshot into a rally, which is why I advocated easily made staff slings.

Shields and shield walls.
the filth will have to get in close to harm anyone, and then we tear their libshit snowflake asses apart (in self defense, of course).

Get together in groups for physical fitness, boxing and martial arts, and practice the shield wall.

Shields are relatively inexpensive to build & also provide a ready-made surface for messages and symbols, like any sign…and they are percieved as purely defensive (they don't have to be, depends on how you use them) so the public will have no doubt as to who the aggressors are.

I cannot repeat this enough. Unless you're trained like riot cops, your line will falter when the M80 starts getting tossed behind your lines. You can't rely on the shield wall alone.

what about those little pcoket shots that they make out of a bottle rim and a balloon

Nope. "First they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." The way to win against antifa is to not have to fight them, dumbass.

Tons of great ideas in this thread already:

- Mark the worst of the worst with paint/mustard for surgical culling or to allow LEOs to go after them

- Shield walls with plenty of EMT/medics to signal our defensive nature

- Wear body armor, or at least a helmet, to neutralize their ability to control us with projectile bombardment

- Look around often. If you see something, speak it and repeat it so that it can be captured on camera.

- Film everything.

- Don't debate with them. It's a diversion tactic that they use.

- Monitor the parking lots. Keep track of everyone who comes and goes. Especially in giant Soros buses.

etc.

The way to win is not to be a buttfrustrated sperg.

Did you not fucking see what happened at Berekely? How are you going to have LEOs that aren't fucking there because they stood down go after them? Stop being a cuck and handle your own business.
Granted, it's a good idea to have shields and medics, but being "on the defensive" is what signals you're losing, not winning.
Literally what I'm advocating.
No, the way to win is to defeat your enemy in every theatre of operations he engages in.

Bagpipes for same reasons + has this beautiful celtic heritage vibe about it, european civilization roots VS nihilism

What the fuck is this shit? Is this some super advanced "if you kill your enemies they win" tactic?

Let's be honest. The only reason pacifist cuckolds like you say this shit is because you're scared. It's not tactics, you're just a pussy. The left has been attacking and bashing us without mercy and cuckservative "principles" since the French revolution and that's why they have always been winning. They understand the demoralizing nature of violence. The "let's be really honerabru and principled" mentality from conservatives is just a conditioned internalization of that state sponsored leftist violence. You are the face of leftist success. You're the left's bitch boy creation.

Tactics aside, you have to admit seeing them get chased down by chads was pretty great.

What are you dong Holla Forums?

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Then you try escalating while the public is on the fence, CIAnigger; darers go first.

Berkeley is just getting the ball rolling nigger. The fight is coming to you if you like it or not.

Incorrect. That's what we saw in Berkeley; the public is firmly on the side of free speech, and that was in arguably the worst leftard stronghold in America.

The whole point of antifa is to try to force our hand - shut down our ability to exercise free speech by (a) intruding on our ability to peacefully assemble, and (b) turn the public opinion against us. The way to win is to become immune to the bait.

You saying that antifa are "the enemy" is short-sighted and dumb, friendo. They are a scourge, but part of a much larger scourge. Honestly you sound like an agent provocateur, but who knows.

Agent provocateur. Leftist projecting. Gas yourself kike faggot.

"muh PR" is totally valid here. We're not talking about shitposting on the internet. We're talking about actual Gangs of New York-style brawls in the streets with weapons. Escalating will just cause a cycle of further escalation. And if our side are the ones who escalate first, then RIP in pieces. You have to let them escalate first.

I also think slings are a bad idea. You can kill someone with those things. I think it'd be much better to stick with shields and flag poles

The way to win against antifa is not to beat their asses though that would be fun. The way to win is to have our message win. The battlefield is free speech, the sphere of ideas and the ability to think freely.

This is why they interfere with rallies - it's to kill our message.

Yeah, and they're going to succeed if you (a) won't use force to defend your right to assemble and (b) forget to still hold the speech after having beaten down antifa.

Oh I'm well aware that they're the Soros kike's useful idiots. What needs to be made clear is that the Soros shekels aren't worth the risk of being curb-stomped. We may not have the ability to drag Soros out into the street and kick the shit out of him, but we DO have the ability to do it to his minions, without whom, he is just one old feeble kike.

Says the guy saying "No, no, stand there and let them hit you first!"
Also, using
ever. You do know you're the only poster on 8/pol/ that habitually does that, right?

How about put lots of rd crosses everywhere and write medic over them.

That way they look like assholes for attacking medical personell, and we get to put crosses all over the place which will piss them off

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you could just add some sort of arabic ISIS sign on those commies and there would be little difference
they are the ones who look like masked thugs no matter how the media spins it

Used daipers? something filthy that stinks and they can't pick up and throw back
commies were a masked mob throwing rocks and hitting people with stics, the oposition were al unarmed, what the hell where they expected to do?
people need to start taking their own shields and gas mask to these events

You can organize when you own the streets. We will organize again when we own the streets and have the monopoly on violence. You soccer moms are a liability to the right.