You've heard of Anita Sarkeesian's "male gaze"?! Now taste the "Queer Lens"!

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They're not hiding it anymore, people!

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Anita is pretty cute

Jesus christ I couldn't even make it through 4 pages of that drivel.

I'm pretty sure I don't want to. I am thus far AIDS free and I would like to keep it that way.

Never change USA

Man just post the sauce.

Is the argument, boiled down, that Americans obsession with Japanese things means they ruined video game aesthetics in the same way artist obsession with homosexuals ruined art?

Can i get the short version?

Yes

for Sedgwick (2008), camp provides a corrective (pp.147-9). The present
is not so bleak as I have perhaps made it seem, nor was the past so rosy. It
is neither possible nor desirable to recreate the conditions that nurtured a
camp subculture among 1990s console gamers, based as that culture was
on technological limitations, underdeveloped channels of communication
and distribution and the problematic fetishization of reified notions of
Japaneseness. Equally, the trajectory from camp to kitsch that my title
proposes is too reductive. If that title is framed as a question, it is because I
intend not merely to leave my proposition open to dispute, but to highlight
the pernicious appeal of such binarized thinking, underwritten as it tends to
be by uninterrogated assumptions and attachments. For if new technologies
facilitate kitsching, they also have other uses. '''Independent games are
thriving thanks to online promotion and distribution platforms, middleware
technologies are enabling amateurs to code innovative, personal games, and
while player research can have a normative effect it can also ''testify to the
complexity and variety of gameplay experience (Lindley & Nacke, 2009).'
Looking back at bygone gaming subcultures, in short, need not make us too nostalgic —but it should remind us of the importance of providing spaces for
new, queer forms of play to flourish.

Emphasis my own

if you like jew nose

archive or fuck off

American getting butthurt that Japs make better games.

So, japan needs to be more queer?

Sauce?

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Are you actually retarded?

New game in my backlog.

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You're fucking stupid.

Jesus christ, this is the most fucking stupid thing I've ever read.
He's basically disregarding any sort of nuanced self reflection that you can put in a fantasy settings because he considers it childish. And he doesn't understand that people play games for the gameplay, not to watch a film.

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I'm a disappointment.

And this too.

It's a fucking excellent game regardless, so you're in for a good time.

Thank you user

Anyone have the girl who dressed up as her in a camshow?

I don't get why Anita seems to have such a problem with the male gays, seems like they'd be the first to leave her alone.

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Fuck this I'm going to bed

Give me the camgirl who dressed as anita or i'll eat your soul

First quoted name in the field of gender studies:

Bonus points:

These are jewish feminists or feminists reading jewish materials.

War against men is their prime directive. Nothing else matters. Gay men or not they want men powerless.

Maybe Anita take back and reassert my self.
That was a joke.

That's the academic jargon for:

s/video games/western culture/

Hol up: so this nigga is criticizing Jap games for not being queer enough?
The way it's written is so self righteous and pisses me off, so maybe I didn't read enough. Anyway…
What games has (or rather hasn't) the author been playing? Jap games have some of the best portrayals of lgbt characters in vidya. Admittedly, also some of the worse (gay caricatures for instance) but western games that pander to the "queer" I hate that fucking word masses are far from innocent of this.

This is insulting and silences positive works. Play some fucking games before you criticize them.


Oh I see, games aren't "grown up" enough for this douchbag. Fuck you, Grandia is a magical game. Anyone can enjoy it!

Go to bed FullMcIntosh. She's not ever going to let you suck nigger cum out of her cunt.

Not particular wanting to waste my time reading that shlock, but I'm assuming it's about games they feel don't give fags respect?


If they're saying that about Grandia, I can only imagine what would be said about Shadow Hearts and Yuri finding fags like Wanderer Meiyuan and the Magimel brothers to be repulsive degenerates who he barely even tolerates since they provide shops and other services the group needs. And he certainly dislikes Meiyuan molesting him (or worse, the game isn't specific) if you make Yuri undergo an acupuncture treatment in the first PS2 entry (which strengthens skill with weapons and makes them easier for the player to use the Judgment Ring for), with his sanity meter even appearing on the screen and dropping some temporarily while he yells in horror.

Hilariously enough though, while the Magimels' entire characterization is pretty much them being completely flaming and money hungry (Pierre though takes his payment in gay porn; I am not making that up) pieces of shit, they actually wind up with more characterization than most shopkeepers EVER get, as you're constantly dealing with them throughout the entirety of Covenant and they have new lines to say every new location (with Yuri pointing out the fucks are stalking him and his group, and at times questioning what in the fuck they're doing in the middle of a dangerous dungeon).

The concept of "male gaze" does not belong to anita sakraskndisan dimwit

Eh, I read part of this. It's not even at all scientific or objective. It's faux science as it lacks any kind of actual experimentation and clear cut results involving control and experimental groups.

These kinds of reports should be banned from this kind of format. They look and feel scientific, but they're not.

tl;dr it's a fucking essay.

I can't believe I read the whole thing. Fuck you, OP, and fuck that faggot. He spent 11 goddamn pages being a pretentious cunt who talks about motherfucking camp and kitsch in a serious manner. This is why I hate these people. Everything has to be analyzed and dissected, even the ridiculous.

The article's also all over the place. It starts off talking about camp, then takes a left turn and begins talking about system modding, Sega Saturn Magazine, and fanboyism. After that, he does some stretching in an attempt to tie it back into his original topic.

Worst of all, I'm not even sure what the fuck he was trying to say with this article. He's using some pretty vague definitions of camp and kitsch and trying to shoehorn weeb games into that definition. At times it seems he's praising the campiness of Japanese games, other times it seems he's condemning it, and then at one point he proposes that people who like Japanese games because they're quirky are "appropriating camp culture."

Honestly, he doesn't say a whole lot about fags. The whole "queer lens" thing is basically his way of saying "I'm a homo and that makes me special! So here's my point of view on games, because sucking cocks gives me a unique perspective on them." Really, he could have easily left it out, because it has no bearing on what he wrote with the exception of signalling to everyone that he enjoys a good dicking. I guess that's the point though, isn't it?

I miss that shit.

Sounds like he just opted to pad shit out and overuse a thesaurus.

I kind of get what he's saying, but like
said, he's all over the place on it. Basically he's saying JP campiness is a dying breed and is basically just "luck-based" on what gets popular with it. Some how he ties the success of the Xbox 360 in North America and the lack of 360s selling in Japan to it, in addition to generally praising games for their "kitsch" factors, like Call of Duty. Although, yeah, he says the campiness of the past makes it feel nostalgic but we shouldn't be afraid to abandon that.

I don't fucking know, it's all drivel. If these glorified editorials is how people make decisions then I fear for the future.

That's how it felt like to read, to me. Honestly, I found it pretty difficult to read because of how flowery his writing style is. Both because he used 20 words when he only needed 3 and because his pointless usage of unusual words. He writes like a 15 year old that needs to pad out his 500 word school essay into 2000 words.


Oh, I understand. He's bitching about vidya games while standing behind the Queer Shield™. inb4 he claims angry bigoted gamers are harassing him because he sucks wieners and not because of his shitty article.

Gays are insignificant to the Japanese tbh they're a small minority in the US as well.

every time

Halfchan has been cancer for at least a decade.

Who is that semen demon, and does she enjoy a good dicking?

SODOGAMING

Midori from Luluco.

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She's pretty sexy and cute.
I might have to watch this show now.

Looks like something out of Trigger to be honest.

And the funniest part is where to get out of the faggotry he should follow a literal faggot.

do you walk around Walmart with a constant boner?

Picked up.

Still kills my boner, I can see her physically becoming joy behar in a few years.

So what are the recommendations for grandia games ?

Play 1 first with undub iso ?

I understand Steam port of the second let's you play with English text and JP voice which is good I presume. Is it otherwise a good port, or better to emulate a DC or PS2 undub iso, if it exists ?

You like hairy backs?

We have to warn Japan. We must stop this before it is too late!

Sociology was my favorite part of university.


easy

this?

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You must feel so proud of yourself.

the guy writes like an arrogant faggot. You know that someone has his head up his colon when he uses thesaurus-tier words just because he wants to sound smart.

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Feminiggers just realised that they can't use their cunts to manipulate faggots, and that even their white knights won't let themselves get fucked by STD-ridden homosexuals. As such, gays have to be cut off.

Her voice is adorable too. She is best girl, no doubt.

The whole "unique perspective" on games is retarded. I really hope these articles die off soon. No one cares how your race, sexuality, and gender make you feel while playing Super Mario.

That was his point, niggarachi

Razorfist is that you?

I love queer games. They're original and fun to play. Japan does need to bring more over.

Oh wait. They meant queer as in homo, right? Because if not, I'd love me more weird games.

I'm just waiting for some guy with heavy, mario-like italian accent to make a video talking about how Mario is stereotypising italians

I couldn't even make it through the first paragraph lol.

it's like somebody wrote "I am insecure about my identity. I want to belong to a group. I do not want to be associated with people of said group.", stuck it in a thesaurus text generator and called it a day.
This is the definition of DRIVEL.

Bump

I was actually going to make a thread on this myself, because anons need to know what the fuck is going on.

PAY SOME FUCKING ATTENTION ANONS


Yes, they ARE trying to take your games away, and not for the reason you may think at first.

Also, since I started reading the Hegemony of Play document, it seems to echo the same attitude that the Queer Lens entries had. It's starting to make me see everything a little clearer.

I think the primary reason they hate Whites and by extension, Asians, is not because they are what they are, but because they've mad up the dominant forces in the market. Japanese games have posed a long-time threat to the indie scene, and I believe that's the primary reason why we've been seeing less and less Jap games make it to the west. And when they do, localizers make it their mission to remove or dilute the very things that have made Jap games popular with Western audiences since the 80's and 90's.

I believe this entire ideological battle is actually less about someone being triggered by boobies, and more about a large-scale, deliberate, (perhaps even unconscious for the useful idiots) attempt to subvert the market at large, and to redefine what succeeds and what fails in the video game industry.

You can think of the push for diversity as something similar to what's going on in Europe. They might be trying to out the people who make up the dominant forces in the market, and ultimately get rid of the games and game mechanics that we've come to appreciate.

But what is the end goal. Why are they doing this? For common core?

Shifting the overton window.

I think I can explain that

You know that piss-poor non-engine Twine? The program LW used to make Depression Quest? It's actually quite important.

Read pics related user, from another entry from the OP site.

Mattie Brice, Zoe Quinn, and Anna Anthropy all came out from the Twine community. All of them agitated this ideological push to try and redefine success and failure in the market.

What do all of them have in common? Besides being from Twine and being degenerates? Two things.

None of them have made a decent game because none of them have the skills, education, or capital to do so. Secondly, all of them have done their part to subvert the gaming media and to promote diversity.

As I said, the goal is to change what can succeed and fail in the market. It's to make the production of games, as well as a share of the lucrative gaming market, accessible to those that lack the qualifications to make the games that reflect what most gamers like in their vidya.

That's why there's been such a push for non-games, walking simulators, all these games that have some aspects of a game, like a 3D environment and objectives, but lack others like any sense of challenge, AI, and win/loss conditions.

Trying to subvert the market is their attempt to shoo away the dominant and popular products and draw the forces of the market towards their products instead. And when they can't do that, they use the concepts of feminism and diversity to worm themselves into already-established companies, taking the seat of some white or asian dude who was probably more qualified to be there then they are.

You're also right though. If this happened, it would open up a lot of barriers for academia in gaming. One of the main reasons why academia has failed to gain popular traction in gaming is because of the fact that gamers gravitate towards games that are entertaining and have engaging game mechanics.

The games they want to make successful are simply using the digital games as a vector for political/psychological influence, often at the expense of any kind of entertaining mechanics. That's why these kinds of narrative and art games never sell ridiculously well

So then whats the solution to this. Ignoring it obviously wont help. Neiher will getting normalfags to play good games and raise their standards. Im at a loss to see how anyone can fix this short of just getting rid of everyone who is trying to do this.

Wherever you guys see SJW's trying to shoo away White males, Asian males, or games made by any of those people, they're trying to steer the market their way. That is the primary goal. Ideology comes secondary to those who planned this out, and first for those who follow along as useful idiots

ict.usc.edu/pubs/The Hegemony of Play.pdf

Read the Hegemony of Play if you want to understand what they've been planning to do since 2007

The entire concepts of Inclusion, Diversity, and Exclusion isn't about the gaming industry literally not having a broad audience. It's about the fact that most of the popular and dominant forces in the industry fall under the demographics of Straight, White/Asian, and Male. It's about the fact that most people who fall under other demographics aren't in any of the high paying or popular positions, largely because many of them don't have the education or capital needed to do son

TLDR Subversive kikes ruin everything

You dumb, fucking retarded French cuck.

Honestly? I don't know.

The first thing we can do is keep making threads like this. Keep talking about the heart of the strategy here and anywhere else that would take interest. Inform people, pretty much.

Other than that, I don't know if there's anything we can even do. We just have to pray to god that the market will still demand the games they've been demanding. If that continues strongly, the market can't be stopped no matter how hard they try to subvert it.

If any more instances of Japanese games being censored or outright barred from the West show up, remind people that this is their end goal.

That's not enough, you have to fight back.

But how? Physically hurting them will just validate their arguements. Same with any kind of internet based combat. Normalfags really are the onky way we can do anything, but they only want what the game companies and the twine people advertise to them, which is non-games and games with so little depth there is no point. Our boycotts cant affect them enough short of starting another gamer gate for this shit. I think our first target should be the localisers. Save what jap vidya we can before shit gets out of control, then we can go after the bigger targets.

maybe we should do what islam does. since are numbers are low we tell our enemies that we love peace and tolerance and when are numbers are high we resort to terrorism and warfare

What argument? These people are scum, vultures. You are the market, not them. Convince people to shit on non-games before they become the norm.

Hate to break it to you but post-modern analysis and its "lenses" (i.e. let's not care about the author's intentions, let's bend their story to my interpretation) have been around for decades. "Queer" in this context does not mean gay, it means "different." "Queer theory" and other such nonsense is more akin to trying something new in a medium, like Meryl's codec being on the MGS CD case, than walking simulators about faggots.

They always complain on twitter about how people send death threats and shit, but if someone were to actually go and pull a stunt where someone outright assaulted/murdered someone for this shit, there is going to be a huge uproar.
Easier said than done. The average normal fag loves trash like tlou. Getting people to shit on it is going to take lots of money and lots of shills.

please stop validating the existence of that piece of shit.

I remember this show.

Why don't we just tell them to save their money and watch the whole thing on youtube? It would be the same as "playing it" and we all know choices don't count for shit in those games. If there is variation, someone is likely to have posted it too.

MORE?!?!?

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>>>/anita/


I can only imagine how much Gawker losing must have pissed them off.

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There's going to be so many meltdowns when Trump wins, provided the election isn't rigged. Since Milo is not only a fervent Trump supporter, but also met up with him, I wonder how aware he is about these ideologues trying to infect gaming as well. One can hope these fags suffer and wither away under his administration when they have to come to terms that P.C. & outrage culture is no longer viable.

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Wait, is this written by an actual human being or is it generated by some shitty AI?

The real answer comes down to culture and wanting to be accepted. They dont buy the games to play, they buy them as a status symbol. A sort of trophy to show off that theyre a 'gamer' and they care about 'art'. Look at bioshock inf and tlou. Sure there are some that actually cared about the game, but the vast majority bought it because it was pushed as 'a game for smart gamers' or 'the most emotional video game ever'. They buy it to signal to other "gamers" that they too are a "gamer".

To fix gaming and pc culture, we have to fix culture in general. And that is where ths difficulty comes in. Just telling people that the games they buy are shit is going to just make them think that we're insulting them because we're insulting the games they have attached themselves to. And thats where the heart of the problem is. We need to get people to stop attaching themselves to these non-games and media as a whole. But the question is, "how?".

As someone who's actually gay, fuck these people. Fuck all these people.

They've made the gay community into a fucking fad.

So the basis is there was a jew feminist named Eve Sedgwick wrote a thing called "The Queer Lens" that itself boiled down to a cunt bitching about not enough heterosexuals writing literally gay shit in literature.
Since talented people don't feel like injecting gay bullshit into their works she went on to try and make people believe already established works were gay on account of "subtext".

If I read this right the gay canuck
Bonglander who went to a Canadian college who wrote this shit thinks 90s games were dumb and therefor "camp" and therefor literally gay or at least more gay friendly.
They are now Kitsche which almost just means shitty because graphics advanced we now have an industry saturated with Rooty Tooty Point & Shooties where in the 90's there was less toxic masculinity games making billions that trigger faggots.
He'd like the "camp" of the 90s but really dosen't because it was very Japanese and Japan is quote "problematic".
Conclusion
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In a perfect world Hillary would be in jail after the shit related to her, there is a chance of rigging or accidental death by airplane crash.
So yes, after King Nigger Obongo told authorities to lay down any investigation against Hillary, after giving his support, just to keep any competition against or to try any attempt to stop Trump at any cost.


It was since the beginning.They just need a minority or a target group to use to a fuel for their "equality" rhetoric and get popularity, as disposable tools.yes, they played minorities and gays like a fiddle
Muslims are the new hot shit, while gays slowly started to get into irrelevant after the approval of gay marriage and adoption.
Glad too see people waking up to their "equality, happy, perfect world" pipe dream bullshit, even if it was kinda late.

Told you before, Anita. We wouldn't fuck you with your own dick. Those already shit looks are fading, just like I told you they would. Who the fuck gets a cleft in their nose? What are you, the wicked witch of the west?

That shit's going to be a tire fire in a few years.

She looks like a street shark when she smiles