Somehow I haven't seen a thread where we complain about awful/ stupid things...

Camden Edwards
Camden Edwards

Somehow I haven't seen a thread where we complain about awful/ stupid things happening in capeshit besides whatever's posted in the "overpowered" thread.

As a comic newcomer I'd be interested in that, too - like the good old classics. Girlfriend in fridge. The Blob eating someone. All that.

Anyone interested?

Joshua Cook
Joshua Cook

How about that time Wolverine regenerated from a direct nuclear explosion that burned him down to his skeleton. Somehow he can come back from that but can't survive drowning. Or how about that time Jeff Loeb Magneto killed off half of the Ultimate Marvel cast just because he was depressed about his son.

Jeremiah Lopez
Jeremiah Lopez

The ending of this movie baffles me. For one Joker is implied to be a lost cause. Then Red Hood gives Batman an ultimatum to either kill Hood or let him kill the joker, Batman says no, so the logical thing would be for Hood to shoot Joker and end this bullshit, but for some reason Hood decides he wants to shoot batman now and Batman maims Hood's fucking hand all to save Joker. Why?
I don't know much about the actual comic besides that instead of maiming Hood's hand he throws a batarang at Hood's neck.

Charles Nelson
Charles Nelson

(OP) (You)

OP here, contributing bs from the New52 Batman Capullo comics, which I mostly bought for the art and which made me start reading western comics. There's some really stupid things happening which are hard to swallow (besides the Joker face/off situation).

1. Clayface copies Bruce Wayne and that way copying the Batman suit underneath his suit, that way finding out his secret identity. He robs a bank, revealing Batman's secret identity to everyone, yet Bruce still manages to fool everyone in that super suspicious situation.
2. Batman has a device that projects holographic masks over faces, but barely uses it. He only uses it so that it seems Batman and Joker fight together at the beginning of the issue, but it's really just a mask worn by Dick Grayson.
3. Batman fights a mech owned by the GCPD which somehow gets the Joker color palette on it's own between panels and even he's like "What the hell happened?"
4. Joker, Bloom and Riddler each completely destroy Gotham and the JLA didn't help. Seriously, does anyone know the reason? Were they busy?
5. Joker implying that Batman doesn't kill him because he loves him. Basically what happens in the Lego Batman Movie. That might be Joker's foolery of the day, but considering he's supposed to be more serious and edgy in New52, that might not be a joke.
6. Batman has a device that sends people through tons of virtual, alternate realities as Batman, basically training them to be Batman. I think it was even meant for clones of Bruce after his death. Yes - VR makes you a buff super hero.
7. Bruce and Joker survive the whole Batcave crashing down on them but have amnesia.
Also: There was a Lazarus Pit below the Batcave all along.
8. Joker knew Batmans identity all along, but just killing Bruce was too boring for him. I like the idea but it's way too far fetched with that character.
8. Joker kills several armed cops in the GCPD with his bare hands by breaking their necks. You might argue he does it in complete darkness, but he doesn't wear night goggles or anything.
9. Mr. Freeze's backstory got completely ruined in New52 because his frozen wife is a foreigner he fell in love with. That she's his wife is only in his mind.
10. Joker gets his face cut off. Puts it back on for the whole "Death of the Family" series. He gets his face punched off by Batman, some girl finds it, declares herself Daughter of Joker, and it was a whole spinoff of her wearing the face, which still hasn't rotten away. It's so dumb.

Eli Davis
Eli Davis

Wolverine also almost died by being poisoned.

Ryder Ortiz
Ryder Ortiz

Man of Steel #25 - After being dead for thirty issues, and without any build-up or explanation, Superman suddenly returns via being shit out of a giant robot.

Leo Bennett
Leo Bennett

Girlfriend in fridge.

TBH, breaking up the Kyle/Jade romance was worse than the fridge incident.

Zachary Morgan
Zachary Morgan

8. Joker knew Batmans identity all along, but just killing Bruce was too boring for him. I like the idea but it's way too far fetched with that character.

And that's because Bruce straight up told him.

Seriously, Snyder's run on Batman was fucking shit.

Dylan Miller
Dylan Miller

As a comic newcomer
Lurk moar fagget.

Anyone interested?
Storytime it then nigger.

Carter Mitchell
Carter Mitchell

Becasue killing the joker is the bad thing. No matter what
That's why even after he kidnaped 100 infants and killed Esseden, Gordon still didn't shoot him
he regenerate
somehow that is bullshit becasue he can't breath air
The fuck are you on about user?

Jason Williams
Jason Williams

How is it he can come back from being vaporized to dust and ash but being drowned in a puddle can kill him for good?!

Elijah Ortiz
Elijah Ortiz

Given his plot armor, I'm not sure killing him would do anything but take him out of commission for a few issues. That does make me wonder though; out of DC's heroes who actually kill, has anyone stayed dead?

Thomas Phillips
Thomas Phillips

That's one I can't get over. Batman is characterized as being the super detective who could probably tell who's walking near him by the shoe squeak frequencies he memorized. Batman is also characterized as being overly paranoid. Yet this person, along with Dick Grayson never noticed that he had a molar with a company logo on it.

I also didn't like how Snyder made the Joker into some sort of immortal boogieman that knows that Jim's been hiding cigarettes under his bed.

Stop trying so hard.

Christopher Morales
Christopher Morales

I actually got Red Hood's actions here (probably because of my own daddy issues). It does get muddled because Red Hood is still fighting crime before this, so it easy to assume that he still cares about bringing justice to the criminals as much as he does confronting Bruce about the continuing Joker conundrum. Now that I think about it, my guess for that is to misdirect from the reveal. Maybe it is just my bias, but Jason's motivation is about the anger he feels towards Bruce being unwilling to kill the Joker over family, rather than justice. Some lines from the final confrontation that I think support this:

"I thought I'd be the last person you'd ever let him hurt."
"If it had been you [Bruce] that he [Joker] had beat to a bloody pulp I would sent him off to hell"
"Why?! I'm not talking about killing Penguin, or Scarecrow, or Dent. Just him and doing it because he took me away from you."

the logical thing would be for Hood to shoot Joker and end this bullshit
For Jason, at least in this moment, killing Joker is meaningless. It is about the fact that Bruce doesn't love Jason as much as he loves Bruce. Perhaps it is more accurate to say that Bruce is unwilling to sacrifice as much for Jason as Jason will sacrifice for Bruce.

Justin Gomez
Justin Gomez

Reminder that Calendar Man is no longer a guy who plans crimes according to the dates, but is now some sort of mutant that gets old, dies at the end of the year, and is reborn again at the start of each year young again.

Also, speaking of dumb Batman shit, remember when Batman found out that the Joker was three people? Did that go anywhere at all?

Jackson Fisher
Jackson Fisher

Not yet, but Doomsday Clock is apparently going to address it.

Ryan Carter
Ryan Carter

Recent Batman has had this weird injection of sci-fi elements. Sci-fi isn't something new for Batman, but lately it's gotten out of hand, like making the Joker is immortal or the Metal Dark Knights.

Reminds of the sci-fi years in the 60s where Batman drifted from fighting crime to fighting aliens.

Jason Hall
Jason Hall

Be me
Family really wants to watch "Captain America: Civil War"
Have never watched or read Civil War, neither have I ever wanted to but have seen some MCU films.
Have actually avoided CW like the plague for two years and the comics since I knew of Bendis involvement on CWII
Is for my family so ok.
Pirate the movie on torrent.
The ways this doesn't make sense even by MCU standards are beyond me.
Iron Man, the guy in charge of a private company which first movie involved him shooting flamethrowers at his captors and intervening in a war zone with civilians is suddenly okay with the government controlling the Avengers.
Captain America, a soldier who was involved in real war battles under the command of the government is suddenly pro-privatization.
How could you have gotten this so wrong?!
Also, just because lefties; I tried to lurk if anyone had noticed this but all I could find was people saying Cap was the bad guy for wanting to privatize. Fucking commies.
I mean, under certain characteristics Captain America could be in favor of a private Avengers or UN controlled ones but there's no way in fucking hell I believe Tony Stark would de-privatize the team.

Jacob Bell
Jacob Bell

dies of suffocation
does not die of his lungs being totally destroyed
Really gets the noodles boiling

Nathan Garcia
Nathan Garcia

That's why even after he kidnaped 100 infants and killed Esseden, Gordon still didn't shoot him
He thinks this is a believable action

No cop operating from how the world actually works wouldn't just shoot the Joker.

Brody Garcia
Brody Garcia

The comic wasn't better. Remember that the event happened during the Bush/Neocon years. So Tony Stark was forced into being a strawman of a Republican for the comic's obvious Patriot Act stand-in.

Gabriel Mitchell
Gabriel Mitchell

Iron Man, the guy in charge of a private company which first movie involved him shooting flamethrowers at his captors and intervening in a war zone with civilians is suddenly okay with the government controlling the Avengers.
Chalk it up to Tony falling apart emotionally over being responsible for Ultron's creation and destruction of Sokovia.
Captain America, a soldier who was involved in real war battles under the command of the government is suddenly pro-privatization.
Cap had just dealt with a deeply embedded Hydra infiltration that had not only managed to compromise and corrupt SHIELD, but got outrageously close to snuffing out potential troublemakers (Tony included) with coordinated Helicarrier strikes. There's no sensible way to spin gov't cooperation after something like that. Not if the Avengers want to get anything done.

Angel Green
Angel Green

Hacks writing Batman for last two decades do not know how to use his villains in somewhat original and interesting ways. Calendar Man could be used to tell some pretty interesting stories that pretty much write themselves:
Gotham PD and Batman watching calendar and preparing to prevent Calendar Man from commuting crimes
Calendar Man commits a crime, but he also happens to have an iron clad alibi. Batman tries to solve the case (It was kind of done already, but there are many other approaches to take with it.
Villain commits a crime on a holiday and frames Calendar Man. Batman tries to find the real culprit while possibly butting heads with police and justice system
Calendar Man attempting to cause "end of times" in accordance with Mayan calendar

Calendar Man inspired "copycats" could also make for interesting stories.

Austin Clark
Austin Clark

5. Joker gay for Batman
I thought that was an undertone that was hinted for a long time since TDKR?

Reminds me of FLCL.

To be fair they switch positions like that because of their own character pasts. Tony becomes more pro government over the course of the films because of his own lack of self control and SHIELD is the closest thing to keeping him in check. Cap had just dealt with Hydra infiltrating SHIELD and becoming distrustful of the government as a result. I thought it was more like subtext.

I thought the whole Mayan calendar thing was a misunderstanding because the Mayans didn't get the chance to write a new calendar not because they thought it was the end of the world.

Owen Wilson
Owen Wilson

Rachael Pollack taking over Doom Patrol after Grant Morrison's run, deciding she didn't like the rape in Crazy Jane's backstory, and retconning the character to have never existed.

Chuck Austin and Xorn. You know, Grant Morrison was trying to make a point when he had the retarded girl keep saying "Where's Xorn? I liked Xorn!" even after he revealed himself as Magneto.

Alicia Masters turning out to have been a Skrull for her entire relationship with Johnny Storm. Effectively retconning away the only characterisation that she had ever been given.

Everything they did with Rogue Trooper.

Killing Johnny Alpha.

Iron Fist being shaken to death like a baby.

Hal Jordan. Even ignoring the jailbait and genocide, post crisis Hal was turned into a drunk driver. Yeah, I'm pretty sure they don't let drunks be test pilots.

One More Day. FUCK THIS GAY EARTH.

All the SJW BLM legacy heroes ignoring that most of the heroes whose names they stole are STILL ALIVE.

When did The Blob eat someone? Wasn't that a Marvel Zombies alt Blob?

Soybo.

Everything in 2099 after Peter David left.

Hudson Allen
Hudson Allen

When did The Blob eat someone?
When Jeph Loeb decided that people liking the Ultimate universe was a bad thing and needed to be stopped.

Grayson Powell
Grayson Powell

I thought that was an undertone that was hinted for a long time since TDKR?
Not to that extent. Death of the Family took it one step further.

I actually don't really have much of a problem with Death of the Family. Parts of it were really stupid, like the Joker taking over Arkham without anyone noticing, but the comic itself was well-written (you can argue that the Joker killing every cop in the precinct with his bare hands when he comes to get his face is dumb, but the scene works really well in my opinion, and the first few pages are rich with a sense of foreboding), and I kinda liked that thow they treated the Joker as some sort of force of nature. I think the Nu52 handled him reasonably well, since he only made two major apperances, and both times it was a pretty big deal Endgame was fucking trash, though.

Regarding the gay thing; I don't really see it, but I'm not one of those SJW idiots who fetishize homosexuality and project it onto everything. I didn't read it as the Joker actually being gay for Batman, I read it as his twisted view of their relationship. I actually kinda like it, since it made the Joker look more deranged, which is what they were going for I guess. I'm not sure how I feel about Batman revealing his identity to the Joker, though I'm perfectly fine with the explanation that his sick mind just didn't acknowledge it and the entire plot was just an elaborate practical joke, as implied in the comic.

tl;dr: I don't think Death of the Family is that bad, but I do think it's a lot better in concept than in execution.

Zachary Powell
Zachary Powell

being drowned in a puddle can kill him for good?!
It shouldn't. I vaguely recall someone drowning Wolverine and it basically takes him to the brink of death before Logan's healing factor would save him only for him to start drowning again.

Brayden Williams
Brayden Williams

I'm not sure why Marvel gave the green light to Ultimatium. Maybe the ultimate line wasn't selling very well and they figured they had to do something dramatic?

Owen Brooks
Owen Brooks

Hal Jordan. Even ignoring the jailbait

I need to correct this. Arisia wasn't jailbait, she was straight up pedo bait. Arisia was a 13 year old alien girl. The writers had to make up the bullshit excuse that years were slower on Arisia's planet all so Hal could legally plow a 13 year old girl.

It was really one of those creepy things in comics caused by the talent having no connection to the outside world.

Jeremiah Watson
Jeremiah Watson

You guys remember when a bunch of C-list capes went gay for justice and decided the best way to fight crime was to beat up criminals before they actually did anything illegal? 'member how they screamed out "JUSTICE!!" in public with no provocation?

Remember how they accomplished nothing and only indirectly made things worse, got tons of people killed and ended up making their most well known member a felon?

And the less said about "Rise of Arsenal" the better. Because I have a sore throat, and it hurts to cackle like a hyena.

Isaiah Sanchez
Isaiah Sanchez

Fuck off tumblr moralfag

Zachary Jenkins
Zachary Jenkins

I thought that was an undertone that was hinted for a long time since TDKR?

TDKR also took place in a dark future where the Joker had been catatonic for decades from a lack of mental stimulation.

That's the biggest problem I have with TDKR. Everyone treats it like a bible for Batman when it's a fucking Elseworlds story.

Carter Myers
Carter Myers

Any creepier than Marv Wolfman marrying his waifu?

Ethan Sullivan
Ethan Sullivan

Cap had just dealt with a deeply embedded Hydra infiltration that had not only managed to compromise and corrupt SHIELD, but got outrageously close to snuffing out potential troublemakers (Tony included) with coordinated Helicarrier strikes. There's no sensible way to spin gov't cooperation after something like that. Not if the Avengers want to get anything done

You know whenever these sort of "Heroes vs Government" situations pop up in comics and such I always wonder why any sort of hero would ever actually support the pro-government side, especially if it involves regulations or registrations like in the movie and comic plot.

The government is pretty damn corrupt in Marvel, is completely inept at fighting any sort of semi-super organization (such as Hydra), and is usually filled to the brim with multiple shadow organizations all doing their own dastardly thing where they try to oppress or kill off heroes, mutants, and whatever the darlings of focus for the week are.

It also makes me question why Ironman would ever side with the government, especially considering in pretty much the last movie before Civil War it was revealed that Hydra had infiltrated it years ago and nearly succeeded in a plan to kill off loads of people, including various enemies.

Eli Reed
Eli Reed

I dunno man, some 13 year old girls have huge titties and fat asses.

Camden Cooper
Camden Cooper

He's a bootlicker.

Jackson Allen
Jackson Allen

intestines
taste like chicken

Lucas Wilson
Lucas Wilson

Yeah but their faces still got baby fat.

Carson Kelly
Carson Kelly

How are these for awful?

Joseph Harris
Joseph Harris

The second one doesn't look so bad except for the laced up boots.

Everything else seems to be alright, and whilst the yellow is a little off putting we've seen worse.

Matthew Ortiz
Matthew Ortiz

Lolwat.

Jeremiah Myers
Jeremiah Myers

I won't storytime the full run of Capullo/Snyder Batman, can't expect me to scan all that. But to contribute:

Joker raping someone in the comic "Joker"
I love that comic, but the Joker raping someone, plus it's the Dark Knight movie Joker? Bitch please.

Liam Brown
Liam Brown

Shield has the last supply of Jack Daniels in the entire MCU.

Benjamin Myers
Benjamin Myers

I hate Bluebird. I liked her backstory, but her superhero persona? Holy shit. And her stupid laser cannon, she's so fanficky.

By the way, what happened to her? She's never brought up again here, is the dead?

Leo Barnes
Leo Barnes

Wrong. There was plenty of build up and explanation. He broke out of the regeneration matrix in Action Comics 689, which is (using the triangle numbering system) 5 issues before Man of Steel #25. They even spelled everything out for dumbasses like you in Action 690.

Lucas James
Lucas James

Remember when Joker was a guy who lived since the founding of Gotham city? That's interesting but what the hell was he doing all the time without Batman? It makes more sense that Batman created the Joker, so there's always someone to stop him.

But "Endgame" implied the Joker was running wild for hundreds of years with noone to stop him. I doubt that.

Charles Rogers
Charles Rogers

she gave up superhero-ing in Rebirth and is now just BFFs with nu-Cassandra Cain or something.

Lucas Morgan
Lucas Morgan

Shit I never thought about that - wouldn't Iron Man's suit be banned or something?

Robert Ramirez
Robert Ramirez

It was an undertone. There, Joker says it out loud. And he wants to kill the bat family so it's just 1 on 1 with Batman.

Carson Kelly
Carson Kelly

Is there anything interesting happening in Rebirth? Because the stuff with the evil Gotham-Superman looks like utter trash.

Christopher White
Christopher White

member how they screamed out "JUSTICE!!" in public with no provocation?

Facebook - The Comic?

Camden Wood
Camden Wood

I haven't been reading since Rebirth much, but breaking it down from what I've seen:
Tom King's Batman is fucking dumb. The Gotham/Gotham Girl story was absolute trash, and Bats marrying Catwoman is a bad idea.
The current Superman is a merging of the post-crisis & new 52 character, meaning it's not exactly a return to form. Also Super Sons is dumb. Last Son of Krypton was much better than any Jon Kent shit.
The Green Lanterns diversity duo look fucking dumb
Doomsday Clock is a blazing inferno of pure trash, and is everything Alan Moore hates about comics.
The new lineup with Sideways, Silencer, Terrific etc. will crash and burn. It looks…wait for it…fucking dumb.

Aiden Morgan
Aiden Morgan

He broke out of the regeneration matrix in Action Comics 689

That isn't made clear until the fucking end of Action Comics #690. In Action Comics #689, it's assumed to be Super Shades, and the story itself tries to conceal it's Superman. The confusing is further amplified by having the Superman who came out of the matrix have Superman's haircut, something that Super Shades has, but the Superman who's shit out of the robot clearly has a full mullet.

Also the "explanation" is a retcon of Action Comics #687. When Super Shades goes to Superman's tomb, there's is no body after the absorbing, there's no body in the tomb, and there's no "putting Superman in the regeneration matrix". That whole explanation is pulled out of their ass.

So yeah, when Superman comes back in Man of Steal #25, he is just back, with the only build up being the last page of Action Comics #690. It was a return that was jarringly sudden and insulting to everyone who read the Death of Superman event from the start.

Leo Kelly
Leo Kelly

Retcon or no, the explanation is perfectly consistent with what's in action 687.

Elijah Harris
Elijah Harris

Funny thing about Doomsday Clock is, they try as hard as Watchmen artistically, but fail so hard.
Like this part here. I was like "Oh shit, the ink looks like Bruce and his dead parents."
Watchmen would have left it like that, but Doomsday Clock fucking EXPLAINS it a page later.

Joshua King
Joshua King

Hm. Calender Man would actually be a cool villain in the Gotham TV show since the focus is on the GCPD.

Joshua Perez
Joshua Perez

watchmen would have left it like that
Nigger the panels this shitshow is referring to has full images showing what Rorschach is thinking of before cutting to his fake answers, and then they have a full backstory reveal which explains why he was thinking of what he was thinking of.
I'm not defending the rape of Watchmen but you can be honest.

Jose Ramirez
Jose Ramirez

It contradicts what happened earlier in that issue.

Either way, it was bullshit. It relied on information not present in the story to justify Superman's return. It makes the entire event a complete waste of time. You could read all of the issues before Action Comics #690, and you would have no greater expectation of Superman's return than if you only read Action Comics #690.

Reading the Death of Superman from start to finish really gives you insight on why it's so reviled. Superman coming back to life after DC spent 29 issues telling the world that he was really, truely dead, is one thing. The completely flippant way DC chose to bring Superman back, now that was the real breaking point.

Jaxon Morris
Jaxon Morris

Yes, but the ink pictures are more abstract and not as easy to interpret in Watchmen.

Samuel Morgan
Samuel Morgan

Actually, that makes it worse. Watchmen gave you a visual clue that Rorschach was lying, but Doomsday Cock eschews this for depending on fanboy knowledge.

Also, we only needed ONE Rorschach in Watchmen. The over use of them here serves no storytelling purpose whatsoever other than wasting time.

Leo Allen
Leo Allen

Speaking of storytelling, HOLY JESUS FUCK does Johns not understand the comic he's aping.

The Watchmen was about pushing the boundaries of visual storytelling. Johns has fucking speech bubbles taking up 9/10's of the panel! How the fuck are you supposed to tell what's going on?

Michael Rodriguez
Michael Rodriguez

he paid her whatever was worth it
That's not rape user:-)

Benjamin Jackson
Benjamin Jackson

Except she's not a whore but the main character's girlfriend/ wife.

Grayson Smith
Grayson Smith

The comic wasn't better. Remember that the event happened during the Bush/Neocon years. So Tony Stark was forced into being a strawman of a Republican for the comic's obvious Patriot Act stand-in.
Which is rather fun, to notice at least, nowadays the public sides against Steve, instead of Tony the original "strawman", despite their actions and points of view not changing. Steve is known for doing the right moral thing, even if is required to act above/against the law (especially if the government reveals itself to be corrupt… again).
Is rather jarring that back then, when the right was in the White House and tbqh, actually being oppressive, they wrote Cap as the hero and most people accepted it because he fought for civil liberties and human rights regardless of context and people, now that the left was in power for 8 years…
Yeah, fuck their civil rights, maybe they needed control. They may have stopped an epidemic apocalypse, but 10 people collaterally died in an explosión detonated by the bad guys that, to begin with, could have killed 200
or worse and pic related
Is really insensitive that Cap helps a traumatized, abused and brainwashed man, people that constantly put their lives at risk on their own volition, no brainwash, could have died.
Even more jarring is that they continued this retarded idea into Civil War 2, does anyone has the pic of Steve Rogers telling an unconscious Tony pretty tolerable, sound stuff while he's portrayed as the bad guy Although IDK if that is from Civil War 1.

Josiah Morris
Josiah Morris

Yes Linkara I remember your review on it.

Depends, how big was the age gap?

3rd pic
Is this the original Batwing? The one where he was a former child soldier? That premise intrigued me. Makes me wonder if that series was any good.

I thought Sideways and Silencer seemed decent. That and the Deathstroke comics are pretty good.

does anyone has the pic of Steve Rogers telling an unconscious Tony pretty tolerable, sound stuff while he's portrayed as the bad guy Although IDK if that is from Civil War 1.
It's from Civil War 2.

Jacob Brooks
Jacob Brooks

Wait, Bluebird has a big fuck-off mole? And her mask doesn't cover it?
Does she have a secret identity? Then that's dumber than Green Arrow's beard.

Asher Adams
Asher Adams

I'm sorry you don't know how to read comics, user.

Brody Jones
Brody Jones

What, by convincing ourselves that the later retcons happened at the time?
So DC hold up two fingers and Marvel hold up two fingers and we say there's five fingers. Extra doubleplus good, fellow fan! Oldthinkers unbellyfeel comicsoc! Whoops, it's nearly time for our daily four minute Liefeld Hate.

Angel Martinez
Angel Martinez

Wait, Bluebird has a big fuck-off mole?
I think that is a piercing

Camden Jenkins
Camden Jenkins

She doesn't. She's 90% piercings. Still stupid, because she always walks around with those, so it's not really a disguise. On the other hand though, Bruce is famous and Harper is a nobody, noone could identify her because as far as I know, she doesn't have friends and her jobs were mostly in the dark subways.
The only one who could identify her is in jail or her brother.

Juan Morris
Juan Morris

girlfriend/wife
not a whore
Go away reddit. She got the job done and got paid for it, stop your #metoo BS

Landon Gonzalez
Landon Gonzalez

Tony… had a hard life.

Ryan Russell
Ryan Russell

Says the cuck who wants his bitch fucked by some psycho clown.

Grayson Watson
Grayson Watson

In the comic's case, there's a lead up to Civil War in ASM that shows Tony trying to stop the SHRA. Part of him changing his tune and backing it is that he sees it's going to pass and knowing that if left alone to the government will fuck it up. He's trying to be on the inside in hopes to have a say and stop any corruption. The problem is that everyone writing and editing the books just used Tony as a soapbox against Bush. So any decent motivations quickly were abandoned and he turned to cloning friends, killing other heroes, locking away people forever, working with villains, etc.

Is rather jarring that back then, when the right was in the White House and tbqh, actually being oppressive, they wrote Cap as the hero and most people accepted it because he fought for civil liberties and human rights regardless of context and people, now that the left was in power for 8 years…
I was always annoyed that no one ever made a clear and simple statement that despite all the teeth mashing about the PATRIOT Act and the Pro-Reg side being republicans that if the Superhero Registration Act was called the Gun Registration Act it'd be completely liberal point of view. Hell, you could equate training of superhero to cops and it could play out like BLM chimpout. Of course, none of that happened because all the creators couldn't see that point of view from their high horses.

Gabriel Kelly
Gabriel Kelly

To be fair, they squandered Batwing quickly (he was originally just African Batman inspired by that one campfire story before they decided to make Lucius Fox's son into an Iron Man wannabe), Bluebird got sidelined real quick after popping up in Batman Eternal, and Duke's practically a Snyder leftover that's barely acknowledged.

Dylan Moore
Dylan Moore

To be fair
hi reddit

Eli Williams
Eli Williams

this is all from the same issue

Liam Howard
Liam Howard

I actually like Batman being more sci-fi. Him fighting generic faggots in gimp suits has become really fucking boring by now. Snyder is doing it in a wrong-headed way but the general idea is solid.

Jackson Walker
Jackson Walker

Did Night-Dragon ever show up again after Batman: Hong Kong?
He seemed like a natural for the Bat-Men of all nations/Batman Inc.

Ryan Sanders
Ryan Sanders

When you're a fat gluttonous piece of shit everything tastes kind of the same.

Cooper Jackson
Cooper Jackson

Watchmen had time and length to tell everything they needed to, adding more frames with less words was fine
There the comic's trying to get more in less panels, probably because normalfags can't into reading longer comics and so they don't have to pay the artist for more pages

Nicholas Thomas
Nicholas Thomas

Wolverine regenerated from a direct nuclear explosion that burned him down to his skeleton
Someone once told me that Woverine's gotten to the point of being so overpowered that he can completely regenerate so long as a single cell remains. Hack writers come up with shit like that to justify stupid situations like Wolverine surviving a nuke, but they don't address the fact that if his regeneration was that powerful he'd be the broomstick from Sorcerer's Apprentice.

Henry Campbell
Henry Campbell

My biggest issue with this is that, if the Joker DID know Batman's secret identity, he would spend all his time making sure he robbed publiuc functions where bruce wayne was present, because the idea that Batman was there but was unable to do anything about it would be hilarious to him.

Charles Rodriguez
Charles Rodriguez

But he has attacked public functions where Bruce Wayne was present, numerous times. Usually Bruce has found some way to sneak away so he can stop him

Batman's secret identity, or the idea that he even has a secret identity is pretty much irrelevant to the Joker.

Grayson Hernandez
Grayson Hernandez

Usually Bruce has found some way to sneak away so he can stop him
But if the Joker publically takes him hostage he can't do anything. Those stories rely on the joker not knowing he's batman so he can find a way to stop them.

Andrew Myers
Andrew Myers

Does the Joker care who's under the mask? Did he get pissy with Azrael or Dick or any of the other sub batmen? I know pre-crisis he killed a guy who was training himself to be a back-up Batman without Bruce's knowledge, and thought he'd got the real guy.

Luke Thompson
Luke Thompson

I don't think Joker actually CARES who it is under the mask, but would happily use that knowledge as another tool in his arsenal to fuck with the man.

Owen Garcia
Owen Garcia

Did he get pissy with Azrael or Dick or any of the other sub batmen?
From what I remember, he went up against AzBats and quickly realised he wasn't Bruce.
I never read any of the post RIP stuff so I don't know what his reaction to DickBats was. They didn't fight in Prodigal, as far as I'm aware.

Angel Cox
Angel Cox

A Death in the Family suggests he either does know or could easily put two and two together

Isaiah Johnson
Isaiah Johnson

I think that regardless, the idea that the Joker doesn't really care makes him a more interesting villain. But saying he doesn't care at all about Bruce's secret identity is retarded. The Jkoker would surely do SOMETHING with that.

Nicholas Gonzalez
Nicholas Gonzalez

If I was the Joker and I knew Batman's identity, I'd send hourly bat-themed gifts special order to his workplace.

Jaxon Hill
Jaxon Hill

Old joker probably….nujoker will most likely dress Alfred as joker and he put up a bat mask to rape the old fart

James Taylor
James Taylor

From what I remember, he went up against AzBats and quickly realised he wasn't Bruce.
How did that go? Please tell me Azbats used the flame thrower.

Gabriel Ortiz
Gabriel Ortiz

That's actually the big flaw in the whole "Joker knows" idea. If the Joker knew Batman's secret identity, he would stop at nothing to utterly destroy him since humbling him wouldn't be a challenge anymore.

Azbats broke his arms.

Caleb Peterson
Caleb Peterson

This was pre-flamethrower

Brandon Myers
Brandon Myers

Well, I tend to look at Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker for reference. The Joker, in that movie, didn't actively seek to know Batman's secret identity, but once he did he wasn't above using the information to piss him off.

Ethan Bennett
Ethan Bennett

Joker once got hold of x-rays of Batman's skull that he was going to use to build a bust of his face by building it up off a model skull with clay.
But he ended up making a mess of it because he "wasn't much of a sculptor". I always wondered if he might have thrown that one deliberately, or knew it wasn't going to work and just ran with it to mess with Bat's head.

Hunter Morgan
Hunter Morgan

SHRA as a gun control analogy
That's pretty interesting. It's a shame they never explored that angle.

Joker with a pony tail
Never thought I'd see that.

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