A more cohesive right?

What are Holla Forums's views on right wing solidarity? Is it a net benefit for us to form alliances (temporary or more lasting) with other groups on the right?

Utilizing civic nationalists, libertarians, fundamentalist christians, paleocons etc., helps greatly to boost our influence. The left has been using disparate minority and interest groups in a unified struggle against whitey and normalcy to pretty good effect for a few decades now. Maybe we should steal their tactic? The Trump phenomenon used this to some degree. And while Trump is only a marginal improvement for nationalists in terms of policy so far, I think we can all agree he has done much to shift the Overton Window in our direction.

Solidarity is also beneficial considering the increasingly dire demographic situation the US is in. We just simply don't have the numbers to fight off the united rainbow coalition of the left if the right is splintered into 10,000 micro groups. Allying with civic nationalists and libertarians allows us a bigger presence in the culture and provides us an opportunity to expose, and hopefully draw, others on the right to our ideologies.

On the other hand, I see major issues with a big tent strategy. The most obvious is the potential of subversion. The united right is only desirable if the right's leadership are wielding it to further our goals. If the united right is being wielded by a neocon we are only helping to dig our own graves.

Consorting with civic nationalists, libertarians and "mainstream" republicans risks diluting/polluting our message and allows moderates to piggyback on hard right populist appeal. Could Trump or any other republican president have won without the racist vote? Obviously not.

I fear that empowering these half measure nationalists like Trump, Wilders, Le Pen etc. are only serving to release pressure on the system and actually prolong the reign of the current disastrous paradigm. I can't decide if it's a net positive for Nationalists and others on the "far right" to form these alliances What are your thoughts? Is it useful? Its it counterproductive? Is it becoming more necessary given the urgency of our situation? If we choose to form these alliances how should they be constituted? Where would you draw the line on groups you can tolerate working with?

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Fuck off mong. WE are the influence.

Wow, what a productive comment.

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GOP shill.

Did you read the post or just the first couple of sentences? I'm asking if it's beneficial to unify, not arguing that it is.

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No. These people will have to be gassed right after the Jews. We do not tolerate dissent, we don't tolerate evangelization. We walk the path of truth, everything else is perversion of the truth.

'rightwing solidarity' is a spook
What we need is white solidarity, and the more rightwing the leadership the better, but ultimately the survival of our race is all that matters at this point. The leadership does not need a big tent.

Oh and by the way, reported. Enjoy your ban shill. This is not the place for discussion, you might try cuckchan for that.

What is it for then exactly?


Hmm, guess it didn't take.

Wew shilled my friend

No it doesn't, it just creates more TRS like retards who go on using our memes to prop themselves up to a nice eceleb status then come here to try to tell us what to do because now they're semi popular.

Get ready for your shit threads to be BTFO.

It's called the White Race.

but SJWs are mostly white

Trips confirm. Wisdom accepted.
Where should we target our memes?

youre a fucking moron no one who matters give a shit about whatever jewtube ecuck youre talking about-totally irrelevant counter argument, checked


the wisdom you accepted is that its a bad move to align with other groups who share a lot of our own views because there might youtube celebs who take advantage of it?


why the fuck are you idiots shitposting decent threds into libtard tier discussion

Thousand year reich, White ethnostates, remove 3rd world leeches, stay user and do your duty.

jesus fuck this one has watched too many movies.. who says shit like thousand year riech?

only a thousand years?? dumbass. we need our rrace to survive forever. youre like a nazi fanboy instead of someone actually trying to ensure the survivability of their race. fucking idiots like you man.. i swear

Are you some kind of newfag ?

Right wing solidarity is the only way to go tbh

Dude we are losing the fight and you are over here literal shitposting about youtube "stars".

It's not a shitpost it's the truth, big tents are for fags and these fags use our hard work to make themselves appear to be much important than they are, then we usualy have to clean up the mess.

Literally have no idea who or what TRS is bc I dont spend my fucking time watching youtube videos. Read a book. MAke yourself smarter and help your race. Come here to then share what youve learned, how you may have applied knowledge in life and what wisdom you gained. Tell us why it may be a bad idea to have a big tent, other than bc some jewtube fuck might steal some thunder. It just sounds idiotic and young how youre presenting your views

We never unify, we exist to subvert and we do it damn well.
Holla Forums starts communities like the_donald or r/european, or subverts existing websites/forums and lets the memes takes their course and incept ideas.

If a group like civic nationalists or libertarians or whoever has balls to allow freedom of speech and let us in, we don't "join" or "unite" with them, we show them the truth. We subvert them.


The goal is a "thousand year" reich. One that lasts forever after millenia of solid establishment. Truly right-wing nationalist ideas are tried and true and will never fail when put into practice. The galaxy will be a white ethno-state populated by rapidly multiplying self-replicating world exploring robots establishing a galaxy-wide internet shitposting connection for the multitude of white home-worlds. Any xenos that come in our way will be destroyed by our superior aryan intellect and firepower.

So, big tent *could* work but there would have to be a line drawn around certain ideologies. Anyone who crosses that ideological line cannot be included in the big tent.

Here's an example of some ideologies that have to be firmly held for an alliance to exist:

-pro-nationalism
-anti-leftism
-anti-immigration
-anti-SJW
-anti-globalism

These terms are fairly broad, but firm enough to prevent the overall goal from being distorted. For example, conservatives, civic nationalists, white separatists, white nationalists, neo-nazis, non-cucked libertarians, "alt-righters" could fall under this umbrella, but cuckservatives, moderates, RINOs, libertaricucks and other toxic groups on the right would be excluded.

A big tent just means a bigger tent, not suddenly including everyone who happens to be right of center.

This isn't an ideological battle, we're in a racial struggle against the jews. Guess which side the autists who follow the heebs in pic related are on?

My views were explained nicely, for some reason you made this whole thing about ecelebs and blew it out of proportions and now you are playing it like you are some kind of enlightened elder.

You're either a newfag or you need to stay up to date on the latest controlled op WN movement

William Pierce and Hitler said it, maybe follow your own advice and get yourself educated

One more thing, this is not reddit, acting pretentious like this won't get you anywhere.

Its that simple.

Being against a bunch of symptoms/kosher poltergeists doesn't cut it. The requirements are: pro-White, anti-jewish.

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The liberal coalition has no logic whatsoever, except as a tool against the Christian civilization. It puts together feminists and patriarchal islamists, blacks and students, haughty vegans and people in need, anticapitalists and jewish financiers.

The fascist response is to build an organic society. The various parts of the political body should work together like organs.
Potentially, we could be a "big tent" so large that it encompasses the whole nation, and even cousin countries – except nation and civilisation wreckers, of course.
All it takes is a unifier: "Ein Reich, Ein Volk, Ein Führer", as they said.
Sadly, instead of an organic society, (((financiers))) owning the media have been poisoning each organ with demagoguery.
Everyone is sold an ideology that blinds people from getting the bigger picture (Kek).

Now . . .
Winning elections = money + media.
In a Jewed country, elections are always a mockery between jew-bought candidates answering to the jew-owned media on how to best con Gentiles.

Trump still proves the equation is right, because he was less reliant on jewish funds, and he could use the Internet to speak directly to gentiles.
We should therefore:
- take every opportunity to destroy the debt system and the usury system
- wage the cultural war whereever it is, and ultimately, own the media;

It is not necessary to draw red lines between Ron Paul libertarians and Holla Forumsacks or other factions, as long as these are White Gentiles talking to each other. We can discuss and evolve towards a principle defining our general interest. (

What you're suggesting would require far too much compromise & facilitates infiltration by malicious elements.

The right is already so infested by Trotskyites & Cuckservatives adopting left wing rhetoric that the bulk of it is an enemy of Holla Forums not an ally. At every turn they will mask, dismiss & trivialize the malicious Judaeo-Marxist elements among them while smearing & ostracizing anyone that would bring attention to those harmful elements. In short, there can be no unity with traitors.

To be frank, they're all just useful idiots, of course we need the normie vote to win elections and to help shift the overtone window further right. They allow for introductory red pilling but that's about it.
But the thing is they don't want solidarity with the "racist" right, and they refuse to address the importance of demographic change because "muh race has nothing to do with culture." The fact of the matter is that they're just as harmful as leftist because they postpone the real issues.

Right wing philosophy dies with the white majority, all you have to do is look at voting trends.

This, no compromise.

There is truth and there are lies. Kill everyone who does not believe in truth.

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First, we don't get to decide. Right wing ideas are on the rise, and normalfags will adopt sugar coated versions.

Alliance is the wrong metaphor. More like a free market or an ecology. We produce a certain output; the ecelebs amplify, distort and mutate that output to produce entertainment for the masses.

Wherever there's a buyer and a seller, there's a market. The (whyte) masses are tired of the MSM's offerings and want something spicier - but not Holla Forums. The ecelebs and other popularizers will meet the demand by diluting Holla Forums with bland and sweet ingredients.

Second, the diluters will bring in new men who find their way to the source.

Third, we really do neglect the mainstream conservative world, the angry republicans who thought King Nigger was a muslim/communist whatever. They are numerically huge but rather invisible here. Fox was their lodestone and they loved Bush JR. We should definitely work on GENTLY redpilling them on racial issues.

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Great post OP. Trips don't lie. Look how incredibly well it's working for the left. They're not even close to tearing each other apart because they crammed so many different interests under one big tent. I think it's time for the right to do the same thing. No reason to not shoot ourselves in the foot while were gaining momentum doing exactly the opposite of what the kike left is doing.

NEVER EVER
THE RWDS WILL COME FOR YOU, FAGGOT

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Natsoc is not right wing, natsoc is a third position.

Lolberg cancer is what caused this mess in the first place with its immigration and feminism. Social marxists are just a puppet of the capitalists.

I have no problem joining with monarchists and possibly with fascists, but I won't touch the cancerous purple-square fags who'll proudly proclaim "I don't give a fuck if Europe is 100% nonwhite, just as long as I don't violate the NAP" while consuming their burgers and porn.

Fuck off you old sack of shit trying to boss us around after you did jack shit all your life. Fucking idiot, wew.

Monarchist are just like centrists bro, cowardly faggots who desire an authorian government but are too afraid to call themselves fascist or NatSoc: monarchy is archaic, there's no reason an elected king should have his family rule for life. We LAUGH at monarchist faggots.

A monarchy gives people heroes and builds national pride. A monarch related to his people by blood has the best interests to his kinsmen at heart.

I laugh at absolute-monarchist faggots, but I can see the utility in a figurehead. Look at how normiefags worship the Obamas and the Trumps like royalty, and all the god emperor memes.

If they align with our interests (nationalism, stopping white genocide, stopping multiculturalism), then we came make very SHORT-TERM, because this groups might be mostly controlled opposition led by alphabet soup™.

the hack really set all these shills in full dissent mode

Sage because it's another meaningless >what does Holla Forums X of Y

Absolutely. Look at the Spanish Civil War for reasons why.

The Right Wing (Monarchists, Fascists, and Nationalists) won because the Left (Communists, Anarchists, and Liberal) began having infighting at the end of the war. The Marxists and Anarchists started fighting each other over ideology instead of teaming up.

Dividing and conquering the Right Wing over issues with Civic Nationalism vs National Socialism is what will kill us. Ideological differences can be disputed at the end, after we have won.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Civil_War

Yes, but monarchy doesn't work that way, monarchy was so fucked up and complex the Queen of England is German.. And a little bit Russian.. etc, etc. Why is monarchy good other than that? If its just for a figurehead then spoiling some random fuck isn't worth it.

And then they're more numerous because they have niggers
FUCK OFF SHITSKIN

The important thing is, I think, to never stop pushing and to never let momentum fall off to a relative-left position. Use the energy and resources of other "right" groups, appeal to those groups and populations in order to achieve overlapping goals, but never stop pushing things rightward and never allow any given group/ideology that's currently useful become the status-quo. Never stop, never adopt the win conditions of the moderate useful-idiots.

A major component of this is keeping the momentum on the overlapping alone; NEVER popularize or support individual leaders/celebs of relatively moderate groups. People like Sargon, Milo, and whoever will come next are detrimental to progress. They become nets that trap people and energy at their own personal rightward limits.

Work with others on overlapping goals, but never stop pushing to the right. Remember that every victory and every rightward shift of the Overton window will turn the left-most of our current allies into enemies. Keep pushing.

Stop getting enamored with labels like "left" or "right."
Civic nationalists, libertarians, and other assorted faggots are NOT on our side. They will never be on our side. If we let egalitarian ideologues into our ranks they will undermine everything. They are poisoned by the same Marxist bile that flows from the mouths of liberals. What you perceive as being "the right" has never been unified because its definition has been diluted to include those who disagree with the far left. Remember: They try their damnedest to frame fucking Sargon of Akkad (the youtuber, not the historical figure) as right wing.

Don't be fooled when crypto liberals call themselves or are labeled "right wing." They are leftists. Let them fight among other leftists but don't call them one of our own. The only way we'll avoid petty infighting amongst our movement is to identify who the problem elements are ahead of time.

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the only ancap there is rothbard, the least objectionable among them afaik. If ancaps know about jews and understand the race war, they will side with us. In that case, it's just a system of how property works amongst us. I've already said rightwing solidarity is bullshit, but I think the ancap/redneck-libertarian camp has a lot of useful people and they have been getting wise to typical tricks in the last few years.

If they got wise they would have become natsocs

The libertarian primary this year was such an absolute shitshow than anyone unironically calling themselves a lolberg is beyond redemption

AnCap is more fucking jewish than communism itsself. Ya what could go wrong with absolutely no regulation on commercial transactions slapped up with savage lawlessness for some fucking reason.

ancaps and older libertarians had nothing to do with the LP this year, if they ever did at all. LP was always a protest vote, and Trump was a much bigger Fuck You then any libertarian candidate, certainly not dude weed. If you are talking about left-libertarians, yeah, they're crypto commies.


you can't sell drugs, blacked porn, or subversive materials on my property and I won't associate with anyone who does, strawman busted

there are even ancap lawyers, but pretending you were right, face to bloodshed faggot.

kek I'm third position, the boot missed me.

pick one and only one user.