Thundercats 2011: How it Would Have Ended with Dan Norton

Josiah Fisher
Josiah Fisher

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Dan Norton Interview
It would have started with a time skip with the power balance in Mumm-Ra's favor. Lion-O would've come up with the Code of Thundera from the 1985 series and along with the symbols on the red crests of the armor. The rebuilt Thundera would've included all who opposed Mumm-Ra.
The second episode would have been about Berbils would make the New Thundera technologically more advanced than the old one. Panthro plans to steal Mumm-Ra's technology to give them an advantage and the Berbils would follow him. This episode would've revealed Snarf's species' origins and show Flashbacks of when Panthro was trapped in the pyramid after Grune's betrayal. Ro-Bear Bill would have sacrificed himself to save Panthro and ensure the heroes would have the advantage Panthro planned.
The third episode would have been about other details that was revealed at a convention, Slithe's motives for siding with Mumm-Ra, Lynx-O's spotlight appearance, Slithe's grudge against Lynx-O and Slithe killing Lynx-O. There would be hints of Pumyra wanting more power too.
The fourth episode would have given the spotlight to Cheetara and her status as the last Cleric along with introducing an old rival of Cheetara's from her Cleric training days (a fat snow leopard) and would have learned that Cheetara blames herself for her grandma's death because of her speed to deliver medicine. Like her 1985 Series Counterpart, Cheetara would gain the ability to see into the future in this episode.
An episode would have focused on Jaga and confirmed that the Astral Plane is where Jaga's spirit resides. This episode also confirmed that Grune is still trapped in the Astral Plane and he has been transformed into a more monstrous version of himself (with Panthro's arms attached to him). Grune would also steal the Blue Power Stone (known as the "Soul Stone").

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Jaxon Wilson
Jaxon Wilson

CROSSOVER TIME!

An episode would have shown some flashbacks to explain how the Kittens acquired their items (the Flink and the Flupe), they were in the maze of Baron Karnor
An episode would have involved islands and a nautical vibe. The TigerSharks would have made an appearance and the Bolkins from the 1985 Series would have appeared and been made into a community of fishermen. They would also have to deal with the Berserkers lead by Hammerhand.
The following episodes would have shown Mumm-Ra uses the Power Stones to power-up his pyramid and one of these episodes revealed one of these power-ups to be turning sand into a black mist and releasing it within a chamber that turns whom ever breaths it into a more powerful but more monstrous form.
Pumyra would transform into a mutant-bug monstrosity. Pumyra would be in this form for a few episodes and Tygra would kill Pumyra when it became clear she is beyond the point of redemption
The first batch of 13 episodes from this set of 26 episodes would end with Lion-O entering the Book of Omens to train some more

Xavier Gomez
Xavier Gomez

Another major point from these episodes would be the Kittens splitting up on somewhat bitter terms during the time skip. Wilykit went to live with the Elephants at one point and became their queen while Wilykat still focused on finding Eldara and becomes a King of Thieves.
Hachiman was planned to appear, learned how to fight from a group of roach people and have a sword created by the Drifter. The Conquedor would have been revealed to be Safari Joe from the 1985 Series. The Lunataks were planned to appear too.
Lion-O would emerge from the Book of Omens 10 years later (looking like the ThunderCat equivalent of Conan The Barbarian) and Wilykit would eventually become romantically attached to Lion-O and later becoming the Queen of Thundera after marrying him. Bengali would appear as Tygra & Cheetara's son in this series
After Lion-O returns from the Book of Omens, Mumm-Ra's pyramid would have enough power to float again and he plans to use it to attack the ThunderCats but it takes over the course of this next batch of 13 episodes to reach the Cat's Lair. The ThunderCats would face off against Grune again to reclaim the Soul Stone and Panthro would reclaim his arms from Grune, which now have an ability known as an "Astral Punch".
After this last confrontation with Grune, Mumm-Ra would steal the Soul Stone but Slithe would betray him and give the stone to Lion-O and be killed by Mumm-Ra in retaliation. Tygra would also die before the final battle when he takes a hit from the Sword of Plun-Darr intended for Lion-O.
The final battle would show all of the ThunderCats' allies answering Lion-O's battle cry/battle call, the Drifter would return with all the Swordsmen who regained their swords taken by the Duelist and Ponzi would return with Lucy. When Lion-O defeats Mumm-Ra a bandage would fly off into the wind.
The epilogue would show peace has returned to Third Earth but the final scene would show the bandage from the final batle landing on the face of an innocent animal herder in the desert, forcibly mummify him and bury him under ground in the desert.
There were two different ideas for whether Tygra could be brought back to life or if he stayed dead; the gauntlet combined with all the Power Stones would have the power to restore things (the debate was whether it could restore life or not). If they went with the Tygra stays dead route, there would have been a scene where Lion-O shows Bengali statues of previous kings and there would be a statue dedicated to Tygra.
Like in the original , Third Earth would be revealed as Earth from the distant future. The "Third" part of the name comes from the times Mumm-Ra visited Earth; "First Earth" was when Mumm-Ra visited Earth during the time of the dinosaurs and "Second Earth" was when Mumm-Ra spend a significant amount of time on Earth in Egypt.
The SilverHawks were from the time of "Second Earth" and would have met the ThunderCats through a hole in time. The SilverHawks and the TigerSharks were also allies that would join in during the final battle. There were "back-up plans" in case they were unable to have said teams appearing.

Out of everything, Lion-O/Wilykit as endgame is what threw me for a loop. Cute though.

Josiah Robinson
Josiah Robinson

Silver Hawks? As in the rock n roll in space cartoon?

Anthony Scott
Anthony Scott

Fuck yeah, with the latam intro too!

Jordan Clark
Jordan Clark

Drifter would return with all the Swordsmen who regained their swords taken by the Duelist
What a weird plotpoint to call back to. It really shows that they wanted to fix their problem of not having a strong overarching story by making the second season one clear storyline. What isn't clear is whether or not they were intent on fixing the issue of every character being a dickbag. Wilykit and Wilykat splitting ways makes me think they didn't, but potentially killing of Tygra shows that they wanted to kick a certain writer in the dick for sabotaging an entire season by making him the worst character, with Lion-O in a close second, because he never fucking learned anything.

Anthony Clark
Anthony Clark

962122
That's a big post.

Xavier Torres
Xavier Torres

For You

Asher Russell
Asher Russell

Even if they could've fixed the character problem, people would still have to be convinced to watch it again, with how bad the rest of the show had been up to that point.

Isaac Torres
Isaac Torres

Exactly. Even this after-the-fact exposition of everything they wanted to do, 6 years after the series crashed, burned, and then got shit all over by the fans doesn't ring as sincere to me. 6 years is a long time to soak up all the criticism and then miraculously claim that the next season, which will never be made, would have been 100 times better and correct all the problems of the original. Executive meddling and toy company demands can only account for so much of what went wrong. The rest is on the creative team and the writers who made so many mistakes and stupid decisions that it effectively killed the franchise for another 30 years.

Luke Sanchez
Luke Sanchez

that moment you genuinely wanted Lion-O to betray his "friends" and go off doing his own thing

Seriously, how do you make a cast so unlikable?

Andrew Flores
Andrew Flores

still can't get over how good the animation for that opening was.

Angel Garcia
Angel Garcia

Some of the big 80s cartoons farmed out their opening animations to Japanese studios, if I recall correctly.

Joshua Clark
Joshua Clark

Oh I'm sure this was handed to japan, but even for the time it's pretty darn good. In the 80's japan still had the mind set of making pictures move rather than animating figures.

Leo Cruz
Leo Cruz

someone post the tree webm

Colton Hall
Colton Hall

Someone get this user a working shiftkey!

Nathan Jackson
Nathan Jackson

Shit, forgot to post this one, too.

Colton Anderson
Colton Anderson

user, you know you can post both of them in a single post, right?

Jack Hughes
Jack Hughes

I know, I forgot to post them together in that first post.

Gavin Harris
Gavin Harris

Oh yes, this show.

Hudson Martin
Hudson Martin

Come on, you can do better than posting the same three WEBMs that have been spammed to death in every Thundercats thread. The show had WAAAY more hilariously dumb shit in it than that.

mfw we will never see Wilykit all grown up

Truly this is the worst timeline.

Robert Price
Robert Price

Thundercats thread
Hopefully that Tygra fanboy doesn't appear to shit it up again.

Pumyra would transform into a mutant-bug monstrosity. Pumyra would be in this form for a few episodes and Tygra would kill Pumyra when it became clear she is beyond the point of redemption
Man that would have been so shitty. I liked Pumyra and I was so disappointed when she turned out to be evil.

ywn see adult Wilykit in a harem girl bikini
There would have still be enough time before 2014, but not now anymore…

Justin Brooks
Justin Brooks

eat glass

Elijah Cox
Elijah Cox

wilykit/lion-o

no way, how big was the time-skip supposed to be?

Carson Martin
Carson Martin

Name what you want me to webm, and I'll see what I can do.
I liked Pumyra and I was so disappointed when she turned out to be evil.
It was a real disappointment. All that time spent making it out like she and Lion-O could be close and then, 'lol I work for Mumm-Ra' out of nowhere. I still don't get why she'd team up with the guy who destroyed her country and basically led to her death over the the guy who's trying to stop him.

Easton Jones
Easton Jones

Tygra fucking dies
Lion-O gets best girl

Was Dan Norton /ourguy/ all along?

Ethan Brown
Ethan Brown

/ourguy/
Found the newfag.

Owen Reed
Owen Reed

Found the sagefag.

Jeremiah Wilson
Jeremiah Wilson

Thundercats are deviantart-tier, they might not have snouts but they're still covered in fur, it's not too bad because the artstyle isn't detailed enough to properly convey this, but it's still gross when you think about it.
tl;dr They look like furry elves

Robert Rivera
Robert Rivera

Honestly it doesn't matter how a thing looks like, as long as its written well and consistent it shouldn't matter and the people who only focus how a thing looks like don't care for the product as a whole but just wants to cause shit. Not to say criticism shouldn't exist but art like this is nowhere as bad as you imagine. Unless you can draw yourself something better and write a better story or concept, the argument that something is deviantart-tier holds little water.

Jayden Bailey
Jayden Bailey

When I said deviantart-tier, I wasn't talking about the quality of the art, I was talking about them being covered in fur

Samuel Peterson
Samuel Peterson

I was talking about them being covered in fur
Like it matters, its a cartoon.

Jace White
Jace White

best girl

But Cheetara stays with Tygra…

Andrew Campbell
Andrew Campbell

They're covered in fur because they are cats. It's an attempt to make them closer to the concept of what the Thundarans were supposed to be, as opposed to making them strangely colored humans who made a few cat puns.

Angel Hughes
Angel Hughes

Maybe the original idea was bad to begin with?

Brody Morgan
Brody Morgan

Well user, do you have any original ideas that would be better?

Carter Jones
Carter Jones

Dan Norton
/ourguy/

Carson Hall
Carson Hall

Drops the mic….. Picks it back up…
Holy shit, this guy is something else.

Owen Ward
Owen Ward

Isn't he the guy who picked up a fight with one of the fans over Tygra?

Oliver Parker
Oliver Parker

Could be. I've gone back and rewatched the original series and it's dangerously cheesy at times. The show was initially created to compete with other shows like He-Man and sell toys, so the concept wasn't initially as important as the toyetic qualities. Didn't stop them from trying their hardest to establish a world and a storyline and make the characters likable.

Oliver Roberts
Oliver Roberts

OG Thundercats
Bad idea

Goofy, yes. Bad? No. The premise might've been about cat looking men fighting a mummy, but it had an underlying message about the importance of making friends and helping others. The Thundercats were refugees escaping their doomed world and had to accept the strange and different people around them to survive. In the process, they made friends, turned enemies into friends, and generally tried to be the best neighbors they could be.

The new series just said "Nah, we want to be Avatar."

Jayden Bailey
Jayden Bailey

Wow. What a cunt

Alexander Hill
Alexander Hill

Wait is this the faggot that ruined the entire show over his hardon for Tygra?
If that's the case then this is some maximum bullshit.

Robert Perry
Robert Perry

The original idea of "let's make a show to sell toys" was kind of bad. It's putting the cart before the horse, if you ask me. Even still, the creative and writing team behind the show did their best to make the characters likable and the world interesting, even if it was extremely silly.

Henry Hughes
Henry Hughes

The new series just said "Nah, we want to be Avatar."

Isaac Stewart
Isaac Stewart

it doesn't matter how a thing looks like, as long as its written well and consistent it shouldn't matter
the people who only focus how a thing looks like don't care for the product as a whole but just wants to cause shit
[JOHN K. SCREAMING INCOHERENTLY IN THE DISTANCE]

Jonathan Lewis
Jonathan Lewis

Honestly it doesn't matter how a thing looks like, as long as its written well
complains about people not caring about cartoons as a whole
What did he mean by this?

Adrian Moore
Adrian Moore

What did he mean by this?
user just fit everything into one post, but no this user was saying the Thundercats were deviantart-tier because of their art and I said otherwise.

Ian Stewart
Ian Stewart

are you the same butthurt autist that commented on it in the first place?

Adrian Gutierrez
Adrian Gutierrez

not wanting to fuck furry elves

Carson Lopez
Carson Lopez

Hey /tv/

Evan Wilson
Evan Wilson

POZ THAT FUCKING NEGHOLE

Michael Mitchell
Michael Mitchell

do you have a life?

Noah Williams
Noah Williams

/fur/index.html

What? I can't say hello to /tv/ while they derail a good thread with furry porn?

Joshua James
Joshua James

Hey /tv/

/fur/index.html

What? I can't say hello to /tv/ as they derail the thread with furry porn?

Colton Watson
Colton Watson

furry show
not posting furry porn

I'm sure the art director has his own private stash, considering he drew the little girl with the skimpiest outfit

Gabriel Hughes
Gabriel Hughes

10 years I think.

Well that bit about Mumm Ra's origins seems interesting. Always wondered what he was and what happened to humans in that universe.

"Nah, we want to be Avatar."
I've been noticing this trend with other cartoons like Voltron recently.

Joseph Martin
Joseph Martin

Click on picture
it starts loading
realize it's going to be the boycat
close image before it finishes loading
I'm glad I have slow internet

Josiah Ward
Josiah Ward

Hello Dan, still butthurt that your Tygra-dicksucking got the show canned?

Lincoln Sanchez
Lincoln Sanchez

Do you really not understand how autistic you are for blaming everything on a board whose population most likely has little to no crossover with Holla Forums's?
I think you're the real /tv/ shitter and you're projecting your faggotry tbh, because whenever you get back from a ban, or wherever you go when you stop posting, this board goes to utter shit until you fuck off again.
You probably weren't even a regular poster here before you decided to force this meme either, because the posts you sperg about are nothing new to this board.

Liam Jones
Liam Jones

THIS. THIS RIGHT HERE.
You. You are my nigga.

Jayden Campbell
Jayden Campbell

hey /tv/

Xavier Perry
Xavier Perry

all stories (especially good ones) have misdirection
it's how we avoid cliches
I'll never understand why anyone thinks this shit is clever. Throwing out everything you've established for a shocking swerve rarely works out, especially when you keep fucking doing it. It just inoculates your audience against giving a shit about your story because nothing in it is ever going to matter.

Carter Torres
Carter Torres

Specifically on Deviantart too. They were probably thinking they were so hot shit trying to make Thundercats the next Avatar, that they completely forgot to hire co-writers to manage the community. Its not like they didn't have the budget either.

user, its so obvious that you're talking to yourself.

Cooper White
Cooper White

truth

Robert Lopez
Robert Lopez

I don't know why they write their shows with the intention of having several seasons. Most movies tell their stories in under 4 hours, why would they need more than 36 hours?

Jaxon Robinson
Jaxon Robinson

Because its a tv show, some can run longer than others, depends whos incharge and their over all plan is. Or if the toys do well then it must continue, you're just bitching.

Levi Nguyen
Levi Nguyen

cheetara
best girl
Pick one and only one faggot!

Jason Adams
Jason Adams

You have to come up with a better alternative or else you're not allowed to criticize
Also He-man

Elijah Clark
Elijah Clark

still butthurt that you got roasted when you revealed your fragile masculinity over Pumyra being tough and not a cute anime girl?

Adrian Sullivan
Adrian Sullivan

you gay

Joshua Adams
Joshua Adams

what the fuck, I don't think that time skip is a good idea.

They should have introduced the first pedo relationship in western cartoons.

Henry Campbell
Henry Campbell

user, your shiftkey is broken.

Kevin Russell
Kevin Russell

I MUST POZ WILYKIT'S NEGHOLE!

Asher Martin
Asher Martin

Hey /tv/

Zachary Miller
Zachary Miller

sweet new meme
stale old meme
wilykit is the girl

Zachary Ross
Zachary Ross

wilykit is the girl
Like it matters to the lost shitposter, he only cares about two things. Getting back to /fur/index.html or /zoo/index.html and gay beast porn. But then again you seem no different.

Zachary Taylor
Zachary Taylor

is it a rule that shows with good animation must have shit writing, and shows with shit animation will have good writing?

Hudson Gonzalez
Hudson Gonzalez

No, there's plenty of shows with both shit writing and animation.

Carter Reyes
Carter Reyes

I wanted lion-o to kill everyone

Liam Torres
Liam Torres

A better one was, a show with a good opening is usually good, whereas a show with a bad opening is usually bad.

Wyatt Morgan
Wyatt Morgan

The new series just said "Nah, we want to be Avatar."
I would say the reason for that occurring is that Avatar is a good benchmark for a western written, anime style, long story arc driven animated series. On top of that it was also able to supposedly pull in a 50/50 sex split audience and a wide age viewing group. While Avatar:TLA isn't perfect (I can't think of any western animation that is personally) it is a very good example of what can be done. Not going to mention Korra's much lower quality, while TLA was out long before the 2010 Thundercats started production

Logan Young
Logan Young

roasted
throwing a hilariously insecure temper tantrum is now called "roasting"

Whatever you say, Danny boy.

Daniel Nelson
Daniel Nelson

Nah, there's still too much Tygra dick-sucking and terrible decisions like Insect Pumyra to be a complete "fix". I remember some of these ideas were being discussed years ago. This is just the first time they were put in a coherent, detailed recount.

Robert Evans
Robert Evans

Stay mad, Lion-O-Fags. Tygra/Cheetara is best couple.

Seriously though, did Cheetara and Tygra even have a proper conversation prior to this kiss?

Xavier Baker
Xavier Baker

just imagining your chuckling overweigh body shaking as you edited together that screencap expecting some epic replies from Holla Forums to defend you

well, it helps to know there's people more pathetic than me, that's all I'm saying

Asher Sanchez
Asher Sanchez

Requesting, the Lion-virgin vs the Chadgra

Andrew Myers
Andrew Myers

If you believe the show, they knew each other as kids but otherwise? No.

Andrew Butler
Andrew Butler

Keep sobbing into your Cheetos, Dan.

Brayden Nguyen
Brayden Nguyen

keep racking up those ebin (you)s, I'm sure they'll validate your pitiful existence eventually

Isaac Nguyen
Isaac Nguyen

On the one hand 1/10 shit bait, on the other hand you got me to respond. So, congratulations?

Leo Adams
Leo Adams

This shit is VINTAGE.

Grayson Cox
Grayson Cox

Hey /tv/

Logan Young
Logan Young

bumping to piss off the sperg

Luke Barnes
Luke Barnes

O dam how u no?

Camden Ward
Camden Ward

Egad! I am undone! I must flee!

Joshua James
Joshua James

lel

Carter Rivera
Carter Rivera

more catboys, you say?

Brandon Sanders
Brandon Sanders

Hey /tv/

Jaxson Ortiz
Jaxson Ortiz

Hey /fur/

Oliver Murphy
Oliver Murphy

MOAR RAPES!

Cameron Martinez
Cameron Martinez

/zoo/index.html

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