How many BTFO's do you guys average on a daily?

How many BTFO's do you guys average on a daily?

It's time give it up.

Communists could say the same, I don't hate the upper class, and I think they'd be happier without capitalism
Anyways this is a low energy thread and didn't deserve replies

Yeah, those neoliberals are extremely hypocritical

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You're falling for the bait if you think the puppets of the capitalist age are actually libertarians

To bad no matter how liberal you get, and no matter how much mathematical naval gazing you do, you still can't defeat the omnipotent contradictions of your favoured system.

Communists have been living in denial for centuries

Commies need to take an economics class

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Mayor flaw with libertarianism

t. Adam Smith

We've moved past the 19th century, please update.

I love it when capitalists inadvertantly make a compelling case for socialism.

Explain why Smith's conclusion does not still hold true.

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From "Max Stirner - His Life and His Works" By Mackay

It is. Boilerplate libertarianism explicitly calls for a state to protect property and enforce contracts reflecting the truth of Adam Smith's statement in some manner.

Rothbard had an opposing view, and so developed anarcho-capitalism as a concept putting doubt into that "truth".

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It's not a defense, it's a request.

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How does someone having an opposing view put doubt into anything? Why is Smith's statement no longer true? What makes it not true? Because it looks to be pretty fucking iron clad.

stirner is a meme not everyone believes in his ideology

For example, Marxists. Hey, that reminds me of something. Pic related.

I said it is true, there are arguments for and against the topic of that Adam Smith quote. Only these ideas have been worked on since then. The guy is quoted like it's the word of Jesus.

You still haven't made an argument against it.

What arguments are there against it? That is the question. The presence of contrary arguments does not throw the argument itself into doubt. Only reasoning can do that.

You guys are perpetually in a state of BTFO.

Both Rothbard and Adam Smith are men with opinions, not divine agents who can be quoted as the beginning and end of discussion. Particularly not Adam Smith whose ideas have been developed more than anyone these past 200 years.

Time for an update

That is not an argument, and I do not even mean that as a meme. A thesis being old does not make it less valid. Besides, it was updated by Marx.

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It's been updated by a good number of people. You guys are stuck at about 1870.

How is Smith(and everyone but ancaps) wrong regarding the necessity of the state for capitalism?

Your insecurities are showing.

I said the quote is true, that's not my argument. You're having a hard time.

Just because a quote is old doesn't make it any less valid.

In fact, it being so old is a part of the point. Lolberts and ancaps being the market fascists that they are, they like to imagine pure, Utopian capitalism that existed sometime in the past, but was corrupted by socialists and Keynesian big gubbermand. Showing a quote from that far back saying that capitalism depends on the state tears this view apart.

Yeah he's got some pretty hot opinions.

OI OI HOLD ON
*smack wallet *
SO YOU WERE SAYING
*cut down workers wages*
YOU TRIED TO TELL ME THAT
*eat pork not pig*
HEY HEY I SAID FUCKING HOLD ON
*sells a nuclear weapon *
HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF
*shoot a poor homeless guy in the head*
HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF
*bombard a workers union headquarter *
HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF HUMAN NATURE?
*sells 6 years old girl to slavery *

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“Bad news, detective. We got a situation.”
“What? Is the mayor trying to ban trans fats again?”
“Worse. Somebody just stole four hundred and forty-seven million dollars’ worth of bitcoins.”
The heroin needle practically fell out of my arm. “What kind of monster would do something like that? Bitcoins are the ultimate currency: virtual, anonymous, stateless. They represent true economic freedom, not subject to arbitrary manipulation by any government. Do we have any leads?”
“Not yet. But mark my words: we’re going to figure out who did this and we’re going to take them down … provided someone pays us a fair market rate to do so.”
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He laughed. “That’s why you’re the best I got, Lisowski. Now you get out there and find those bitcoins.”
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It didn’t seem like they did.
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Nothing. These people were stonewalling me. It almost seemed like they didn’t care that a fortune in computer money invented to buy drugs was missing.
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Too late. He was already out the front door. I went after him.
“Stop right there!” I yelled as I ran. He was faster than me because I always try to avoid stepping on public sidewalks. Our country needs a private-sidewalk voucher system, but, thanks to the incestuous interplay between our corrupt federal government and the public-sidewalk lobby, it will never happen.
I was losing him. “Listen, I’ll pay you to stop!” I yelled. “What would you consider an appropriate price point for stopping? I’ll offer you a thirteenth of an ounce of gold and a gently worn ‘Bob Barr ‘08’ extra-large long-sleeved men’s T-shirt!”
He turned. In his hand was a revolver that the Constitution said he had every right to own. He fired at me and missed. I pulled my own gun, put a quarter in it, and fired back. The bullet lodged in a U.S.P.S. mailbox less than a foot from his head. I shot the mailbox again, on purpose.
“All right, all right!” the man yelled, throwing down his weapon. “I give up, cop! I confess: I took the bitcoins.”
“Why’d you do it?” I asked, as I slapped a pair of Oikos™ Greek Yogurt Presents Handcuffs® on the guy.
“Because I was afraid.”
“Afraid?”
“Afraid of an economic future free from the pernicious meddling of central bankers,” he said. “I’m a central banker.”
I wanted to coldcock the guy. Years ago, a central banker killed my partner. Instead, I shook my head.
“Let this be a message to all your central-banker friends out on the street,” I said. “No matter how many bitcoins you steal, you’ll never take away the dream of an open society based on the principles of personal and economic freedom.”
He nodded, because he knew I was right. Then he swiped his credit card to pay me for arresting him.