Tfw the more leftist theory I read the more reactionary I become

In a nightmare, I am falling from the ceiling into bed beside you…

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In what sense and what have you been reading?

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I hate how it corroded and destroyed western culture into a husk of itself, I hate the rampant liberalism everywhere, I hate the consumerism, the commercialization, the identity politics and the general apathy people have. I've been reading fairly standard people: Lenin, Marx, Engels, Stirner, Luxumburg.


who are those individuals in top tier and god tier.

Name the last theory books you've read and explain how these individual works pushed you towards reactionary politics

Who is the one in the right in Shit Tier?

So you hate capitalism and you arent aware how cultural trends are just tools for the economic structure.

Bordiga (god)
middle of top is anton..pannekoek? pannycock? something

they were for lack of better word 'workerists', aka council communists. Working class emancipation effected by the workers only, without mediation by socialist or communist parties. Pannekoek is pretty great.

As to your first reply, maybe just kill yourself since you seem too stupid to grasp simple cause and effect.

One on the right in shit tier is Eduard Bernstien, the first revisionist. rightly despised and rightly placed in his tier. Althusser in shit tier makes me sad but oh well.

Ohhh thank you. Didn't recognize him.

They didn't push me more then it was just reflective thoughts that I had.

I'm aware of this all, you act as if they don't influence and perpetuate each other.

What I dont get is how you are becoming reactionary

Traditions and the like are just enforced subjective judgements.

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There's a difference between tradition and consumerism though; one binds people together beyond their class, while the other tears them apart despite their class. I don't see how having a society of isolated egoists and individuals won't be completely counter-intuitive to forming a socialist society.

Well, Oscar Wilde does a good job as reaching such conclusion.


I suposse that you are familiar with the concept of spook.

I assume you're referring to the soul of a man under socialism? I read a little over half of it, and I thought it was pure idealism and emotion.
obviously, but spooks are necessary sometimes. The enlightened revolution of workers won't occur till a long time later, and even during soviet Russia the workers were still uneducated–just look at nazbol's.

Yes, I guesses you would say that; the point of it is showing a possible coherence between individualism and the possibility of socialism.


No, they arent. Such are ideas are enforced relative judgements. Is pretty much forcing everyone to like vainilla ice cream because you believe is good.

Spooks are no guarantee of good education, if not the very opposite of it. Is more an issue of lacking an efficient education system rather than needing traditions.

obligatory

Good education has had ideals in some form or another. For the average person right now, they are completely consumed by spooks, for the average person several hundred years ago they were completely consumed by spooks. Where is the line between spooked education, and good education drawn? Are institutes like Harvard not spooked despite clinging onto concepts like their reputation, alumni, tradition, and shoving liberalism down students throats?

if bordiga was so adamantly against democracy why do leftcoms love him so much? What does he offer as an alternative and how is it different from vanguardism?

God tier: Bordiga

Top tier: literally who

fuq u

left-coms proving once again they are the worst posters on this board

God Tier: Amadeo Bordiga
Top Tier (from left to right): Raya Dunayevskaya, Anton Pannekoek, Alexander Bogdanov
Mid Tier (ditto): Vladimir Lenin, Rosa Luxemburg, CLR James
Low Tier (ditto): Karl Kautsky, Leon Trotsky, Antonio Gramsci, Julius Martov
Shit Tier (ditto): Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin, Louis Althusser, Eduard Bernstein

I don't agree with it on all of them 100%, it's just a meme i found, but its pretty accurate.

How can one put Bordiga in "God-tier" and, at the same time, Pannekoek above Lenin?

confirmed for not having read him

YES

Cognitive dissonance. Shit taste as well.

Read some Stalin. Let's see what happens.

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1924/foundations-leninism/index.htm


I can understand your hatred towards ML, but putting Dunayevskaya two tiers above Trotsky and a tier above Lenin is beyond hilarious.

Also, one has to note suspicious absence of Marx/Engels.