Trump's bid to depose Ryan (aka the American Health Care Act) successfully unfolding

They're just trying to meme this into a fail. Left is the very definition of insanity and of being high on their own product.

unless it's libshit salt, it's irrelevant. fuck whatever they think.

and it's OBAMAcare that's going to implode. It's (((their))) bloated, palsied baby that's going to shit the bed

Its not 4D chess to have contingencies in place if your primary goal fails. Trump wanted the bill to pass so he could ostensibly fulfill his campaign promise to replace Obamacare and move onto something else that he was more interested in. He also planned what he would do if the bill failed. Its simple binary game theory and risk mitigation, not some mystical 4D chess.

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This. Get those mining helmets and shovels boys, it's time to dig!

I honestly don't get how people don't see it yet. Trump's tactics are actually plain as day.

Trump just defeats his enemies by letting them stand by their work, which is fucking brilliant because its a tactic that simply can't be beaten.

That sounds like something out of Sun Tzu.

This isnt 5d chess this is some exponential level of chess. Like 5d to the power of d chess.

everyone here always wants to give gowdy a promotion. he's perfect where he's at. the inquisitor general.

In case you havent noticed the left hasnt gotten a single fucking thing right in a very long time.

Making your enemies believe they are winning when it is you who are scoring the points is the perfect strategy for setting yourself for easy further victories.

The night of the long knives is not too far off and the rosters of shill companies will be 'dealt with' at that time. Dont go and say no one warned you as you are shoved up the gallows.

Trey Rowdy Gowdy would be a fine speaker

This
I had not thought of that angle user but makes perfect sense, thanks for the enlightenment.

Trey Gowdy is a neocon puppet who only puts on a good show for internet clips to convince retards with short attention spans that he's on their team

Underrated post. This is exactly what you call psychotics who skew the polls and then forget that they skewed them, then believe the fake polls and make major decisions accordingly. Never interrupt your enemies while they miscalculate. Trump is systematically deconstructing their whole coalition.

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well they made it easy:
Tuesday Group and Republican Main Street Partnership

People are going to call you a shill but you have a point. He lead an 11-hour interrogation of Hillary Clinton over Benghazi which led to fucking nothing. Actually can anyone name a high-profile corrupt government official that Gowdy has put away?

Don't forget Gowdy endorsed pro-amnesty spic Marco Rubio in the primaries and didn't support Trump until there were no candidates left. And I actually don't think Gowdy is a horrible guy and probably one of the best among the den of vipers that is Congress. I just don't get his worship on Holla Forums, and think it's based on a couple of snarky youtube clips that made zero difference in stopping government corruption.

Here's a blacklist of well-known confirmed RINOs:

Lindsey Graham
John McCain
John Kasich
Paul Ryan
Mitch McConnell
Ben Sasse
Susan Collins
Lisa Murkowski
Marco Rubio
Jeff Flake
Charlie Dent

All them need to be purged.

So where is the contingency plan for removing Obongocare?

Wishful thinking, not for the time being and you know it.

But they just won you fucking retards. The right wanted Ryancare to replace Obongocare. The left wanted Ryancare to fail so that Obongocare stays.

Guess what happened? Ryancare failed and therefore Obongocare stays.

Trump said a million times on the campaign: let Obongocare explode; repeal & replace. He has to keep appearances as apart of the GOP, even make a half-assed efforts to reform Obongocare.
Well, now when Obamacare care goes under the DNC will own it, they could lose the entire congress if that happens before midterms since it would cause a recession and massive layoffs. If they passed the Trumpcare bill and THEN it went under, the blame would be on the GOP.

Duly noted

I won't call him a shill , I was wrong and will take my lumps like an adult

I'd like to add Jason (((Chaffetz))) to the list who keeps jumping back and forth on the Trump Train depending on how popular he thinks Trump is at the moment, and he absolutely slammed Trump after the access hollywood videos came out and said he wouldn't vote for him.

Actually, just pull up the complete roster of Congressmen and add everyone with a jewish lastname to your list.

I'm a bit conflicted on McConnell, however. No doubt his history is a typical AIPAC-owned neocohen. However, it took incredible backbone to refuse a hearing for Obama's SCOTUS nominee when everyone outside of Holla Forums was confident Hillary was going to win. Because of this action Trump gets to appoint "Fascism Forever" founder Neil Gorsuch instead of having kike (((Garland))) on the bench. Like him or not, he definitely has earned some respect for this.

I wouldn't call him a neocon. Slimy lawyer and politician, sure. But I've seen to evidence of him being a neocon.

He literally endorsed pro-amnesty spic Marco Rubio for President. I've harshly criticized congressmen who supported Cruz over Trump, but I honestly can't of a single defense for supporting Rubio unless you seriously want to turn America into a non-white nation.

foxnews.com/transcript/2016/01/04/trey-gowdy-why-im-endorsing-marco-rubio.html

They'd do that no matter what, though. If the bill passed, they'd be ripping it to shreds right now, despite the fact that most of the socialist shit they supposedly want got to stay in it. (Boogiefatass88 was still covered, for example. tbqph, I think congress should just use him as the final litmus test for any new healthcare bill. Don't come back to the floor until this degenerate mayonnaise-chugging retard loses his coverage.)

You have to wait you impatient retard, these events are just unfolding.

Literally not an argument.

Who cares what the left thinks? We got this far precisely because WE DID NOT GIVE A SHIT WHAT THEY THOUGHT.

You're a fucking imbecile.

Rep. Adam Kinzinger

and this gem,
Elise Stefanik R-NY

There are approx 50 more members of the Tues Group. It's "informal" so there's not a published list that I can find…have to do it one by one

The left is celebrating "the beginning of the end for Donald Trump" every 2 hours. This time he will be impeached for sure!
Pay some attention before you post nonsense like that.

underrated post.

I said he wasn't a neocon. I never claimed he wasn't a slimy open borders cuck.

drinking their own kool aid, if you will

If the right wanted Ryancare to pass, why would they call it Ryancare/Obamacare-lite? It's not that hard to know beforehand whether your own side will support or veto something before it's proposed. Keep up Holla Forums, you're embarrassing yourselves. It's barely been 2 months out of a minimum of 48. The party is only getting started.

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This is likely what his meetings with the freedom caucus was really about.

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No we didn't. We wanted both to fail and for Trump to implement single-payer healthcare for US citizens only.

Libergtarian free market filth are not right wing.

Gas yourself, strasserite.

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Single-payer only works if 40% of the population aren't a drain on society. The niggers and citizen spics have to go, or else they will abuse the fuck out of the system like they do with medicare and the emergency room.

They'll replace him with somebody worse, and the replacement isn't even going to bother writing up any more healthcare proposals. The insurance companies like the model where Kianga's hospital bills are paid by lawyers, doctors, small business owners. She goes to the hospital as often as her boyfriends go to prison. She is their ideal customer. Ryan's plan cut her and her ilk out of the system. He is being punished for that.

You're paying for them already since hospitals aren't allowed to turn away uninsured people.

The left celebrates Trump's successes often. Because they lack understanding. Everytime they celebrated something they think that would stump Trump, his support only grew. Because they're retards who don't get it.

They will still bill them and destroy their credit history if the bill isn't paid. This is better than insurance companies making a fortune from degenerates.

I pay for them indirectly now. I will be paying for them directly under a single-payer system. It will be abused by everyone with the current demographics being what they are.

Whatever law made it impossible for hospitals to turn away Kianga should be overturned. She should have her Walmart/McDonald's wages garnished. There is no fuckin reason I should to pay them. I can't believe the vote didn't happen. I should have a list of people that need to be purged for failing to pass this bill.

Kianga uses a fake name and doesn't have to show ID or social security. If Kianga gets shot and is unable to prove any kind of identification, Kianga can just walk out when it is capable of walking out. That's how it currently works.

That's it. I'm moving to China. Fuck this place. I hope China is preparing themselves for when the chosen unleash a fully niggerfied Afrimerica on them.

People like her and her sprogs deserve nothing less than the rope. Socialism keeps these wretches alive when nature would have already eliminated a good chunk of them.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

No one cares, faggot. The left celebrates everything as confirmation of their narratives because they ignore anything inconvenient.

archived an hour ago…not by me
I guess spoilers are next to useless
archive.fo/ukUBk

Every time.

88d chess isn't just a meme. While the left, libs, and kikes will be celebrating thinking they've won, they won't realize that it's all in Trump's plan to get rid of Paul Ryan in the first place and further drain the swamp. Paul Cryan is a dem in republican skin. Controlled Opposition.

Who cares what they're doing? They're incompetent.

The best part is, Trump has two options to follow up on that are a win-win either way. Either he now introduces his intended and winning trumpcare bill (since Cryan care trap backfired), or he can patiently wait for Obongocare to implode as intended and when no one has health care at all, he introduces his own bill then since the dems and populace have nothing when it comes to health care.

NOT TIRED OF WINNING YET

They did the same when his first travel ban got overruled by a cuck judge until they realized too late it was a distraction for ICE raids to come in and deport taco.

Here are the Tuesdays Mondays I have so far.

Tuesday Group -House of Representatives:
Charlie Dent, R-PA - (co-chairman)
Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill
Elise Stefanik, R-NY
John Katko, R-NY
Leonard Lance, R-NJ
Frank LoBiondo, R-NJ
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Fl
Dan Donovan, R-NY

I'm going to look for Reps that Charlie Dent has endorsed next

I want Steve King

I don't think it was trump, I think Ryan genuinely screwed up then Bannon made him the fall guy and frankly rightfully so.

I think this is the full list of "moderates". They should be bullied into submission or primary'd out in 2018. No more getting shot in the back by RINO cucks.

From the Tues Group PAC:
House or Representatives:

Beutler, Jaime Herrera (R-WA)
Bost, Mike (R-IL)
Brooks, Susan (R-IN)
Burgess, Michael (R-TX)
Coffman, Mike (R-CO)
Collins, Chris (R-NY)
Comstock, Barbara (R-VA)
Cook, Paul (R-CA)
Costello, Ryan (R-PA)
Curbelo, Carlos (R-FL)
Davis, Rodney (R-IL)
Denham, Jeff (R-CA)
Dent, Charlie (R-PA)
Diaz-Balart, Mario (R-FL)
Dold, Bob (R-IL)
Donovan, Dan (R-NY)
Duffy, Sean P (R-WI)
Ellmers, Renee (R-NC)
Fortenberry, Jeff (R-NE)
Frelinghuysen, Rodney (R-NJ)
Hanna, Richard (R-NY)
Jenkins, Lynn (R-KS)
Johnson, Bill (R-OH)
Jolly, David (R-FL)
Joyce, David P (R-OH)
Katko, John (R-NY)
Kinzinger, Adam (R-IL)
Lance, Leonard (R-NJ)
LoBiondo, Frank A (R-NJ)
MacArthur, Thomas (R-NJ)
McKinley, David (R-WV)
McSally, Martha (R-AZ)
Meehan, Patrick (R-PA)
Murphy, Tim (R-PA)
Paulsen, Erik (R-MN)
Poliquin, Bruce (R-ME)
Reed, Tom (R-NY)
Reichert, Dave (R-WA)
Renacci, Jim (R-OH)
Rodgers, Cathy McMorris (R-WA)
Rooney, Tom (R-FL)
Ros-Lehtinen, Ileana (R-FL)
Schilling, Bobby (R-IL)
Stefanik, Elise (R-NY)
Stivers, Steve (R-OH)
Thompson, Glenn (R-PA)
Tiberi, Patrick J (R-OH)
Turner, Michael R (R-OH)
Upton, Fred (R-MI)
Valadao, David (R-CA)
Walden, Greg (R-OR)
Womack, Steve (R-AR)

and a lonely Senator:
Kirk, Mark (R-IL)

Here are the membership roles of the "Main Street Republicans" it's a similar deal to the Tuesdays, but it should include some Senators in this mix of traitors.

archive.fo/PJmV0

Trump is playing nice with the cucks right now because he needs them to confirm appointments. It serves his interests for Ryan's bill to implode, and he probably guessed it would, but I don't think that's the reason he supported it.

I think he should go for option B and wait for it to implode. Then he could put forth single a single-payer bill that denies illegals coverage and free emergency room care. This would but white Berniebros in the position of chosing between their social democratic fantasies and spics.

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the right is celebrating too so whatever?

The Dilbert merchant has an interesting take on this; he claims Trump's motivation in backing this bill was not only to make Ryan destroy himself, but also so that he himself could suffer a "loss" the press could cheer about.

The reason, he claims, is that Trump's biggest problem remains that Hillary's entire election budget was spent on brainwashing the public into thinking that Trump is a dangerous, all-powerful dictator.
So Trump intentionally backed a turd of a bill in order to suffer a very public "defeat", and have all the lugenpresse crow "look at the stupid weak ineffectual dumb bumbling president, he can't do anything!" - which, without their realizing it, means they are undoing the damage done during the election.
Having a dangerous scary all-powerful dictator as president is motivation that Soros can use to make people get up and riot and keep dividing the country. Having a useless incompetent idiot as president just seems like business as usual, and normalfags won't get off the couch and block roads to protest that.

blog.dilbert.com/post/158812654486/trump-and-healthcare
archive.is/NXOCx

As usual, take Adams' interpretations with a grain of salt, but he's definitely right that the lugenpresse has switched gears from "TRUMP IS HITLER!" to "TRUMP IS DUMB!"
And you can't impeach a president for being dumb. Otherwise it would happen a lot more often.

Go back to CNN.

Great. We kept the chimping at bay. Wonderful. Other countries must be so jealous.

rightwing-er than you, dude

This.

The reality of the situation—which the left's leadership accepted before it was even passed, even though the rank and file don't realize it—is that ACA is going away regardless of whether or not the Republicans repeal it. Obama baked into it that all the "bad stuff" would happen after he left the presidency. So starting this year, the costs are going to skyrocket. The will be driven astronomically high. No one is signing up. There is no enforcement mechanism. Companies are dropping out of the program. Doctors everywhere are fleeing Medicare. The number of people who are covered is growing, but the quality of that coverage has plummeted. People are starting to resort to cash-only doctors just to evade this absurd legislation. Basically, within two years the entire house of cards is going to collapse under its own weight and Trump won't have to lift a finger. The Democrats will own that.

Their original plan was for this to happen with President Clinton, and then they would push a single payer system as a "solution" that was basically identical to what Sweden and the UK have. Of course with the added benefits of basically only charging white people for medical care and ensuring illegal immigrants have sex change operations for free and on demand. But now they're in full panic mode because that plan obviously isn't going to work, which is why they are desperately trying to claw at Trump as he thrusts a dry 2 foot cock into their collective anus.

Ryan losing accomplishes two things for Trump:

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I'm convinced no one on the left has read a single chapter of any of his books. They would immediately understand his methods.

When he offered to revamp the Wollman Memorial Rink in New York back in the 80s, it was after him and Mayor Ed Koch had already had a massive, public feud. So Trump looked at a skating rink that the city had been renovating for the previous six years at the cost of $12million. He publicly offered to revamp the rink for about $4million and said he'd finish it in 6 months, and that he could make the rink profitable again.

Koch, certain that this would be impossible, first tried to quietly deny it. But ultimately he accepted the offer, intending for Trump to fall on his sword. Well, he ended up finishing it in 4 months and $1million under budget. By that April, the rink made half a million in profits, all of it going to local charities supporting people suffering from homelessness and AIDS, which were the two biggest problems in the city at the time.

And what did Trump say?
"I hope I haven't embarrassed anyone."

Following that, Koch would always be at a disadvantage when engaging Trump publicly. Indeed, no one could take him seriously. He was constantly under suspicion for corruption, and was blamed for worsening race relations. He eventually lost his office in a primary election where he was unseated by his own party, which must have been soul crushing. And while you could likely point at any number of scandals towards the end of his career as the thing that killed it, Trump rebuilding the Wollman Memorial Rink is what sealed the deal.

And him winning the presidency? That's basically the Wollman rink story all over again, but instead of Ed Koch it's the entire fucking liberal establishment.

What about the Muslim ban

Didn't he vote for Hillary?

Neocon? No. Standard Evangelicuck Republican? Yes. The dude endorsed Marco Rubio for fuck's sake. He's one of those types who thinks as long as nobody is violating ethics or breaking laws it's great to have a country full of niggers, jews and shitskins. I don't expect any miracles from Trey Gowdy. He makes a good show when calling out corrupt bureaucrats but other than that he's as useless as nipples on a silverback.

This. Lolbergs need to fuck off to /r/anarcho_capitalism

Hoppe is just a subversive larper who idolizes (((Rothbard))).

If I can see Trump's game the DC operators can too.

I'd love for this scheme to work and for the loathsome Ryan to get fucked, but I honestly think he isn't going anywhere. The media and the usual suspects will be completely invested in keeping Ryan in place.

I wonder if Trump's strategy may now be to take things slowly as he can and hope to get rid of the troublemakers at mid-terms somehow.

100% correct. youll niggas need to read theconservativetreehouse.com

a judge just declared it consitutional, so now trump can go forward with it and claim to wait until the supreme court makes a final decisive ruling since the lower courts are in conflict

trump won the travel ban fight

Why are so many peoply extremely salty toward him? It isn't even long after he won the election.

are you new?

No but I am still puzzled by the level of saltiness. lol. This keep getting crazier by seconds.

The problem is that even if they can see it, Trump creates situations where people opposing him are fucked unless they play along with what he wants. The DC operators will realize that they will face a mini-insurrection from even cuckservatives since they will feel emboldened by Ryan falling flat on his face.

They will have to flip-flop hard right after bashing Trump and Ryan on this issue. They may indeed do this but this will fuck them over in the eyes of the people and even some on the left who were emotionally invested in stopping Trump and Ryan on this issue. So Trump gains if they try this stunt. In all honesty, it would be easier for them to throw Ryan under the bus since this failure will follow him no matter what he does.

So now Brietbart News is the main source of information for trump/pol/.

trump/pol/ has gone full neo-con Kike Republitard.

because you guys have no power… reading this thread it's painfully obvious you're just a bunch of dudes watching your tv's and pc monitors. You don't even have local municipal power. It's embarrassing be honest. Tossing around celebrity names like little children. "omg, he's my favorite… no no, he's my favorite now."

Get off your fucking asses and actually do something like run for office.

Niggers dont have credit. That was wrecked the second someone was dumb enough to give them a $200 limit Sears card.
And they dont need it with section 8 housing,buy-here-pay-here car loans and rent2own furniture and tv's.

He had to support it for the chess move to take out Ryan in the process, if he says he's against the bill, people on the hill will blame him. But, since he stuck behind it, the failure is square on Ryan for not being able to whip his own House into shape the way Pelosi did(this is good though, we want Ryan gone, not leading the way with a cucked Obamacare lite)

This very salt is my source of unwavering faith in him. Legions of absolute dregs of humanity have united against this single man, and it legitimizes him in my eyes more than anything could. God bless our President, and godspeed.

Get out
Local municipal power means you're a sell out bitch. Many of us here have power through business and commerce, which controls those little pawns in most cases. Hell, we also know the Trump team also browse here if you want your 'true' power.
Heard of Floor 7 before? Obviously not.

The Fourth Reich is lubricated by delicious salt.