Are you ready

Are you ready

FOR PACHINKO

how are they going to incorporate the exhilarating menu gameplay in a pachinko?

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

WEWWWWWWWWWWWW

Yes he is

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH

for now

SON

YOU'VE GOT A WAY TO FALL

What is this

its only a matter of time

Making a webm now

JUST

disgusting.boss

Konami death when?

Meme magic has gone too far this time.

Soon enough user.

I THOUGHT IT WAS A JOKE
SOMEBODY SEND HELP

We knew that this was coming. This is the meme magic that we've sown.

Look at that engine, you're never going to make profit if your still hanging onto the past. What about you, user? What's it going to be? Loyalty to your series or loyalty to pachinko?

jesus fucking christ

YFW they stole assets from a MGS3HD in development when they sacked Kojambles

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Too bad gambling addicts, the target audience, don't give a shit about MGS turning into this, and will play and support it anyway, as long it fills up the void is their miserable life.

I KNEW MEME MAGIC WOULD BE OUR DOWNFALL

my favorite series has already been reduced to pachinko

help

Just watched it and I'm really mad right now.

I love Metal Gear Solid 3 so much and know I'll never get this as a game. MGSV's gameplay on Snake Eater levels would be fantastic which is why its so maddening to see this.

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Todd would give it back to kojima right?

WHAT A THRILL

Todd would keep it but let Kojima work on it in gamebyro

Is this how it feels?

To see your child grow up innocent and full of hope just to be defiled until the end of its life by evil people?

Do you feel it Holla Forums?

Make it stop.

Right after Snakes on the Moon

Alright, here's the webm. I have no idea why it took so fucking long to convert. It's like a two minute video.

the ending we lost…
the remakes we lost…
konami sent us to hell, but we're going even deeper… we're taking it all back

user im already a demon

/agdg/ here. I'm gonna make diamonds from their ashes.

i was going to say, imagine an open world mgs with radiant quests but then i thought of…

This has legitimately made me unhappy

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THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS

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Kojima is a complete hack

FUCK
EVERYTHING

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konami using one of the most emotional scenes of there best game as a FUCKING BACKDROP ON A GAMBLING MACHINE

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I'm not going to watch it. I can't. I don't think I could handle being that angry.

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the power of meme magic

I for one want to see how much worse things we can make things.

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And the hope of having a single good game on Fox engine has vanished, well I guess Ground Zeroes was pretty tight.

Hell, I screamed in anger when I saw the salute.

Lol Kojima on suicide watch.

Nice to know that Halo fans and MGS fans are going to be in the same boat.

Even if i pirated the game and it is clearly incomplete, i wanted to buy it mostly because of how good they did the optimization, but what's the reason of supporting them if they don't even want to do proper games anymore?

Have you ever been so sad that rather than cry you just maniacally laugh?

has anyone asked kojimbles on twitter what he thinks of this crime against gaming?

By now I always expect the worst thing that can happen, to actually happen as long as enough time is given.

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I think he's pretending mgs doesn't exist. Pic related is from the latest hideotube video, he just walks past the guy without saying a word.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

The boss sounds like a fucking anime character. jap fucking shits

He probably didn't want the guy to ask him where act 3 is.

Why are we still here? Just to suffer?

The pain is real.

I want to wake up from this coma.

too much breathing tbh

It truly was a Phantom Pain

I dont know if i expected it and im numb, if silent hill 2 pachinko already broke me or im just already a demon at this point.

This is oddly meta in terms of the whole 'misinterpreting the Bosses will' in a way.

Looks like jimmy boy is jumping on the bandwagon again.

We're all already a demon, user. You, Me, Him, Everyone here

Could you fucking not?

looks realer that real life

it truly is the age of vidyakino

All for revenge, because im Big Boss, but so are you.

He's got a long way to go if he wants to be reintegrated into society.

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We know, Sterling. You're "for the rights of the consumer" but only when it benefits you. If the "for the people" rhetoric conflicts with the interests of your cohorts, or even your personal beliefs, then you'll weasel your way out of said stance and try to downplay or otherwise misrepresent the position of those who go against your personal agenda.

I feel fucking empty inside.

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He's too busy wishing he spent the budget better and actually made the game right.

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Are you stupido? It's 5 times the size, because there's 5 times the Frank

He's technically right,

you see, one of the ways video compression works, is that if something is not moving, like that huge empty background, it does not need to be updated every frame, however frank does; more frank means more information needs to be contained in each frame to maintain a target level of quality, and that leads to a higher file size.

Only if you have plebian memory and internet.


nice try tho

Needless to say, I am very disappointed.

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Oh, okay.

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Truly there is no hope for man.

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What bothers me most is this is what FOX engine will only be used for.

I didn't get that far in
good to know Konami has plunge their dick all the way through the corpse at this point

I think what somebody needs to do is go to Japan and smash as many of these fucking machines as they can. The Castlevania ones too


That's meme magic for you

Do you feel a lust for revenge, Boss?

I died laughing.

You are The Joy, are you not?

Castlevania was dead long before all this pachinko shit.

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And MGS died when V released, that's not the point

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even if they back paddled i dont think i will ever buy anything konami related ever

how the fuck else would you show a piece of sentence that you're replying to? With boring quotes?
"" - they're filthy and boring.
«» - no one fucking want to remember 0171 and 0187 just for using them.

The worst is when they use both "" and >
One or the other, fucko

I doubt they will come back though. They'll probably accept defeat and commit sudoku because muh honor.

too bad he wasnt quoting anything fuck knuckles. he was using it specifically in modern meme arrow style, complete with autism buzzword just for the sake of dispelling any doubt that he's not part of the secret 4chan hacker club

While there's some validity to your argument, it's clear that he's not actually quoting anything. He's using the syntax that greentext normally comes with, which is actually a sort of ironic quoting.

It actually provides an extremely useful method of idea conveyance which is normally impossible in English without heavy use of sarcasm and I think it's fantastic, from a linguistic standpoint.

both of you are getting A+.
And an ice cream 🍦.

every cloud has a silver lining

Finally someone sees it, too.

I can read the posts now

still makes my eyes roll so hard they almost pop out of their sockets whenever I see someone meme texting outside of image boards.

the audacity of these faggots

I love this outcome

Remember when Kojima received tons of death threats after MGS2?
I wonder how many death threats Konami is receiving right now.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

We have truly memed far too irresponsibly this time.

THIS IS WHY ONE MUST ALWAYS MEME RESPONSIBLY

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Thanks, black guy. When is the teacher coming back?

Man the konami CEO must be the biggest retard in the world.

His mian reasoning for switching ot pachishit was that the japanese goevrnment will legalise gambling soon. Not realising that pachinko only exists because real gambling is illegal.

Should have gone into casinos, faggot. Enjoy your pachinko machines when there's roulette next door.

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no, THIS is thread theme

Not to mention that he's too japanese to admit he's wrong.
In about 5 years karma will get to him.
I remember when Capcom was in a similar situation and only recently started to listen to the consumers again. Big companies take a long time to catch up.

Isn't there proof that the new Konami higher ups are from Yakuza families?

Would explain this shit.

Most of his retarded decisions are because he knows absolutely nothing about vidya and he actually needed his investors to him explain how vidya works. He also ended up getting into an argument with Kojima when he proposed to make MGS:V into a F2P game halfway into development.

AAAAAJHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH

VISION WILL BLIND
SEVERANCE TIES
MEDIAN AM I
TRUE ARE ALL LIES

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THERE WILL NEVER BE A SNAKE EATER REMAKE WITH THESE GRAPHICS

inb4 the source code for mgs3 and fox engine leak on the same day

I didn't know Cobra Unit had a new member called The Disgust.

The graphics really are quite nice.

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Or this one, take your pick.

I thought they were real people in the screen shots. Shits beautiful and they are wasting this engines power of a dicking pachinko machine

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

WE HAVE TO GO NUCLEAR
CRASH THE INDUSTRY WITH 0.00% SURVIVORS

VIDYAHU AKBAR BROTHERS

I rather get a Ghost Babel remake instead

and people call me racist when i tell them that asians don't have souls
this is irrefutable proof

Wait, was it actually confirmed that this is running on the FOX engine? I just thought these scenes were pre-rendered.

Looks better than FOX to me, plus it's much cheaper to use prerendered movies rather than sticking a nice graphics card in each machine.

I'm assuming it was just regular CG animation

It looks a bit like they're pre-rendered, but using the FOX engine for effects. There's no way they're shipping out hardware capable of running MGSV in shitty gambling machines, unless I just don't know stronk their pachinko game is in Japan.

nah, user. using > for quoting predates the majority of the internet. that's actually some ancient USENET shit that imageboards stole and adapted for shitposting purposes.

I know it does, but read the posts before that. We're referring to the way we use it now, which is a unique application, not how it was originally intended.

The Disgust has many forms, but this is clearly his natural state.

MEME MAGIC IS REAL

THIS IS A NIGHTMARE
A LIVING NIGHTMARE

pretty okay
it's times like these I'm glad I have my webm start volume at 10%

I'M SICK OF THIS BULLSHIT

wow

Someone end my suffering

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Every series I loved as a child was flayed and their skins worn by shitty merchandising and bad games. If you like an ongoing video game series, you are setting yourself up for failure.

The hardest part is not letting go. It's holding on to something even as it catches fire and scalds your hands to bone. I hope this is a valuable lesson in the horror of attachment. This post is not intended to be edgy, I'm just speaking as someone who has had to give up everything they loved.

STANDING

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I can't even be angry anymore. It was inevitable. From the OP images, I thought it was going to be a remake, but once again life has failed me.

I know pachinko is fucking huge in japan
but does it really need trailers?
that's the part I don't understand
its like making a trailer for an ATM
there cannot be people that are actually hyped about anything like this
MGS fans are too busy crying
and Pachinko addicts will use the first machine they see
I don't understand how anyone could think a niche like this deserves this kind of attention, even if it is making them a shitton

That's the thing I don't get. Is pachinko so wide used that someone who likes MGS will stop playing a certain pachinko machine to play the MGS pachinko machine?
Surely people play for the act of playing pachinko and don't care about the bells and Silent Hills whistles attached to it.
Even then, is someone who has no interest in pachinko going to play now because of the MGS logo slapped on it.
I just don't get it.

The only reason of our state of being is suffering

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Japan is like capitalism up to eleven. If you have it, you can sell it.

This is like watching Buffalo Bill dance in the skin of your daughter.

holy shit, that is an amazing cosplay!


o-oh…

Wait I think I've seen this post with the very same picture somewhere else before

I'm Still, in a Dream…

…Cash Eater

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;_;7

NOT AGAIN.
NOT AGAIN.

Imagine how much more impact this scene will have when there's hundreds of metal balls flying across the screen.

You asshole, I need a new drink now

that's fucking worse.


I actually saved this image when the issue came out

HOLY FUCKING SHIT I'VE NEVER BEEN SO MAD AT A GAME COMPANY LIKE NOW
GOD IS FUCKING DEAD

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daily reminder that Phantom Pain was unfinished and we'll never see Silent Hills because Konami didn't get along with Kojima and would rather make money off retarded japanese skinner boxes

disgusting


FOX Engine isn't that impressive.

Of all the games in the series they could have raped, they specifically chose the one which alot of fans loved the most. Forever tainting it's memory and the legacy of the people who made it. Also, Naked Snake doesn't even become Big Boss in this game until the very end, even then he doesn't accept the title. This whole thing just screams "fuck you."

The Boss never died for this.

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We are as marbles rolling around in an endless expanse, forced by the winds of fate to watch as all we know deteriorate to mulch for the new, ignorant, generation.

?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Go to bed Konami.

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Welcome, my friends, to the Mega Man club.

I don't get it.

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Most of those 100 are cheaply made spin-offs and remakes.

There's a number of factors.
In the eyes of long-term fans, Legends 3 being cancelled was almost as big of a deal as it would have been if The Phantom Pain was, although not to the same scale.

Gee, I wonder who could that be!

Hahaha a-all you fags m-mad, i-it's not like we didn't already know this was the outcome right?…right?…

*Coin Quarters Combat

Someone who isn't a cucked hideo iwo jima fanboy.

I'm going to enjoy watching Konami burning to the ground.

This is treason.

It looks so fucking good, too. A crime against the Fox Engine.

JUST

You know what hurts the most?
Konami isn't going down any time soon, they'll keep raping these franchises for atleast a decade straight.

We all knew it was going to happen eventually

Perfect.

The gambling laws in Japan are already changing. Konami is pretty much fucked. SNK Playmore has already gone back into making Video Games.

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I hope this shit hits them on their way out of the gaming industry.

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ARE YOU READY FOR THIS SUNDAY NIGHT WHEN THE WWE CHAMP JOHN CENA DEFENDS HIS

Wait, MGS is dead? About time.

fuck off go back to niggernet underage

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Is this some new niggermeme?

Don't worry user, your garbage series had it coming a long time ago. How does it feel to have your overhyped trash of a game turn out as shitty as SC Conviction only it's also unfinished and has denuvo?

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lmao MGS fan having phantom pains for the remake that never was

MGS is shit anyway so who the fuck cares

Thank you for your contribution.

STANDING

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two nukes wasn't enough for them

I see you're creatively bankrupt as ever. Your next line will be "lol, Manchild Gear babbies have always been the worst fanbase.

Holla Forums i hereby award you the title of Big Boss
You are a true patriot
now you know what he felt, when he pulled the trigger

Trust nobody not even yourself

Why are we still here?

Just to gamble?

Today we honor our comrads who have given their lives. to fight for us. to kill for us. to protect us.
SALUTE

Is there any chance we might at least get the models to use in other games?
Please just let me have one thing

The coins I‘ve lost…

Cause our piece hasn't been removed from the chess board yet.

The balls I've lost

At least they didn't live to see this.

The games I've lost

Fuck this thread. Im just gonna hide it. I cant handle this.

Okay?

I don't really see the point in telling people that rather than just doing it.

cant wait for another TB sing-a-long
damn what a great gaming community with those pro consumers youtubers
/jk

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just let me die

It's alright user. Just let go of your feelings.

Every time.

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Konami bombing when?

I'm not living, im just killing time

This planet is long overdue for an exterminatus

Why does all the bad shit that Holla Forums predicts always becomes real and all the nice things never happen

Please make it stop

I don't want to stay on this ride any longer

Look at history. Every oracle paid the price for his/her gift.

the jews already gave them another one though.

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Why the fucking hell is Pachinko so damn popular in Japan? Like every fucking franchise has a machine. I don't even know what Pachinko is.


This the case of the greentext arrow, it's clear that the quotation has gone beyond merely quoting what they say, but rather quoting their actions.

Pachinko is popular in Japan because it circumnavigates the current gambling laws by being a game that pays out in tokens, although these tokens can then be exchanged for prizes in separate exchange shops, which are usually right next to the pachislot parlor. I can't remember whether they offer cash or not.
The game itself is difficult to describe considering it can be a bit of a clusterfuck, but it's basically just a retarded slot machine.

Gambling addicts.

You shoot a bunch of balls and hope they get into the correct holes.

Imagine pinball but with no input from player other than the inital firing of the balls, making it basicly pure luck.

It's basically a slot machine but instead of pulling a fucking lever you adjust a dial to shoot metal balls at different speeds to have them land into holes to activate the slots. I think the appeal is supposed to come from landing them into the right holes to "play" the "game" but trying it in the Yakuza games I just couldn't see what the fucking point was, I'd rather just play Lucky Hit in Shenmue 2.

The point was you take all those balls out back to the little stand some guy is running (which of course is COMPLETELY unrelated to the pachinko parlor you were just in) and the guy buys them from you for cash money.

Again, in other words, gambling.

under rated post

This is absolutely awful. Is this what they fired him for? They were saving money for this?

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You're actually not helping your cause, you know.

I knew this would happen.

I'm legitimately confused.

Video games may not be as popular as movies, but they're currently out-selling movies and are considered a multi-million dollar industey. So why in back-flipping jesus would Konami focus on making pachinko machines, something exuclsive to Japan, instead of video games?

Its not like some no-name third party is developing these machines either, its Konami themselves making these. Why?
No, Seriously. WHY??

Is the Yakuza really behind all this? Is this just the higher-ups making bad decisions? I have to know this! Just,

WHY?!

You could make the same argument for pinball machines with licenses attached to them, although the pinball machines usually have unique designs to their name and involve skill to perform well in.

Because its extremely cheap to make and makes them fuckloads of money thanks to addicts

Everything we love in this world is killed. I hope Konami burns to the ground.

If you've been following japanese news for the last few years you will see some companies are lobbying the Japanese government to legalize gambling in the country, Konami's current CEO is one if these guys. Also he is largely anti video games and looking at Konami economics, you'll see that video games have been a net loss for Konami a few years now (jeez, I wonder why that is? :^) ) so the ceo basically shut down the video game sector of his company so he could ready his assets and video game IPs basically waiting the day Japan legalized gambling so he can have a huge power already over pachinkos. Whether or not he has Yakuza ties is little more then rumors but the reality is the Konami CEO hates video games and self sabotaged the video game sector of the company to have an excuse to sell out his workers and make money with a short term money scheme plan that is gambling that will hurt Japan in the long run.

Past members of Team Silent and Kojima Productions now make cell phone games and Pachinko.

So really it's just a loophole slot machine with balls? I still don't understand why so many video games and anime associate with them though.

Boy, its gonna suck for the CEO if the lobby gets rejected.

Who am I kidding? He's gonna leave with a golden parachute and Komani's going to shutdown entirely. it was a somewhat good run I guess.

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One can only hope

Hopefully it doesn't get legalized, then. Fuck'em.

I'm surrounded by casuals.

god is dead and konami killed him

Holy shit are you naive.

Pretty sure it's their #2 income maker according to their financial reports released to investors.

Well MG1 was going to have a remake using shit from MGS2 until they got C&D'd

Why are we still here? Just to suffer?

My bad, #1.

Why even live.

That's a shame because MG1 really needs it.

MG2 is a great game no matter what year (though I would like to see it in 3D), but MG1 needs a little love.

Regardless now though it doesn't matter, it won't be Kojima so I don't care if any remakes come out from here, I'll just stick to the originals. Shame really though because the Fox Engine held so much promise for a remake of MG1&2.

it's time to give up

This physically hurts me

God has abandoned us.

Pachinko is a type of slot machine

>Why the fucking hell is [slot machines] so damn popular in Japan?

pics related

People who think mobile gaming is the worst cancer in this industry are ignorant fools who have never had to deal with pachinko.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
REMOVE THIS HERESY FROM THIS PLANET!

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This is more fitting.

STANDING

Konami, has changed. It's no longer about stories, cinematics, or fun. It's an endless series of pachinko balls, played by addicts on flashy machines. Konami and it's consumption of yen has become a well oiled pachinko machine.

Someone needs to cut this down so that for the first minute it looks like a hype ass MGS3 remake in fox engine

then when it slowly zooms out to the pachinko machines, you want to kill yourself reaaaal hard

Sure looks like Konami is just daring MGS fans to do something about this travesty.

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The Kojima that made MGS5 was not the real Kojima.

The real Kojima has been biding his time, working on a new game studio. That other Kojima was simply going through the motions to make a MGS game for Konami.

here we go, the fuck you edition.

I thought that too. Way to set us up, then remind us of the mockery it's forced to participate in. Twisted the knife.

I'm going to have to ban my nephew from the internet for the coming days while slowly breaking the news, he's going to end up smashing the PCs in his school tomorrow if he catches wind of his favorite game of all time being mocked and besmirched like this.

I'm gravely serious about this, he already hates his SJW school as much already.

The best MGS theme makes it even worse.

ON THE EDGE
OF THE PARLOR

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Just wait, the jackpot will be called The Philosopher's Legacy

Eh, that would actually be pretty clever.

On a side note, its a shame that portable ops isn't really all that canon.
If I remember correctly, Portable Ops introduced the idea that Big Boss had got his hands on a portion of the philosopher's legacy which explained how he could pay for everything.

But I guess some long-shots and building up a business from the literal dirt is a far better tale of a man who just keeps losing everything that matters to him until he's driven to reject the world.

You know, I have a confession to make, Holla Forums. I… I have never played a Metal Gear game. I know. I have the first main one on PS1, as well as Revengeance, but I was waiting until I got all of them so I could play them all in a row, like I did with Silent Hill.

I've already had some stuff spoiled, like Psycho Mantis and Fire Whales and Nanomachines, son, but that just makes me even more eager to play.

I've heard nothing but positivity about the series aside from the NES games, and I understand that many gamers consider the series the pinnacle of vidya.

I can't imagine the pain of longtime fans - best I can equate it to is when Silent Hills got shitcanned and we instead got to HIT THE LEVER

But now, when I finally do play them, I'm going to only think about this unholy abomination. It's going to lord over every playthrough, like the dark shadow of Mordor.

And, you know, I've bern hurt worse by vidya - AssCreed, Gaylo, BioCock, AssDefect, Bamham…I was invested in those series when they turned to shit.

But, you know, I always thought that such a monolithic testament to the glory of vidya would be left unsullied, untouched, pure and, well, holy.

And now, this…this…

THIS IS FUCKING DISGUSTING AND I CAN'T TAKE IT ANY MORE

CASTLEVANIA IS DEAD

CONTRA IS DEAD

GRADIUS IS DEAD

TMNT IS DEAD

YU-GI-OH IS DEAD

SILENT HILL IS DEAD

AND NOW, METAL GEAR IS DEAD

WHY CAN'T KONAMI JUST FUCKING DIE ALONG WITH EVERYTHING THEY DESTROYED???

Well, at least something good came from this.

Unlike most other games, MGS doesn't become worse counting the years that pass nor the sequels it receives.

Every single entry, yes even MGS4 and MGSV, have positive aspects that outweigh the bads by so much that they need to be played.

Metal Gear is a series that explores so much of the gaming world that it just can't be taken away by prejudice, hate, or shitty marketing. They're all masterpieces in their own right.

Call me a kojimadrone, at this point I don't care. If liking good games is being a drone just fucking hang me and slap my ass.

Even now I keep thinking that perhaps they'll announce MGS3 HD but my cynical side is pulling me back telling me NEVER EVER

A group of human beings took someone else's work of art, something that person made with passion, something that person loved and cared about.

They took it, and they looked at it. They did not listen to it's message. They did not appreciate it's beauty.

They did not care.

They took it, and they turned it into a shambling abomination, a shadow, a WHORE to be sold for money. The only thing they care about.

Another group of human beings will use this. They will use it, they will not listen to the message, they will not appreciate it's beauty.

They will not care.

There is something deeply, fundamentally wrong with the fact that this exists, and that the majority of the world does not bat an eye at it.

I will agree with this in that if you ever needed a prime example of how to do sequels in terms of GAMEPLAY you should look towards the MGS series.

Each new game builds upon and attempts to improve on the gameplay of the former. Taking lessons learned and new technologies into account without EVER losing the personality of the last games.

The biggest jump is perhaps between MGS1 and MGS2 but you can see why the evolution is needed. then in MGS3 and 4 and 5 you see the evolution of the gameplay continue to grow.
Old gameplay elements are not necessarily discarded. Maybe repurposed or repositioned but never really outright discarded.

It is honestly such a big example of how sequels to a game series should be done right that the fact that its not talked about more often in gaming "media" lead me to believe its because other fuckwads can't live up to it.

Bioshock 1 and 2 are the same games and 3 is a fucking step back.
Mass Effect 1 and 2 are totally different games and 3 is the same as 2 but with a shitty story and lazy design the entire way through.
Resident Evil has abandoned everything starting with 5 and just gets sloppier and less like its roots.
Diablo completely shit the bed.
Starfox is just….
And the list can go on.

MGS4, yes. MGSV? No, not really. Nothing about MGSV makes it worth playing. Not the single player, not the multiplayer, not the story, nothing.

nah bro. MGS5 is great to play. Its story is just not all that great.

Here is what happened with MGS5, they found the popularity of everything in Peace Walker without understanding why that format was appealing to begin with, which was the platform. On portable/handheld systems people don't game for hours upon hours. They want quick missions they can play. Pick up and play in times of downtime when you're in transit or any other downtime.

They did that format but then since this is a release on major consoles and systems its going to have elongated missions and other things.

Then again, there may be some artistic reason to some of it too. You can spend plenty of time alone, with your thoughts, traveling between point to point when doing the side-ops. I used to only leave a map once all the side ops I could do were done. Plenty of reflection to be had while moving between objective points.

This is the most eloquent explanation of this travesty.

/thread.

Jesus, has the east become the west and are we all truly fucked ?

holy shit underrated post

the story was good and it was engaging, I was hooked for the ride. but after the ride ended it was really sad how apparent the game was chopped in half and rushed to finish. game could have been incredible if Konami didn't go crazy.

I am somewhat hesitant to place the blame on Konami for the way the game turned out.
So much shit is cut and chopped up. So much shit appears and goes nowhere. So many things just have those frayed little ends that lead me to believe that Kojima kept jumping from idea to idea during development.
I know a whole lot of people want to deny it, and certainly he does too, but I just get this feeling of an "artist" that keeps seeing new things and keeps getting "inspired" and with nobody really to tell him to chill the fuck out he is just constantly wrecking and causing the team to re-do a bunch of things.
Shit, consider that the code name "Ahab" isn't used ever again after the first mission where you rescue Miller.'

I am left with two explanations:

1) Kojima went full on George Lucas but since he didn't own the full rights to the IP or his own company to do what he wanted to do he got shitcanned by people above who were only interested in the numbers and cash he was burning.

2) Kojima knew full well what he was doing, intentionally sabotaged the story of the game so that the end result was something that nobody could actually be sure of which would fit in line with the comments of MGS4, how nobody knows the truth of Big Boss.

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