Criminal Girls 2 coming to US, its already getting "localized"

Games are expensive in Japan like roughly 60-70 for Vita, 40-50 for 3DS a good 70-80 for a console games. That said Criminal girls is like $45 on Amazon + shipping cost.

Nigga why do you even link to a Kotaku article? Shit even if it's archive give traffic to people that deserve it

nichegamer.com/2016/06/01/criminal-girls-2-party-favors-heads-west-in-september-2016/

lewdgamer.com/2016/06/01/criminal-girls-2-censored-release/

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I love the concept of video game characters requiring consent.

I hit new reply before reading my own damn post..

Who buys this crap that NISA can afford to keep doing this?

Still, I put NISA ahead of NoA because at least NISA says up front what they fucked up while NoA tries keep it under wraps till the game is released.

[] - Not butchered
[] - Butchered
[x] - Nintendo of America style

They're both shit, but at least you're right, at least NISA wears its bullshit as a badge of honor

NoA just tries to sweep everything under the rug

On their forums there are people that aggressively defend this bullshit. I always felt like it was clearly shills meant to stir up shit but after all these years I think millennials are just that fucking dumb.

Now that they're using literal SJW terms completely unabashedly, will you finally realize that NISA is no good? That they're most comfortable explicitly censoring out of their own free will so as not to admit they are a trash company that subsists on the wicked perverts they hate so much?

They're even finally admitting in their recent blog post that they don't have anything rated by the ESRB before they start "localizing" willy-nilly. Just what the fuck else do they need to do to finally convince you retarded shills?

I hate every single one of you pathetic thirsty-ass niggers. You should all kill yourselves.

Its archived idiot. That means Kotaku doesn't get any hits to its page

Companies bringing Japanese games over constantly do that shit, because in their minds they think the Japanese version will get the feared AO rating, even though GTA gets M ratings despite it being full of sex and violence.

They constantly overreact, as they already seem to despise fan service with a passion and do whatever it takes to nip it in the bud. Hell even VA's have admitted that they are in favor of censorship in Video Games when it comes to fan service

Do they seriously think the ESRB is going to give the game an AO rating because of this?

I know it's archived you faggot. What I'm saying is why even give Kotaku exposure even through archives when there's plenty of alternatives sites that have covered this?

I cant tell much different.

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK

The original is implying she's not consenting to what's happening to her

Millennials have been raised by the media to be very brand loyal and the ultimate good goys. They tend to think that companies are their friends and always have their best interest in mind. I'm speaking from experience here. I used to be a hardcore Nintendrone up until last year. I put up with a lot of their shit, but their treatment of their games recently killed any good will I had and pushed me away.

Nigga, calm down, you're preaching to the choir. Most people around here are well aware of NISA's shit. They know about the censoring and releasing broken games that have bricked systems. NISA's games usually sell like shit too, even for niche games, so I think their reputation is getting more well known.

I don't think fear of an AO rating has much to do with it. I think it comes down to that they find it "gross" and don't want to be seen as a company that puts out that kind of material. They also want dem sheckles though, so they just change the game to suit themselves.

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They actually mention this in their FAQ they have a question that says. "What about this game that is way worse and got an M?". They said some bulshit about yeah but that's just your opinion all that matters is what the ESRB says, we didn't ask them though.

This shouldn't anger me because there are more extreme games than Criminal Games (Like GTA and Manhunt) but the whole 'We want to stay clean because we don't want to be remembered for making that one problematic title' deal is fucking idiotic

Why not embrace it, fuck

do the nip devs dont give a fuck about the game sold to the west? or they dont know how their western consumers hate NISA for fucking shit up?

Hey anons, I just ordered a PS Vita and Senran Kagura the other day. Hasn't arrived yet, but what other weeb games should I buy for the Vita that aren't censored to shit like this game is? I'd start a new thread, but I'd imagine it would get filled with shitposting from the usual suspects.

there is a VITA general thread in the catalog, user.

That's what pisses me off the most: They don't even fucking ask the ESRB to see what they think. Like what said they just want to get rid of anything they find "offensive" and try and market it to casuals and normalfags, even though they don't buy games like this.

Criminal Girls 2 is a game made for a niche audience. There is a reason the first one bombed so badly: They censored the fan service so much that no one wanted to buy it. The same thing is going to happen to this one

No, I will not calm down. I can't. I've argued with these retards for too damn long, even here, to stay calm in a situation like this.

They know of NISA's evil, but even still they support them. That is not acceptable, and I will not be at peace until they have all been exposed for the pathetic censorship enablers that they are. They need to be mocked until they don't even dare show their face in polite society, if not to the point of driving them to suicide.

is there away to mail the nip devs and tell them all the shit that is happening?

Is there a fan translation for the first one?.

The Nips always put Japan first before anything else. We are simply an afterthought to them and this is a known fact. That being said, there are some Japanese game developers that are pissed about all this censoring. The guy from Senran Kagura, Takaka wants to bring over Valkyrie Drive so badly, but he's afraid its never going to happen because it'll get censored to death. Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 didn't come over because the devs were afraid of the game being censored. And there was one other company that I forget the name of, could be Compile Hearts, that said that if any of their games has to be censored in anyway shape or form, they simply will not allow the game to be brought over.

So yeah while Japan comes first, even the devs over there are getting pissed off about the censorship.

I think there is. I actually have the second one, though I haven't actually found a fan translation for it yet though.

Then again you really don't need to understand Japanese in order to play the game.

Compile Heart

Yes, they said that

archive.is/jUTyZ

So ironic now that you think about it

it wasnt censored enough for the normalfags

It's probably a matter of principle for the people in charge. They probably hate this kind of stuff and don't want to be seen as some kind of smut peddler. They could also be under the mistaken impression that the games they release aren't niche. They might think that if they clean Criminal Girls up and make it suitable for a wide audience that it'll sell like gangbusters. While in reality, it just pisses off weebs that would have bought it and dooms the game to failure.

Hell, if anything they would do much better if they embraced it. It's been shown several times that weebs respond well to companies that revel in it and don't act like they're ashamed of the product they put out.

They've probably been fed the same ol' "Well, we need to change all this stuff or else we can't bring your game to the states." We've already seen that Japan has been fed the lies and given the impression that the west won't tolerate any kind of lewdness.

But now you're seeing Japanese developers finally waking up and calling out the bullshit. They're getting sick of their games being censored because to them it ruins and devalues the hard work they put into it.

Compile Heart cares enough about its products that it won't allow any of its games to come over if it has to be censored in anyway shape or form.

I'm going to go with choices 1 and 3 for this. 1 because they're afraid of getting called out by gaming sites for pandering to "pedos" and "perverts" and they feel that it would damage their reputation and future job prospects. 3 because they think normalfags will see cute japanase anime girls, but won't feel disgusted since the game is censored to protect their innocent little millennial minds. Xenoblade X pulled this same shit when they got rid of the breast slider and changed on the characters ages, because they wanted the game to be played by "little kids" around their parents. This isn't a joke on the VA's even admitted to this.

They won't. Many of these guys tend to be progressives who support feminism. That's what California does to you sadly. Wouldn't be shocked if they all like FemFreq

or they could use someone that is not NISA?

Just wondering if this is going to be added to list of NISA fuck-ups?

Eh NISA is losing business anyways Idea Factory and Compile Heart fired them, Sega/Atlus fired them from publishing shit in Europe. I think the reason why they're doing criminal girls is because they pretty much have nothing else to do.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

This phrase above everything else they've said really just confuses the shit out of me. In this situation it makes it look like NISA just thinks it's impossible in a story for a woman to be less powerful than a man.

That's why it's important that we try and reach out to these developers. Let them know that we don't like what is being done to their games.

They really need to get their head out of their ass, get some perspective and realize that these niche types of games aren't and will never be big sellers like Final Fantasy or Zelda. Butchering a game to make it suitable for a wider audience doesn't automatically mean that wider audience will be interested in that game. Niche items are niche for a reason.

That's probably because that's what they actually believe. We all know that these types of people often think it's a form of rape, abuse, or just plain misogyny whenever a woman is shown to be in less control than a man.

I seriously blame Feminist Frequency for the rise of all this pro-feminism bullshit in the video game industry. Uncharted 4 got ruined because of it, and already Japanese games are getting censored because of it.

These localizers can't fathom why Japan isn't more into feminism. The reason is simple: They don't give a shit what we think

archive.is/uhfTf

This damage control.

Except the game wasn't even submitted before the changes were made

Listen and believe goy

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They've had 4 years to realize this, complete with dogshit sales for each and every single title they've ever tried to censor for "widespread appeal."

Four full motherfucking years, with various titles. Each time it invariably fails.

It's about time you realize they're lying. They don't give a shit about widespread appeal. That's just deceitful PR talk. What they really want is to just censor disgusting icky weeb games that they are forced to work on to make ends meet.

Learn to speak nip

wat.

It's not like the characters who are killed in 99% of videogames give their consent. Who the fuck sees this as a problem besides delusional idiots who can't distinguish fiction from reality?

archive.is/ns04I#selection-2951.0-2995.18

FLASH FACT

There's actually a term for what's been happening to Japanese games.

Bowdlerization. merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bowdlerize

See
But really holy shit they are in full on damage control mode now. And what he said doesn't help matters, considering they already said they never submitted the game to the ESRB before they made the changes they did.

This meme that localization means its okay to censor shit needs to die.

Looks like they are censoring any users that point it out.
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That was some high quality TOLD.

Oh wow, there's an actual term for it. Neat-o.

FUGGIN SLAM-DUNKED.

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Are we ever going to get a rerelease of all these games they censored, with everything intact?

We already did.

…In Japan. Better butter up your ass for that Kanji practice!

The fact that we have Senran Kagura is proof enough that shit like this has no excuse "making it past ESRB"

Or do these people not understand that the people who they are pandering to do not buy their games, or any games for that matter

They got ass blasted so hard they just had to censor him. So they do support censorship after all

Their "fans" keep bringing up the it costs money to send games to the ESRB excuse. That's not a fucking excuse. That's just you being a cheap ass about it. That and you already wanted to censor this game and didn't even bother sending the ESRB the original, all because its what you wanted to do in the first place.

I'm pretty sure all games that are localized in NA have to be submitted to the ESRB, so I'm pretty sure whomever said that is full of shit

All they would have to do to shift the blame to the ESRB is to send the original game intact for a rating. The fact that they never do that, yet constantly use the ESRB as a scapegoat, makes it seem like they are lying.

If they honestly didn't want to censor these games, they would just take a small loss to rate the game twice (I think it's like $800 for a rating), and then use that as proof that they did everything they could.

If anything, buying shit online is easier. He's just making excuses, trying to cover NISA shit-stained ass like a bitch.

I don't think all games HAVE to be rated, but most retailers and digital services will only sell games that have a rating. You rarely see hentai games with an ESRB rating for instance, because most of the time the translator (Mangagamer, JAST etc) just sells them through their website.

So they don't want to pay the money to have a game rated twice, but they're perfectly fine with paying all the man hours it takes to change all the artwork and remove chunks of the game (which probably ends up costing them more than just rating the game twice).

Shit that was a good read. Sad that he got censored for trying to shed the lightnof truth on the subject. When will these groups die off? How many failures will it take before Japan either stops trying to send shit out west or does directly by themselves?

If anything, they use the excuse of "localizing" the game out west to change it to whatever they want and pocket a nice amount of cash that Japan pays them to "localize" it.

But we have a word for that now

Why the fuck do they insist on bringing over more trash. If THIS is the fucking best companies like xseed or nisa can bring over then why even bother.

There arent enough porn games.

Whichever one of you just made a burner account to post this did good.

archive.is/7DNZ1

If these games actually had porn it'd be one thing, but that'd never happen thanks to sony.

Its close enough really. Who knows, if the uncensored game does well, maybe we'll actually get some hardcore porn games in the future. challenge is my fetish

Why do they even bother?

dat post count

Why did that dude even bother? They'll never listen, they'll only delete the post and ban him anyway. What's the point?

Because if contrary opinions are never voiced for fear of consequences then it's easier to marginalise that view. If nobody speaks up against this bullshit it's never going to stop.

What if, hear me out, what if we all spam that shit on the fourms. If enouh of us do it, then they might get the message that theyre losing ALOT of customers with the censorship.

it'd take more than just approximately 30 of us. It'd have to be a nearly-Holla Forums-wide event to make any impact. if we could make it happen though…maybe that could work

I'd be way more willing to believe this if NISA weren't caught lying several times before. Although I bet this mod is just some clueless guy who was told that buy his bosses so he is spouting it back out.

I think it's more about ideology than money at this point. There's no way that they can be blind to the fact that censoring niche games is bad for business.

Money talks, and if the people are going bankrupt, as in running out of companies to localise from, then either they go out of buisiness or have to nor censor games. Nisa is done in about 2 or so years.

Yeah all their contracts seem to be drying up. The only reason why I think they are doing this game is because NISJ made it.

No, it wouldn't. The first time they tried their censorship, with Mugen Souls, they weren't so wise and judicious with the censorship.

Their forums fucking exploded. Absolutely goddamn exploded. The Mugen Souls thread rocketed up to, I believe, at least 60 pages of back and forth shitflinging, most of it negative, in record time. It was very clear that everyone in the weeb-circle, from all manner of sites, rushed over to make it obvious how much censorship was unwanted. Same thing happened for Mugen Souls 2.

It didn't help, and this is why you see the censorship and trigger-happy mods in the forums right now. They've wised up, and they know they need to SHUT IT DOWN real fast, in real time, so that they can have a nice consensus on the narrative that censorship is totally okay with their "audience" and just a "necessary evil." It's just prettied up under the guise of "be nice to each other :)."

Sorry if this response comes late. Sites still pretty fucked for me.

Who are they going to blame once this "localized" game bombs as well?

archive.is/wQZUM

Mysoginy?

Gamergate

DAMN YOU GAMERGATE!

So… What's so bad about NISA? I'm playing Fairy Fencer F right now and I can't see anything particularly wrong?
As far as I'm aware, the only bad thing they done is break games with their localization and not fixing them, which is hardly a problem when some modders fix the games.

If you pirated it, good for you. If you bought it, you're a cuck and should kill yourself

Im guessing you havent noticed the memes, bad translations, dlc, changing shit just because. I remember an user saying they changed a characters name from etsy erhart to etsy dee just to make an std joke.

God, I love this first image. Makes me smile every time I see it.

God's speed you magnificent bastards

Please explain to me how can i "fix" my nisa game on my ps3 that doesn't work that has also bricked my ps3?
Entertain me.

They don't really stand a chance in silencing this this time I mean Nintendo and Square couldn't and they're way fucking bigger. This is the first time they've done this after all the censorship has blown way the hell up. The wave of shit heading their way will hopefully wash them away.

NISA is really weird and sometimes they're fine. However sometimes usually with games whose entire point is fanservice and titillation they decide to censor fucking everything in the game. I honestly don't know what urges them to do this shit maybe they just have a certain localization team that is fucking trash or something.

Do not take the bait

They did that for Mugen Souls, it didn't work.

The people that would get pissed off at this would not buy a japanese rape game like criminal girls.

Where's that image of everything wrong that NISA did go?

Come on user…

Care to point them out? This is not Xenoblade Chronicles again, right? Unless I see something like the doge thing Nintendo did in Tri-Force heroes, then I wouldn't say there are memes. So far, only saw an obscure reference and considering that, I might be wrong.

You CFW your PS3 and look for a patch. Too bad it fucked your PS3, tho, I'm seeing how it can happen, in fact, if I wasn't aware of it I would have fucked mine.

However sometimes usually with games whose entire point is fanservice and titillation they decide to censor fucking everything in the game.
That sounds pretty bad.

That would be useful.

Problem is that most of their games today are for the PS3, PS4, and Vita. Out of those only the PS3 can be hacked completely (CECH25xx slims and older). The rest are not, and not all of their games come out on PC.
Back on the PS2 days, having a softmod or modchip helped for Ar Tonelico 2, but today it's not that easy for modders. Nowadays games can be patched directly via internet, but NISA is so shitty that they don't even care to release bugfixes.

For Natural Doctrine, they put in dual audio but endings were left unsubbed if you used JP voices. Their answer wasn't to patch that, nope. It was to tell players to switch to english audio for that part. Fucking ace.

NISA seems to be more competent when they're being watched, however. Spikechunsoft makes sure they don't fuck up bad, and I just beat DR: Another Episode last week… I can say, DAMN, they didn't touch shit - this is a game where the antagonists are kids that murder adults and each one of them has a dark past to tell from parental to sexual abuse for instance - also fuck monaca holy shit
NISA being NISA however, they're still hilarious: I played with the JP track which is a separate 1.8 GB DLC (fuck) and they still screwed up by leaving one minor FMV unsubbed (turning on light switch at Towa Tower).
I enjoyed the shit out of DRAE in the end, good thing Spikechunsoft keeps an eye on them.

On the other side of the scale, Criminal Girls is a NIS game, and the head honchos over at NIS aren't like SC - they don't fucking care about what NISA does with their game.

Seriously? I got a CFW PS3, but that's still an issue for most people - not everyone has CFW, and unlike the 3DS which can be widely downgraded, you can only downgrade PS3s that had 3.55 or lower at factory - ruling out any 30xx slims and superslims.

Witch and 100th PS4 has an Asian version with full dual language support. It uses the same PS3 NISA script, so for those who don't want NISA to get a cut there's that option.

I don't think it can fit in one image, but here's some samplings:

Well, you can just ignore those that can't be pirated. As I always say, if it can't be modded, it doesn't worth it.

This is the only legit complain I've seen. There was even a guy kind enough to fix that witch game for them and they just ignored him.
They do look like assholes, but nothing that would prevent me from pirating their games, like bad stuff.

Wew. Now I'm not really sure. But without knowing moon, there's really little option.I think the only game with fan translation in PS3 is Tales of Vesperia.

There wasn't a way to hardmod PS3s with

whoever let the "localization" go gold should have went to prison.

Buttblasted tranny and or a lesbian studies major detected.

LOL!

Well, that's the PS3 situation. PS4 and Vita are still impossible to mod on, so short of the game getting a PC version, fixing NISA's shit via mods is still not possible.
It's also a bigger challenge because the original JP games are not on PC, so further work is needed to 'port' things over.

You can CFW any PS3 that had 3.55 or lower when it was built. Next batch from Sony back at '11 came with 3.60 and those will softbrick if downgraded. There are ODEs for the newer systems, but they're not as feature filled like CFW consoles.
There's a partial patch for Onechanbara +Nonono aside from TOV (which by the way is fucking great - had a blast with it).

I don't get this. The whole point of the game is making these CRIMINAL GIRLS do things they would not want to consent by because they are CRIMINALS. These people have fucked up heads when they have to ASK CRIMINALS to take punishment for their actions.

Rope is gone, which is kinda the whole point of the pose. It looks weird when she's squatting like that without restraints, like shes gonna piss on the ground or something.

It's pretty much all they have left now. Gust went to Tecmo, and Idea Factory want nothing to do with them anymore.

I can only imagine some dystopian future where fictional characters are given the same rights as real people. Every writer, artist and director will need to register each and character with the government and anything bad that happens to them in any media will be punished by law.

Every possibly type of creative media will become the equivalent of the baby channel.

SJWs are pretty damn delusional and often have trouble separating reality from fiction. This tweet is from the writer of a Marvel superhero book. That's right, it's a superhero book where no one ever gets hurt unless you're a white dude. It's like they want everything to be bland and conflict free.

Isn't Criminal Girls purely a fanservice game? What the fuck is the point of a censored fanservice game? Hell even fucking Kotaku complained about the censorship of the first game when it came to the west.

And to make it even more hilarious it's fucking NISA again.

WHY EVEN BOTHER

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I assume the top quote is from THE Chris.

What a convenient meaning. I wonder if any other word has it ?

I speak from experience when I say that harming your own characters is easy as fuck. You go full G.R.R.Martin on their asses while chuckling as you think about all the butthurt it'll cause among your fans, or having fun writing the plot tists that usually go hand in hand with it or something. Why? Because for all the effort you put into making them alive, putting yyourself in their position to write them well, etc., you still know full well that they're just figments of your imagination put on paper. That is, unless you're projecting something onto the characters, at which point it can become a pretty sensitive topic.

The fag in your pic is porbably a big pussy that thinks the characters are his imaginary buddies and what not

Exactly. Censoring a fanservice game is literally killing just about the only good thing the game has going for it. After censoring, it's not worth playing, plain and simple.

It's easy for G.R.R.Martin because he can't write good characters at the start, so he has no issues harming them because there's very little about them to begin with.

Harming a good character is slightly more difficult to contextualize, but still doable.

THIS NIGGER DID IT. HE WENT FULL FEMINIST.
archive.is/BGjeq

( here's the previous page as well: archive.is/RLrgO )

The one and the same. I saw some user posting some other comparisons between CWC's past comments and Kate Leth's current ones and work. The resemblence in behaviour is uncanny.

She's a Holla Forums-related writer. She helped turned pic A into B. Form your own conclusion.

Except that hasn't worked for the first Criminal Girls game, either of the Mugen Souls games, or the Japanese version of Star Ocean 5. Fire Emblem is the only game that worked for, and even then the numbers are questionable and nintendrones are known shiteaters to begin with. Same goes for the Street Fighter crowd.

So, I wanted to see the reaction on the steam forums page for their first game and found
literally nothing.

Wasn't it supposed to have been released already? Did they quietly remove it from the store?

Oh wow, that's fucking odd. I remember seeing that pop up in my recommendations on steam YESTERDAY.

Balance of power?

It's a fucking video game, nothing you do to these fictional characters matter because they aren't real. I suppose this fuckwit doesn't care about all the make characters and monsters that are constantly killed in video games.

Just in case NISA needs to be burned at the stake

Wow, I might just look into Senran Kagura now. That scene made me laugh for several reasons.

What the fuck are these niggers even doing near NIS games?

GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY WEEBSHIT

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Tbh, the right one looks much cuter. The left one looks like a BBC slut. There should be a balance between the two, but I actually like the toned down design better. Maybe giving her a short skirt instead of pants would be really cute.

This. These people have annihilated western anime fandom as well.

So what exactly "is it" with the censorship besides an inferior product? The fucking series banks itself on sex appeal, lets not beat around the bush here this is a mediocre RPG for weeaboos who like big titted short-stacks and pseudo-lolis in lewd situations. The RPG is just the sprinkles on the sundae.

Who is this aimed at after censorship? Being a member of the above mentioned group I certainly won't be buying it, and I know normalfags won't be buying it(or even aware of it), and I know SJWs certainly won't be buying it because they don't buy fucking videogames.

Why are we still doing this?

There are probably just enough censorship apologist weebs with the "if we don't buy it they won't release more!" attitude to keep them afloat. And if you look at the forums there is a shitload of thirsty faggots that practically beg NISA to shit in their mouths.

Good idea, I probably should have archived as well. Here have v2. Not that we don't have enough dirt on NISA as is.
archive.is/G3Tir
archive.is/FSKt7
archive.is/c0nai

Thing is, which design gives you the impression of an ayy lmao vampire seductress and which one looks like Claire Redfield she came out of Buffy? Or better yet, which looks like she could rip you apart bare-handed without breaking a nail and which is holding a weapon like a limp-wristed child?

Also, ask Holla Forums about Hellcat. Enjoy the cringe.

I don't care fam. Claire meets Buffy looks like a cute anime grill.

(CHEKT)

She feels a little tumblry to me. just a vague feeling though.

it didnt work for Fire emblem though. The total numbers for three skus at launch vs the 1 sku of the previous title show that fire emblem was actually not a runaway success.

They threw a massive amount of advertising behind FE fates and it only did marginally better then the previous game that had NO ADVERTISING.

And on the Used and second hand markets the previous game is going up in price because of the butchered translation.

nothing tumblry about hotpants/spats creating absiloute territory on a good body with twintails.
Only thing you could say about that is muh dick

why am I so dumb?

Might be time for some good old fashioned trolling.
There's my idea for the day. Run with it if you want anons.

It's times like these I wish I had good shooping skills

SJWeebs must be gassed.

Jesus.
By the by do we know if nisa are handling publishing of Persona 5 in the EU. They did for P4G, at least in the UK.

Also.
Hue

I'm pretty sure when they pick up an already-localized game for the EU they don't do anything besides slapping their logo on it. See Trails of Cold Steel. I hope I'm not wrong on this.

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can we push it into the faces of people who still claim this is localization?

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Remember that NISA is garbage at QA as well. Whenever a game is censored by them, it also comes with horrendous bugs. Disgaea 5 didn't have anything censored and it was fine. Same with Demon Gaze and Natural Doctrine. When watched by someone else NISA can be decent.

However when they run wild, you get things like Witch and the Hundred Knight being unbeatable due to bugs. Ar Tonelico 2 causing you to grind because the game breaks if you don't beat the second to last boss in under 3 turns. Mugen Soul's bathing minigame makes you overpowered because the bathing minigame game you a certain buff depending on what you did. By removing it, they tried to balance it out by making the, now non-existent, mini-game give you every buff. Not only that but post game dungeons are bugged.

Even if you don't care about censorship, butchered products by NISA are buggy messes that even ruin the gameplay. So you're not just losing context, you're losing mechanics and even the ability to properly play the game. Simply put, boycott this game. You aren't even getting the full experience by buying it used.

Oh and NISA DOES NOT fix their bugs. So even if you buy it in the future, it will still be a buggy messes. People ignored Witch and the Hundred Knight remastered because people had no clue if it was still buggy.

here we go again

Will they also turn all the girls into niggers?

The thread is still rolling. I think these guys might've shaken the boat up a little bit over at NISA.

All of page 8: archive.is/ynQk3
All of page 9: archive.is/QpOBc
All of page 10: archive.is/y7Mho
Currently page 11: archive.is/m2203

Page 11 will probably need updating soon, since the thread is still going.

Precisely

That last one is fucking great.

YOU'RE NOT MAKING ANYTHING, YOU'RE JUST BUTCHERING SOMETHING PEOPLE WITH TALENT MADE HOLY FUCK I AM SO MAD

That Rednal is such a cock slobbering retard that I can't believe he's doing it for free.

Steins;Gate 0 soon, fellow lab mem.

How? Why?

You think that's bad?

So 34k poster has been there for 1 year shorter than 16k, yet has more than double 16k's posts. I am at a loss for words.

Dude has averaged over 15 posts a day on the NISA forums since he joined.

What the fuck.

Who cares it's shallow non games. Phone game tier. Yet you'll laugh at girls for playing shallow phone games. You're the same as them.

But user, this is softcore porn.

Apparently the reason why they aren't releasing the game unedited on PC is because of NIS company policy to not release unrated games. If there's anything in here I'm willing to believe, it's that, since lord knows that nothing is more stubborn than an old Japanese businessman.

Sounds like yet another excuse to me, since they can't use the ESRB as a scapegoat for a PC release.

Why not watch good softcore porn instead of this trash? Look at the characters, are they from BRATZ(TM)?

It could be, but if you've ever had to deal with Japanese companies it honestly wouldn't surprise me if they're telling the truth about that.

Maybe they are lying, but personal experience makes me want to give them the benefit of the doubt on that point.

how about telling them to fuck off instead so they'll stop releasing half-assed localizations of pedo games since they're making us such a favor and we can't appreciate it just like entitled whiny children

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It just keeps getting better and better holy shit.

Gotta go to work, one of you mind staying on this? I won't be able to even lurk the thread while I'm at work, let alone jump between here and the forums.

Interesting how literal no-life scrubs think this is some kind of valid fucking argument against criticism.

This is what you get for buying this shit you fucking weaboos

Just pirate it

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Nice self burn there

They're brand new accounts because they don't want their established ones to get banned.

Sold it :^)

I'm just making sure this cancer thread stays in the bottom

If you niggers don't want to get your fap sim censored then just buy the import or pirate the fuck out of it, stop giving these sjw shits your autismbux shitheads

Or better yet: why don't you dox the localizers and let their families know their "job in tech" consist on translating mongolian pedogames

Bet you none of them told mom and dad thats what they are doing with $200,000 of student loans

I was fucking saging because i wasnt contributing to the conversation in anyway, dumb ass.

I'm going to bump for you.

Into the filter you go.

I assumed it was just regular people that read the article and wanted to bitch on their official forums thinking they'd be able to change a few minds. Like what people in this thread are doing. It's irrelevant anyway as that's not the point. My post count ≠ value of my opinion when everyone knows my opinion >>> your opinion.

So you're literally trying to downvote it.

HAHAHAHA I was looking at the forums and someone posted this image about the old NISA bullshit justifications on mugen souls, and what a fucking surprise, we find the same retarded sycophant sucking it up at the bottom there, even though their narrative is completely different. This shit writes itself.

Houk still has some jizz on his chin from all the cocks he's been gobbling

If you get anything from NISA, you deserve getting the shaft.

This is what being completely out of touch is a game's intended audience sounds like.

Having a forum full of drooling fanboys probably doesn't help them understand their real audience either.

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Fuck you buddy.

Shit

Suddenly I feel interested in Neptunia.

-Jake Fahey, Kotaku
What the fuck am I reading? This kind of self-awareness and logic is unprecedented at Kotaku.

>>>/reddit/

Here is some updated links for everyone's enjoyment.

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No faggot, don't pay any money for this shit regardless of whether or not NISA gets it. They release broken games and never patch them. Read the thread.

Buying it just for that user.

Holy shit, you can't make this up.

I'm glad I induced you to waste money.

Hey it's that girl from that one Seismic animation.

This. I'm still baffled as to how something like that can exist. SJW weebs are like a non-smoker that buys cigarettes and bitches about how irritating the smoke is whenever they light up.

We all do user.
We all do.

So, odds are good that he's some fucking variant of the goony beard man trying to white knight some nebulous m'Lady concept in the hopes that it gets him laid? This just feels like a case of Airport's Law playing out.

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Airport's law?

Airport's Law: Every day another goony beard-man gets the impression that a rainbow haired she-twink might let him cum in her if he attacks gamergate.

In the general sense though it pertains to beta-orbiters acting like thirsty cunts and toeing the SJW line in hopes that they might get some action.

I can't get over just how inept some companies are.

A femenist who doesnt like vidogames but still shoves their bullshit agenda into it? Color me fucking suprised

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The one thing to remember is that learning a language is a long a boring endeavour until you hit that moment when you can start learning the language in the language itself.

If you start now, you're disciplined about the number of hours and efforts you put in, in two years you'll have made enough progress to play vidya in moon runes, but statistically speaking you'll probably give up halfway through.

If this isn't a terminal case of "does it for free" than it's clear that they're paid shills.

I can attest to this. Learning Nip has been so much easier and more fun once I started playing games.

so basically play nip games as you teach yourself the language?

Well you need a decent understanding to start playing games, but after that it's just a whole lot of practice.

Melted PS3 speaks louder boyo

That was probably me. I point it out whenever I see people talking about NISA, because it's such a stupid change and encapsulates the utter displeasure NISA seem to have when translating another human being's work. It's been years, but this will never stop pissing me off.

Fuck NISA. I'm glad Atlus are finally dropping them. I'd rather have no games, than games thrown into the NISA censorship blender.

Now all we need is for Spike Chunsoft to drop them. I know they keep a tight leash on NISA, but it leaves a foul taste in my mouth knowing that I'm giving those fucknuggets money.
I suppose I could always learn moon and import but that would take a while.

In a previous CG thread I read an user saying that apparently Spikechun is gonna assume control for the next Danganronpa. If that is really the case, I expect NISA to only help with the LE manufacturing and shipping (which, gotta be honest, they do at least okay in that part - e.g. Atelier LEs)

That's fine. I don't mind NISA distributing, as long as they keep their filthy mitts out of the content. I wont trust that until we get a clear message that they haven't touched it, though.

Buy it used, you fucking idiot.

I don't think they get money if you buy the PC version of Danganronpa. They have no mention of NISA, and list Spike Chunsoft as the publisher.
store.steampowered.com/app/413410/
store.steampowered.com/app/413420/

They would. Whether or not Chunsoft is the online publisher, they are still using NISA's work. Thus, by law, NISA would receive money for that usage.

No. Its a new term that doesnt carry the poison affiliated with censorship. Better to use censorship. It triggers the twitterkins and censorers too. Drag their deeds into the light.

A nice thing is that Project Zetsubou's Super Duper Script Editor has been adapted for this version - so you can use PZ's script or make your own.

They could have just paid NISA to license the translation, meaning they don't get a cut of sales like they would if you buy the NISA published version.

Censorships happens, cuz you all fail to do something against it.

Once again, Holla Forums has failed. But hey, I guess you like censorship eh?

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We're not failing, this is just a battle of attrition. Isn't NISA's localization team losing business and contracts due to poor sales caused by people not buying their shitty bowdlerizations?

kek

Ugh. You garnergooblers should complain that you can't be a pedophile, this is 2016's United States of America, not 8th century Europe.
Just learn Japanese and move there if you like child bodies so much.

0/10
Way too obvious.

Pretty sure he was being ironic, not badly baiting.

>>>/reddit/

Nowadays you can't do that without le ebin ":^)"

even then the autists on this board think you're serious

understanding sarcasm, jokes and irony requires a certain amount of social understanding, autists take shit way too literally and keep falling for this shit

autism is everywhere on this board, it is this board's essence

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Are these games even good or are they fapbait like a bunch of other games?

That's being handled by sega and atlus.

Like i've said before, it's just softcore porn, really.

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man reading through all these threads makes me wish I could gas all NISAdrones

So whats worse? A nintoddler, a sonygger, a nisadrone, or a bethdrone? xbone fags need not apply

Personally, I'm going with NISAdrones since they enable NISA. I don't care about Nintendo, Sony or Bethesda games anymore, but NISA is free to publish whatever they want.

If they keep getting money, they'll go after the niche games I still enjoy or have interest in

The weeb uprising will be soon at hand, brother. Rivers of blood will flow through San Fransisco.

The purpose of that was making it more accesible.
Other options:
- Changing Shakespeare's text (an horrible option)
- Not reading Shakespeare to your kids

I'm pretty sure the core of this matter is if you can profit from sexualizing underage cartoons. I'm pretty sure the laws are different in Japan from our countries. All the other stuff is just a consequence of this.

TL;DR: Localization is a better term, because it's about the LOCAL laws been different from the source laws.

Localization isn't about laws, it's about changing certain things (jokes and puns and stuff) so that the experience is the same across all regions. It's should be a good thing when used right (like in Phoenix Wright for example), but most companies go too far these days and use it as an excuse to remove things some people would find offensive.

Localization should be restricted solely to things that truly wouldn't make sense in our culture, like idioms or obscure references.

If they use some weird idiom about a bucket of water in the sense that we'd say "sharpest tool in the shed," then translating it as "sharpest tool in the shed" isn't a big deal. Likewise if some famous Nip last stand is replaced with Battle of Thermopylae or Custer's Last Stand.

Anything further extremely risks bastardizing the original INTENT of the author (and is, as you said, often the case).

Exactly. Using Criminal Girls as an example, these girls are obviously intended to be punished, no where/who you are or how you look at it. Changing that to "motivation" is not how localization is supposed to work, that's just straight up bastardization/censorship.

I don't want to sound like a faggot but I really appreciate posts like this, I don't often get to say that I learned something that is both interesting and has practical use from Holla Forums, thank you for your contribution user.

I offer my favorite gif as thanks

Ok I've got an idea and I'm wondering if any localizer has tried it yet: what if you release both the censored version and the uncensored version as separate games, and anyone who is easily triggered by an AO rating will pick up the censored version while the fans play the uncensored version.

All you gotta do is pay the fee for ESRB ratings twice and you completely avoid angering fans and SJWs.

Would this be viable and if so why has it not been done?

That is a translation. A bad one.

That is also a translation. Another bad one.

There is not a single thing that "localization" covers that can not also be thought of as simple translation. Localization is a bullshit term popularized solely and simply to justify shit translations, or outright content change/censorship.

Because the ESRB isn't the problem here.

I like this word

Then what is the problem? This should please SJW fans, actual fans, ESRB, and the devs.

1. NISA doesn't want to release the uncensored version.

2. The games that are censored would not get an AO

3. AO games can't be sold

Why would they not want to if they would make more money from fans who dislike censorship?

Yeah that's what I meant, you would have one AO or M game and the censored one would have the reduced rating. That way people that want the game as it was meant to be can play the uncensored version while everyone else plays the censored one.

If you mean that physical stores won't stock it, sure, but from my googling I don't see anything about it being illegal to sell and I'm pretty sure noone will be buying physical versions of these kinds of games. Just put it on any of the Steam competitors that don't care about AO ratings.

Because NISA themselves are the main problem. They are the SJWs in this case.

The uncensored game would not get an AO.

Console manufacturers will not allow AO games on their systems. Games don't need a rating to be sold on PC, but NISA already came up with another excuse to not sell the uncensored version on Steam because they do not want to.

I'm not sure how much clearer I can be that your solution is pointless, because you are assuming that this is not NISA's choice.

Oh, I hadn't really considered that but it makes sense

I'm studying Japanese and business/communication in college, I want to get into localization and do my best to help unfuck this whole mess when I graduate

I think you're confused, user. I literally typed "translating" right there, in the part you quoted.

All I'm saying is that for dubs, where "translator's notes" usually aren't included, idioms and similar obscure references are acceptable to not translate directly, so long as the meaning is conveyed. That's not "shit translation", that's "translating in a way that a non-Nip can understand."

How the fuck would you translate
(hiding your claws; pretending to be nice, like "wolf in sheep's clothing") or
(false advertising, like "crying wine and selling vinegar")

Shitty fucking retort, Redditors buy half-baked shit constantly. The "mods will fix it" mentality is for cucked consumers.

It's been done a few times, and I'm really not sure why it's not done more often. I know JAST has done it with some of their visual novels. I can't remember the name of the game, but a couple weeks ago there was an outcry because this lewd card battle game was going to have censored artwork. The outcry made the company rethink it and announce that they would have an option to switch to the uncensored art in the options.

Because I don't think it's about money. The assumption is that they just don't like the material in the games. It's like how Nintendo's been removing swimsuits from T and M rated games, even though a swimsuit isn't going to affect the rating of a game. It's about all about not wanting to be seen as a company that puts out lewd games.

頑張って

That was Eternal Destiny.

I am so fucking done with Rednal, this many years and he's still as much as a smug, giant NISA-cocksucker as he's always been. Fuck him and fuck these forums.

Unfortunately in the case of Criminal Girls, there's no saving it, since the games are developed by NIS. Any Criminal Girls game is either going to be butchered, or not brought over at all if it doesn't make money. NISA will never get any better on this. Games like Grand Kingdom will make it over fine because there's nothing to censor, but when you have a guy upstairs going on about "power and consent in regards to fictional characters", everything needs to be burned down.

Actually, is there an english patch for criminal girls on psp? I had no interest in it at all really, but now i want to play it to see.

No, I'm not. You were using localization as a synonym for translation there.

And there's the proof.

What I'm saying is that that is wrong. As you seem to agree, there is nothing wrong with translating idioms such as you have posited. But they are just that; translations. There is no need for some new horseshit term like "localization."

I did jump the gun in calling them 'shit' though. It's late and I was doing a drive-by post.

I'm against this. It's one things to change obtuse idioms, but replacing their historical reference with another one is too far for me. If things were done this way, how many times would the battle of Sekigahara be replaced by other things?

Not to mention kids don't know shit these days and anyone who would know Custer isn't a cold treat would likely either shrug off not knowing something or enjoy learning something .

The one thing most businesses would rather die than do.

It also makes no sense to pay the ESRB explicitly to give you a second rating for an AO version, because the retail climate is such that you can't sell it virtually anywhere. No return on the investment.

But that's not really the problem, the problem is that localizers want to do one version and sell it in the entire western world, so everyone gets the most watered down, lowest-common-denominator game possible to avoid hurting anyone's fee-fees. Each butchered game released reinforces the decision to hack apart the next in a self-perpetuating race to the bottom in the name of the mythical broader audience and profit.

Anyone who argues against this in your typical public forums is painted as a gross sexist pedophile, shutting down the debate before it even begins.

The west is completely artistically fucked. It's time to learn moon.

My apologies, I didn't get what you were arguing. I usually use "localize" in quotes like that in a kind of sarcastic way, not seriously. You're right, there.

Eh, you're probably right. That's something that would be much better fixed with an actual translator's note that said "(famous last stand)".

I believe Nekopara and Hunie Pop both have censored Steam versions and uncensored versions if you buy directly from their own websites. Works well for digital releases, but I don't think companies want to print two versions of the physical release, especially when retailers are obviously going to favor one over the other. Maybe have a downloadable uncensor patch? But at that point, that's just a parental lock in the settings, which games have had for ages.
Man, just bring back parental locks. They worked fine.

Anything that MangaGamer censor for Steam can be bought uncensored on their website, and the HuniePop devs were able to link to the "uncensor" patch within Steam without issue.

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Enjoy your autistic children.

That image never ceases to get a chuckle from how retarded it is, on a video game board no less.

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I was assuming digital distribution for these games do people outside of japan really go to a store and buy stuff like this in public?

at this point it's just sane people arguing with rednal. I mean he simultaneously defends nisa on multiple forums - WHAT IS HE?

Yes. Akihabara is popular for a reason.

Spike chunsoft did do a worrying thing a little bit ago and then backpeddaled a bit. They retweeted and article to support Kotaku's idea of how games need to be localized but then ended up saying don't worry, they dont support censorship. They made a dig at FE too censoring headpetting.

He is legion, for Rednal is many.

well, time to import and learn moonrunes!

SJWs ever being pleased. Good joke, user.

I preordered the limited edition. Please forgive me.

Why would you do that user?

Had a simliar stupid ideal last night. Here's the roadblocks.

They're not going to. This is PR suicide for them, from the angle of the SJW types that are going to come after them with a vengeance.

Feasible save two things
- If the idea comes from NISA, it's PR suicide again
- If this comes from the public, NISA will block it on grounds that they are the rights holders therefore it's infringing their right to publish and prepare for distribution.

They won't do it. Very likely, NIS has no idea how badly NISA's reputation has gotten. Regardless, NIS won't interfere with them on the public's behalf. Mostly because it's disrespectful as fuck to do so based of a small amount of voices raising a non-structured protest.

And yes, small amount. Most of the people viewing this thread (110 people) and any on reddit and any in various forums would have to raise a stink, set a goal, obtain a representative that gets the RESPECTFUL idea of what we want across…it's not going to happen. Not without some good planning, a few connections, and some serious dedication to cleaning up NISA's act, and using NISA's case as a standpoint to kick off a strong incentive for uncensored media.

And that in itself is a massive undertaking. NISA would be a stepping stone compared to the ugly monsters you'd have to take on after that fact. It's questionable how much stamina and capital you'd need to not get drowned in sheer bullshit litigation.

Even more difficult to do. You'd have to first get paperwork that displays NISA's sales, and then be able to dissect that info based on various consumer demographics. You'd have to have a control company report to compare those numbers to. And then a third and/or fourth company who regularly releases uncensored content or has altered their policies on editing and altering, and judge where the sales have taken them.

Nevermind the work and capital involved, it's flat-out illegal in the US last I glanced. Companies here are allowed to hide their earnings and individual sales numbers.

As an aside, it's laughable to think that NISA or any company products sold poorly, because ANY data displaying such is sheer speculation aside of some very expensive consumer report surveys that are not public, and Steamspy. The only other visible cue we have is if media reports on a host of firings and cutbacks. This is how we know that Bioware is in trouble, as well as Gearbox/2k.

I hate this shit, but that's the reality of where this stands. Without people willing to do the footwork, NISA will continue getting away with this.

tl;dr the only feasible way this works is if you get a public formal petition (REAL one not that change.org bullshit) together of 2,000 names or better, and each of those persons donates $1.00 toward seeing the ESRB furnish a second rating review on the UNCUT product involved. And someone in law capacity has to present the idea to the ESRB and NISA.

NISAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I AM SO ELATED THEY WILL NEVER TOUCH BLACK ROSE VALKYRIE
GOOD! It's probably one of the few CH games that will sell because of the interesting premise and Tales Of artist.

And not a DIME will be anywhere near their pockets.

.>>9576608
Doesn't Neptunia sell like crazy?

I don't know about crazy, it sells well enough though I think

So guys, are you grinding them kanji?

Not like that, it would takes decades to learn that way. Also I don't recommend ever using romaji, you should be writing out the readings in kana.

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learn your katakana and hiragana before you go onto the kanji

It's like you don't want to learn.

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Done

Hhaha cucks

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Hi Rednal.