It speaks volumes to how shit every other couple in The Legend of Korra is that...

Andrew Cox
Andrew Cox

It speaks volumes to how shit every other couple in The Legend of Korra is that despite all the crap the show's writing put them through, Mako and Asami still feel like the most genuinely healthy relationship in this entire garbagefest.

Also, unappreciated pairings thread.

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Joshua Cook
Joshua Cook

Anything from Korra
Healthy relationship

Could be an exaggeration on my part but uh..don't see any of it as healthy..except maybe Tenzin and his wife.

Also, pairings, when it's done right, it's golden. When it's done to pander to shippers….well, not even Shakespeare can salvage that.

Adam Martin
Adam Martin

Read again. Even though Mako/Asami are far from healthy in how they're portrayed, it just that every other couple is written so shittily that they come off looking much better by comparison. I could at least buy that Mako and Asami genuinely loved each other. Or at least, Asami loved Mako.

Robert James
Robert James

don't see any of it as healthy
They were 2 people that liked each other as they get to know each other. That's healthy. The only reason the relationship went to hell was because Korra is a jealous piece of shit. Sure, Korra liked Mako, but that doesn't justify her actions, and since then it's a power struggle. Take Korra off the equation and Mako and Asami are a 10/10 couple.
Tenzin and his wife
Reminder that Tenzin's wife blatantly stole him from Lin, and she is the one who gives those terrible advises to Korra about how to steal someone else's man.

Christopher Brown
Christopher Brown

I said "maybe"…I could be wrong. Been mentally blocking out memories of LoK.

Robert Smith
Robert Smith

I agree, the whole thing changing felt super-forced. It would have been more interesting anyway if throughout the whole story, Korra would be the third wheel and that keeps bugging her. Like a weakness for her, but at the end she gets over it.

all that overdone, over the top Korra hate
Man I'm so sick of that circlejerk. It's the "one guy said its shit, everyone says its shit now" situation like with Jurassic Park 2 or Star Wars Episode 6.

Oliver Wilson
Oliver Wilson

debating the quality of Korra

Alexander Williams
Alexander Williams

It's the "one guy said its shit, everyone says its shit now" situation like with Jurassic Park 2 or Star Wars Episode 6.

Or maybe, just maybe, we all have legitimate grievances with its shallow pandering, boring villains post-Amon (who himself got ruined by the bloodbending plot twist), shitting on pre-established lore (like the aforementioned bloodbending thing or the bullshit with Wan) and so forth. Also,

Liking nu-Star Wars

Kayden Smith
Kayden Smith

Ain't episode 6 Return of the Jedi?

Dominic Carter
Dominic Carter

Also, unappreciated pairings thread.

Ian Phillips
Ian Phillips

Yes. Yes it is. People suddenly shit all over it.

Carson Ward
Carson Ward

Is it because of the ewoks? Because I thought they got unfairly shit on.

Jordan Taylor
Jordan Taylor

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I mean, damn Ozai was better executed than every main villain in LoK.

boring villains post-Amon (who himself got ruined by the bloodbending plot twist)

It wouldn't have been so bad if they just made him a spiritbender. I still wonder what was the point of suddenly making bloodbending operate like spiritbending.

Of course, Amon had the problem other LoK villains had in that Bryke was convinced he couldn't be a serious threat to Korra without him having gimmick bending (spiritbending through bloodbending). Unalaq had his dark bending, Zaheer had his secret airbending, Kuvira had her giant robot powered with earthbending.

the bullshit with Wan

Having Abrahamic spirits (Raava is God, Vaatu is Satan) in a Far Eastern setting that's also bastardizing Yin-Yang is garbage.

Zachary Cooper
Zachary Cooper

Not even a shipper but it infuriated me that starting when they were looking for Korra after she was kidnapped Mako suddenly decided that he liked the avatar more than anybody else and completely ignored his then girlfriend in favor, and how Korra ended up with him at the end of season 1 alongside getting all her bending back because for the whole 1st season Korra proved to be an absolute spoiled brat and having her learn she can't always gets what she wants is somehow a lesson Bryke never realized she absolute should have learned.

Jeremiah Lee
Jeremiah Lee

Considering that Ozai's motive is damn simple..take over the world. But how is he presented is what made Ozai a good villain. Throughout the series, we didn't even see his face, just silhouettes and how imposing he even in silhouettes.

Ryder Garcia
Ryder Garcia

Romance is best when it's actually a part of the story and is the reason for why characters evolve and change.
Like Katara and Aang in the original series, the problem with Korra is that none of it was planned out after Book One. That's the main reason why it's so messy and disorganized, why characters have nothing to do every book that goes on.
tfw people still legitimately think that Korra's writing is good and that Korrasami was the best romance on tv.

Aaron Jones
Aaron Jones

Korra is that none of it was planned out after Book One
But book one is still abysmal. You make it sound like Book one is the only good one but even book 3 and 4 still manage to slightly edge it out in being not as horrible.

Jackson Butler
Jackson Butler

But book one is still abysmal. You make it sound like Book one is the only good one but even book 3 and 4 still manage to slightly edge it out in being not as horrible.
Now what I was implying, all of it is fucking awful and when people say it improved, what they mean is it appealed to them more with fan service.

Landon Morgan
Landon Morgan

Like Katara and Aang in the original series
implying Zuko wouldn't fuck Katara if the series was more believable

Brayden Wood
Brayden Wood

How is Zuko and Katara more believeable when Aang and Katara had been built up for the whole series and Zuko manages to land a goth gf?

Nathaniel Mitchell
Nathaniel Mitchell

implying young girl wouldn't go with dark mysterious Chad over bald goofball
pretending Mai isn't a cunt (especially in the comics)

Grayson Hill
Grayson Hill

comics
cannon

Bentley Martin
Bentley Martin

…Urgh, the comics. I'd take the fan theory that Ozai had his wife assassinated over "I'm leaving my son with a deranged power mad husband so I can go gallivant with some common dude."

Brayden Howard
Brayden Howard

What? Too real?

Angel Moore
Angel Moore

Not real at all considering how much she was shown to love her children.

Brayden Cruz
Brayden Cruz

It was also not shown that Ozai abused Ursa. Zuko, yeah. But not Ursa. It was even suggested he missed her.

Nicholas King
Nicholas King

This and Bolin/Korra really felt like the only legitimately good couples in the whole series. Speaking of Bolin, I'm kind of pissed they dropped the whole "playboy" angle the first two episodes were hinting at and instead made him a generic comic relief guy (and not a particularly funny one either - geeze, what a waste of PJ Byrne). It's like anytime the show has a chance to add more depth to its characters, they fuck up. Even Asami never really went beyond the "nice, friendly pretty girl" stereotype.

I think they just wanted to make Amon's remove bending gimmick to be more of a mystery because everyone and their mother had called him having energybending from the start but what we got was absolutely fucking retarded.

I really liked Amon being a nonbender because the idea that Korra was insanely OP compared to him yet Amon could still kick her ass in a 1-on-1 physical confrontation because he was just that good was insanely cool. Usually, brawn-oriented villains are more powerful than the hero to make them a more imposing physical threat, so flipping the script with Amon and Korra and yet still retaining his danger factor was pretty intriguing.

Elijah Nelson
Elijah Nelson

Reminder that Tenzin's wife blatantly stole him from Lin, and she is the one who gives those terrible advises to Korra about how to steal someone else's man.
Remember when she and everyone else gaslighted Asami when she was just upset at her boyfriend cheating on her?
The way they handled that whole fucking thing still blows my mind. And then they tried to make Asami and Korra best buds (and lesbos after that), and tried to laugh at how much of an ass Mako was. As if Korra hadn't been the key part of actively fucking up their relationship multiple times, and as if the rest of the characters hadn't treated Asami like she was crazy for being upset about Mako not being faithful.

Henry Kelly
Henry Kelly

Even if it was obvious, Amon being an energybender leaves a mystery how a man like him could have learned a lost art like that. From the standpoint of having the series last beyond Republic City, spiritbending is better.

We didn't even need Vaatu and Unalaq if we were going to put more focus on spirits. You could have just had Amon get his spiritbending from Koh acting out a plot to ruin what Aang built.

Remember that Asami was planned to be a villain but Bryke adored her design so she stuck with Korra's posse.

Nathan Morgan
Nathan Morgan

Why is it that in post-TLA Avatar media, many of the characters who are supposed to be sympathetic are abusive, neglectful or absent in their domestic relationships?

Is this just something I noticed, or have you guys noticed it too?

Jack White
Jack White

The funniest thing is that Asami's jealousy rants are ONLY directed at Mako. She never so much as says a word to Korra which is ridiculous. If anything Korra should've been receiving the brunt of it considering she outed Asami's father as an Equalist only a few days prior effectively tearing apart her family, Asami already knew Korra liked Mako because of Ikki and Korra was basically making fun of Asami for being a girly-girl right up until she learned that Asami was a wrench wench even though Asami was trying to be friends with her.

Jayden Ortiz
Jayden Ortiz

The most obvious and upsetting example of this is Zuko's mom. In the series, it's established she's a kind, loving mother. In the comics, it's established early on that she's in an abusive, controlling relationship - so initially, she's pretty sympathetic. Even though she left her family behind, it's understandable given the circumstances.

Things get iffy when we learn she's been having an affair. That's generally not a very good thing to do but again, given the circumstances it's fairly understandable. The problem is, now we've had to use that excuse twice. So already things are starting to get shakey.

THEN, on top of that, we learn she wasn't simply hiding from her tyrant husband, she changed her identity and started a whole new fucking family. That leaves a bad taste in our mouths. She's not laying low to escape an abusive situation anymore, she's actually abandoned her children and just had new ones.

And the icing on the cake? She doesn't even remember her children anymore. Her mind was wiped completely, IIRC it was all willingly, too. Maybe this was done as an attempt to justify her abandonment? It just makes it come off as even colder.

This is easily the worst example of a character we're supposed to sympathize with doing something absolutely awful in a domestic situation and not getting called out on it or judged by anyone for it, but there are others. Korra's cheating, Toph's bad parenting, it seems like Bryke have this idea that they can take bad or toxic relationships and make them seem okay? Like maybe they think this shit is okay? I dunno, it's a lot of the same problems the Twilight books had.

Jordan James
Jordan James

I think this is mainly Bryke being shit writers. They were never good, not even in ATLA. They were idea guys who had to have real writers slap them around and structure their ideas properly. I imagine if it wasn't for ATLA being written mainly by other people, it'd be similar.

Like… Imagine if they wrote Azula without any outside help. I imagine that they'd probably butcher her like they did Ursa. Attempt to make her sympathetic, but ultimately seem as if they're dismissing what she did.

That's what pisses me off about Kuvira. Kuvira is an incredibly sympathetic character. She was an orphan who was taken in by a woman who never fully accepted her as her daughter. All she ever wanted was to be fully accepted as a member of the family. All she wanted was to be Su's child. While Su was so loving and accepting and would talk nonstop about the rest of her children, Kuvira was mostly a child servant than anything else. So in an effort to prove herself, she runs off with one of Su's children and takes over the Earth Kingdom to restore peace to it and bring it in to the new age, something Su refused to do in her isolationist bullshit.

What does Kuvira have to show for it? Su accepts her son back as if he did not actively engage in the plans Kuvira made up, Kuvira gets some half-assed episode about her being "just like Korra!!!" and then she gets completely disowned by Su and told to never come near her family again.

Su's bullshit was never acknowledged. The thought process and emotional turmoil Kuvira was going through was only vaguely hinted at and then trampled over.

Landon Moore
Landon Moore

Why is it that in post-TLA Avatar media, many of the characters who are supposed to be sympathetic are abusive, neglectful or absent in their domestic relationships?

As far as the Gaang and other adult characters go, it's down to Bryke having daddy issues apparently. Really. There's an interview with that.

Jonathan Cox
Jonathan Cox

Like… Imagine if they wrote Azula without any outside help. I imagine that they'd probably butcher her like they did Ursa. Attempt to make her sympathetic, but ultimately seem as if they're dismissing what she did.
You know, I was disappointed in how they handled Azula in The Search but reading that makes me somewhat glad they didn't try to redeem her. I'm still angry that it was her last appearance, though.

Noah Carter
Noah Carter

Daddy Issues
Is this that common amongst writers these days? I always suspected Tim Burton had daddy issues given that it's a common theme in his films.

Brandon Jenkins
Brandon Jenkins

I thought her last appearance was in season 2 of Korra where she helped Korra find her previous lives.

Bentley Russell
Bentley Russell

I think that was just some random Fire Sage woman even though a lot of people speculated that it was Azula.

unappreciated pairings

Dr. Mid-Nite and Black Canary. Infinitely superior to Green Arrow and Black Canary and more fun but for some reason DC has a hard-on for shackling Dinah to Oliver, even though it always ends up reflecting badly on her character, so they had her run back to Green Arrow as soon as he came back from the dead, dropping poor Pieter like a sack of cement.

Justin Flores
Justin Flores

Only thing worthwhile in Korra is the character design..

John Bell
John Bell

Dr. Midnite and Black Canary
What other pairings did she have? This intrigues me.

Hunter James
Hunter James

Didn't know there's a Mid-Nite other than McNider. Well, at least it's not as creepy as Johnny Sorrow and Star Girl.

Camden Sanders
Camden Sanders

I always though Azula secretly wanted Zuko to man up and "rape" her, if it wasn't a kids show I think there would have been a lot more sexual tension. On that note, Mia was fucking awful, there was no chemistry and I honestly agree with the autistic fangirl Zutara shippers that the show was originally written to have Zuko and Katara hook up only for it to be rewritten later.

All in all the whole show would have been much more interesting if they could have gone to a darker place with it

Jordan Lewis
Jordan Lewis

Well, she also has a bunch of sexual tension with Batman and once nearly married Ra's al Ghul. Also, I think she had a policeman boyfriend at one point but I might be confusing her with her mother.

I mostly remember Dr. Mid-Nite for being one of Black Canary's better boyfriends if not for, as mentioned earlier, DC's insistence on keeping her tied to GA.

Brandon Sanchez
Brandon Sanchez

Mia
I think you meant Mai. There was foreshadowing of their relationship in Tales of Ba Sing Se, which is around the time Mei also appears as a character on the show. As for Zuko and Azula, I agree, and it's not because I love incest, but she tormented Zuko in a way that tried to push him to the edge, towards her. She wanted love and recognition from her family, including her mom and Zuko, not only Ozai, that's pretty much all she fucking wanted, so wanting to get into Zuko's pants isn't that far off.
the whole show would have been much more interesting if they could have gone to a darker place with it
I disagree. The show was heartwarming exactly because it was a kid's show and it reinforced the idea of the Avatar being a peace maker and balance ringer rather than some edgy faggot with a lot of powers Like Korra. Aang struggling to do the least severe thing while still doing the right thing instead of just killing people and having sex was alright. I don't want another "Power Rangers reboot" shit.

Josiah Adams
Josiah Adams

Azula secretly wanted Zuko to man up and "rape" her.
How so? I just saw it as manipulating him.

Xavier Ramirez
Xavier Ramirez

Even after they secured Zuko in the fire nation Azula was all over him. If something, Azula has a brother complex.

Justin Hernandez
Justin Hernandez

I find it amusing that a fucking fapfic has a better representation of an abusive relationship. pastebin.com/AvW35U8u

The difference being that nothing is sugar-coated. Korra has a fucked up personality and the guy is extremely fucked up and even knows it but is unwilling to alter his behaviors more than the absolute minimum necessary to fit in. I also like that the Patrick Bateman-esque character's sociopathy is shown to be a moderated thing. Even the kindness and love he does display is portrayed as calculated even if it is genuine, and as a result doesn't elicit sympathy for him. Nor does he blame his situation or his attitudes on anybody but himself, as you'd expect of an egotist and self-made man. Also I like the idea of and H-game rapey protagonist being portrayed as an actual character.

The real issue is that it isn't messy in a natural way, wherein to largely compatible people still have personality traits that don't mesh and they get over it or don't. It was just the emotional equivalent of slot A must find tab B, and if slot A can't find and tab it just gets mashed against slot C. There was nothing in the characters that made the compatible and therefore a reason for them to have a relationship.

At least we have the porn I suppose.

Liam Bailey
Liam Bailey

abusive fapfic
I remember seeing this one porn where Mako rapes Korra in her sleep and Korra wakes up and gives him shit for it. Only for the author to later cop out and reveal the whole thing was a dream as well.

Isaac Murphy
Isaac Murphy

Zuko paced around the palace courtyard, nervous and agitated as Suki watched while eating a fruit tart.

Suki: Oh come on Zuko, if she was going to do something she would have done it by now.

Zuko: That's exactly what worries me. It's been almost a month since we found mother and Azula ran off. I had thought that our journey together would help her but it only made things worse, now she's out there alone and out of her mind… Well, more so than usual.

Suki: I get she's a threat but worrying help, I sent a squad of Kyoshi with a messenger hawk to look for her. When they find her you will be the first to know. Now, go get your butt to bed Firelord, your dutiful subjects need you at your best.

Suki takes a mocking bow and directs her hands in the direction of the bed chambers. Zuko lets out a light chuckle.

Zuko: very well my dutiful subject.

Suki: Stop giving me lip and get your cute but over there before I have the girls tie you down to the bed.

With a smile Zuko began to make his way back to his bedchamber, stopping along side Suki just for a moment.

Zuko: Thank you for the company, it has been a comfort to me of late.

Suki: Goodnight handsome, and don't worry I'm sure both your girls will be back soon.

Zuko simply nodded and kept walking. The Fall sun had set and the air was beginning to cool, a feint breeze could be felt and just as Zuko was about to lose himself in his own thoughts he recognized a perfume of fire and cherries. Quickly moving to follow the smell he found himself in front of his own bedchamber. He entered his room, his hands bearing flames ready for battle, but not a single adversary was to be found. Walking over to an open widow he began to search the dim lit room.

Zuko: Hmm, I don't remember leaving you open.

Suddenly he felt something move behind him and launched a bolt of fire at it, only to hit a worn out robe.

Azula: Not bad Zuzu, but perhaps you should take on a fighter who's not already full of holes.

Zuko visibly relaxed and stood tall as he answered.

Zuko: How did you get past the guards.

Azula: Zuko please, this is my home and I can come and go as I please.

Zuko: I meant the Kyoshi.

Azula: Oh, look at you. Seems someone has grown a spine of late or is it just a stick up your ass keeping you so stiff?

She walked over to the mirror clad in one of Zuko's robes from his time as a prince while holding a child’s robe to her chest as if measuring how it would look on her.

Azula: You know I haven't seen Mai around in quite some time, where is she hiding Zuzu.

Zuko simply stared at her with fierce determination without saying a word. Azula gauged his response and just smiled

Azula: Oh fine, if you must know your precious girl toys are unconscious in the dinning room, but don't worry they're fine.

Zuko: I didn't hear a brawl, how did you poison them.

Azula undid her hair bindings as she spoke

Azula: Ha, nothing so crude. I merely had some of the better looking guards bring them some rice wine. Their own temptations got them, I didn't even lift a finger against them.

Azula began undoing her sash and Zuko turned around out of modesty.

Zuko: is there a reason you have barged in to my room in the goal middle of the night and are rummaging through my things?

Azula: Turning your back on your enemy, you're getting sloppy Zuzu.

Zuko: You have had plenty of chances to kill me by now, besides if you were here for a fight you would never be so subtle about it.

Azula: oh my, Zuzu you started thinking, isn't that cute. To be honest, I was feeling a little nostalgic after my time away from home and decided to reminisce a bit.

The sound of silk garments hitting the floor were the only indication that Azula continued changing as Zuko stood with his back turned to her.

Noah Johnson
Noah Johnson

Azula: planning on how you're going to stick me back in the asylum?

Zuko: no, I was hoping that after our trip you could come home and while I am glad to see you have regained sense of your former self I need you to tell me what it is you are doing here.

Azula: Zuko, have I ever pleaded to you for help?

Zuko: just once, when you were six. You were scared of lightning and crawled into my bed, asked me to protect you. The next day you pretended like it never happened and we never spoke of it. answer question my question.

Azula: I need your help Zuzu.

Zuko swung around to face her, his face contorted with confusion and surprise. The brief moment that state lasted was quickly replaced by embarrassment. Azula stood clad in a small bed robe that barely made it to her thighs, long red stockings covered her legs and were held in place by golden rings on her feet, a matching set of arm sleeves were held in place by matching rings on her hands.

Zuko: By the Agni! What are you doing!

A smug look graced Azula's as she stared down her brother.

Azula: what's it look like. I am preparing for bed.

Zuko remembering how she loved the toy with him and immediately regained his composure.

Zuko: then I shall have the servants prepare your quarters.

Azula: don't bother, they are all either drunk or asleep and I do so hate causing a stir in the middle of the night.

It was a blatantly obvious lie coming from Azula but Zuko could think of nothing to say to counter her argument without exposing his unease.

Azula: Come on, get undressed and come to bed. It's going to be cold tonight and unless you plan on sleeping on the floor you should get changed as well.

Zuko stood dumbstruck as Azula crawled into his bed and began staring at him to spur him on. He looked up at the ceiling and muttered:

Zuko: I've come this far, might as well see where this goes.

Zuko began to undress and as he removed the top Half of his shirt Azula's eyes caught on the arcing scar on his chest that she herself had inflicted. Zuko's eyes caught hers but both said nothing. Zuko continued stripping down to his underwear without so much as looking at Azula. When he was done he awkwardly walked up to his bed and got in on the opposite side of Azula. A pregnant pause hung in the air as the two both stared at the ceiling without saying a word. Azula was the first to break the silence.

Azula: I have been thinking about mother a lot. The first two weeks after I ran away from that hut I spent in the woods, hearing her voice as it was chasing me. I decided that I would have to face her to be rid of this.

Zuko visibly tensed as his sister mentioned their mother but continued on in silence.

Azula: I went back but when I got there I saw mother with her face restored, playing with Kiyi, and I couldn't even move.

Azula started trembling as she spoke and warm tears streamed down her face. Zuko was left dumbfounded as he had never seen her in such a state.

Azula: mother was so happy, a new daughter, a new husband, a new life. She had cast me aside just like father did.

Zuko: That's not true and you know it, mother always loved you! Even after she had lost her memory she still regretted not being able to show that to you. We can go back to see her together and you can hear it as many times as you like from her.

Azula: I can't, not until I can do it myself.

Tears poured down her face and for the first time in memory Zuko drew her close and wrapped his arms around her.

Azula: even after everything I've done to you, you never gave up on me. Mother, father, Ty-lee, Mai, everyone but you.

Azula stifled her sob and pulled herselfs away fro Zukos's chest and looked him in the eyes.

Azula: After that night you protected from lightning I promised myself I would never let fear control me like that again. I made lightning mine, now it only gives me what I want. I finally understand what I need to do! The fear of not having the happiness I wanted with mother is controlling me so I need to make it mine. But I can't do it by myself, I need your help Zuko.

Here voice was pleading and hoarse, eyes red from tears, and hands trembling but she kept looking in to Zuko's golden eyes.

Zuko: Azula, we're family no matter what, we-

Azula cut him off by putting a finger on his mouth and Zuko stopped taking for a moment.

Azula: Not, yet. We aren’t a family yet.

Zuko: what do you mean.

Azula's right leg began to wind around Zuko's waist until she is straddling him, her undersized robe began to come loose to reveal thin wrappings just barely covering her shapely breasts and smooth bottom. Blood rushed through Zuko's body as a Azula pressed her bare skin against his, her breasts pushing down on his chest and her arms gently weaving themselves into the hair on the back of his head. She drew close to his face and whispered

Azula: I need your help Zuzu, help me become a mother.

to be continued

Carson Torres
Carson Torres

I wrote this a while back for an Avatar, it was meant to take place after "The search", I felt it was appropriate so I decide to post it

Justin Moore
Justin Moore

Korrasami felt forced, and came out of nowhere. I'd bet you that they probably decided it last minute to make their series end with a bang.

Dominic Scott
Dominic Scott

If they wanted that then they would have ended the series with Korra and Asami banging.

Henry Baker
Henry Baker

Mai was a bad pick for Zuko regardless, mostly because of her general absense

Jason Smith
Jason Smith

Nah, Bryke were too pussy for that shit. They tried to blame it on Nickelodeon being prudes, despite Nick showing gay stuff in their cartoons before and even the fucking animators were confused by the Korrasami shit because it wasn't what they originally made. I recall the voice actresses for Korra and Asami were called back too to re-record the ending.

Bryke knew that they were going to get royally assraped by the fandom for the shitfest that was Book 4, so they threw in the dyke shit at the last second to pander to the tumblrina contingent and they tried to pretend like they meant to do it all along.

Ian Taylor
Ian Taylor

Hey /tv/

Connor Allen
Connor Allen

I think Azula is lesbo for Ty Lee but doesn't know it…

Ethan Edwards
Ethan Edwards

Honestly, I think Azula would do anyone though it's more that she wants to hold power over the target.

Liam Diaz
Liam Diaz

The only reason the relationship went to hell was because it was built on nothing to begin with and Mako decided to go for Korra and leave Asami. Sure, Korra liked Mako and Mako told Bolin that he likes Korra, but that doesn't justify either of their actions. Take Mako off the equation and the love triangle never occurs and the writing improves since the brothers didn't have a purpose in the overall story.
Fixed that for you.

Chase Gonzalez
Chase Gonzalez

I'm sure that Mai was at first written as a creepy henchwoman who just happened to hunt after Zuko's penis. What with how she was eating a snack in front of plague victims and didn't give a damn about her little brother's life. They retooled her character to be less slimy when she was set to go with Zuko. Especially considering the comics where she's suddenly a protective big sister.

Not like LoK is relevant anymore outside of tumblr.

Jason Adams
Jason Adams

The only reason the relationship went to hell was because it was built on nothing to begin with

They were attracted to each other, Mako wasn't as much of a brooding jerkass around Asami and they had a fun dynamic. Just because you hate it, doesn't mean it was shallow.

and Mako decided to go for Korra and leave Asami.

Because Korra was a jealous piece of shit who pestered Mako to kingdom come and took the worst fucking advice ever to steal him from another girl who she hated. And because the writing made Mako do a sudden 180 when previously he was shown barely giving a shit about Korra.

Take Mako off the equation and the love triangle never occurs and the writing improves since the brothers didn't have a purpose in the overall story.

Except being her sidekicks, introducing her to pro-bending which helped her practice airbending movements for some reason and being critical to the fucking ending of the season. I mean shit, with that logic, Tenzin, Lin, Katara, Pema, Asami and the airbender kids were completely superfluous to the story and should have been cut out.

And the writing would still have sucked major ass, just for different reasons.

Dominic Reed
Dominic Reed

Mai was at first written as a creepy henchwoman

That was my intention too, especially with Mai's predatory smile in the first episode she appears and Azula mentions Zuko and the fact that Zuko seems kind of weirded out by Mai early on.

Connor Smith
Connor Smith

*suspicion

Tyler Davis
Tyler Davis

Agree

Brandon Barnes
Brandon Barnes

Because Korra was a jealous piece of shit who pestered Mako to kingdom come
He could have declined her offer to stay on Tenzin's private island. He could have went back to living on the streets if he didn't decide to continue the game when that other waterbender on their team quit. He tells Bolin that she's great but it makes more sense to go for Asami.
And because the writing
which helped her practice airbending movements for some reason
We can agree the writing is shit, yes. And it is even shittier because they decided to focus on romance. Mako and Asami was shallow and wasn't a fun dynamic. Asami says she feels safe with him but from what? Mako liking her because she's pretty, that's shallow.

being her sidekicks
That's all they were. Their own stories don't mesh like how Sokka, Katara, Zuko, and Toph's stories come together with Aang's journey. Mako just needed money and nothing was stopping him from just being a police officer. Introducing Korra to probending just wasted time since the other three elements also deal with dodging, not just airbending. It was ridiculous to introduce the brothers with probending when it only ended up showing that Korra should come at a problem from a different angle when the whole season should have encompassed this idea when dealing with Amon. And since Korra just does what she was doing at the beginning of the season, that journey is worthless and probending/the brothers are too.

Katara was superfluous to the story since she didn't act like Katara and didn't do anything on screen. Tenzin and his family is wasted opportunity and fluff in different measure. Tenzin did have a purpose in the story, and so did Lin and Asami. But their potential is squandered by the shit writing. The brothers didn't have potential since they only needed a job. Nothing was impeding them from getting a job and their only goal was to get out of poverty. In the larger story they have nothing going for them that necessitates them being main characters and sticking with everything like Katara and Sokka did for Aang's first season.

Liam Butler
Liam Butler

He could have declined her offer to stay on Tenzin's private island.

Yeah, sure, he could've just went to live on the streets like a homeless beggar. Mind you, Korra invited EVERYONE including Bolin and Asami, to stay on Air Temple Island and Mako and Bolin were now officially on the Equalists' "biggest shitlords" list after helping Korra.

He could have went back to living on the streets if he didn't decide to continue the game when that other waterbender on their team quit.

And went back to living on the streets again with his brother? How the fuck does this have anything to do with the topic at hand? He let Korra join the team after a lot of badgering from Bolin because they had no one else willing to join up, not because he liked her.

He tells Bolin that she's great but it makes more sense to go for Asami.

Yeah. Because like I said, the writing made Mako do a sudden 180 from not giving a shit about Korra to her suddenly being almost his whole world.

We can agree the writing is shit, yes. And it is even shittier because they decided to focus on romance. Mako and Asami was shallow and wasn't a fun dynamic. Asami says she feels safe with him but from what? Mako liking her because she's pretty, that's shallow.

Asami feels comfortable with him. Which, considering that her mother was killed by a firebender, is pretty huge. And you could say the same thing about Aang and Katara or Sokka and Yue or Bolin and Korra. Starting from physical attraction is kind of how a lot of romance works.

That's all they were. Their own stories don't mesh like how Sokka, Katara, Zuko, and Toph's stories come together with Aang's journey. Mako just needed money and nothing was stopping him from just being a police officer. Introducing Korra to probending just wasted time since the other three elements also deal with dodging, not just airbending. It was ridiculous to introduce the brothers with probending when it only ended up showing that Korra should come at a problem from a different angle when the whole season should have encompassed this idea when dealing with Amon. And since Korra just does what she was doing at the beginning of the season, that journey is worthless and probending/the brothers are too.

That goes for fucking everyone in The Legend of Korra and even some characters like TLA, like Suki. If we're measuring characters by how they directly contribute to Korra's story, then everyone except Tenzin is pointless in Book 1 and Tenzin himself is also pointless beyond Book 1.

Tenzin did have a purpose in the story, and so did Lin and Asami.

What purpose, pray tell, did Asami have in the story? She's even more superfluous to it than Mako, Bolin and Lin were. There's a reason she stops being a concrete character and becomes a plot device after her and Mako break-up. Hell, even Lin doesn't have a purpose in the story. She barely contributes in any meaningful manner half the time.

Caleb Sanders
Caleb Sanders

Keep going

Nathan James
Nathan James

I mean shit, with that logic, Tenzin, Lin, Katara, Pema, Asami and the airbender kids were completely superfluous to the story and should have been cut out.

Honestly, most of them could have been cut or at least had their presence toned down. Katara was just there for TLA fanservice (same goes for Zuko and Toph). Asami was either a rival for Korra, a cheerleader for Korra/Mako, or a way for Korra's posse to get gadgets ala Sokka but without his character arc. Tenzin in the end was just there to support and excuse Korra. The Airbender Kids just bloated out the cast.

I figure the idea of Ozai's Angels was that Azula was the domineering daddy's girl, Mai was the goth thrill seeker in it for the kicks with some bloodshed, and Ty Lee was the team's cinnamon roll who had to be dragged into it. Zuko wouldn't have ended up with Mai at this point.

Mako liking her because she's pretty, that's shallow.

And what did Korra have going for her? She's rude, not especially wise, and not any more attractive than Asami.

That goes for fucking everyone in The Legend of Korra and even some characters like TLA, like Suki.

Suki was never supposed to be a lead like Aang or Zuko. Even then, she had a much stronger case for following the Gaang around than Bolin or Asami had to be Korra's sidekicks after Book One.

If we're measuring characters by how they directly contribute to Korra's story, then everyone except Tenzin is pointless in Book 1 and Tenzin himself is also pointless beyond Book 1.

They were. They largely suffered from being designed for Book One's setting and conflict but but were still kept around as the series went out of Republic City. Verrick (who in Book Two was a neat villain and far better than Unalaq) was there to let the RC characters have something to quest over while Korra and Tenzin were dealing with their Water Tribe family drama.

Hell, even Lin doesn't have a purpose in the story. She barely contributes in any meaningful manner half the time.

Unless you count the Beifong's family drama. Which can be abriged as:

Lin is spot-on about Suyin being a spoiled criminal who got away with her crime and scarring her big sister thanks to her whore mother but we're supposed to side with Suyin against her and see Lin as some bitter harpy being mean to poor little Su and her daughter

Evan Bell
Evan Bell

This might get me some hate but I didn't actually have a problem with the Beifong family drama…in theory. The story does make the point, several times, that Suyin is pretty remorseful over what happened and Su does make several attempts to make things more comfortable for Lin while Lin is being extremely combative the whole time. The problem was that they didn't really demonstrate Su's redemption arc, so we see a jarring disjoint between young Su and older Su. Plus, the way it was resolved with Lin being all ill and then passing out and waking all friendly and chipper was stupid as fuck. I know Bryke were basically ripping off the Zuko arc from Book 2 but they forget that a) it didn't work and b) Zuko's inner turmoil was vastly different to Lin's.

Now, Suyin's treatment of Kuvira, that was awful and really killed her character.

Jonathan Rogers
Jonathan Rogers

Mako liking her because she's pretty, that's shallow.
And what did Korra have going for her? She's rude, not especially wise, and not any more attractive than Asami.
None of them had anything beyond the writers telling us "these characters will now attempt to pair up romantically with each other." There wasn't some "first innocent crush" like Aang had with Katara (the last waterbender from the SWT who has a bone to pick with the Fire Nation - the antagonists of this journey.)
Mako and Korra can compliment themselves on the rude and not especially wise front but there isn't anything of them that would stand out for a story to be told like Aang and Katara.

were now officially on the Equalists' "biggest shitlords" list after helping Korra.
Amon captured Lin and takes her bending. Amon would have taken Mako and Bolin's bending even if they hadn't helped the Avatar just like he took Lin's and that's it. He didn't kill Lin for her actions despite those actions making her be on the "biggest shitlords" list.
the topic at hand?
The fact that he had to have a reason to say "she's great" to Bolin and not "Nah, I'm in it for the money" when they discuss Korra and Asami. He fell for the girl who hit him instead of the girl who stuck around and helped him and his brother stay in the rigged sport that he apparently didn't know he had to cough up a fee to participate in for the championship, the thing he had his sights on.

did Asami have in the story?
Initially for season 1. If she was a spy then she was a spy. If she's the daughter of the person funding the new world order who made that decision based on his wife's murder, then she's showing that anger and suffering should not be all that influences your actions. Even her "part" in season 2 would have a purpose if they didn't end up giving it to the brothers. She doesn't want to follow in her father's footsteps and make weapons, but weapons sell. Of course the whole thing is wonky as hell considering their business model should have them make bank by selling planes to the other countries and even the URN just not bombs or explosives. That is if they still went with the plot of the civil war and all the stupidity.
Though they all have barely anything meaningful. They are definitely not like Sokka, Katara, Zuko, or Aang who have the central idea of the Fire Nation driving them in their journey for different reasons.

Camden Smith
Camden Smith

The story does make the point, several times, that Suyin is pretty remorseful over what happened

It did now? Suyin keeps going on how SHE's such an amazing woman now and not doing that criminal work anymore. While Lin is accused of being stuck in the past and gets her ex brought up. Lin is presented as a bitter harpy who needs to accept Suyin, Suyin doesn't need to accept Lin.

Su does make several attempts to make things more comfortable for Lin while Lin is being extremely combative the whole time.

Suyin went behind Lin's back to let Korra's posse chase after the Red Lotus after she said not to in blatant disrespect for her postion.

Now, Suyin's treatment of Kuvira, that was awful and really killed her character.

Apparently seeking the end of EK's monarchy is only allowed when Suyin does it. Of course, they needed some way to show that Kuvira is a bad lady and having Suyin oppose is one. Of course, Kuvira still failed to show on-screen she would be a worse option than Wu until the giant robot came by.

Asher Sanchez
Asher Sanchez

Amon captured Lin and takes her bending. Amon would have taken Mako and Bolin's bending even if they hadn't helped the Avatar just like he took Lin's and that's it. He didn't kill Lin for her actions despite those actions making her be on the "biggest shitlords" list.

Which really just supports my point that there was absolutely nothing ulterior about Mako going to Air Temple Island along with Bolin and Asami. Even if he had no feelings for Korra, that still would've made sense as opposed to saying "nah, we're cool to going back to being homeless and basically open to getting attacked by Equalists at a moment's notice with no one to help".

The fact that he had to have a reason to say "she's great" to Bolin and not "Nah, I'm in it for the money" when they discuss Korra and Asami. He fell for the girl who hit him instead of the girl who stuck around and helped him and his brother stay in the rigged sport that he apparently didn't know he had to cough up a fee to participate in for the championship, the thing he had his sights on.

He complimented Korra's bending when originally being against her presence on the team because he didn't think she would make it in pro-bending then saw he single-handedly save their asses from getting knocked out of the tournament and realized that she was better than he thought. And no, it still has nothing to do with the topic at hand, which is apparently organic development of Korra and Mako's relationship and opposed to Korra crushing on him and Mako ignoring her until the plot had him do a 180 because reasons.

Initially for season 1. If she was a spy then she was a spy.

What the fuck does that mean? She wasn't a spy, so end of story there.

If she's the daughter of the person funding the new world order who made that decision based on his wife's murder, then she's showing that anger and suffering should not be all that influences your actions.

So now you're changing your definitions of what defines a character's purpose? By that token, I can say that Mako and Bolin's role in the story was to show the struggle of lower-class benders. Not to mention that was not Asami's role, that was Hiroshi's role. Asami did not need to exist for that theme to be conveyed.

Even her "part" in season 2 would have a purpose if they didn't end up giving it to the brothers.

What "part"? The Varrick subplot was Mako's to begin with, Asami was merely a plot device in the entire scheme of things.

She doesn't want to follow in her father's footsteps and make weapons, but weapons sell.

So now you're openly making shit up in order to try and prove that Asami wasn't just a superfluous plot device even more pointless to the plot than Mako and Bolin?

Sebastian Foster
Sebastian Foster

*then saw her

Jayden Gray
Jayden Gray

The Varrick subplot was Mako's to begin with

Verrick was only there so that the Mako/Bolin/Asami Trio had something to do when Korra was doing her little family drama with her uncle up until Vaatulaq attacked RC for… something (I mean, for how much he went on about muh spirits and muh tradition he never acted like RC was some Babylon that needed to burn).

A shame really, he was far better than Unalaq if only from him having a coherent characterization and plan (a shameless exploiter using the WT Civil War to line his pockets), unlike Uncle Unalaq who bounced from what I think was some reactionary Northern Water Tribe chauvinist to a cultist for a dark god who'll drown the world in chaos. Which is made even worse by how we're apparently supposed to see him as having a legitimate case for his actions since Korra keeps the portals open even after seeing how dangerous spirits are towards humans.

Aaron Carter
Aaron Carter

From what I've been able to gleam, Unalaq's speech at the beginning of Book 2 about the world becoming less spiritual and more materialistic or something is supposed to outline his worldview…but it still doesn't explain why he worships and wants to release a literal God of Ultimate Evil whose goal is to destroy the whole world. He really takes the cake for being the worst written villain in the show and when you consider that he's competing against "muh daddy was mean to me so I became a commie" Noatak, "muh chaos ayn sheeeit" Zaheer and "muh adoptive mommy was a bitch so I became a crazy dictator" Kuvira in that department, that's fucking saying something.

Also, unappreciated pairings thread.

I was always partial to Cosmic Boy and Saturn Girl myself.

Ryder Gray
Ryder Gray

Unalaq's speech at the beginning of Book 2 about the world becoming less spiritual and more materialistic or something is supposed to outline his worldview

We see little of the Water Tribe's religion and any actual signs that the state of it (or lack of it) in the present might be a negative thing. The rampaging spirits turn out to be in Unalaq's employ. He claims to seek to spirits and humans living in harmony yet we see in the Wan flashback that humanity lived in terror of spirits with Vaatu spreading chaos. I'm sure Unalaq didn't know about the millenias of darkness which raises the question of how he learned about Vaatu and what the beast did to get his trust even if he insisted on opening the portals.

but it still doesn't explain why he worships and wants to release a literal God of Ultimate Evil whose goal is to destroy the whole world.

It doesn't address him going through the trouble of conquering the Southern Water Tribe and framing his brother either. If his plan all along was to open the portals and fuse with Vaatu, then what was he bothering to war on SWT for? He was already the ruler of both poles. He could have just asked Korra to help him get far enough to open both portals then run off to get Vaatu.

The ending trying to say that Unalaq even after all that he did still had a legit case (don't lose sight of tradition and your spirit) is undermined by Korra losing all of her past lives, the spirits repeatedly showing in TLA with LoK that at best operate human concerns, and Korra throwing away many centuries after many centuries of tradition by keeping the portals open.

Blake Sullivan
Blake Sullivan

even the fucking animators were confused by the Korrasami shit because it wasn't what they originally made. I recall the voice actresses for Korra and Asami were called back too to re-record the ending.

This is a bit old but do you have sources for this? I had my doubts about the ending so it'd be neat to back them up.

Colton Wood
Colton Wood

Continue or send a link pls

Ian Hernandez
Ian Hernandez

send a link to what?
I will try to write up a part 2 sometime in the coming days (maybe even today), I am home for Christmas so I will have a bit of time but my folks are having me run errands for them so it might be later in the day when I have free time.

Jeremiah Thompson
Jeremiah Thompson

Still overthinking something as badly written and shitty as LoK
Overthinking any aspect of it at all

Dylan Richardson
Dylan Richardson

It's occured to me that Korra leaving the portals open lets a future writer for the (damaged) Avatar brand have a way to trash LoK and scale the setting back.

The Earth Kingdom falls apart ala the Soviet Union into chaos. Kuvira's followers carry on calling her a weakling and continue to weaponize spirits.
Amon's army resurfaces, since it would be easy enough to pass him off as a martyr with the exposure of his benderhood as a scheme by RC's government to discredit him
The spirits, who already have contempt for humanity get even saltier
The world falls apart from spirit blasts, spirit rampages, Amon and Kuvira's followers on the rampage until there's a Dark Age for at least the continent
The Avatar cycle is messed up from Korra's antics. Vaatu and Raava are retconned into pieces of the world soul that incarnates as the Avatar
After a long quest, a team-up between humans and spirits who agree that the two should live seperate manages to get all the spirits back where they belong.
Once enough time passes, the cycle starts anew

Carter James
Carter James

Korra's f***ed; let it go.

Ian Kelly
Ian Kelly

I recall a dead tumblr blog going over the politics in Korra's production. With Korrasami being listed as an example.

Juan Price
Juan Price

BROWN

Thomas Perry
Thomas Perry

What's the best look for Korra? I like her season1 hair-style.

Jacob Kelly
Jacob Kelly

Water Tribe…………..

Elijah Johnson
Elijah Johnson

Post your shit when you end the 6 month drought you triple-nigger

Bentley Peterson
Bentley Peterson

Have it archived?

Ethan Watson
Ethan Watson

promises a video review of Ms. Peregrine
then promises a video review of Death Note
hasn't done either, instead wastes time on a shit video about Blade Cucker that nobody asked for

Get your fucking priorities in order, faggot.

Connor Reyes
Connor Reyes

suddenly
When did you last watch it? Episode 6 is a massive step backwards from Empire, so much that it's easily the worst film of the original trilogy.
Sure, ewoks are silly and the film would probably be better off without them, but you know what is really the worst part? It takes them A FULL FUCKING HOUR to get off of Tatooine. The first act drags on way too long for the payoff.
The shit with Luke on the Death Star is gold. It's just dragged down by everything else.

Dylan Brown
Dylan Brown

If a woman has visible muscles, she HAS to be gay.
How on earth was this considered progressive?

Dominic Edwards
Dominic Edwards

I guess they wound up embracing negative stereotypes and thinking it's progressive or something? Honestly, I say just blame the shippers. They always ruin everything.

Luke Ramirez
Luke Ramirez

How on earth was this considered progressive?
By having Asami not have visible muscles.

Jack Myers
Jack Myers

the whole show is multiple layers of diarrhea

Sebastian Gutierrez
Sebastian Gutierrez

Korra ran into the same problem other stronk womin like Xena and Wonder Woman and Rey in that she's established as one of (if not the most) strongest figures in her world, yet the men around her are far weaker or otherwise unworthy of her. Mako and Bolin were both much weaker than Korra with Bolin never really becoming more than a Sokka Wannabe. Other notable males are villains, too old, too infantile, or bit characters. Come the finale, there weren't any respectable males as opposed to mugging goofballs and lackeys.

Xena went dyke. Wonder Woman gets paired with Superman or Batman with Steve Trevor being ignored. Rey's set up to get with Kylo Ren. Korra too went dyke.

Luis Richardson
Luis Richardson

Korra is a terrible show and might as well be in the same calibur as Big Mouth; Why? Because much like that tripe it doesn't know what kind of story to tell its audience without spite. Not only do I consider it a complete downgrade from ATLA, but the messages and morals it teaches i find to be downright toxic if not actually dangerous to younger generations because a LOT of what Korra tries to laugh off is horrifyingly downplayed
The only character I feel any sort of connection to is Lin, Toph, Zuko, and maybe Tenzin. Everyone else is either too busy whining, too busy being stupid* or too busy farting
It also absolutely floors me that this not only got Studio Mir but also Studio Pierriot AND I can only assume production was so wonky (no thanks to bryke) that it caused all those racial tensions. Both studios can do damn good animation (see Boondocks and Voltron for the former) but holy shit they felt downright wasted on this.
I don't hate Steven Yeun but holy fuck Beginnings pisses me off the more I think about it.
I'm so fucking glad that one tumblr landwhale tried starting shit all over yaoishit after threatening Mir during Voltron airing. Because now even they realize Bryke pandering to these fucking mouth-breathing landwhale neophytes was never a good idea. and hopefully if humanity has any actual worth left; everyone else will realize hopefully

Michael Cooper
Michael Cooper

I´m almost sure i read somenthing like this in a comic of avatar, except the sex part in the end.

Daniel Rodriguez
Daniel Rodriguez

but the messages and morals it teaches i find to be downright toxic if not actually dangerous to younger generations because a LOT of what Korra tries to laugh off is horrifyingly downplayed
What morals are toxic and what is downplayed? I haven't watched the series in a while and I just remember it as being kind of lame but there wasn't anything that made me think that. Except for the forced Korra Asami romance at the end to pander to tumblr

Charles Collins
Charles Collins

Yes, Non-Benders should be treated better
Make the Non-Bender president be some jackass getting in Korra's way

You should respect tradition
Korra ignores millenia on millenia of traditon and keeps the portals open

You should forgive those close to you for their flaws
Suyin tells Kuvira to die in a ditch

Nathaniel Stewart
Nathaniel Stewart

Did Suyin tell her that before Kuvira became a dictator or after?

Jonathan Sanders
Jonathan Sanders

Bataar Jr. with Bolin helped Kuvira, and while Bolin was apparently too infantile to notice her conquering Junior wasn't. Suyin let Verrick work under her who's a war profiteer making it ring even more hollow.

Kuvira did what she did to aid her country. Suyin did what she did best (letting those close to her down) and sat around as the Earth Kingdom sunk into chaos. She made critical remarks on the monarchy yet suggested no fixes herself. Neither did Korra.

Jose Lewis
Jose Lewis

You know, it makes me glad that there will likely be no Avatar sequels in the future. Not just because the Legend of Korra managed to irreversibly fuck the lore but also because it's very likely that the same thing that happened to the Star Wars prequels might happen to Korra and something even worse gets shat out which will have us praising Korra for "at least being creative instead of aping nostalgia" (and Legend of Korra was creative…even if any good ideas it had were pissed down the drain). And I don't want to be in that position, not even hypothetically.

Samuel Barnes
Samuel Barnes

Here's the key difference that ruins Legend of Korra.

Colton James
Colton James

unappreciated pairings thread.

I always feel like these two get the short end of the stick in comics. DC just doesn't seem to be interested in any relationship that doesn't eventually end with a member of the Bat-family fucking it up

Ryan Kelly
Ryan Kelly

Agreed. Azula craved love and approval from her mother and it's commented that Zuko is very much like his mother. She absolutely had some sort of fixation on him and desired his affection. Pic related.

Eli Davis
Eli Davis

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Justin Lewis
Justin Lewis

For the 2nd pic is that just for the 1st season or the entire show? also sauce.

Nathan Peterson
Nathan Peterson

I would expect this kind of thing to have made Korra's writing more coherent and planned, damn.

Jose Reyes
Jose Reyes

They were never good, not even in ATLA

They were animators, not writers

Gabriel Collins
Gabriel Collins

They were the creators, you moron. They were writers for multiple episodes.

Adam Turner
Adam Turner

Before ATLA, they were only animation directors

Alexander Roberts
Alexander Roberts

Yeah, they really fucked up with Superboy and Wonder Girl. Problem is that DC is filled to the brim with WonderBat fags who always try to surreptitiously push their shitty pairing through in any way possible.

Carter Turner
Carter Turner

underappreciated pairings

Benjamin Hall
Benjamin Hall

I actually loved the shit out of this. Especially the revenge she got on his murderer. But it was sad that he died.

Oliver Wright
Oliver Wright

HELLO, MEGAN!

Brody Sanchez
Brody Sanchez

tfw we could have gotten a slightly different series this time about a young girl air bender on adventures (who also happens to be Aangs grand-daughter) but instead we got Whorra.

Ryder Flores
Ryder Flores

wait… are they implying that she fucking tortured and raped the guy who murdered her boyfriend? holy shit that's fucking dark as hell and all kinds of fucked up! please share more of this.

Kevin Hughes
Kevin Hughes

Slave Korra is pretty great but the allure evaporates as soon as you knowledge of TLOK expands anywhere further than brown girl a cute.

James Walker
James Walker

The guy survived, but he needed a full body cast afterwards.

Oliver Anderson
Oliver Anderson

Bryke have either daddy or mommy issues. Name a single character in ATLA/Korra that doesn't have a problem with one or both parents.

Sebastian Roberts
Sebastian Roberts

It's daddy issues. Bryan Konietzko even talked about the father being a force of opposition that holds the hero back.

It's telling that while the series repeatedly had fathers/father figures/male authority be presented as villains, inept, or just holding the hero:

Tenzin and Co. are presented as being in the wrong for keeping Korra shut away
Aang neglected his non-Tenzin kids while Katara isn't called out even though you'd assume she knew what Aang was doing enabled him to do it
Amon had issues with his father
Korra got into conflict with her father.
Tarrlok was a villain (if a sympathetic one) while Raiko is presented as a two-bit politician getting in Korra's way.
Prince Wu a swaggering wannabe playboy that obviously isn't fit to rule (until he suddenly is) >Raava is female while Vaatu is male (despite their positions in yin-yang suggesting it would be the other way around).

While the mothers/mother figures/female authority were presented in a much brighter light:

Toph isn't condemned for her poor parenting by anybody besides Lin (who's presented as a bitter harpy)
Suyin rules a great city and Korra's posse approves her with just mean Lin and villain Kuvira having a harsh word to say about her
Kuvira is the final big villain but she's butch and still ends the show in better shape than every other big villain short of Zaheer
The Earth Queen is a villain and feminine but is a stepping stone for Zaheer
Toph's relationship with her parents was retconned in the comics so that her mother was always supportive of her lifestyle while her father gets pinned as the one keeping her down (complete with his wife divorcing him).
Raava is female while Vaatu is male

Nathaniel Morris
Nathaniel Morris

Name a single character in ATLA/Korra that doesn't have a problem with one or both parents.
Desna and Eska. Sorta. Their issues started only when it turned out that their dad was trying to merge with the manifestation of evil.

Toph isn't condemned for her poor parenting by anybody besides Lin (who's presented as a bitter harpy)
Reminder that Lin did nothing wrong and everybody was gaslighting and guilt tripping her into forgiving her sister.

Juan Mitchell
Juan Mitchell

Have another.
Zuko's mom isn't called out for abandoning her children for a childhood boyfriend then making a deal with a spirit so she doesn't even remember them
But then again Azula doesn't get a good ending for her arc or even real closure with her mommy issues. That's still just one point for mommy issues compared to the dozens of points of daddy issues.

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