Maddow Salt Thread: Demoralize the Redditors edition

Some premium banter from /ourguy/ James Woods

So basically I made this thread to kek at the Maddow Incident Salt but also to brainstorm demoralization campaigns for the plebbitors.

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I'm sorry lads, I just don't have the stomach for this sort of wetwork. Godspeed to the rest of you though.

I support your work and wish you well in your efforts.

may I suggest gulf of Tonkin and a "this lady is realesing twelve year old tx retunrs and basically she just made trump's second turn.?
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postan a great analysis from the last thread


Consensus engineering is a fantastic term. It's the exact opposite of consensus cracking and D&C. What I see in your screencap is even better - it's forced out-grouping. You can see two users out-grouping "ConservativeTraitors" by first insisting he's an extremist, and then by reinforcing it through an observation he can make himself, and will probably find to be true.
Also, when I said I made a longer post, I wasn't talking about my previous one you replied to. I had written a shitload in exploring the distinctions of concern trolling versus what that guy was doing, but in the end I couldn't resolve any meaningful differences, so I backspaced it all away and wrote what you saw.

Shilling reddit sounds really stupid and frustrating, but the thing is, it would be SO EASY to fuck with them and seriously disrupt the lives of so many liberals. We are fucking experts at shills because we encounter them constantly, but 99.9% of plebbitors have no idea shills even exist, let alone the ability to find them. Imagine being able to cast huge swaths of liberals into disarray through slow shifting of their overton window, by creating a new consensus among them and slowly in-group and out-grouping them. You'd force the extremists even further away and make them feel isolated, and the more moderates would slowly move right.
Also, I think you're flat wrong about Holla Forums not knowing moderatism despite our extremism, and I'm glad you said what you said. We are absolute experts at recognizing moderatism versus extremism. We call out more moderate groups all the time when they get co-opted, but we also know the true cuckservative types are almost a lost cause that just have to be eliminated. The thing is, we have to know which is which to make any distinctions at all. From what I read on here, most of us are about as far right as it gets. I mean, our points of argument are whether we let other races live on Earth or whether we fucking kill everybody.
The left, particularly the extreme left, have absolutely no perspective on this. They basically see themselves as normal and everybody ELSE as the extremists - the old "how can they possibly not agree with me?" mindset. That's one of their big flaws - they are unable to distinguish between compatible and incompatible groups, so they just let everybody in and their movement gets diluted into feminist bullshit and rendered useless. The progressive stack at Occupy Wall Street comes to mind - and although I'm not that well read on that, a lot of people think the downfall of OWS was engineered on the outside by simply giving them a little push in the wrong direction, and their jenga tower of diversity all fell down.
This is why I'd like to do some serious shilling on reddit to fuck with them more - it wouldn't take a whole lot to send them entirely out of control. You could pose as a more extreme left group, like some kind of ultra antifa, and try to forcibly in-group all of the actual moderates, or at least make them tolerate your extreme views. You can blackpill the shit out of them and get them totally disinterested in politics. You can create a more right-leaning consensus and try to force them along with you as you slowly move the ideology with other Holla Forumsacks in a coordinated way. Then you stand back and watch it burn while David Brock cries in James Alefantis' arms.

OWS was really a bastardised offshoot of the 9/11 truth movement whom tried to distance themselves from and shun OWS early on.

When Soros gets the antifags and rest of the paid fucks involved, your effort is toast.


And yes, shilling on reddit is definitely effective. They are blind to concern trolling in most places because 'organic' liberals are so far and few between, they'll lap up anyone outside of shareblue and upvote it for you. Literally you can get shareblue to work against themselves because the people who do that type of work are such deadshits.
Also a great way to make sleeper accounts with high karma.

Slowly but surely, we are reducing the Shareblue arsenal to nothing. Like a warehouse full of dead maxforce engines.

I have advocated starting 'fake left' and other subs before. If we can get enough of us together, then yes it can happen. Especially with the right x-posting and chatter to get shariablue in to upboat it for us.

I still think though we should work on freeing T_D from reddit and making the most powerful internet army in the world. No shit. Imagine Holla Forums at the helm of a free from T&C and censorship T_D? We'd be an unstoppable shitposting, brigading military force responding to any area of concern. Split the management up into sub-groups to manage and specialise each social media subgroup/website to target. With 100s of thousands of soldiers in all time zones, who the fuck needs bullets when you control the information.

What did mustacho man say?

T_D was basically ours, people were openly posting shit about niggers and chimpouts, even the odd post about merchants. The mods bit by bit got kiked and more Holla Forums friendly users were forced out, they added rules about antisemitism etc. The rest is history and now T_D is the poz pool, the only realy vestige of its origin is not holding back against Shitlam (surprise, surprise, the most kosher position).

/r/ing the classic 'based nigger' T_D rainbow picture.

I think it's in reference to the AL capon vault letdown.

T_D used to be a decent place to drop some sneaky red pills on normies, but that stopped abruptly. I lost accounts for innocuous shit like "Israel isn't the only democracy in the ME, Lebanon has had a functioning democracy for almost a century."

I noticed this shift but the hilarious thing is what's happened now is it's too big to mod and has almost come full circle.

Most rules are not enforced, you can easily brigade 'innocuous links' as long as no one is singled out etc.. just as long as we don't shit on their shilled out /r/politics holy land.

Chimpouts are pretty regularly these days, especially when BLM were doing typical nigger behaviour. Definitely more old school Liveleak and Holla Forums type shit infecting it again slowly. And there is deffo undercurrent of WP and similar, the latest Islam shit is stirring the pot again bigly and red/black pilling many users there. Also seen plenty of red pill comments pointing out the kikes running media and stuff getting hugely upvoted.
Many will post under a guise of 'unity' but when you prod you'll find many are sick of race mixing and the rest of the degenerate shit going on.

It's slowly happening, the pot is boiling. We just need to get in there and add the right ingredients and stir appropriately so it doesn't burn either….

p.s. Interesting pic - I know someone who was in foreign legion, went and shot heaps of niggers in north africa and then was employed by IS to go and shoot both sides to start things off in Syria.

There were some highly compromised mods around the election. I also was banned after then for calling to leave T_D but I also called the mods cucks (dissent rule). Now the sheer volume is so high they're calling for random volunteers to help mod in rotation… go figure.

I'm now testing these limits again but have said some pretty heated stuff far worse than you were banned for. I think it all depends on if you fit the 'T_D mannerisms'. If you make your point succinctly and also drop the red pill sneakily the mods look the other way.

Just like trump saying the ultra blatant
It leaves wriggle room in case you are called out on it.

Checking these dub dubs.

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I think it's time to reactivate Mr_Trump

When the purge happens, remember that Vince, Mel, and James Woods are our inside men.

Why not call it "context creation"?

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Don't trust Woods. He may have changed in the last 25 years, but in the early '90s he was a fucking degenerate.

t.Personal knowledge, but from long ago. Maybe he's reformed.

Bless you user.

Does that picture mean they aren't going to shoot globalists?
Also, is Nigel holding a street sweeper? Stupid shotgun.

ah no that looks like a grenade launcher.

Create Context

Thanks, user!

I played that game, it was a street sweeper

fucking video game developers.

It was a simpler time, when murdering an airport full of Slavs was the edgiest thing in gaming, rather than a transsexual VR dildo testing game.

T_D is a necessary evil. We just need to twist it in the right direction (less normie faggotry) and off to a more controlled rallying/shitbrigading ground, it is just watered down red pills to prepare them for later.

Milo is also a necessary evil to get the mainstream cucks, sjws and fagsQXIYSOIQT to begin licking red pill.
You have to see the big picture. This is literally cyber warfare on all fronts, it's not WW2. It's a mesh network called the Internet. Not everyone is 'Holla Forums' yet. Some never will be. And I use quotations because many pre-based as fuck people, no different to all of us here, come from other backgrounds than 8ch too - it's not the only redpill place.
It's just like the lady in the red dress sequence in the Matrix.

There have been attempts.jpg

We can try. But really we have to meme this into existence. Always wondered about deathstars and trumps, powerful imagery that gets minds working, creating our own distributed battle station.
wut now?
BTFO brock/cia niggers

They've already got a penchant for hating mudslimes nearly unfiltered but only rarely do you see mentions of (((anyone else))). T_D is nearly ripe. Just need to steer it a little bit. Some light shitposting now and then'll do it.

Controlled opposition locks many into being defenders of kikes though. Better to be destroyed.

In the original context, they were Russian soldiers carrying out a false flag, and the one guy is reminding the others not to speak Russian. Hence: "No Russian". This meme is very commonly misused.

the_donald is now overrun by eceleb crypto-kikes. Look at how prominent Bill Mitchell has managed to make himself there despite attacking recognition of the white genocide. There are only a couple users that post his shit there, it's been an organized shilling brigade promoting him and trying to change who leads the community.

I fucking hate that brand of anti-white cuckservative. What goes their brain, do they think their fucking conservative principles will matter when their family and people are bred out of existence in their homeland? One factor of his being posted frequently is his massive number of followers, which I get the impression largely comprise fake accounts considering how fucking basic he is.

Large noses.

plz remove this image from my brain

I might actually watch a bit of her show tonight to see if there's any asshurt from the source. but she'll probably hide it well

Never can silence them except with force.

You're right, we need to increase the lighter shitposting against other groups but it has to be quality. If in doubt, wait it out. It has to be done on the right articles and places.
Stuff like the 99% black african countries needing some rapefugees to balance out their 'racism and lack of diversity' (using SJW buzzwords against themselves is hilariously effective) and similar examples, then pushing for why can't european/white countries have the same rights/culture etc, point out white minority world wide etc.

Perfect example of this being taken too far lately (with SJWs everything is too far), is the feminists are tearing themselves apart over similar (possible?) tactics, claiming that 'white feminists' are privileged and don't understand the true feminism etc.. Kek indeed.

Interesting, largely ignored him because he seemed like a faggot so no wonder. Should we coordinate daily ops to cleans his degenerative shit out of there? some memes and text posts at 0230-0600 LAX time..
T_D loves rats and shills being ousted so we just need to equate him to one being outed by trump and he's dead if the bots are true. Bots are more ammo to use too.


Rinse and repeat as above. We can shut down the CIAniggers/shadowgovt and their slide shit at every level if we each recognise threats with our own strengths, coordinate together and respond.


Ultimately our goal is to shift T_D to two bases to make the deathstar self manifest. Maintain exposure on reddigg but coordinate the real shit offsite, in a centralised area, e.g. www.T_Dch.net lobby + main info areas then have separate ops areas e.g. /twat/ twitter ops, /fb/ facebook ops, /ll/ Liveleak etc etc to form interlinked compartments for each main front.

Can we get our people in there? There are a growing number it seems. T_D trusts Holla Forums….

We have to work together, it's the only way to win, we have to infect each website with a unified and organic/real message. Sherman tank/Zerg style, sheer god damn numbers. Just like Don winning, the reality of truth can only be denied by a hypocrite for so long. That's what the end game is. We just have to keep pushing the TrumpTruth train. We started that bitch, he's in, it's ours now, as everyone in T_D realises Trump is just the start of the truth rabbit hole.

Bill Mitchell is a kike, user. White concerns don't matter to him because he isn't. The reason it's so dangerous to allow kikes in to any position of prominence is because they will always use that position to co-opt the movement and stop it from being anti-kike. It's a long game they play, and I don't even know if all of them are intentionally playing that game, but the end result is the same. If T_D goes full REMOVE KIKES, a contingent loyal to Mitchell and other kikes in power will try to subvert that movement. It's exactly what we saw with Red Ice and TRS. As soon as things get too dangerous for the kikes in power, they start shilling "muh based jews" and "I'm jewish and look what I've done for pro-white or pro-Trump causes, save me from the gas!" Even if Mitchell is simply a money grubbing merchant trying to gain followers, and has no explicit intention to co-opt T_D, you can bet your ass if T_D ever displays anti-semitic thought he will be right there decrying it as a pure reaction, along with others that have been deceived to be useful idiots because of their follower complex.

The reason I hate e-celebs so much - and I'm sure a lot of you share this opinion - is that their identity is the reason for their popularity, and the people they attract are basically a personality cult, rather than an ideological one. In other words, people get too attached to the youtubers they like to watch, and instead of considering the ideology they promote, they simply like the person and cease all logical thought about their words. I don't think that's really the fault of the youtubers themselves, other than the inevitable ego that fame of any kind creates. The real issues are their audience's inability to separate the ideas they hear from the person that speaks them, and their inability to filter through some of the bullshit that person will inevitably spout. If a youtuber is talking about how the holocaust is bullshit, and then all of the sudden makes videos recanting everything they say (e.g. Eric Hunt recently), most of their audience is more inclined to go along with the "new" thing they heard, rather than considering the arguments and ideas at hand and adopting for themselves what fits best.

I don't have a magical solution to that problem although I've been thinking about it a lot. I think it's inevitable you're going to have vast swaths of normalfags that will just follow the leader no matter what the leader says to do, because they are unable to think for themselves. The only response to that would be for us to create our own e-celebs, rather than trying to use ones that already exist, and repeat the formula we know works well: minimize their ability to be subverted through identity minimization or anonymity.

The only solution I've come up with is to have a bunch of similarly named youtube accounts that remove as much identity as possible, and which are able to maintain a consensus if one of them is compromised. That would require some significant behind the scenes collaboration, itself which would have to be guarded against subversion. We're fortunate in that it's extremely hard to co-opt us on here because of the culture of ideas / truth that exists and the fact that anonymity plays in to that perfectly. If we really want to do outreach, we have to carry that same lack of identity with us on namefag websites and social media, and be able to maintain a lack of ego as we gain listeners and followers.

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Attacking T_D is tougher than concern trolling plebbit liberals. Some of them are smart enough to spot a shilling op, especially if it happens all at once. At its core, the problem is the mod team being compromised and deleting posts they find personally objectionable, like anything anti-kike. Taking over the mod team would be difficult - you'd effectively have to convince the userbase of T_D that your account is a better fit than one of the existing mods, and you're ultimately going to need a majority of mods to create the context you need. Alternatively, you'd have to dox the shit out of the mods and show they're being paid by Shareblue or something, but even then, the mods would have to voluntarily give up their positions and that's going to be tough.

A possibly easier alternative would be to create a new community, whether on plebbit or voat, which is explicitly pro-Trump and very similar to T_D, but which is entirely moderated by us and dedicated to free speech. That would allow us to promote the fact that we can literally say anything we want, and to shill T_D with the idea that the new community we made is cooler than T_D. You could do this by exposing instances in which the mods on T_D are deleting posts and preventing discussion, and slowly upping the intensity of the discontent you espouse, while providing the solution to all the problems: go somewhere else for real free speech discussion.

Because of their follower mentality, the users won't want to get implicitly out-grouped by being part of T_D when a more trendy community exists that still agrees with their basic ideology. From there, you simply have to keep promoting the new community externally, and slowly promote a more extreme ideology internally. The catch is that despite promoting a free speech message, what you're really doing is establishing a carefully curated direction for the community. You allow almost anything to be said, but you police external shills and concern trolls heavily, or you attack them visibly as moderators so the community will latch on to you and follow your lead against the shills. You have to do this or you risk losing your followers, because they are always looking for the next thing to latch to. And you can never allow any of the users to become moderators or have any power - it has to be externally controlled or you risk subversion of the whole thing.

SOMEBODY SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO VISIT DAVID CAYE JOHNSTON'S ADDRESS, APARTMENT 4K. DID user DO IT?

Has PJW ever covered kikes?
He's pretty based, nationalist and pro everyone having their own identity, especially white people type stance.
Always considered doing YT properly, was actually part of the initial partner roll out in early-mid 00s but unfortunately can't do this shit to that level, due to certain connections.

But the latter idea you suggested would be far more possible, if we coordinate like your next post.

I like your ideas. This seems like the path of least resistance but the long game, we have 3 years.
We need to form another community. Voat would be easiest for now and it already has appeal and recognition. I have an idea for a sub name. I will create it and post it here.
Have a nearly 2 year old account there + some other ones. Caveat: only 30 day accounts can create new subs. Conveniently I have a burner @ 27 days currently which can be used to form the sub. I'm pretty sure new accounts can be added from there to mod team. I guess it's best to start with fresh accounts, user and all..

Another problem is to keep the ranks pure and based. I'm happy to contribute as I'd imagine you and others would be too. Perhaps part of the rule to be there is you must also contribute with that account, either voat or elsewhere in a trackable (to us only) and verifiable way. Our word (all we have here) is all we can go on. But if you deviate from the established narrative here, the ban hammer hovers close.
RULE #1: YOU MUST NOT POST DOXXABLE/TRACKABLE PERSONAL INFORMATION
If you dox yourself, you're out.

We outed a kike mod from Holla Forumsniggers (that faggot banned me in the early days) and took it over using this tactic, by creating Holla Forumscoontown for a while, rallying. Now it appears to be taken back due to doxxing and they are re-rallying elsewhere. Hence the above warning. Holla Forumscoonshire is next place and they want to get CT back. That place has been shoad about 5x now. 2x reddit - r/Niggers then r/coontown, v/niggers, v/CT then v/niggers/coonshire back again now.
If that's not enough of a warning of what we are up against then I don't know what is.
We must learn from past voat mistakes by others as the kikes and sjws viciously attack the extreme parts, we would be subject to similar but less vehement bullshit if we keep it underhanded enough.

What do you think?

PJW is a kike shill. Whether he's actually one himself is immaterial, he's made it clear that's the team for which he bats. He's in leagues with Cernovich and the other kike co-horts on twitter and youtube. He promotes a ton of civnat bullshit as well, just like the rest of them. I admit it's hard to avoid doing that when you're trying to redpill people - you have to lead them along to more extreme viewpoints or they can reject you outright - but the point is that you have to make some progress. If your intention is to ultimately lead people to be natsoc, for example, you have to appear to honestly consider natsoc points of view when people throw them at you, not call them racist anti-semite nazis every single time. There's keeping up appearances and then there's outright rejection.

As far as setting up something on voat, the best plan would be to have the mod accounts all be effectively anonymous as well. Shared names with numbers after them, something like that. Best if those accounts never actually post except to out shills - create other alts and make actual posts and comments with those, never tie the two together to keep identities separate.

Construct or steal an identity and make new e-mail addresses and everything around that new identity. Only use your voat accounts in that context, keep it totally separate. Run it all in a VM on your computer or something so it's all centralized and you minimize the risk of making a mistake. Completely reject all forms of chat apps, especially Discord. They're namefag as hell and have lots of security issues like IP leaks. You don't need it to coordinate things - if you have a group of mods on a voat subverse already you can discuss things among yourselves on there, so long as you don't get infiltrated. Making a board on here would be okay too, but it should be unlisted and not linked to much, certainly not in any thread OPs.

Last and most importantly, be willing to grenade the entire thing at the drop of a hat if need be. If it ever looks unsalvageable or you start getting infiltrated, blow it all up sky high and start over again fresh, new identities, new names, claim to be former users of the old place that are starting it up new and with different intentions, but in reality you're doing it all the same again.

The biggest thing we need is numbers though. If you only have a couple Holla Forumsacks it will be very hard to generate the slow shift of opinions on T_D that the new place is better and more trendy. We'd need to slowly but surely promote it on here, without making dedicated threads or being too visible. Better to promote it slowly and be careful in recruiting than to shine a huge spotlight on what is being done. Bring it up mid-way through social media related threads on here, discuss the idea of shilling on reddit, seek out anons that are interested in helping, vet them as best you can and let them in on what is going on.

Agreed on all.
I'm wondering though, it seems the 'easy' acceptable limit to Holla Forums thought is something around the following; that each race/culture has it's own area/country to do it in and they stick to themselves. rapefugees/$tourists can fuck off back to shitskinistan/balkans etc. Race mixing is bad because then we all look the fucking same and have no 'dey cultcha'.

Anything beyond that, e.g. advocating killing all 'x' starts to really get hard to push unless we can get them chimping out on WW2.5 level. Path of least resistance is how to do this.


Re: Numbers, v/TheDonald is pretty free speech… we could recruit from there to get initial numbers up. I think it'll be difficult though as it's already pretty free. We need something to distinguish ourselves with.

Salon is getting into the Madcow bashing

salon.com/2017/03/15/rachel-maddows-epic-fail-msnbc-host-rick-rolls-social-media-on-trumps-taxes-and-exposes-a-liberal-weakness/

Ah shite, I forgot to break the link

What did Maddow do?

They should stop punching to the left.

So where is that kike cunt learningchode? Trying to figure out a new shtick now that his hero got a rough rodgering from a powerful male?

She didn't lurk enough.

PRAISE THE EMPEROR

fail spectacularly

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I missed out on the reason for her salt. I know I'm late in the game but can I get an explanation of what's going on?

lurk more

Being irreparably ass blasted in the Trump Nashville Rally thread. Though its posts have already been deleted.

Go back to 4chan with that shit

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No, fuck off. Two years ago, it became very clear that these self-proclaimed alt-right activists and figureheads were posturing to swoop in and net as many followers as they could. They crept in during a time when gamergate wasn't fully pozzed and had momentum. They picked the cheapest form of entertainment (triggering snowflakes) and used that to anchor their retarded fucking ideas. Reddit is such a shitheap that this trickle down larping bullshit you shill is the same process we have seen for years. It goes from the chans, to reddit, to cancerous sites like imgur and 9gag to social media and finally dies on television.

Stop using this place as a base of operations to subvert somewhere else. It pisses me off enough that Holla Forums does it all the time.

God I love James Woods.

They should but don't tell them that.

they're pretty ban happy even for posting anti zionist. they're kike lovers over there

This was supposed to make me hate Trump, and all it did was make me realize the tax code screws over people. 25%+ in taxes? Damn that is too high. Contact a congressman to change this shit.

you better

Liberals want us to go back to an 80+% tax rate on the top tax bracket.

Rates on every tax bracket in Europe and Canada are higher than Trump's rate. One of the reasons people immigrate here is our taxes are lower than any other first world nation.


Y-yes sir!

This thread is basically green beret autism. A breakway unit focused on teaching the most lethal weapons and tactics to all-comers who are like-minded. Godspeed anons, godspeed.

the crazy thing is even though /r/thedonald is neutered and tame as fuck the owner of reddit STILL wants it gone. they want all politcal views to the right of them silenced.

And people wonder why all these "tax havens" are so rich. People that don't get raped in taxes often feel very empowered to build companies and higher people.

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Because all the caribbean islands have great infrastructure. lol.

I hope you anons who are talking about building a greenhouse to cultivate T_D realise that you are just planning the next chan. If you build it, we will all come. I can't believe this thread is still up.

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and they're also full of niggers.

Does anyone else see the ad at the bottom of a nigger punching a white guy? Whose fucking job is it to screen the ads?

Even the neokikes are losing the plot

I really hope "the current year man" is going to be next.

Is he even alive? He's been irrelevant since CY-0. I doubt Trump would take time out of his schedule to beat a dead horse. I guess I wouldn't mind seeing it though

Are we sure Kristol isn't a double agent, turned somehow by Obama? Retarded RINO commentary replace strawmanning ad nauseum as topic of discussion.

James Woods truly is one of the highest IQ individuals in existence and of all celebrities.

he shilled against trump and trump should make sure he pays forever by making it impossible for them in the gop ever again.

Is he supposed to be a conservative or something? If so, he is the most thinly veiled rino I can think of. He even tweeted a line from the fucking communist manifesto.

Worse, he's a Neoconservative. They're essentially traitorous anti-American communists that unironically worship Trotskike.

So when someone comes along with a plan to correct that, you complain about it, then shill and go slide into the ovens.

Funny how it was okay to post (and it got upboated) bout 'blm chimpouts' and 'typical 'entitled' behaviour' on a lil bow bow nig-out post there.
You think it's so censored but it's not unless you're a fucking idiot about it.

We sure he IS

No, he is. Which is why it's so funny, him and Madcunt should be on the same side but he didn't get the memo.