Steam Machine General

I've never seen anyone even mention owning one of these. Are they actually being sold? Do they run GNU plus Linux?

That's not steam, idiot. That's metane gas.

Just build a PC, the Steam machines are marketed at people too stupid to run a PC but are sick of having no games on their console of choice.

I have no idea why anyone buys modern multiplats, they run like shit on consoles and the controls and settings are fucked on PC.

May as well burn your money.

threadly reminder that SteamOS is nothing more but an ancient version of Debian Stable, thus gathering the older (read: shit) drivers

If I still liked PC gaming I might buy one with an extended warranty, so if the videocard fails or something I don't have to do anything myself. EVGA was pretty amazing when it came to warranties, but if I never had to open another PC in my life I'll die a little happier. A hobby you do for fun shouldn't be filled with so much mundane stupid shit.

OP here. I don't own one but I've done plenty of research.

Alienware Steam machine runs on steam OS and there's different models. The GPU is a 750ti but everything else is upgradeable. It's open source so you can add any program you wish including Linux and even emulator. The thing is the size of a Wii and it is typically cool from what I hear. There's a alpha model which comes with Windows.

The Syber Vapor is a large case design. There's a variety of models that come with different builds. Unlike the Alienware steam machine it's fully upgradeable including the GPU and I believe the psu. But I don't think you can add a second GPU (not sure if that matters or not for high end gaming). There's even a Titan model that uses a Titan GPU. The vapor pro uses a 960 with 2gbs of vram. 8gbs of ram and a i5 processor with W10 for about $800. Also includes a Logitech controller and a mini keyboard.

That's honestly why I'm debating to get one of these. I mean new PC games are DOA these days. I'd never get one off the official site. Just one off eBay or Amazon. Anything that is damaged in shipping is there fault but if you damage your cpu or GPU in installation then it's your fault and no warranty would protect you.

Even new multiplats look a lot better on console then they do on ultra on a high end PC.

If you're going to buy a pre-built, buy a Steam machine, they are made to be in the living room.

But building a regular tower PC is always better in terms of performance price ratio.

True. How long would a 750ti last me?

From experience, I'd say about 2-3 more years.

Maybe less, devs really dropped the ball recently. Games are way too resource intensive and look no different than last gen.

Is there any good laptop that allow games and is good for video editing?

Just buy something that costs a thousand bucks.

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I would like to spend less than 500 if possible.

Or I'm being irreasonable?

And buy then consoles will be playing those games at really good performances. The only PC games that really require a good build are Arma 3 and DayZ.

Extremely.

Keep dreaming.

crap… Is a shame you can't build a laptop with pieces.

Yes, there is no $500 laptop that will let you do that, you can expect to play most games in mid to low settings tho, with some newer ones being unplayable. You will only begin to see dedicated GPUs in $700+ ones and these are the low tier ones.

Laptops are just another form of pre-builts. They exist only to scam the casual market with overpriced computers that break easily.

It would be great if assembling your own laptops was an actual market.

Hey op got you covered

Just build your own PC with best possible parts, and then pirate all games from pirate bay

This is what real PC master race does

Will this happen to steam machines?

go back to reddit fam

Yeah, I got a 360 for only $50 bucks when they were still relatively new and it amazed me how such low specs seemed to do a better job at some things than even my PC could. It really fucking pissed me off when I impulse bought the PC version of Bioshock the day it came out at Target too. I was thinking I was gonna have a fun night playing a new game, only for me to spend hours trying to get the sound to work right and thinking I needed a new soundcard. Then after how many days of not being able to play the game a fucking patch comes out fixing everything. I think that was one of the tipping points for me. I just want to play fucking games.

Indeed. The closest thing I can think of is semi-old Thinkpads.

I am not going to buy one for obvious reasons and I doubt that they will sell well in generally. They need to advertise it more on TV and shit so people outside of steam also hear of it.

These things run with linux right?

I've really been hoping for a good Steam machine or anything else that fits my living room but the market never seemed to kick off.

I have tons of consoles, old and new, and I simply want to add to the collection a device that plays my Windows games. I don't have space or interest in a battlestation. Simple as that.

I could build it myself, no issue there, but it doesn't seem possible to get to an acceptable form factor with a custom build, even though the full upgradability would be a plus.

The Alienware Alpha wasn't totally shit when I looked it up about a year ago, but it didn't hit the sweet spot and I don't think anyone else has either.

Will what happen to steam machines? They are pre-builts.

When the Xbox 360 came out, its specs were astonishing: a triple-core PowerPC in a time when the best you could get was a single-core Pentium 4.

They run a Debian variant with even older packages. If you want a Linux box, you're better off buying a cheapo PC and installing something like Lubuntu or a more minimal distro like Arch or Void Linux.

Not going to use linux myself yet, tried debian and some other distros in the past and a lot of shit I use doesn't work on them yet.

I want linux to succeed to more software gets ported to them. Also maybe then MS would finally start to work on a good OS.

Well there it is. That's it.
My cue to leave this fucking site.
Fucking Reddit, they don't even try to hide their stupid shit anymore.

It's probably bait.-

I mean, if you're that stupid, then you probably should get out.

I'd think that those people would probably just buy a console though. Their market is probably people who already have an interest in PC gaming, but just haven't leapt in, finding it intimidating or something.

I didn't even realize it had that. I guess, I shouldn't have felt so bad about it outperforming my 3gz pentium 4 or whatever I had back then.

well you're going to have to wait for 2020 to pass, because sharing 3D printed laptop chassis and other parts doesn't seem very viable for today.

I'd rather wait for APUs / iGPUs to become viable for moderate gaming (read: not Crysis 3 or the latest ASSFAGGOTS) on laptops over some shitty cut down GTX 670M

You're better off building an ITX PC. Not all computers are towers nowadays, and you can pack a lot of power in a small case.

Linux isn't the best for gaming. Install Windows 7 and GWX, then make Steam run in big picture mode by default on startup. You now have a SteamOS that plays more games.

If you really want a console that badly there are better choices. A Wii U will play every Wii and Gamecube game, and there are piracy related exploits out for it. A PS4 can be hacked to run Linux, so you can make it into a Steam Machine. An old softmodded PS3 can play every PS1, PS2 and PS3 game for free, while also having a fuckton of homebrew.

No.

And SteamOS is dead.

Can retards have generals?

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Well pretty much any AAA went console. I wonder why?

coldshitter

Yeah, at the same time console gaming because total trash, I wonder why.

Yeah but the problem is even those who know nothing about gaming and computers will find out that steamos is overpriced bullshit just by googling a little bit.

Like is there anyone out there who doesn't totally shit on them?

People buy laptops not for gaming. PC sales have declined for years. Laptops are a cheap alternative to a PC.

I have a el cheapo laptop myself for internet, Office and mediaplayer functionality. It has a low end GPU for running 1080p BD rips.

Frankly the only folks who still have PCs are mostly gamers.

Aye true. I haven't bought a (western) triple A game in years.

lmao

They are still overpriced computers that break easily, who said anything about gaming?

I got a very decent laptop for my brother, idk what model it is, but I paid 100€ for it. That shit runs cs:go, borderlands 2 and ut3 at max details and Assassin's Creed 4 was running decently on it too.

That shit was really a good deal.

Have you considered the possibility that there is more to life than being retarded? I know I have.

Oh? I have a 5 year old laptop that still works.

Laptops have a small form factor, are mobile, run silent and use much less power. They are also cheap as fuck nowadays.

Wow that's incredible!

You literally just plug it in. How clumsy are you?

Just build a PC

In the past i managed to bend the pins on my Cpus a couple times rendering them useless, other times i had to force some fans in and broke their legs, shit has improved a lot since then.

Laptopfag please go

I learned about hardware and how to build/upgrade my rig by myself when I was 13 years old, I didnt fuck up once.

Do you have two left hands or just one hemisphere?

HOW DO YOU EVEN? LIKE LITERALLY HOW?

Anything Intel now adays I'm I'm talking as far back as 2007 has bendable pins on the mobo so the CPU has no pins.

HOW?

Yes and no

Graphics detail is getting better, the problem is that the returns are diminishing.

I'm actually waiting after e3 to get one of these because they could announce a new one at the PC expo. Also for higher gpus why do you need to use two gpus instead of just one?

No, the games are running worse with no good reason. Look at Dark Souls 3, it doesn't look that great and it runs like shit.

It's like they stopped developing before it was done and shipped it. There is such a thing as optimization, relying on your customer base to brute force is not a good idea.

Was I talking about optimization? No I fucking wasn't, I was talking about how you think games now, look no different from games of the last generation and how you are objectively wrong.

I did tell you about how optimization on hardware is getting better? No, I didn't, because it isn't.

It's basically marketed for living room gaming. People these days hook up there rigs to a tv and just use a wireless mouse and keyboard. Problem is they can't fit in your entertainment section so these devices can. There mid level gaming rigs so you can play COD and CSGO on ultra.

Does anyone know how good the Syber Vapors are? If I choose between a vapor or an Alienware alpha which one would be a better investment?

cyberpowerpc.com/landingpages/syber/

alienware.com/landings/alpha/#!prettyPhoto

No, go build a rig

There both good rigs? The Syber model is only $150 more than a build it yourself rig. Plus a warranty.

you are full of shit and don't know what computer hardware looks like

this bit specifically

There are Intel CPUs that have no pins, but on the mobo instead.

Just build it yourself and spend the $150 you saved on better parts. I strongly recommend an SSD.

BULLSHIT
you don't put the female connection on something you slot on to something else as it takes up more space than the male connection
and it doesn't change the fact that fat finger fucks will STILL manage to bend the pins by trying to fucking force it in the wrong way

Calm down you fucking sperg, clearly you have never had one.

The Intel CPU doesnt have a "female" connection, it is just a flat surface that the pins are pushed up against to make the connection.

I've been playing my last gen consoles since my PC died and posting with a shitty laptop that cost me a hundred bucks and the keyboard barely works. I would say that the biggest fucking relief is twofold: not having to go on the internet to figure out whether goofy fucking glitches are my machine or the game/what I can do to fix them, and not obsessing over shadows and lighting settings and what the fuck ever trying to get a silky smooth 60fps.

I'm still going to replace my PC just because pirating it still renders a PC cheaper, even with the ridiculously expensive parts you need to buy to play poorly-optimized modern games at PC standards.

here

AMD Cpu's are still using Pin connections

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Let me guess: nintendrone?

The bigger jew that sells prebuilts got replaced by smaller ones that assemble computers.

sounds like your average redditor tbh

The reason I was going to build a PC was because this gens consoles run games like shit. Since next year will be the launch of better performance in consoles then that leaves all those games that will be on steam as well useless. So the only games on PC that aren't on consoles are gonna be iPhone tier games or older games. Your basically paying $1000 to run games on a $500 console.

If your gonna build an expensive PC build one for other uses like really high performance mods or media or even digital sculpture or rendering animation.

There's steam machine models that run on Windows.

remember, 1/4 of Holla Forums is from Central & South America

The tower will outlast that shitty Syber warranty unless you're a nigger and spill Fanta over the top of it.

Build nigger.
Stop being lazy.

>not wanting to cum inside hyper futa mabel

Great going, prognigger.

You're paying $1000 to run a library of games that spans decades and to have a machine that's truly yours. If you build a PC and only play games released in the last two years, you're doing it wrong.

Besides, if you buy your own machine, you get to choose the parts and ensure the construction is up to your standard. Not to mention you save $150 compared to that Syber bullshit.

This. If you're going to do it wait till at least Q3 2017 to see how AMD's new APU's perform, as well as their Zen.
Hopefully AMD embracing open source will make SteamOS somewhat useful.

Hey, fuck you. Some of us are really clumsy. I don't fuck up anymore but I have gone broken a mobo and CPU before. Only took one time before I learned for good.

It looks like a console made for consolefags.

and how exactly is buying a 100€ laptop retarded?

What does this even mean?

You realise you can bend the pins back straight using something like butter knife. If the pins gets broken off then it is rendered useless.

do you have gayming glasses? gayming clothes? gayming headset and a keyboard?
check those and kill self

An Alienware alpha can run 6000 games KEK.

600,000

And OP is a consolefag not a bright one so no surprise here.

How can you not put it together yourself? The shit's as easy as Snap-Together models. Or those pre-fab lego sets with instructions built in. Making sure all of the components are compatible is far more difficult, and even that's piss easy since most sites have compatibility checks.

I fucked up like that back when I was like, 10 years old. And yeah, I just bent the pin back with a needle nosed pliers and slapped that fucker into the socket. Worked like a charm.

I ve seen countless times people getting the Case cables (Power buttons, audio jacks, USB ports etc) all messed up and then wondering why it won't turn on.
People using the fan controller boards wrong.
People destroying sata cables trying to make them fit upside down or pulling them
Ram sticks only halfway in
Loose Fans and excess thermal paste in the board.
PCI cards that don't align with the case and are bent slightly upward, eventually breaking the port.
Motherboards shorting with the case etc.

the only way they would ever be worth it is if by some miracle, Steam develop or advance something like WineHQ successfully and make it easy to use.

Does Mark have one?

Or

Hmm I don't know OP. What a difficult fucking choice. Maybe I should consider a gun to my temple to help me in this conundrum, I recommend you try it too.

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what's a good site for mabel porn?

better to build a PC or do something from CyberPowerPC or iBuyPower if you're a lazy shit

There are a few models that are kinda neat if you really don't wanna bother building it and want something small or some that have shit you can't normally buy afaik (like a mobo that supports laptop GPUs which can help in some miniITX builds)

But overall you're better off building it yourself.

You "can" build a pc yourself, but you can also purchase a service for someone build it for you. This is the best option imo. You purchase the parts, and ask them to assemble it for you (for a small fee, which is very generous / not expensive). We're talking 40-60usd here, which should be very small fee.

PC parts see an increase BECAUSE of gamers you idiot.

Who do you think needs a Nvidia GPU or high end Intel CPU? Mostly gamers.

To clarify: the only reason to buy a PC is if you're a gamer. PCs nowadays are mostly bought by gamers and a few professionals.

The Steam box is actually worse than a Chromebook in every way. I have no idea who thought it was a good idea.

I personally like the idea of having a smaller PC to keep in the living room, mostly because I have no fucking clue how to build a PC and make it smaller than normal case size.

Apart from that there's not many reasons why you would.

You guys got any tips on building a PC with a very small case? I've got a few friends that work with metal, so coming across a small case isn't a huge deal

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I guess that's why they call it the Cleveland Steamer

I don't have it readily available but is it natural that my poop is solid, dry dirt brown, full of corn, random white spots, smells like rotten puke, comes out every little now and then with some greenish, longer than my rectum (if i shit standing up i can probably pass it off as a tail) and feels very rough/coarse?

Look for mini/micro cases. A buddy of mine built a solid gaming pc thats about two gamecubes tall and two and half gamecubes wide. You can also use a shit tier laptop and use steams in home streaming function to play your games in the living room.

so a gamecube then?

I'd like to know this as well.

Have you tried not sitting down for extended periods of time, exercising, and drinking plenty of water and fiber?

I spend my time sitting on the computer, i don't exercise at all, i'm always dehydrated and i actually eat very well so yes lots of fiber

Lord no, Steam Machines aren't worth it. There's some that can run Windows but all the rest run SteamOS which is a fucking Debian fork, they're not made to play video games outside of the few native Linux games and whatever Valve's ported to Linux themselves. Not to mention they're all severely pricey for their specs, you'd pay less money and put in marginally more effort for way higher specs just by building your own. Not to mention it would actually be able to play video games.

What about the Syber Vapor series? I just really love that case. Plus you can fit a Titan into these things.

$500 model seems fairly okay for its price-point but you'd still get more bang for your buck making your own, case looks pretty good but you could probably find something similar for a standard desktop

Note that I'm half-remembering from PCPartPicker but you can still definitely build something better for that price

Is the entry cpu a good cpu?

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The case isn't a bad model. I've heard there selling a bare bones model for about $250. I think it includes your basic components and then you can just add everything else in.

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Is doesn't you swine

Aren't they releasing a portable Steam Machine this November that uses an AMD Jaguar APU? That might be cool, aside from the shitty AMD APU when they could use any of the superior Atom Bay Trails available

Honestly I'd rather get the entry model of a Syber Vapor. Fully upgradeable. It's the same build as the Alpha. If you upgrade to a higher build you'll need a cooler and a better fan. It can be pretty loud. But it performs like a beast.

Please go desktopfag

All in All laptops are shit for gaming. There keyboards suck. Strategy games probably are best for laptops but that's about it.