What do you do to help degenerates?

A bullet to the face helps wonders

That's so cool, user.

I don't agree.

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mate Holla Forums hasn't even existed for four years

You are leading yourself down the common path of behavioral addiction and dependency. The way to break that dependency is the same for all dependencies, whether it be cigs, alcohol*, soda/candy/refined carbs, rich unhealthy foods, or in your case ever more abstracted and arousing forms of pornography and masturbation. You exercise your discipline and willpower muscle and you stop, don't think you can just decrease how much you do it because that always leads to full relapse or no change at all. Just stop now. Realize that the reason you've led yourself down this path is because jackin off all the time is an easily manipulated trigger for the dopamine release system. You're the rat in the cage and your dick is that big red button. The problem is we as humans have systems built into the lowest instinctual levels of our brains to push us toward novelty, to experiment and try new things. This means that the hot shit you tugged your horn to last month is tripping a smaller and smaller dump of those neurotransmitters you love so much. Over time you're led down the path of ever more specialized and abstracted forms of degeneracy until you find yourself in your very position, finding real life women increasingly divorced from your concept of eroticism. That is unless you use your capacity for higher thought to intervene and break the cycle. All addicts whether a smack junkie on the verge of death or a kid with a sweet tooth at their core are people who are ignoring the long term consequences they know they'll have to eventually face in favor of smashing that motherfucking red button right now. And the more you do it the stronger that reward circuit gets. The more you starve the circuit the more it shrinks until it eventually will almost disappear. The first step is cutting out porn entirely, because that alone will fix your libido problems, but ultimately you want to cut back the tuggin as much as you can manage so you'll have time to develop other useful reward pathways other than the one associated with blowing your load. If you can make it a week, you're probably out of the woods. Just concentrate on staying away from that shit for a week and see where you are and how you feel, then move on from there.

As for OP, what said. Remember that old saying "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink."? People don't say that shit for no reason. True change can only come from within. External pressures can help, but ultimately if the person in question isn't interested or doesn't have skin in the game, they're not going to give a fuck. The only real way is through large scale passive community pressure, but even that only works to a certain extent because everyone is born different, with different capacities for growth and different ingrained dispositions. Some people will never fit in properly or never change. Why do you think exile was used in ancient societies? Hint: Its purpose wasn't just as a vindictive punishment. It was equally motivated by community coherency and synergy

Cut down on your estrogen intake (lower the amount of dairy you eat and stop using shampoo), increase your protein and testosterone intake (eggs are a good way to do both) and reduce how much you masturbate.
Now, I'm not saying "go full nofap", but you do want to cool down a bit. If you do it more than 5 times a week then consider making it once or twice a week.

When I meet a person and I'm one-on-one with them, if they tell me they're gay then I will always just simply reply "You were sexually abused as a child."

They rarely get upset. About half will open up and you should listen, because very few people will listen to them talk about being sexually abused, and even fewer will let them just *think* the thought that their homosexuality is linked to it. Another third will just sort of shrug it off and kind of act like you didn't say that, but you can tell that a seed has been planted. Redpill plus compassion goes a long way.

Same goes for trannies and sluts. Just ask them to think about weird sexual things that happened to them as children, and suddenly they'll start drudging stuff up that they've never looked at from this perspective. The brainwashing is powerful.

I don't know what to Holla Forums, I've come to the conclusion that everything in life is just so insignificant and unimportant. The only thing that makes any sense to me is living in the present.

No one can help me at this point, I feel so alone, but at the same time I feel like it doesn't matter and with it comes a kind of freedom, which is opening me up to nihilism.

I may be falling into degeneracy here.
Might have something to do with redpill overdose

Also the best you can do to help degenerates is talk to them, if they don't understand or don't want to listen, move on. What the fuck would I know though.

I have a few degenerate siblings and I try to sway them from their degeneracy by introducing them to new hobbies and getting them to socialize with people in social settings more. If you want to craft a better world, start at home.

Cut your masturbation habits to about 1-2 times a week. Start by doing it once every other day, then once every 3 days. The goal is to drop it completely, but it's best to ween yourself off of it to reduce the risk of relapse. Stopping cold turkey maximizes the chance of relapse, but it's possible to stop this way if you keep yourself busy and tire yourself out at the end of the day. I suggest taking up metalworking or engineering. Working on old cars/machinery is a great way to keep yourself distracted from the sins of flesh.

I really must urge this person to judge for themselves on the available research. It would seem rather counterintuitive that milk proteins are invariably (with the exception of hydrolyzed salmon protein- good luck with procuring and ingesting that) show to be the best for lean mass gains.

That's pretty strange.

I think that when you can "tell" that a seed has been planted, you might just be mistaking yourself. I would not be surprised if they're simply shrugging you off for being wrong and/or rude.

I mean, surely, you must understand how tactless it is to bring up sexual abuse out of the blue?

I appreciate that you intend to be compassionate, though.

I might be talking out of my ass, but I think you should get engaged in your community so you can get some much needed social contact.

That's wonderful, user. What hobbies are you introducing them to?

Metalworking involves chemicals, though, and is less than easily accessible. Woodworking (heh) might be a better suggestion. I mean, hell, all you need is a tough knife and a stick from the forest, more or less.

sometimes a week isn't enough… I'm coming at this from a place of drug and alcohol addiction which I've gotten a hold on - 1.5 years clean and happy - and that seemed easier at the start than quitting porn and the tugging. Most I've lasted is 8 days when I felt like an absolute beast of a man and I mean that in the best possible sense. I had energy, I could sleep for 4h and wake up ready to GO, my muscles seemed to grow bigger even sticking with the same weights as before, I could talk to people without thinking what I'm going to say, which is very different from my usual "stand in the corner with hands down pants and stare at ceiling" ways, normal women excited me and I had an irresistible urge to actually talk to them, to go outside, to DO something instead of just existing.

Then I relapsed and wound up watching the sickest shit I could possibly find. The next day I could hardly look at myself in the mirror, it felt like something in my brain had snapped and changed my entire frame of mind. All because of a few seconds of ecstasy…

BUT GODDAMMIT, I WANT TO FEEL LIKE A BEAST AGAIN!!!

online - i try to do more than just telling them to kill themselves
irl - people generally think i'm the best and want to be like me, so i just act right, maybe with a slight lean towards the better side in order to counteract other peoples' bad. typically whenever i call out degeneracy it goes well, especially when the negative societal implications are obvious

you can eventually lose the desire to masturbate as long as you keep up the streak. just remember that it isnt even that good and it's never even remotely worth it. the only time i really get urges anymore is after i have a wet dream, but i'm trying to quit having those

It's good if you have the time, patience and money, there's only so much you can do without those, I myself prefer to work on old BMW's, but it takes a fair bit of time, will and money to get shit done, but it is satisfying, also weld shit for a living but I only do that for money

Don't have much to go by, have a couple of close friends, but the more time I spend with them I feel more distant funny enough, there's only one I care about anyway.

Also tried to get into "car meets" and I've met a few people that are cool, majority are fucking junkies and even when there's a meet, there's little socialization outside of their established circles.

Believe me, I've had the social contact, but I don't feel it's enough, its so spread out, sometimes I don't even feel its worth the effort of going out

I was more thinking something along the lines of sports or helping out the community in some way. Maybe a soup kitchen. Personally, I help out in a not-for-profit sports club. Even something like a sowing club could be nice. Doesn't matter if you're a man or a woman, you still need nice clothes, and chances are that you have some stuff that doesn't fit too well.

yeah relapses are bad. when i would have them it would make me feel like a hypocrite or something. how can i act noble and be truly disciplined when i do something so silly as to masturbate? like i was really only just larping as an ubermensch and not actually something to be taken seriously. but you get over and forget about it pretty quick

I've gone cold turkey for almost a year now. I can safely say that it took me much longer than a week to break the cycle, and in some respects, you are never completely out of the woods. There is always the temptation, it never goes away. but user is right, that neuro-pathway will shrink over time and it does get easier.
I'm much more purpose driven now. I can think much more clearly. A sense of control over your own actions is restored.

We can't really help them at this point, not until we're in a position to steer society into whatever pathway we wish. I drop redpills here and there when I can but that's hardly enough, a more global solution is required. Ideally a worldwide organization of Holla Forumsacks spiritually healing those who have fallen to the kike degeneracy. The worst offenders will need to be purged though, no trace of their degenerate minds must remain.

I fap about once a week at most but I still don't really feel like fucking women. Strangely enough I long for a meaningful relationship with a lovely woman but this is a virtually unattainable in the current climate. I simply use it to fuel my anger against (((those))) who stole my calm, dream life from me before I even had a chance to experience it.

Something for you, good sir.

At best, we can help individual people one by one, or pray for those unlucky few who will wake up and finally take the red pill all on their own.

WTF is this bullshit?
This is tinfoil hat level idiocy

That's something I've been doing, developing personal relationships for as long as it's necessary to plant the redpill and leave it alone once it's mature enough to sprout on its own. There are far too many whites who have fallen to degeneracy in one way or another for us to form a deep connection with every single one.

Just to the QTDDTOT thread

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I can vouch for this feeling, you watch so much porn and see women do so much degenerate shit and start to want that in real sex that normal relationships sound boring. Not to mention my friends use me as a make-shift therapist for when they have problems with their girlfriends so I know of all the problems living with women can produce.

The thing is, if my friends knew how to treat a woman they wouldn't be having these problems but being a neet who never met a girl worth his time they'd never listen to me.

>>>/cuckchan/
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>>>/4chan/

You do have to judge the context, but if it's a one off meeting at some stupid party, you'd be surprised what people are willing to talk about. I think some of it does come down to few people are good at listening. And if they're gay they're probably drunk already.

I've been a lot of places, everywhere people want someone to listen to them. Just use your judgment, once you get people talking about themselves you can slip the redpills in accordingly without having to filter yourself at all. You can point out how public school teachers get practically nothing for getting caught fucking their students, and then ask why this is permitted to occur across the country?

Part of it is also vanity, let people indulge their morbid curiosity to "ironically" wonder whether they were a butterfly child all along. When I get to talking to people, I can really hoe a row.

Um. Wow, thanks. I've got a few of these now.

To be honest, I really think Holla Forums will have to hit the streets and go straight up missionary. People haven't heard anything real for so long. Trump is just a herald of our collective Kek consciousness.

Before we can get to that though, we need to do some serious soul-searching here. It has been shown to me by Kek that we will succeed if we can manifest virtue through our memes. That means cutting out whatever limits you, letting your self die and reuniting/remembering that what you are has always been and always will be. Understand that, you will understand what your life is meant for. it's to bring to justice the people who made us this way

Remember when you were a child and the world was fresh and beautiful? Remember when you could be interested by absolutely anything? Remember when you were full of wonder and ideas and questions?

That's what you've regained by "desensitizing" yourself to the sexual jew. What the fuck are you complaining about?

To be clear, by "sexual jew" I mean roasties. Life is better without them in it. They are a bear trap baited with sex. You're just eating food you found outside the trap so the world will call you a LOSER.

Why won't you…

…just go back?

Stop making low effort thread you faggot, there is already a general question thread here.

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Listen here, faggot. I'm nearing the end of my 4th decade of life. I've alternated between masturbating daily to not masturbating for months. (AMT I fap maybe 1-2 times a week, tops)

And at no point did anything remotely similar to the fairy tales above happen. My attraction to women didn't drop when I fapped. I didn't feel like a "beast" when I didn't - that's just faggots confusing pent-up frustration with energy, but that shit ain't healthy for you either.

Spending the entire day doing nothing but fapping is bullshit.
Completely not fapping thinking it will somehow make you "better" is cult-level bullshit that only brain-dead morons could believe.

TLDR - you are stupid faggot giving out horrible advice

Almost 50 years old and you think this thread is worth responding to or bumping?

Before redpilling, everyone here was a degenerate of some level.
Helping degenerates means waking them up, reforming them, making them see the truth.

This is what this whole thing is all about: redpilling degenerates, then they join our ranks, we grow in number, we redpill even more people, the cycle continue, increasing in size.

try telling yourself that the woman on the screen is only a picture, and that you cannot reproduce with a picture
also tell yourself that you cannot reproduce with a any butthole, or with any breast, or with any mouth

I like this idea. He's the herald of our coming. Perhaps he is Zarathustra. :^)

also tell yourself that how often, strongly, and how soon they climax has nothing to do with their fertility at all; you can reproduce with a woman who can't have one at all just as good as you can with one who can

Degenerates often fall outside of typical society, and from outside the normiesphere you can really see what society is like, they are some of the easiest people to redpill and with nothing to lose, combined with some motivation/pride, they can build themselves up into decent people and then they owe their new gained status on their ideology, which causes loyalty.

I owe a lot of my recent success to right-wing propaganda, just watching something that instilled pride in me after years of leftist propaganda full of guilt and shame was extremely relieving.

Listen here, faggot. I'm nearing the end of my 4th decade of life. I've alternated between taking drugs daily to not taking drugs for months. (AMT I take drugs maybe 1-2 times a week, tops)
And at no point did anything remotely similar to the fairy tales above happen. My positive attitude towards life didn't decrease when I took drugs. I didn't feel like a "beast" when I didn't - that's just junkies confusing pent-up frustration with energy, but that shit ain't healthy for you either.
Spending the entire day doing nothing but taking drugs is bullshit.
Completely not not taking drugs thinking it will somehow make you "better" is cult-level bullshit that only brain-dead morons could believe.
TLDR - you are stupid faggot giving out horrible advice

congrats on not having an addictive personality, but you have to realise that you sound like an idiot

If I take drugs I make it a point to do something productive. In work out, run, read, something like that.