Punisher Thread

Netflix Series has dropped. This acts as a new thread, and also as a notification that it's released. I'll post my thoughts as I watch this shit.

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It's shit

Episode 1: A lot of effort goes into humanizing Frank rather than showing him actually being a badass. i have no problem with this either way, but they're going much more "PTSD" than "Man on a Mission" vibe happening. He stops a crime only because he was directly informed it would happen. So far, not very "Punishery"

Two cops are shown to be reluctant partners and have their case shut down buy their boss. Clearly there is at least one person being bribed here. Cop apparently shouldn't be taking the case.

Episode 2:
>Micro reveals himself to Frank, Frank freaks out and immediately asks two other people if they know who he is and refuses to talk to anyone except his support group that he apparently established after the events of Daredevil Season 2
Oh jesus christ this is going to be a shit show

Episode 2 continued:
Frank discovers His family died because of a CIA hit out on him, completely ruining the only significant portion of his backstory
On the other hand, Frank discovers everything about Micro like the Chad he is and ruins any power he has over him, reasserting his dominance.

Episode 3:
Frank Bonds with his buddy over systematic torture. Meanwhile, whey try an prove what a badass Frank is in flashbacks, but flashbacks will never compare to his mythological figure from before where he killed 100s of chinks on his own and survived alone. The best thing they could have done was to have never mentioned it ever, because it will never compare.

Episode 4: We finally get some mild Punishering from Frank as he worries about the logistics of his war on crime.

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Episode 5: Frank fights in a fucking forest. I don't know what else to say here. This show is barely a Punisher show at all.

That should have been obvious the moment they changed his origin story from a mob hit gone wrong to a retarded Jason Bourne government conspiracy/coverup.

How difficult is it for these Hollywood fucks to learn. Just. Do. The. Comic

Netflix does it again!

Episode 7: >Punisher is enjoyable because he kills bad men with no remorse

They don't have the guts.

Episode 8: Frank the Cuckmaster
Also, a character that was apparently important dies, but no one gives a shit because they never had any interaction with Frank whatsoever.

So lay it on me straight, OP. Is there a hallway fight?

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Here's why you faggots.

Episode 9: Homegrown terrorist attacks, completely derailing the actual plot of the show and ends up being the most "Punisher" episode as Frank decides to hunt him down and kill him. Frank still hasn't killed anyone outside of the first episode.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

No, Disney is dropping Netflix because they want a piece of that streaming service. The Netflix shows' "quality" is a non-factor.

White People are evil, goyim! White racists are scum!

Funny how they don't keep this shit relegated to Luke Cage, but they spread it in everything. This show is fucking garbage.

Are they white? Is this show literally more anti-white than Jessica Jones?

Episode 10: Frank finally gets to confront a genuine criminal endangering innocent lives and doesn't fucking kill him

Let me guess, this criminal isn't white so he needs to be spared, unlike the evil Christian Neo-Nazi terrorist.

Iron Fist wasn't like that. For all that show's genuine flaws, it wasn't afraid to have a white man discipline some minorities for acting in disrespectful way to martial arts. Its part of the reason reviewers shat on it though that doesn't mean the show was actually good.

Iron Fist got trashed by the media because it had a white protagonist and he wasn't whipping himself for being white, that's why they had Luke Cage chastise him for being a cracka. Marvel's Netflix stuff is so pozzed it's insane

Episode 11: Frank finally suits up with his skull vest and kills some fuckers. However for the second time in the show, the bad guys are coming to him, and he isn't hunting them. Also, as weird as a complaint as this may be, Frank is way too angry in this. In the comics he's a cold calculating son of a bitch, but during the fight he's constantly yelling the bad guy's name in anger.

Iron Fist got trashed because it was fucking awful. As much as we bitch about Marvel-Netflix shows, we say they bad usually because of how they depart from the comics. Even while watching Punisher right now, I don't think the show is actually bad at all. The problem is that it's a terrible Punisher story. People that have never read a Punisher comic will probably enjoy this a lot, but as someone who wanted a Punisher story this is awful.

you're a fag

You're a faggot who isn't even aware that this show has a whole 2 episodes with pro-2nd amendment subtext

It's sort of like consensus cracking. You do something "harmless" to get people used to the idea, then you do a bit more. First blacks were made fun of on TV. Then they were equal. Now they get the white woman and are made out to be down on their luck, or inteligent- never dumb or brutish.
When you see shit like Legends get a muslim co-hort who's seen praying- but then she responds
It's to pave the way for future shows that muslim-wash programs.


That, and Disney, Marvel, and Netflix have done far worse with other shows and media in general. They've done so much harm they shouldn't be supported even when they do something good (since it'll fuel the bad).
I'd be surprised if no one here pirated it.

Episode 12: Frank fucking works with the cops to get people arrested. What the fuck.
He also does some soul searching and realizes that he needs a mission to live, so maybe he'll finally actually be the Punisher now.

You need to open your fucking door and talk a walk outside, friendo.

We don't all live in nice gated communities like you, pal. Walking outside could get him killed by a minority depending on where he lives.

Episode 13
THE SHOW ENDS WITH FRANK GETTING THERAPY
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? HE DOESN'T BECOMES THE PUNISHER, THE SHOW LITERALLY ENDS WITH HIM AT THE SUPPORT GROUP FOR VETERANS. IT FUCKING ENDS WITH HIM TRYING TO READJUST AND LIVE A NORMAL LIFE.

I AM BEYOND MAD. I AM BEYOND ANGER. WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK WAS THIS SHIT? HOW FUCKING DARE YOU CALL THIS A PUNISHER SHOW? THIS WASN'T ANYWHERE CLOSE. WHAT THE FUCK.

Oh wow, pro-second amendment! No way! That's based, totally justifies anti-white sentiment!

For whatever reason, Marevel is just unable to make live action Punisher and Ghost Rider work.

They should just make a Deathwish style film or series, but a little bit more refined and higher scale. Take some cues from John Wick on how to do action, but make it with a bit more grit. Then toss in some stakeout scenes, Frank hatching up a plan, tracking targets, gear up sequences, and some gunporn. Just make Frank a force of nature.
Instead it's always bottom of the barrel cliche action, procedural cop-show style action and budget, cliche internal torment, and "heartwarming" message.

Kill yourself, you fucking cuck.

The Punisher movie from 2004 or so was a solid Punisher movie. Sure it wasn't amazing, but it was enjoyable throughout and was certainly better than this fucking shit that we got.

Considering the earlier post mention "home grown terror" am I correct in assuming that Elmer Fudd is an ebil alt-right Nazi?

It's ok (((user))) we believe you

What the absolute fuck.

Look, I don't even care about making Frank's family dead because of government. I don't care for the government, Punisher going around shooting niggers, pedophiles, fatso cops and CIA/Mossad faggots would be totally fine by me.

BUT WHERE THE FUCK IS THE KILLING??? WHY THIS GAY DRAMA SHIT???

That's like the one thing a Punisher show should have and they fucked that up.

Because TV writers are bottom of the barrel faggots who think whiny angsting is what people want to watch.

WHAAAAAAA
How can you miss the point of PUNISHER that bad?!?

I should have known why the RT score was so high despite the past shootings. These fuckers shit on the Orville because they are being payed by CBS to shill Star Trek Discovery.

They sure don't know what to do with Punisher both in comics and series.

I'm sad because I loved Marvel before all this shitty madness.

How the fuck is it possible to not understand the entire premise of a series this bad?

No, the home grown terrorist is a different guy who's quite clearly portrayed as unhinged as shit.

Fun fact: Every single bad guy Frank kills in this show comes to him. He never actively goes out to kill anyone in the entire show. Except for the final episode where he goes to have a final showdown with the big bad and then he spares his life

Here's probably the most succinct way to complain about the show. Webm is the only scene in the whole show that actually plays out like how a Punisher fight scene should play out, and it's the bad guy instead of Frank.

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What's the black guy doing in this meeting?

looks like shit, and the actor looks like he should rather be sucking cock in a train station toilet

Meanwhile in Punisher Warzone: The Punisher does one-man ethnic cleansing in the streets.

Why was that movie considered shit again?

It's a meetup for veterans.

Because believe it or not, there are factors to how good a movie is aside from if minorities get killed in it.

I love your country.

People get killed in it, EVERYONE.
That's why I think it's good, it's a movie about a guy who basically kills everyone. No agenda. No anti-gun message in a movie that friggin celebrates guns.
Within the movie universe, those things don't belong.

I liked it because it had ray stevenson and he explodes a guys head with a single punch.

What?
Can you at least try to make sense?

This is fucking Holla Forums, I could say anything and it would make more sense than most threads or most posts here, so try at least to activate those dead brain cells of yours.

Contrast that with "Netflix presents: The Punisher" where in the first episode Frank reluctantly kills like 30 white people to save the life of some spic who gave him a sandwich.

Hahahahaha, how he went from Chad-Vigilante to Soy Latte Virgin with Impotent Rage

None of that happened. They just decided to make a shitty show from the starting gate.

Shit, I must have missed the story arc in the comics where the main character in the "The Punisher" was an independent mudslime woman whose good at everything she does and don't need no man.

You're a retard if you think absolutely everything is political like that. The only thing that even identifies her as an immigrant at all is the fact that her parents have thick accents. They make no mention of her country or race the whole fucking show, but apparently you're retarded enough to think that the existence of non-white people is political. The only actually political things the show does is be pro-second amendment, and portray even batshit insane veterans as sympathetic.

wew lad. I've only watched up until episode 3 and they've mentioned she was Persian and spoke farsi at least half a dozen times already I guess you don't pay much attention, her boss also tell her any other agent would've been fired for all the shits she's pulled but she "checks all the boxs" to which she calls him a racist sexist bigot.
It's political because she's a literal perfect Mary Sue feminist arch-type who makes quips about racist and sexist white men over perfectly reasonable statements.

No, she's the standard "reasonable authority figure" that every single story like this has. One person inside the system that wants to see justice done and will work along side the protagonist. She doesn't act that way because of some fucking feminist agenda, it's because that's the way these stories always go. Her partner and her direct boss also act basically the same, but you aren't complaining about they because they're fucking normal white dudes. And even then, she's the worst of all of them. Her chasing Castle down is clearly portrayed as not healthy, and gets a lot of agents killed because oh her.

I don't have any problem with people complaining about shoehorning stupid leftist bullshit into a story as long as it actually fucking happens. But you fucking retards complain about it in EVERYTHING, doesn't matter how reasonable the portrayal is of the character. It's as equally infuriating as Tumblr bitching about any thing because of it having white people, and you don't see what a fucking retard you look like.

I don't remember them getting into high speed muscle car chases with the Punisher by themselves without any backup.
Actually her boss is also Persian and her partner Stein is clearly a jew, but that's irrelevant as neither of them pull off any ridiculous feats the way she does and her partner is clearly flawed and makes mistakes (which she corrects for him).

What fucking "impressive feats" are you talking about that she does? Get fucking wrecked when Micro drives a van into because she acts like a retard going after Frank alone? Fucks up everything by accidentally telling the bad guy her secret plan that had already gotten half a dozen cops killed along with her partner? Do you think the way she goes basically comatose for an episode and a half because of emotional trauma was badass? The only impressive thing she does the whole show is to blackmail the CIA director into making all the shit public, and to somehow get them to scrub Frank's criminal record because they needed an happy ending, no matter how much of an asspull it was.

No. No one can be stupid enough to write that

In case anyone doesn't believe me, here you go.

And I actually had hope for this show too. With the trailer, the music choice, the tone, I thought maybe for once they knew what the hell a Punisher show should be.

Why did I give them the benefit of the doubt. I'm not even angry. I'm just disappointed.

Step 1: look for something to ruin adapt into a tv show
Step 2: DO NOT read or watch any of the source material
Step 3: slap logo onto it
Step 4: trainwreck!!!

She is very clearly identified as a second generation immigrant. Even gives a tiny monologue about it before some fan service showcasing her non-existent ass.

Commentary on U.S. foreign policy is so goddamn blatant I felt for moment that Bush was still in office. Micro is an obvious nod to Snowden & Manning.

You have to be a sub-70 IQ manchild to give a shit about that egelord

Aw shit, the christfags are here.

It's not. Some thought it was shit because Punisher made a mistake of killing an undercover-cop in the story and that it went against the ethos of the Punisher. But seriously, it's a cartoony and fun Punisher-movie.

Still like the 2004 one better though. Marvel-Death Wish movie basically.


I didn't get that either, he spared him even though the spic stole the money aswell. He was a criminal but he spared him. Why?


I'm letdown by the series. There's some good moments but way too much whining from Frank and about relationships, feelings and whatnot. I though he was past that? He was the goddam Punisher and the whole series feels like everything they tell about before what happened on the show, is more awesome than the actual show. Crockett and Tubbs from Miami Vice killed more bad guys than the Punisher. Fucking Magnum PI is more of a badass than dumbfuck nu-punisher.

for me the problem with that scene was they painted the spic as an idiot with no blood on his hands manipulated into doing something stupid and then wasted it by trying to further humanize frank. they had the perfect opportunity to have frank coming to the realization that criminals will always pray on the innocent so he takes the cash for himself to fund his mission to remove shitbag.

So lemme ask, who was this show made for?
SJW snowflakes won't like him because he is a NRA hwite people powerfantasy and the intended audience won't like it because of the shit pointed out in this thread. Who are gonna like it?

To be fair, Frank isn't the full on Punisher in that point of that show and apparently never will be according to the ending and depending on which run of the comics you read, he'd be plenty willing to to let him go. It's very clear that that was probably the only criminal activity that man had ever engaged in, hadn't hurt anyone, and was never going to do it ever again.

Normalfags that've never read the comic. I want to clarify that despite how much I despise this show, it's actually still a decent-pretty good show. If it were stripped of any references to the Marvel Universe, changed the name of the main character, and had the title changed to something like, "Veteran's Day," I probably would have like this a good bit. So if there are people that try and watch this and are completely unaware that the Punisher is supposed to act opposite of almost everything that he does in this show, I bet they'd have a fun time.

So the show is 1000% pozzed then?

You're genuinely a stupid person. You're probably not white.

He didn't kill the spic because that would be racist. You think it's a fucking coincidence that all the villains are ebil white raycists?

The show is literally propaganda, that's all it is.

nah, he spared him because he was a good kid that got mixed up with the wrong crowd and ended up almost getting killed for it by the assholes that suckered him into it. plus he was the only guy on the construction crew that showed Frank any kindness while he worked at the construction site. yeah, Frank is a cold blooded killer that shows no mercy to criminal scum but he's not a mindless killer with zero compassion or empathy for everyone around him. fucking hell. not to mention he went back and killed the mafia scumbags who were a bigger priority than some punk kid that probably won't ever do anything that stupid or reckless ever again.

Most people on this site give no shit about the actual context. They see someone who isn't white and they go into a blind retarded rage and complain it's all jewish propoganda.

that's mainly the fuckin' Holla Forumstards

Doesn't change the fact that you can't go to any board on this site without 70% of the posts being them complaining about that shit.

I can say with complete certainty that neither of you are white.

And yet at the end of the day, we're the ones trying to actually discuss the pros and cons of the show this thread is about, while all you can do whine about how people aren't the correct race. You might as well be a fucking tumblrkin from how identical your arguments are.

.go fuck yourself faggot.

>>>/soc/

>>>/my/

I literally have no idea what you are trying to say right now…

heh, you know, that used to be how we used to show that we're not bullshitting about who we were almost a decade ago. anons would take a pic with writing on their hand or arm while blocking their face to show they were legit who they say they are. but a guess you're either too new to know that or you're too stupid to realize we didn't do it unless it's absolutely necessary.
I didn't quite appreciate having my fucking race called into question out of the blue like that by some faggot with a superiority complex and a holier-than-thou attitude just because I called his fucking judgement into question over a Holla Forums related show, now can everyone stop fucking derailing this thread with the race baiting bullshit and either talk about the show or GTFO?!

closest any white character came to being a racist was wolf when he called maduneconea out as a diversity hire but given the context of the scene he had a point. also that "white" colonel everyone lost their shit over for being pegged by a niggress is obviously a jew.

Problem is I think only 4 anons actually watched it.

He'll, the home grown veteran terrorist that killed more people than frank does is portrayed as incredibly sympathetic. And Russo is a nice enough guy that you aren't sure he's even a bad guy until he straight up murders the chick's partner. The only guy who's genuinely bad in the whole show is the CIA spook.

Without timestamp, you double nigger?
I'm not counting exif data.

Here let me move these closer so you can actually grab them.

Well this threads gone to shit. Just like the show in the first ten minutes.

It's time to stop posting commie.

So maybe this site isn't for you and you should fuck off somewhere else.
Sitting around and kvetching about how Holla Forums is full of antisemitism and racism isn't going to suddenly make everyone else sympathize with you.
If anything it just makes others dig in their heels to spite your whiny ass.

I got a couple episodes in. So far, I'm not liking that we only get a couple minutes of Punisher administering Punisherings to scumbags per episodes. When they told us it was a Punisher series, I wasn't expecting yet another cop/legal drama with drawn out conversations between characters I don't give a single fuck about.

I should overreact or do a joke, but I just feel so tired I don't care anymore.

And I guess we couldn't make our own comics with our own stories because some SJW would send you to jail or ruin your life if you say something they disagree with you.

I'm still trying to watch this, but I'm having trouble maintaining even minimal interest.

Why the hell do they make a series about the Punisher with nothing about the Punisher? Seriously, why would they hint something relatively interesting in Daredevil if they will end just cucking Frank?

What I really hate is how the character moments are some good shit, but almost the entire show is made up of people talking about their feelings.

But this is what i also don't get, if he's not full on Punisher, why is he a well known commodity in New York to the point of everyone knows him and he strikes fear in every bad guy around? It's shit writing. They can't have him be this legendary nemesis of criminals and alllude to all his killings but still on the other hand claim he's not full-on Punisher. Qiuet frankly, the show would've been better if they just showed him killing of all those criminals they were talking about instead of this convoluted conspiracy-plot made by shitty writers.

And they really sold the show as badass with that first trailer, but instead all we get is a fucking boring cocktease.

At first I had an issue with the show because it was doing the same "origin story" they've done for all of the shows so far. But then the show ends with him deciding to not be the Punisher anymore, so I don't know what the fuck the point of it was.

This is a Punisher show that's embarrassed it has to be a Punisher show, it's just sad.

The same could be said for all their Netflix shit

So this is basically young Bruce Wayne gets therapy, decides the whole Batman thing is ridiculous, and doesn't bother?
Wow, these people really hate comics, don't they?

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Because these SJW cucks hate comics, they think The Punisher is a dumb character who is the epitome of toxic masculinity. That's why the show is all about Frank learning to stop being the Punisher. And when he does finally do some punishing it's so that he can champion the virtues of every minority in NYC.

What they really wanted to make was a show about their dumb middle eastern super cop Mary Sue. You can practically feel the writers and director trying to fight to get back to her because she's the real star of the show. The love triangle bullshit feels like it's straight out of a retarded CW show.

The Punisher is so hard to fuck up. It truly is amazing that they completely failed to make an even passably entertaining show out of the concept.

The gunfights are only there so that they can be put into the trailer.

They even fucked up those. He doesn't act like the Punisher even in fights. He's running around screaming "RUUSSOOOOOO!" and generally trying way too hard to win the fight. I wouldn't have minded that in the actual fight against Russo, but against mooks, the Punisher is supposed to be cold as ice. He doesn't even fucking stumble and mooks can't even touch him. Like I said in , that's exactly how the Punisher is supposed to act. He doesn't even tactically move around corners or stick to the shadows because he doesn't even need to. He's just that badass. He knows that they aren't going to spot him anyways, because he already knows exactly where everyone is.

I don't necessarily mind the idea that Frank is losing his cool during a fight or being a little more lithe than usual, having him get caught off guard for once or being a bit less of a force of nature could make for interesting action scenes. But the fact that the show seems to only include them out of obligation seems to chap my ass more than anything.

Even when he does get hurt in fights against mooks, he never chimps out and screams. He just tries to collect himself and figure out the best way to readjust to kill a man. But in this show he chimps out into a bloody rage

And yet Hollywood have done it EVERY. SINGLE. TIME

Hey, the Thomas Jane punisher was pretty decent.

Not really.

The only big complain of that movie is how they changed Frank's background, but aside from that it actually felt like a fucking Punisher story.

Leah Alexader did that so probably is pozzed as shit

At least that movie wasn't afraid to reference the comics.

The episodes are as fallows.

I didn't like the background changes and I don't rate Thomas Jane as Punisher. They should have got Stallone to play Punisher. In the entire time they've made Punisher movies apparently nobody has ever once said 'You know what, Sylvester Stallone would make a pretty good Punisher'.

One, that is fucking retarded, and Two, Ivan Drago would disagree with you, he and Stallone has the same speech impediment

How so?
One's from Hell's Kitchen and one's from Sweden. How do they have the same impediment?

Because it's the kind of impediment you get from being hit in the head really fucking hard

So… Is it me or do the new comic Frank looks like the Netflix series NuFrank?

No hero is going to be white anymore, is it?

You could have crammed all of these into two to three posts, y'know? I take it you're new.
Anyways, I agree/disagree with a lot of your criticism. I didn't like how the Punisher was portrayed, I didn't like the NRA terrorist subplot which was obvious propaganda and had little to nothing to do with the main plot than to be a diversion and expand the length of the show to 13 episodes when it should have bren to, I didn't like the retcon with his family's death being a CIA plot and contradicts its own continuity. I did like the action, I thought the acting was good, the Iranian girl was annoying but more in a character-wise way than her being an obvious tolken character at least she's hot tbh, I liked the cinematography. Other than that, not much.

Lol, been ten. Not sure how I missed that.

And instead I posted them as I watched each episode. Go fuck yourself.

You mean Cloonan's run? I've seen some covers where they make him look more like the Netflix one. Marvel tends to do this with some of their characters for synergy. Personally I don't think it works. But I guess Frank is still white. Unless you don't think Sicillians are white

I'm surprised Hollywood keeps making the NRA to be evil gun nuts. They're pussies when it comes to defending gun rights. They compromise all the time and propose regulations fuck the NRA. There are better organizations that defend the 2nd ammendment.

He looks like a moor to me.

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Ofcourse fellow goyim, hes white just like us.

I fucking knew he was semitic!

I'm talking about Frank not Bernthal.

An Anti-NRA message has no place in a show about the fucking Punisher

Fuck off, faggot. You only gave opinions on moments from each episode, not a full on analysis. You could have watched the whole thing and then write your post. This isn't a story time thread.

I do mind. My idea of the Punisher is Frank from the Punisher MAX, where his idea of getting a little emotional is hitting every drinking hole criminals frequent and gunning them all down (barring one) until they give him the guy that pissed on the corpses of his family. My idea of Frank getting emotional is grabbing a woman and smashing her face against a glass panel because she was complicit in slave trade of women, or using her father's bowels to decorate the scenery.

My idea of the Punisher getting emotional is not him crying like a bitch in front of Daredevil and constantly whining about his family. How the Jews consistently fuck up such a simple concept is beyond me, but then again they are likely projecting their own neurotic issues and general mental illness onto everything they create.


The same kind people that fucked up the TV show are also the kind that fucked up the Punisher movies.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Bernthal

God damn. Every single time.

Soon the punisher will be "punishing" criminals with hugs and stern lectures about how crime is bad at this rate.

He'll be killing hwites for tweeting Pepe memes.

It'd be about fucking time.

From everything I've read so far, Mr. Reese is a better punisher despite his no-killing guideline.
Just watch Person of Interest instead even though it's not Holla Forums, anons.

Person of Interest is no better. It's just as equally pozzed, on top of being created by Jew Jew himself. It could have been fun, but they fucking ruined it.

>punisher

Punisher is terrible because it's not actually the Punisher. PoI is terrible because it's fucking shit and is unwatchable.