We'll live to see the day when you have to pirate mods.
Noah Cook
He's still getting downvoted, calm down OP.
Eli Thompson
We'll live to see the day when mod makers will implement something like Denuvo in their mods
Grayson Gutierrez
In the future we might even see companies whose sole purpose is to make mods.
just let that sink in for a moment.
Isaac Cook
The only thing I don't understand about the concept of paid mods, how the fuck is that thing supposed to work from a legal standpoint?
If you use tools that require royalties for commercial products, and yes paid mods are commercial products, you're fucked.
If you use assets that have already been made available in a free mod, you're fucked.
If the game dev or publisher doesn't allow paid mods, because it would constitute copyright infringement, and you make one nonetheless, you're fucked.
If someone claims you stole their assets, and anyone can do this because it's not like this thing of selling paid mods has any fucking quality control, you're fucked.
If someone claims you used their software to produce your paid mod without their permission and/or licensing deal, you're fucked.
I'm pretty sure other people can come up with examples why this thing is very, very, very fucking bad purely from the legal standpoint. I won't delve into the other reasons. This one should make a lot of people worry, and especially companies that are looking into this thing as a cash cow.
If it ever comes into fruition, it's going to be a very short lived nightmare.
I don't think Gabe and Todd gave this whole concept a thorough thinking.
Aiden Miller
Words cannot express how disgusted I am.
Kevin Hughes
Stop please.
Caleb Murphy
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Ryan Nelson
Haven't half of Valve's games started out as mods or small studio work? Makes sense they'd want to push it, so they'd have less work to do.
Henry Peterson
Who fuck cares Pirate the game, pirate the mods Stop crying about everything
Nathaniel Miller
OP here, I didn't use the best link in my original post. Check this out for the full discussion. There isn't just one person defending this shit: archive.is/nv0uH
Noah Jones
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Liam Bailey
JUST
Alexander Davis
FUCK
Logan Walker
ME
Oliver Cooper
UP
Kayden Powell
FAM
Logan Scott
If you really want to think about it. There's technically mods and user content that is paid for. Which they've paid people to make hats in TF2, to sell on the market. Or mods originally like Team Fortress on Quake.
Dominic Flores
Reddit is trash for plenty of reasons, but you're making a mountain out of a molehill.
Kayden Thompson
Doubles of tragic truth.
Carter Gutierrez
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Charles Russell
In the case of TF2 that would be community content absorbed into the main game that the creator's given a cut of sales for, I guess making him something of an employee.
Jaxson Diaz
What can I say? It's good for porn and finding good PC part deals.
Lincoln Rivera
Back to your shite site weekender >>>/reddit/
Ethan Williams
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Aiden Long
Go back and stay there.
Ryder Myers
Counter-Strike Team Fortress Welcome to the future you fat faggot.
Adam Flores
The fact is it doesn't work Bethesda could have just used the term "Third party DLC", a concept which already exists and has been used by companies like Taleworlds. But they were lazy Being Bethesda, they expected their community to do all the work and basically used Steam's modding system rather than doing anything
Gabriel Stewart
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Andrew Foster
The biggest issue I have with paid mods is that it makes people shy away from sharing modding materials with each other. When Skyrim had paid mods the guy behind SkyUI made it paid, knowing that a fuckton of mods depend on it. On top of that what happens if a mod extends another mod, or has a similar idea? If Doom had paid mods would the guy behind Brutal Doom be able to sue the Project Brutality modders?
There was one Skyrim magic mod that had a trial version, which would repeatedly tell you to pay for the full version every cast.
Matthew Rogers
Just imagine if every developer gets an incentive to further more half ass their PC ports because some modder will fix it for free while the company profits from it.
Aiden Sanchez
The idea solely exists because Bethesda realized that they could make money off of their massive modding community and make it seem to gullible idiots like they actually care about their modding community.
Noah Nguyen
he's shitposting, ya nerd
Ian Moore
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Logan Morris
Redditshit aside, why do Normalfags argue like they lost a part of their frontal lobe?
Oliver Wright
normalfags/retards already tried to defend them when Jewell tried to force them the first time. Some 2 months ago I think they swllowed the pill with ASSFAGGOTS 2 having them for good. Now other companies will follow and the retards will take it in as well.
It's always the same tactic. They try as long as they have to, until the voices thast point out the absurdity of their idea get to tired to respond. Then they have no opposition, only their handchosen supporters and retads that don't know better, and everyone suffers in the ned.
James Butler
Fag
Jose Ward
I'm not sure I want people like that to remain modders or to get a job as devs.
Grayson Ramirez
Which s it?
Wyatt Richardson
As shit as Skyrim is, I have to give some credit to their modding community. The shithead who did that along with almost everyone who even considered joining in on the paid mods bullshit got blacklisted by the community at large.
That magic mod dev got shamed off the Nexus.
Andrew Robinson
Who would have ever thought we would see the day we had to pirate fucking mods of all things.
Jayden Anderson
Reddit is shill central though.
Always check the users post history before just assuming it's a jackass dumbshit millennial fuckwad and not a jackass dumbshit millenial slavewage fuckwit
Parker Jones
No good game will ever have paid mods. Only shits like dotos or skyrims.
Brandon Bennett
MUH CAPITALISM TOP KEK how do you feel now capitalcucks ?
Juan Moore
Can't wait for someone to perform an "overhaul" mod of sorts for a game and the package just happens to include the entire fucking game for like $2 or something. I hope it becomes a thing where people do it in droves just to shit on the publishers.
Adam Bailey
What do you expect from youngfags that have known only this shit era of gaming? They've been trained to appreciate the taste of shit and have had their assholes gradually gapped over the course of their lives.
Joseph Cox
go back to the bread queues marx
Henry Perry
Video games were a mistake.
Ayden Hernandez
Literally who cares. You can always find people on reddit defending the most appalling business practices, from EA's to Ubisoft's and everything in between. This is nothing new and neither is it all that surprising.
Charles Gray
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Cooper Morris
Yeah. I remember when they said horse armor was just a one off and that it wasn't going to spread.
You're a fucking tool.
Wyatt Clark
What good game has ever considered having paid mods, tool bro?
Brody King
You're not falling for that, right anons ?
Lincoln Rogers
He's comparing the new craze of paid mods with shitty DLC what barely does a thing that is now rampant. People said the same shit about horse armor.
Nolan Rogers
Ignorant and illiterate, fucking great. Children truly are our future.
Josiah Moore
Seriously, I was about to greentext every part I had a reaction to, but then I realized I had just quoted the entire post. Your post reeks of something wrong.
Christopher Torres
I'm fine with how things are going. No, this is good. Let them rape gaming to death, I really don't give a shit at this point.
Jack Price
Cockmongler, you went with shit like "they said that" and I'm supposed to give a fuck what 'they' said? Paid mods won't affect good games because modders who want to make an easy buck on mods are attracted to shit like skyrim or fo4.
Alexander Robinson
Oh, you're a redditor. Now I really don't give a shit.
Elijah Morales
It's appalling because, whether we like it or not, PR people go on reddit to see what they think. If they see this shit plastered everywhere then we'll see paid mods return everywhere.
Andrew Smith
Then why don't you go there and stay there? If you're so worried about what happens on reddit, then fuck off and fight your good fight over there.
Jonathan Harris
Eagerly awaiting paid mods for HoMM 3, lmao.
James Anderson
what is eu4 mods
Andrew Flores
drink bleach you mega retard
unfortunately they did swallow the pill because unlike skyrim, there was literally nothing wrong with this system besides p2w elements in the arcade even then valve isn't going to be raking in too much since a very small percentage of people play the arcade constantly
Mason Ortiz
Any company that listens to ribbitors and ribbitors thelmselves can go die in a fucking hellfire. You're welcome to join them if you're that worried if you'll miss out on anything important.
Chase Turner
If your company needs an actual 'prevention' to not do paid mods then, surprise fucking suprirse, your company was already shit and it would show sooner or later.
Samuel Cooper
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Nathan Adams
For what it's worth, the sentient mound of cancer is being downvoted.
Easton Flores
Why should mods do it for free? Their time is valuable.
John Richardson
Fucking Windows cucks.
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Charles Hall
Oh settle down, retard. Like 90% of the mods for every game are pure shit, but some modders produce quality stuff that gives professional devs a run for their money. These modders were never allowed to be compensated for their work because they were using game assets from the developer. Now they're allowed to get some cash for their shit if they choose to. Low effort, low quality shit gets largely ignored, high quality stuff gets funded and allows those modders to make more shit. The free market will fix it.
Adrian Miller
And they will make millions out of it.
Nathan Jenkins
Daily reminder
Blake Bell
Sure thing pal
Jonathan Stewart
Well, would you really pay for shit?
Ryder Carter
If you want to be paid to play computer games get a fucking job
Jackson Gonzalez
You write like that on plebbit when you want to start a new line. Easiest way to spot newfags from plebbit.
It didn't fix DLC, microtransactions and day-one-preorder bullshit. The free market fixes nothing it just gets manipulatetuntil the desired outcome for a company appears. Only in the rarest of circumstances, when enough people are pissed off, shit has the potential to fix itself, like with the first paid mods attempt. Unfortunatley the number of pissed off people starts to diminish with time until companies get whatever they were pushing in the first place, and then it'll be too fucking late to fix it.
Landon Lewis
As a modder I make all my shit for free, you're likely one of those fucks that whines because I don't update and toss the shit in that you want.
Hunter Jackson
Hello Gaben
Charles Sanchez
In this case, it allows hobbyist developers to do it for a living. I don't see a problem with that. Unless they're making all mods strictly paid, I don't see a problem with allowing people to sell their mods under certain conditions.
Tyler Evans
Jesus Fucking Christ, why.
Mason Murphy
I told you faggots. What they did back in the paid mods disaster back then was twist public opinion to their advantage.
Get ready to pirate mods, unless you take control of academia and media overnight and train a new generation to not be brainwashed, obedient consumerist cattle, you can't do anything about this.
Nathaniel Diaz
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Grayson Roberts
Who?
Evan Flores
More like PR people run most large subs there because it's Shilling: The Website.
John Brooks
Really?
Chase Morris
I blame all of you fags who paid for DLC. Paid mods are essentially the same thing, but from a different source.
Jonathan Gray
Go back there and don't come back faggot
Xavier Bennett
No. Fuck you user. Stop.
Oliver Barnes
Unless your shit is proven to be worth something, it's worthless. Also you faggots who bought into the whole DLC shit are to blame for this, if you didn't buy that shit we wouldn't even have paid mods to begin with
Gavin Morgan
I've been saying this for ages.
DLC is going to die out, but only as a term. Instead, mods are going to take their place. Paid mods will make 'professional mod studios' which are just going to be hush-hush branches of game developer/publisher companies who will just make the same old DLC but call it mods, and the developers/publishers will be able to stop other people from making unlicensed mods by only making the mod tools available to these 'professional modding studios' or by making mods impossible without developer/publisher support by means of having a denuvo-like system that requires specially approved patch within the mod to get around, patches that are only accessible via the developers/publishers.
Jackson Morgan
That's already a thing though Nightmare house 2 if you don't own HL2 would be one example I can think of
Adrian Ross
Shit, that means you would have to pirate Zombie Panic Source, Smashball, SourceForts, Zombie Master etc
Jason Cooper
Not to seem rude, but separating paragraphs by starting a new line has been a staple of english writing for a couple dozen years. It doesn't excuse people who think every 2 sentences constitutes a paragraph, sure, but if you're going to be dropping a shit-ton of information on someone, you'll get your point across better if you can break it up into more manageable paragraphs. If my english classes back in college taught me anything, it's that people are fucking stupid these days and have zero attention span. The average human being's reading capacity is going down the drain faster than shit in a shower, and any paragraphs over 5 sentences are considered "too long" by far too many people. It's not at all surprising, then, that the internet and image-based boards are starting to adopt a text style that features absurdly short paragraphs constituting only a few sentences at a time. Does this say a lot about the boards themselves, or does it say more about the quality of people who go on them?
People used to make things for free, user. I know it's hard to believe, but the modding scene basically started out because DLC was too stale and un-creative for many people, or it simply wasn't coming out fast enough. Modding used to be the free man's alternative to DLC, and branched a sort of friendly arms race in many games like doom, for example. Without free modding and all the .wads that were made for doom, I doubt it would be as famous as it is today. There's a sad truth in what you say, even if you don't explicitly say it: as the world is slowly consumed by happy merchants, everything is becoming monetized now. There's even pre-ordering movies now. PRE-ORDERING MOVIES. And it's not even going to be that good of a movie either. Everything is just slowly becoming a bit of a cash-grab these days because people like you aren't willing to stand up and say "enough is enough, damnit" to people who want to gouge every penny out of your wallets to line their own. Don't give in to the despair, user. People still make things for free, and if you popularize the idea instead of supporting terrible ideas like paid mods (which, let's be honest, is just the publishers using the community to make DLC now), maybe we can go back to those days when things were better.
Mason Sanders
As opposed to a present where PC releases are unoptimized messes and loyal fanboy doormats will fix the game for absolutely free. Because that's already happening today.
Xavier Wood
No, stop, shut the fuck up. You seem like a decent fellow, stop embarrassing yourself.
Leo Cox
OP what the fuck were you doing on reddit, let alone deep enough into the comments section to find these posts?
please go back and stay there >>>/reddit/
Jayden Martinez
those aren't paragraphs he had there fam, they were single sentences
Hudson Carter
The other main rule to follow for paragraph breaks is different ideas. Talking about this for example can be its own paragraph, but if I suddenly want to complain about niggers I would make a new paragraph. It makes (your) writing much more coherent for the average reader.
Man, I fucking hate niggers. Especially niggers who defend paid mods.
Ethan Lee
I'm saying it started out because DLC sucked, user. It sucked balls, and people knew they could do better. So they did. For free. Honestly, I sort of wish free mods had completely wiped out the concept of paid DLC. Though, I guess that's where we're heading now, isn't it. Except the mods aren't free anymore.
You'd be surprised what idiots these days think constitutes a paragraph. I wrote a paper for a junior-level class that had 4-sentence paragraphs, and I got pegged for "having too large of paragraphs". It was disgusting. True, but who is the "average reader" These days, anyways? if the tastes of "average readers" change, does that constitute a change of the entire english literary system to fit their needs as is happening right now, or should we try to pressure the dissenters into conforming to typical english conventions?
Elijah Morgan
"Average reader" is the average person who isn't a drooling retard, so I guess calling them average is an oxymoron. I was taught as early as middle-school that paragraphs should be four sentences minimum.
Ethan Miller
Modders will have bloody wars on who created whos ripped content. And it's not about the mod, it's abouuuut who gets teh money. Good times ahoy.