Why do Jews love Communism?

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Most of the communists of the 19th-20th century were the sons of wealthy Jewish businessmen and industrialists that rebelled against their fathers' bourgeois wishes to carry on the family business. Makes the whole Oedipal/Freudian influence on 20th century Marxism even more ironic, really.

There's actually an entire chapter dedicated to this in Stuart Jeffries new book on the Frankfurt School (Grand Hotel Abyss). Very good book, though not as good as The Dialectical Imagination.

Jews have always been the gadflies of history, and communism is basically gadflyism writ large.

You mean:
And the answer to that is a combination of both being oppressed and highly educated. Along with the more predictable right-wing turn (Zionism) you'd expect from a population under the boot, you had Jews becoming disillusioned with all of it, turning their backs on their old religion and becoming communists.

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The gadfly comment was not meant as an anti-Semitic insult whatsoever. It's actually a compliment. Societies need gadflies to stick thumbs into the eyes of authoritarian control. Think Socrates, et al.

Why do you follow an ideology concocted by the Jews to destroy you?

Did you know that one of the creators of race realist ideas that even Hitler used was a Jew?

Because Jews are the true master race and must inherit the world for the good of humanity.

Some Jews are exceptions to the rule, and one man does not mean that Not Socialism is Jewish.

Marxism and it's variants, on the other hand were entirely Jewish in their nature. Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, and (it's rumoured) Stalin were Jewish.

I'm not singling out the Left here by the way. One look at the Austrian and Chicago schools of economics and you the Jewish influence present in the Right as well.

[citation needed]

Then how do they manage to subvert us if they're dumber than us?

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_Nobel_laureates

They control us because people like you refuse to see the truth.

That and the Jews tried their best to destroy Not Socialism in WW2.

*National Socialism
damn autocorrect

"Not Socialism" was a corpse from get go.

You can literally take any ideology, look up a group of people that follow the beliefs and then trace it back to an ethnicity. You can just as well say Marxism is a german ideology and then look up and compile a list of germans who follow marxism and say "LOOK! all the germans who are marxists! marxism is a german ideology!" This is literally Holla Forums's entire basis of argument and it's fallacious. Look up the "Texas sharpshooter fallacy".

…and another thing, judaism as a religion and jew as a "race" are two different things.

Thread over.

wat

youtu.be/YkenkfRTn4c
ihr.org/other/economyhitler2011.html

Go back to reddit

Learn some history, moron.

It's called "bubble" and taking credits from English banks (i.e. Rothschild). The kind of credits Germany was paying for until the May 1945 (through Swiss banks, of course). That's what your "National" """Socialism""" is about: fighting and dying to pay for debts to Jews. Literal actual Jews.

Battle of Stalingrad? The one that was about Caucasus oil? Do you know that oil was already privatized and soldiers were fighting not for Germany, nor for victory, but because someone wanted to start getting profits from oil sooner? Reich kept on fighting for two years without supposedly "vital" oil.

By refusing to count unemployed women as unemployed and forcing them out of jobs - so as to free them for men. Brilliant "revival" strategy.

Germany was effectively a failed state by 1938, due to "reforms". Only stealing things from other people could've kept it afloat. That's how Reich kept on functioning - via theft. That's all there is to it.

Funny that Nazis never mention that during Hitler's "economic miracle" he wasted resources bought from other country's with loans on massive construction projects that he employed the general populace in to inflate the GDP.

He later dealt with those loans by invading countries and setting the exchange rate for their currencies.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prora

ex.

The whole 'Hitler was a Jew pawn' meme has been debunked.

Money came from issuing LTC's, not borrowing from Jews.

webofdebt.com/articles/bankrupt-germany.php

In 1945. When Soviet tanks rolled in.

Are you fucking joking?

Germans have been slaves ever since 1945. It was Not Socialism that freed them, not your Jewish Communism.

*NatSoc
fucking h8 this autocorrect

Explain to me then, when (and how) did Germany break free from banks?

You had me at syndicalism tbh.

Nationalised the banks and abolished usury.

The details are all in these sources:
youtu.be/pKnFN8P21-0
youtu.be/YkenkfRTn4c
youtu.be/_r9Z-hTn1r4
aryanism.net/politics/economics/
ihr.org/other/economyhitler2011.html

Also see

Syndicalism is pretty good, but Nazi is better.

We were talking about Germany's international debt.

They simply didn't pay it.

lel

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Oh boy you sure showed me 10/10 Holla Forums logic could not refute

They didn't take out any new loans, they just didn't pay the debt that already existed. No 'lel' here, it's basic history.

I hope you're proud.

youtube.com/watch?v=xBXoXB3QvyI

You posted a strawman argument. Come back to me with a real argument and I'll listen.

Ironically, your post applies to yourself.

It's not a strawman, Holla Forums relies on picking a bunch of individuals and compiling them into a list to find a connection, again I could just as well refute this via reductio ad absurdum by picking a bunch of germans who support marxism and claiming marxism is german, like how Holla Forums does when it claims marxism is jewish.

Would you mind telling me when and how this glorious event happened?

That's a lie.

It's not about who supports Marxism, it's about who invented Marxism, ad Bolshevism.

And that was Marx (Jew), Lenin (Jew), Trotsky (Jew) and Stalin (rumoured Jew).

Something that didn't happen isn't an event. It didn't happen at any particular moment in time. Christ, you're dense.

But somehow you have no sources backing up your claim, whereas I have many sources backing up mine.

They had to decide at some point to stop making payments, did they not? Some statement or declaration should've happened. Newspapers should've wrote about this. A grand event, no?

Will you convert to Marxism, if I present you proof?

Are you actually implying that the traits of a person rub off onto whatever ideology they think up? That's incredibly retarded. That's like saying Immanuel Kant's Deontological Ethics is a german philosophy. Or like saying Ghandi's stance on pacifism is an Indian ideology.

The same reason they love capitalism, they get to jew their way to the top and make shekels.
Also, they hate traditionalism and nat. soc.

doing gods work user

Marx was raised in a Lutheran household, hated Judaism and organised religion so much he wrote several books on just how shitty it is and why, specifically Judaism.

The Ulyanovs were not Jewish.

Trotsky was Jewish, became an atheist.

Stalin was a Georgian orthodox Christian, later atheist.

Anyways, you're a mongoloid with no knowledge of anything because you get all of your knowledge from artifact-riddled JPEGs from Stormfront and Holla Forums. Kill yourself immediately and do your ethnic lineage proud.

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There's been so much interbreeding now that "pure" strains of white don't exist anymore. When you want muh raec war what you REALLY mean is that you want go gas the guy who's 87.6% white because he's not as pure as your 88.7% white genes. Reminder that genetics can be diluted but never reconstructive; once someone has mated with a person who isn't fully white, that child can never mate to bring his bloodline back to 100% white, it will always have a fraction of interbreed in them.

Your perfect white race has never existed, and it still doesn't exist. Get over yourself.

I'd add to this the fact that clearly antisemitic policies were enacted under Stalin (such as the Doctor's Plot) and they are well documented.

m8 the vast majority of northwest Europeans are 100% white, so speak for yourself mongoloid scum.

Okay, tell me what those policies were.

Or was it the rumours that were documented?

Let's see a source on that?

Hold up faggot, you're the one who made the claim "87.6%" so the burden of proof is yours. I'm waiting for my source.

Most of the antisemitic policies under Stalin were labelled as a struggle against "rootless cosmopolitans", of which the Doctor's Plot was only one of the most infamous.

This paper is pretty solid: quest-cdecjournal.it/focus.php?id=212

Oops, was meant for

Which means it was either anti-nationalism (against supporters of - newly - pro-Capitalist Israel) or anti-globalism.

Neither was racist: Volga Germans also got similar measures taken against them during WWII. Or should I point to the American Japanese during the very same WWII?

"Doctor's Plot" has nothing to do with anything. Especially, antisemitism. There were a few medical mistakes made, and some high-level Soviet medics had a corruption scheme going to cover them up. When some over-eager KGB officers got a wind of it - they blew it out of proportion.

There were some Jews, but not even majority.

> Among the most important works published in the last twenty years, one should remember – beyond the Black Book mentioned above – The Unknown Black Book, which collects material not present in the former volume because it mainly centred on the issue of collaborationism
> Black Book
Nope. This paper is clearly not solid. I'm surprised they were not quoting Solzhenitsyn.

It was always part of the NSDAP's policy not to pay bets which they considered wrongly enforced on Germany.

I highly doubt it, but you can't expect to have a reasoned debate without backing up your claims.

You're misunderstanding game - this isn't about a particular person, it about the fact that Marxism and it's variants are fundamentally a means for Jewish control. It is similar to capitalism in that it is used by the Jews to control and destroy nations.

It's really not.

Only motivate the white race.

Anime actually promotes white nationalism.

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whoops, didn't mean to greentext. Fucking alacrity demon.

dumping refutall to your shit holocaust denial .jpgs

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Redpill-style infographics are lame as fuck but considering some asshole thought he was actually being smart by posting them earlier in the thread, I guess this is necessary.

uh not him but that was just an example to illustrate his point. way to dance around sourcing

As I said, the whole 'Hitler was a Jew pawn' has been thoroughly debunked, I'm not going to entertain these ridiculous notions.

If you want to talk about the Jews financing people, though, let's look at the Russian Revolution.

youtu.be/DC8GLciF-5s
youtu.be/Qa-dInQEa-4
youtu.be/j6p1zxKnDeM

The rest of your post is flawed in its view of class conflict. Why you would base your anti-bourgeois worldview on a member of the bourgeois who never did a day's work in his life is beyond me. Everything that derives from Marx is Jewish cancer.

One look at your first image tells me that you are not to be taken seriously.

There is no physical proof for the Holocaust. Deal with it.

All ideas should be separate from the person who suggests them - Marx's ideas hold, even if his lifestyle does not. In the same way, if you said anything that wasn't just regurgitation of stuff you read on /new/ circa 2011 I'd actually have to think about whether or not what you're saying is true, but I somehow doubt that'll happen.

Would you trust a fat guy to tell you how to stay fit? Fuck no. So why should you listen to Marx on these matters? The guy was a hypocrite, which is never a good sign.

What's the point then? If you think that your arguments can persuade other people, then you should expect their arguments to persuade you.

Are you simply marking territory here?

But I don't see any of your claims actually backed. Moreover, you are not even familiar with the basics of Reich's economy, if you actually believe that it was debt-less financial system.

I already did my research of Reich's economy - and came to conclusion that Nаtiоnаl Socialism is nothing but Capitalism. Both ideologically and economically Germany was almost indistinguishable from the other Western nations (except it was more corrupt and desperate).

New debts were made. I was talking about those.

And you don't even understand what "Jewish" control is about, or why is it called Jewish.

Well you see, this may be somewhat surprising to someone used to accepting all statements by authority figures but rather than taking everything at face value you can actually look into the logic behind what people are saying and see if it holds up to that examination. It's really fun, I'd recommend it sometime.

The "gas chambers are inefficient" argument is especially retarded because the majority of victims were shot.

There is also the fact that you likely believe in muh 100 million dead from communism too.

You don't go into an argument expecting to be persuaded, but you do keep an open mind. I am open, if only a little.

The sources, m8.

Of course I don't believe the Reich had a debtless economy, but the key difference was that the German owed money to themselves, not the Jews, which means they could actually pay it off at some point (the war took away that chance obviously).

I can see how you might come to that conclusion, but that's a very simple view to take. It was more of a system where capital is allowed only if it utilised for the good of the people. You have be nuanced here.

Let's see some sources then.

Enlighten me then.

Marx cannot be trusted on a very basic level. I'm not going to resort to convoluted arguments to circumvent a very valid point like you.

Don't worry, you look very smart and intuitive with logic like that.

Actually, I think there is much dubiousness about the claims made about some Communist regimes, if you have legitimate sources refuting these I'm genuinely interested to see those. Countries like Cuba and North Korea have escaped the control of the banks, which means they might be onto something.

Says the guy who started this with his own infographics.

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I don't need to defend the person because I don't give a shit about him, I give a shit about his ideas. The fact that you can't wrap your head around the concept of someone caring about concepts rather than figures is sort of telling itself.

Try again.

But the ideas are a reflection of the person. If the person is a hypocrite, it's a sign that they are not to be taken seriously. I refer you to my earlier analogy of fat guy giving advice on how to stay fit.

Oh boy, it's precious. When did you get redpilled, user? It couldn't have been earlier than 2013.

Also that fat guy being a lazy fucker doesn't mean that he couldn't have taken the time to look into how to actually diet and work out, it just shows that he didn't follow it thus why I would look into what he's saying and see if there's kernels of fact in there. It's really not that hard to do your own research in the internet era, there's not much of an excuse.

Nat. Soc. is neither left or right, you retard

wew lad

Also, if someone can give valid advice then you'd do well to listen.

No, I'm pretty sure that the endless focus on traditionalism and hierarchy is pretty rightist even if you personally don't like being jumbled in with ancaps and monarchists, user. Left and right politics is inherently reductionist, you'll learn to live with it in time.

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Apologies. We were bored.

You don't have supporting sources, you moron.

Sorry user, but I had to do this. Much love.

typical.

Oh, sweet is it a Holla Forumsyp infographs thread?

Wew lad

now you're getting it

I wouldn't be surprised if Irish and Jews were in cahoots with each other tbh.

IT'S ALWAYS DEM EBIL JOOZ

the last picture looks like the workers are giving all their wealth to hitler while saluting him
what a bunch of class-cucks lel

nytimes.com/2002/08/08/world/hitler-it-seems-loved-money-and-died-rich.html?_r=0
> But during his time as German leader, every couple who married were given a copy of Mein Kampf by their local community – which had to buy the book from the publisher.

celebritynetworth.com/articles/celebrity/rich-hitler/
> Once he was in power, the German government purchased and distributed 6 million copies of Mein Kampf to soldiers, and average citizens alike. Every married couple in Germany was given a "free" copy of the book on their wedding day.

It is. You can't trun a blind eye to the number of jews in influental position inside USA. We are basicially funding the exsistance of the state of Isreal.
But ofc you're going to be a shabbos goy and approve that.

No no, it's not the jews it's any displaced population that I will have to end up dealing with on a regular basis! The jews are a classic enemy since they were forced into europe and out of the middle east with no distinct homeland thus leading to being second-class citizens in many countries but don't forget the gypsies from the same time and nowadays central americans moving up to the US are also pure evil and muslims forced out of their homes due to war caused by western intervention are also faggot degenerates that need to die.
If they all went home, then they would no longer be scum of the earth though.

We also give support to Saudi Arabia and Turkey despite both having funded ISIS and the Saudis flying planes into our shit because they're cunts like that. As it turns out, we'll support any ally in the middle east no matter how shitty they are.

how about instead of just crying "DA JOOZ" you look deeper.

Who are they?
what have they done?
what are they currently doing?
are they actually jewish?
critical thinking, tovarisch.

How do you know it was this photo was faked by Soviets?

because there are no credible sources to say that this is the case. The ones that do use fakery to say that they're the fakes.

tl;dr your sources are shit.

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Is his advice legit? then i'll hear it.

You do realize those photos were made by a Holocaust denier? He took actual photos and photoshopped the dead Jews in there.

Not hard to find real photos just like it those though.

Of course original estimates for the Holocaust were much higher than today. But as early as the 1950's there were already historians who estimated the death toll to be between 5-6 million where it is today.

But I'm not gonna bother. Holocaust deniers have yet to offer up an adequate explanation for the missing Jews who went through Auchwitz and the Atikon Reinhard Camps(which were supposedly "transit camps"). No records of mass transits out of the camps. Even Holocaust denier Carl Mattogno while admitting there were at least 2.5 million Jews we couldn't account for, could find no convincing evidence of mass transits.

But nice photos dude. That propaganda might work on the naive and apolitical normie from reddit( which seems like where you guys get most of your traffic from), but it won't work here.

Furthermore the "100 million dead from communism" is somewhat accurate(the number is inflated, it would be more around 70 million) - but only if you consider the famines which were largely caused by poor government policy combined with environmental factors, to be the same as putting the gun to someones head and pulling the trigger. I fail to see how in the case of the Great Chinese Famine(caused by Lysenkoist agricultural pseudo-science) which is where the Black Book gets the overwhelming majority of it's numbers from is part of something innate in communist ideology.
Further more as pointed out by Noam Chomsky:

The same can't be said for the Holocaust.

Nothing about him makes him an expert witness, he was like 5 when WW2 ended.

jfc, is there anything that isn't controlled by jews to you people? Fucks sakes.

My sources? I just asked question, I didn't claim Soviets didn't fake it.
Your image DOES make a claim tho, attributing the fakery to the Soviets, so I ask, what are the credible sources for such a claim?

Forgot this

Neither Nat. Soc. or Fascism is right-wing moron. It's basically authoritarian centrist.

This meme only works in the US. Jews control things worldwide.

You want sources?

pastebin.com/35E6BdQ4
pastebin.com/Uc1EkvGZ
youtu.be/oUGKmCdAaN4
youtu.be/zGwn5R1PC9Q
youtu.be/CHqlf0D9nuQ
youtu.be/7dxsVSzL4HE
youtu.be/Os0eldMv-wE
youtu.be/RHzWo79dCHs
youtu.be/QxAvpvz_4wQ
youtu.be/MLloM6ufVgk
youtu.be/MejbBsSAP8I
youtu.be/rhGMCYWqKI
youtu.be/uE2hsaHAEX0
youtu.be/iIYswWXhkcA
youtu.be/j-1ts3VTeeI
“You shall return minus 6 million"
youtu.be/LjRsoLqHGr4

Then you're an idiot. There's no way to prove if his advice is legit.

"No"
see pic

You can see that the fake ones are doctored, it almost looks photoshopped. The real ones look more genuine.

Owned by Jews

It's called proxies.

I should clarify that Socialism isn't inherently Jewish as it has it's roots in Owenism, which predates Marxism.

Capitalism wasn't invented by Jews but it allows the Jews to manipulate things too easily. The 1%? They're the Jews.

Worth remembering that a lot of these real photos are indeed real, but show atrocities committed by Soviets dressed as Germans. Look up Torchmen.

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My question is, what proof is there of the Soviets faking it?

LOL. What? How does that have anything to do with Nazi atrocities.

Anyway, I'm not gonna bother responding until you can tell me where all the missing Jews went with at least as convincing evidence as the Holocaust. I'm not going to wade through your propaganda I've already seen enough from Holocaust deniers to get the jist of it.

Torchmen is proven by the existence of No.0428, a command by Stalin.

As for the pictures, you can't physically prove that someone has doctored them, so if you don't believe me, fine, but you can see that the real ones clearly look more genuine than the fake ones.

Look through the sources I gave in that post, the whole Holocaust is refuted.

I hate white people.

i'm not even sure what the point of (as a nazi) denying the holocaust is considering you wished it happened anyway

Where are the missing Jews then Nazi? All those links are based on sophistry, misrepresenting or purposely omitting evidence.

How do you account for contemporary documents detailing the use of Gas Vans, such as the Becker letter or the many Einztangruppen reports? holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.ca/2016/09/mattogno-and-activity-situation-report.html

It's not just the WA, any list of Jewish population numbers shows no fall in numbers.

Seriously? You come up with atrocities, I said that said atrocities were committed by the Soviets, not the Germans. That has everything to do with it.

There are no missing Jews.

So, none?

KEK

youtube.com/watch?v=aJYexBnOnBc

i dont need more rightshit in my youtube recommendations. what is it?

False. ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005687 The WA accounted for them and so did every other book that did any sort of census on the Jewish population of Europe.

Yes there are. Like I said again there are NO records of mass transits out of the Atikon Reinhard camp.
How about everything on this site? holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.ca/

When your "sources" starts out with blatantly wrong sophistry like the WA population you guys keep harping on about, why should I take you seriously?

nice meme

this competes with a metropolitan sewage pipe for sheer amount of shit in one place

test it yourself and/or compare it with existing confirmed knowledge.

chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/search/pages/results/?date1=1836&sort=relevance&rows=20&proxtext=6000000 jews&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=0&state=&date2=1922&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=2

It's funny they are obsessed with the number 6,000,000 they use it all the time in their lies. The link is actual testimonies from Jews in who were in concentration camps.

The world Jewish population is still lower than it was before the Holocaust. Do you seriously think that every census on Jews conducted by any organization since the Holocaust has been lying and that there are right now an extra 5-6 million Jews in the world unaccounted for?

So unless you can substantiate the above claim, where are the missing Jews?

i'm pretty sure 6 mil is a ballpark figure anyway, not an exact number. With all the chaos of the time it's difficult to tell for certain.

It's estimated to be between 5-6 million.

Yeah, that's why they have been using that figure to shill for the last century.

Oh, really? I heard it was actually 6 bazillion

sauce.

fuck off

SAUCE.

no you fucking idiot it's just difficult to account for all the deaths due to there being A FUCKING WAR GOING ON.

I only talked about the picture of the woman being hung supposedly faked by the Soviets. The user you're discussing Torchmen with is someone else.
Anyway, what I want to know is how do you know WHO faked it, not if it's faked or not. What proof is there that the Soviets faked it and not someone who wants to attribute the fakery of that hung woman to the Soviets?

So it's just pure coincidence that they have been shilling that number since the early 1900s?

what is it with stormfags and unfounded accusations?

chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/search/pages/results/?date1=1836&sort=relevance&rows=20&proxtext=6000000 jews&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=0&state=&date2=1922&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=2

Look at all of these unfounded accusations

my point stands, unfounded as fuck. you're cherrypicking articles to bolster your position. Would you like a list of times they specified other races/groups?

africans?
other americans?
europeans?
romani?
or is your retarded prejudice just showing and driving you to commit fallacious bullshit like this in an attempt to look credible.

You can't brand all my links as propaganda based on a false assumption about one fact. You're just being lazy.

See pic.

Lists that take the Holocaust into account don't add up.
Look at this one and do the maths:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_country

They didn't, that's just blatantly false.

Really? There are books out there that don't take the Holocaust into consideration.

Physical evidence. And you have none.

So I guess you don't want me to take you seriously.

See above, the numbers don't add up.

Source is above, numbers don't add up.

Admittedly it's very hard to prove that anyone has doctored these photos. But the real ones just look more genuine, the fake ones are clearly doctored. Look the first one, in the fake one you can notice an unnatural line between the soldier and the woman, similar to photoshop. The hands are awkward in the fake too - look at arm length.

More sources, refute these:
abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/British-Ministry-of-Truth-Said-in-1944-That-the-Holocaust-Must-be-Created-to-Distract-from-USSR-Massacres.shtml
theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2016/05/07/jews-tell-the-truth-about-auschwitz/
20thcenturytruth.wordpress.com/allied-forensic-autopsies-confirm-disease-not-gas/
ihr.org/leaflets/libcamps.shtml

Also, the decline in Jewish numbers has been due to intermarriage, not the Holocaust.
independent.co.uk/news/jews-could-die-out-by-next-century-1319030.html

youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk

Pure coincidence…