What does the "turd position" of the alt-right even mean?

What does the "turd position" of the alt-right even mean?

After close examination, fascism/neetsucc seems to just be extreme capitalism with nationalistic and social democratic tendecies, but thats really nothing new.
How is their ideology the 'third way'?
What even is the 'second' or 'first' way?

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3rd position is something gadaffi was
he had quite a lot of socialist policies installed in libiya but the country was quite conservative, socially speaking

It is.

The ostensible idea as I understand it is that it's neither totally unregulated capitalism or its replacement with socialism.

The logic basically concludes that FDR was a fascist. It's reformism for edgelords.

because theyre literally retarded

do you mean the yugoslavian league of independent nations? What are alliances good for if you can't count on your allies in case of a war.

It either means Tony Blair or Adolfo hitler depending if you are racist or not

They're Westerners that think all possible political views = the Cold War.

Nazis have always been about stealing policies from the right and the left that benefit them the most. It's not 'extreme x with a slice of y' it's just sheer pragmatism that extended into morality. Hitler gave no fucks about the economy and bragged about not having an economic platform at all.

The short answer is they made shit up as they went along, and that's why it's so hard to define.

There is no true 'third way' (yet) in the sense of a viable alternative to the right and the left.

Its a way of saying "im a fascist" without getting that visceral reaction most people have to the word. Its a simple propaganda tool.

Am I the only one that notices that nearly all fascist rhetoric is maddeningly vague, and almost certainly intentionally so?

I've seen a bunch of fascist/nat-soc crap that looks like this and, when you get down to it, it's fucking nothing other than offering extremely weak, vague solutions that can be summed up as "We do good things and things get good :D"

I don't really know what turd positionist really is. But I like to consider myself Alt-Left.

- I believe in the role of government to regulate the economy. Private interests can't be trusted to do what is best for the public good.
- In favor of tighter labour law regulations. Shorter work week to curb unemployment (the unemployment statistics are a joke. Vast majority of unemployed persons are not even counted as unemployed. Some are counted as disabled when they are not really disabled. And many aren't given jack shit by the government. They end up broke and even homeless. Or having to rely on family to survive).
- Full employment policy for all able individuals who want to work.
- I am not an international socialist. If you open borders to the third-world, the first-world will cease to remain first-world. We need to stop mass immigration, curb the visa worker program, etc.
- Fines and jail time for employers who employ illegal immigrants. No wall necessary. It is so extremely easy to crack down on illegal immigration. But the government has no interest in doing so. Because the government is the puppet of corporate interests.
- Hit employers with fines and jail time for outsourcing.
- Nationalization of key natural resources (oil, water, metals, etc.) and industries (banking, insurance, etc.)
- Expansion of public services (health care, public transportation, free tuition, etc.)

I consider myself a populist. A real populist. Not a corporatist phony like these right-wing populists. The citizens of a country have a right to vote for their self-interests. Not have corporatist globalization immigration/outsourcing policy shoved down their throats by crooked politicians. Or this Kumbaya leftist shit. Or the socialist internationale shit. I really don't give a shit about India. They should just stop breeding so fucking much.

"Alt-right" doesn't exist.

I'm also anti-feminism.

I would be in favor of doing a straight-swap trade with the third-world:
For each man-hating western feminazi bitch you take off our hands, you are allowed to give us one traditional, feminine, loving third-world woman

this. do not underestimate how illiterate and stupid this movement is, they are blatant fucking retards. mindless fantasy crusaders.

do not give them any credit whatsoever they have the iq's dirt farmer apes and when they spout "you don't understand economics" they are demonstrating the dunning kruger effect to its fullest.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

What is with the liberal obsession with making fun of poor white people?

making fun of reactionaries is great. they should be the most class conscious revolutionaries but religion and porky has cucked them into being the staunchest defenders of their own opressers. its hilarious and sad at the same time. making fun of them obviously isn't the way to go, education is the most important factor but who cares this is an imageboard

If you guys really want to know in detail, have a read of this. Also, I hope we can keep things civil.

It can't be summed up easily, because it's not a simple ideology. It's a whole worldview.



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stupid people incite mockery regardless of their economic standing, race, or political affiliation.

They are making fun of his terrible teeth in the photo. Poor Americans can't afford to go see a dentist.

Where, on twitter?

Yeah, that part's pretty fucked.

wew lad.

I mean - there are spooks, and than there are SPOOKS.

Making fun of your political opponent by cherrypicking the ugly and the tards is a very common rhetorical tactic. It doesn't make the political discourse any better, it only try to play on the shame by association. But for one insecure guy who could be discouraged , two supporters are becoming more resentful and determined…

Holy fuck. These guys are nuts.

Here's a relevant quote to boil down your long-winded and ultimately insane manifesto. Trying to justify reactionary ideology doesn't mask the fact that it's reactionary.
"First there comes a terrifying realisation of the limitless uncontrolled changes now in progress, then wild stampedes, suspicions, mass murders and finally mus ridiculus the Hero emerges, a poor single, silly, little human cranium held high and adorned usually with something preposterous in the way of hats. "He knows," they cry. "Hail the Leader!" He acts his part; he may even believe in it. And for quite a long time the crowd will refuse to realise that not only is nothing better than it was before, but that change is still marching on and marching at it—as inexorably as though there were no Leaders on the scene at all. Between the extremes of Right and Left hysteria, there remains a great under-developed region in the world of political thought and will, that we may characterise as "do-nothing democracy ". Out of the sudden realisation of its do-nothingness arise these psychological storms which give gangster dictators their opportunities. It is only gradually that people have come to realise that current democratic institutions are a very poor, slow and slack method of conducting human affairs which need an exhaustive revision, and that when one has declared oneself Anti-Fascist, Anti-Communist or both, one has still said precisely nothing about the government of the world. One is brought back to the unsolved problem of the Competent Receiver. It exercised Plato. It has been intermittently revived and neglected ever since."
-HG Wells

"turd positionism" is what happens when some pretentious Fascists try to masquerade their anti-modernism as anti-capitalism in order to appear rebellious and subversive.

They don't care much about economic exploitation though, they rather sperg out about the modernistic aspects of capitalism: secularism, rationalism, urbanization, racial heterogeneity, breakdown of tradition, etc.

They're still idealist, reactionary and racist to the core regardless of how much they try to cloak it in workerist or anti-imperialist rhetoric.

turd positionism is post-modern Fascism for hippy far-rightists.

There is only one way, though.
Fascist Not Socialism.

The propaganda environment is completely different, nowadays, but the circumstances are similar, in fact, this time *all* white countries are feeling the sting of the olden times.

The chance of a brother war will be much lover, this time.

But Hitler was on the right track. There were some bad decisions but what really brought him down were other whiteys.

Not this time.

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The idea was that fascism tried to bring together capitalism and socialism into one ideology, those two being the first "two ways" and then fascism being the third.

lel.

Yeah. Important thing, though, is that the base was right and was actually perfomed quite well.

I believe this, at least, since it's been growing back naturally, again.

Elevation of your people will always trump (non pun intended) guilt and submission.

Not that that's the goal of all left things, but it is still the backbone of the majority of western concepts we are enjoying at the moment.

You can do better than this lad.

Listen to Horst Weseel Lied:

Tells you all you need to know fam.

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How much does that come to?

$19.75 PLUS tip

back to >>>/reddit/ with you feggit

Guilt and submission to who exactly?

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3rd position is a spook. It's just a religion for the #alt-right to believe themselves superior or special in anyway.

Hitler "I want to go back to the German Empire!"
Mussolini "I want to go back to the Roman Empire!"

That's as reactionary as it gets

Normies be like,
"B-but if I can change the mind of one person."
Love how they always fail to account for the costs of their own strategies. It's as if they can't brake free of the optimist narrative.

Fascism presents itself as "revolutionary" as a movement but once it successfully seizes control of the State, it is reactionary in practice.

Whatever "revolutionary" content there was to Italian Fascism or N.ational-Socialism was effectively marginalized if not suppressed by Mussolini and Hitler when in power.

I mean, the early Fascists boasted about their anti-clericalism and one the first things Mussolini did as head of State was make Catholicism the State religion and sign the Lateran Treaties.

By the way, State-sponsored propaganda songs do not make for sound evidence…