Admiral Harward turns down NSC post

V. Adm. Robert "Cuckboi" Harward has just turned down the NSC post after finding out that he can't replace everyone Flynn appointed to serve under him.


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Strange stuff going on

Isn't Harward JSOC? You would think he'd be chomping at the bits to take the CIA down.

maybe he just doesn't want to be the victim of a character assassination
or a real one

Well, I give up. Just start WW3 and let this miserable life end at once.

My first instinct is that this is a play to make Trump look unstable.

He went to high school in Iran. Who must his parents been involved with for that to happen? I'm guessing derpstate CIA niggers

kek confirms. I don't like how this is panning out. There's probably a lot of old brass that would do a great job, though. Tons of aging hardasses that know their shit. Unfortunately, the Obama administration promoted all cucks and yes-men. So most of the viable candidates are probably too fed up to come back.
First prerequisite for choose the NSC:
Must have been fired by Obama.

hmmm…

AMERICAN IMPERIUM INCOMING

Doesn't surprise me. The guy is retired, probably saw enough shit for more than one lifetime.

Where's JSOC user? What's his take on this?

TBH, that's a fair response.
I wouldn't want to be held responsible for the actions of a bunch of people I couldn't personally vouch for.
If I'm suddenly offered to a high office with grave responsibilities regarding national security, I would want to appoint my own team of people I know/trust, or else I wouldn't accept the job.

So who's up next then if this guy doesn't want it?

Or he wanted to put neocon drones back on the board after they just got ousted.

They're supposedly having another meeting. Hopefully he has people in mind.

Pretty much what Tillerson tried to do in his very first actions at State. He should have been immediately fired and thrown down the steps of the capitol for even daring to suggest someone like Abrams be brought into the state department, even after Bolton had already been ruled out. Not a flattering insight into his judgement to say the least.

Yeah the article says Trump is going to continue trying to convince him.

rience priebus had trump sign off on 15 top ambassadorships without getting any input from tillerson

Why do you think it won't be a slow and painful suffering from hunger and disease.

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Not really a fan of Rinse Penis, but I dare say that's the political cost Trump had to pay to get his support and the Republican party's backing.
Politics is a dirty business, and not even Trump is immune to it.

This guy willingly went through BUD/S and hell week, but he's too scared to be Trump's national security adviser? Uhm, what.

Did you even read the OP? It's because Trump doesn't want him to purge Mattis's picks.

Pretty much, you can fucking bet the seventh floor group are leaning into all the people Trump has named as possible replacements for Flynn.

If they really could get their way I suppose a cuckservative would be chosen for the position

Sources said it was continue serving or join the circus of the Executive branch.

Yes, I did read it. Did you?

If they could get their way Trump wouldn't have gotten this far. Must be sobering finding out you're not in charge as much as you think.

Why would we think that? Some guy making a LARP post and everyone buying it? You guys who are convinced that the military is the solution and not a massive, massive part of the problem are a pretty serious problem for this board. Your naivety is dangerous.

It seems like this victory taking down Flynn was a significant one for a multitude of reasons, but their victory wont last long and it wont save them.

Honestly, anyone still believe Trump's in control?

Supposedly one of those sign offs is Jeffrey Loria, arch-kike swindler who owned the Montreal Expos and current owner of the Miami Marlins. Rumored to be selling his team to Joshua Kushner, Jared's brother.

He's not. Kek is and he brings chaos. Not what you want, but what you need.

It's not that Trump isn't in control, it's just being shown that power in the US isn't as centralized as most people believe.

Draining of the neo-cohen swamp… WHEN?

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Looks like you got out dubbed.

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I wonder why people like (((you))) never come up with alternative solutions or suggestions.

Has this actually been confirmed? Any other sources besides OP's link?

I'm here. It's entirely possible Harward doesn't want to be "the guy" who has to go head to head with intel agencies. As a career officer he's likely worked inter agency a bunch of times and is not on the same level of hatred as the enlisted men. To boot he's a SEAL which while it doesn't always mean he's a good goy, the SEALs seem to drink the kool-aid more than any other JSOC group, not to mention they don't do as good a job of hostage rescue as the Delta Force guys. To give an example SEAL Team Six is incredibly great at HAHO parachute jumping which means they can get into area undetected, but once they get there they fuck it up sometimes. There was one incident where a SEAL threw a fucking grenade into a building where hostages were being kept. He was kicked off the team but the fact that someone in a Tier 1 unit could do something like that shows you the quality divide between Delta and Team Six's shooters and leadership. Waterborne shooting and vessel-boarding/hostage rescue they're the best, but in the mountains they aren't as good.

Delta has a selection process based an evaluating a prospective member's ability to deal with tough physical and mental problems, and has concrete standards for how good you have to be at Land-Nav, PT, ruck marching, marksmanship, etc. The Ranger Recon Company uses similar methods, as do the normal SEAL Teams and Green Berets. By comparison, SEAL Team Six has a hallway where pictures of prospective members are hung up, and SEALs add pictures or take them away. Their counter-terror training serves as selection if they're chosen because some can't hack it, but as the grenade incident shows it clearly isn't the best system for choose elite counter-terror operatives.

Long story short Navy Officers are more of a boys clubs for promotion and success whereas at least in SOC units in the Army it's more of meritocracy. (Still a boys club, but just less so than the Navy) This means Harward could very likely know about the entire shitshow ahead of him if he takes the job, he just might not want to be in it. We'll see if his sense of duty to serve the President is more or less than his desire to not deal with the Deep State's bullshit. There's another meeting set up between the administration and him from what I've read online so we'll see if Trump can woo him into staying.

We find Hitler. No more waiting, our Fuhrer is out there somewhere, lost in the wilderness, and we must find him.

I wonder who else is on Trump's list besides Patraeus and Kellogg, since Harward (don't trust him, he thinks the integration of women in military make it better) doesn't seem eager to take the job. On that note, I don't how good an idea it is to talk someone into the position that would turn it down when offered, either. Seems like a bad omen. Patraeus is bad news, Kellogg seems ok. Anyone else know if there are other names being mentioned?

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Sounds like Harward might not have been the right guy anyway.

Trump was hoping for a pro-Iranian in that post so that war with Iran would maybe be avoided.

it's calling FIGHTING for our country for a reason kike

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How?

reminder Trump is literally Hitler or the most impressive controlled op in the history of the world

i haven't had a good laugh like that in awhile, fucking hilarious

Iran doesn't want war with the US, but the kikes want war with Iran
We all know this.
I know Anthony Bourdain is a bit of a cuck and I know most of Iran has very secular views against gays etc etc etc but this Vidya dailymotion.com/video/x4lcg03 was truly the best look inside Iran for fags that haven't been there. I spent a bit of time stationed in Bahrain (where many of us went into Iran) and it was nothing like the disaster which is now Iraq and Afghanistan (two tours in Afghanistan and one in Iraq) where the people are literal savages.
Dare I say Iran is 'civilized' compared to the latter two war zones.

Gematria is bunk n:m nonsense that has no useful esoteric properties.
Trump is /ourguy/ but he's too old to be our Hitler. Our Hitler is young, maybe even still a child. Instead of trying to work within the system like Trump is forced to, he will condemn the entire system and burn it down. Trump is setting the stage for our Hitler by proving that reform within the system is impossible; even if you elect the right guy the system won't let him do what needs to be done.

To find our Hitler we must continue to propagandize to the masses. Our Hitler is quite possibly still in his pre-Vienna stage. We need to reach as many people as possible with our unadulterated message, so that we have the greatest chance of reaching our Hitler and setting him down the right path.

The road ahead is long and twisted, but we must walk it. We must walk it because if we do not, who will?

I saw it, I liked it. I've known Iranians in the past, they were decent people. Not people I instantly feel like gassing like Arabs.

We need Hitler NOW! If it's not Trump, our race will go extinct, as we are out of time. We are one generation away from an extinction event the way things are going now. The center right nationalist governments that might be coming into power will only delay the inevitable a decade or two. Whether Trump is Hitler or not, we need to act soon. We might not even get a Hitler. If Trump isn't Hitler, it ends in blood. Either ours or (((theirs))).

Could it be possible as a pick?

I thought the higher ups in all of the alphabet agencies are corrupt anyway and its mostly the mid/lower guys that are the real Americans?

Prophetic, user. Prophetic.

JSOC enlisted men hate the CIA. Their officers aren't necessarily in the same camp, especially high up officers who are the running for positions like Flynn's. Military loyalty is important to the equation, but we will have to do most of the heavy lifting ourselves. If the JSOC guys do get spurred into action they'll be doing their own thing, they won't be training us anything. You're still 100% responsibly for your own physical safety and wellbeing, but there are other actors on both sides of the fight, powerful ones, and it's foolish to just discount their discontent with our enemies.

Is Harward still up for an advisorary position? Seemed unnamed during the last conference.

Nothing in your post is provable or tangible to me. I just have to take your word for it because you wrote in an assertive tone. I don't know anybody in JSOC, enlisted or officer, I've never met anyone from JSOC even in passing. They don't send me a newsletter with monthly updates.

fuck off shariablue

Would confirm some of our theories if another JSOC guy gets pushed now.

WHO IS KT MACFARLAND?
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I fucking wish.

I expect everything to kick off once Trump is out of office. Whether that's through legitimate or illegitimate means. Trump is George Sears (Solidus,) JSOC is Snake, the Deep State are the Patriots, Arsenal Gear is the Media, and normies are Raiden.

WHO?

Don't take my word for it, check out Eric Haney's book. Colonel Charlie Beckwith's book is good too. Beckwith founded Delta Force but got the rug pulled out from under him when it came time to choose the Commander of all of JSOC, which arguably could be another example of the Deep State dicking JSOC. This is just me putting the puzzle pieces together. I think this is going to happen based on what I read and what information I think is reliable. But read all the stuff I've read, you might come to a different conclusion. But from the JSOC men I've talked to, and who I've heard speaking through the grapevine, I think the series of events I laid out is a strong possibility.

In relation to Harward I can't vouch for him though. It could be coincidence that his nomination went up right after Flynn got out. JSOC commander and deputy commander is a prestigious position and it's likely that Executive Branch nominees would come from it, shabbos goys or not.

https: //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Troia_McFarland

The real question: Why doesn't Harward like her?

Might not be personal, just that he wants his own guys in there with him.

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Did she make some kind of un-repayable contribution the campaign? Why are they prioritizing this one staffer over their first pick for the replacement?

We keep on keeping on:


If Trump saves us, then great! But if not, what choice do we have but to keep on fighting? I will never surrender. As long as we exist, the flame lives on.

Checked. Dubs confirm this to be true

We should push for this. As unlikely as it is, there is no reason why we shouldn't try. We can do this while preparing for other eventualities as well. He even has a faithful following beyond Holla Forums that can help pick up the slack among the normalfags. If he turns down the spot, then we know for sure that the CIA and others are threatening people into silence, as if it wasn't already obvious.

Democracy is fucking so shit

Don't know.

Our Hitler, if he is out there, is an Iraq/Afghan veteran. He will be in his 40's when Trump leaves his second term.

Absolute worst case scenario Trump merely slows our demise by a significant amount. These are going to be 8 long years but I think we will emerge with a much better footing than we have now.

looks like teflon don picked the wrong navy seal.

the CIA are little guys, a bunch of slack jawed faggots whove been pushing too many pencils, they are no match for a sexual tyrannosaurus

I hope our Hitler comes that soon. But I am prepared to search for him my entire life if necessary.

Sadly Ventura is a cuck who hates Trump and lives in Mexico.

I'm guessing we've already considered that Trump will probably bring about the next Hitler by emboldening someone to take on the system as Trump has apparently done and setting up the pieces for such a person to arise in the first place.

KT McFarland is the one who cringed hard at that '4chan POL board' faggot on that MSM show when they were arguing whether Trump or Bernie 'has better memes'. She at least has good taste and probably browses this board.

My former governor is too busy feeling the bern of his dude weed lmao in Mexico.

Besides, he wanted to be Trump's VP and Trump turned him down.

I always saw it as a kind of mix and matched timeline where Trump is the Nationalist Kaiser who inspires Neo-Hitler later on. We're the ones shilling Anti-Semitic pamphlets all over Vienna so he can read them.

This is my hope. But Trump isn't explicitly naming the jew, that's where we come in. Trump sets the stage and emboldens our Hitler while we teach him what he needs to know.

Is Ventura a kid fucker too?

Exactly!

I don't know. My guess is no, I think the guy is just kooky.

Did Terry Davis actually start the "CIA niggers" meme? It makes me laugh every time

His father was in the Navy. He was advising the Iranian Navy at the time Harward was in school there.

Trump should pick somone from MARSOC which isn't as CIA controlled as JSOC. Completely different culture from army/navy cuck culture.

I'm pretty sure he did. God bless that crazy man.

No, he is just full blown into the dude weed culture. He constantly talks about how much he smokes it and gets technical into the strains of weed, etc, now every time he does an interview. It's disappointing.
polite sage for off topic.

Great disinformation CIA nigger.

Seriously tweet , email , write to Trump or anyone who can get within ear shot of him that you want Michael Scheuer

yes.
Its no coincidence he checks gods will trough random number generators.

Terry Davis isn't a meme, but he indeed does create them.

Terry Davis 2024
If we can meme Trump into POTUS, why not Terry?

Terry is a legend

Trump needs to just skip to his next plan and cut everyone lose and replace them with 8/pol/ anons.

How did I not come across this guy before? He's my hero.

t. computer scientist

Terry Davis is a national treasure

He used to post on Holla Forums


Apparently he has been banned from twitter. Must have happened recently

Did he? He probably left because everyone were MIT niggers that didn't know shit.

Thanks user. You're an asset.

hahaha i like this guy

NSA are probably withholding their lists to stop him from hiring us.

Trump is the John the Baptist to the Hitler Messiah. He may have to sacrifice himself it's looking increasingly likely but he will bring about the final happening that will deliver us the American Fuhrer.

lmao

JSOC vs the CIA is a fan fiction piece at best. In reality they are more likely another muscle group for the CIA to use.

This is a nice way to think of it.

The way I see it, Trump was our olive branch to the kikes. Our good-faith attempt to place nice, by the rules. When they reject Trump and of course they are, they're opting for their own demise.

JSOC went on the OBL raid because of the CIA. This nonsense about this organization being able or even willing to try and destroy the CIA is simply ludicrous. They are most likely in on it with the deep state at the higher ups. There was a normie documentary called dirty wars that showed that JSOC did a bunch of illegal stuff just like the CIA. They arent heroes, they are a bunch of men who take orders at the enlisted levels and thats it.

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Literally the opposite of what I said.

I havent read into the history of Hitlers life in much detail, but I know Goebbels membership number was in the 8000's, and he signed up after Hitler gave a speech under a big top tent or something, signed up for party membership.

It starts with a political party. We could start it right here.

We need to keep the jewish discussion alive. Bring it to more people than ever before. We need to cast a wide net if we're to catch such a rare man that is up to the task. The more people who know about the jews because of our memetic propaganda, the better our chances of finding our Fuhrer.

He even had his own board that he posted to a little for awhile, but I'm pretty sur it is abandoned now.

>>>/templeos/

Under the Obama administration the main authority in regards to drone strikes was shifted from the CIA to JSOC. Come on guys lets bury this JSOC nonsense about them being the new SS.

Made this the other day. Kinda related

This is brilliant. Why haven't I heard this before? Powerful messaging.

You've been derailing the entire thread. It started off with discussion on Harward, and you have literally not posted anything about it. Your posts are all about memeing Hitler's second coming instead of what the thread is about.

This meme will never die. He was extremely nationalistic, and was for an ethnic Irish state for Irish blooded people, was for Socialism as a defense mechanism against England and its use of capitalism to buy up and control the land, like Jews in Germany.

He was a National Socialist before the term existed.

Talking about Hitler on Holla Forums is not derailment. I already called you out for blatantly mischaracterizing my posts:

You mean anally destroy him with a mace

Harward didn't just chicken out, he called out Trump's White House as disorganized chaos. Neocons set him up to take a big public dump on Trump after baiting Trump. You think he wants to still woo this person?

GTFO with you JSOC GI Joe circlejerk. They're all cucks.

Fair enough with
I'm tired and didn't read carefully enough. I do apologize for that.

My other point still stands though. You are filling up the thread with off topic conversation rather actively contributing to what should be an important conversation about some very big decisions.

Sage because I'm not going to help you keep derailing the thread. I'm going to bed; I have work tomorrow.

never trust a man with eyes close together

What, no one wants to fite me about Connolly? Just read these quotes, hes a hero, not a marxist scumbag.

Directly links Nationalism and Socialism even. Arguably the first National Socialist, before the Nazis.

Theres a third quote I cant think of about him reassuring everyone they will be released, and that only he and a few others will be executed. Extremely courageous man.

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So Deltas are the best SF unit the US has?

That's what I'm wondering as well.

Get better at your job lad.

From what I've read, SEAL Team Six aka DEVGRU's selection process is less well published than Delta Force's but IIRC it is called Green Team or something.

The Delta selection process is comparatively well known, it's more or less the SAS selection process (= many long marches culiminating in a 40 miler) but takes place in West Virginia instead of the Brecon Beacons.

A source close to Harward said he jus t doesn't want to get involved into the mess that is Trump presidency

No one wants the job.
This is beginning to look like catastrophical failure.

Can't wait untiln this board with it's bitch jew mods self-implodes

This. So what's the actual news?

It's real nice you stand still like that.

cry me ein river

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lmfao he denied, because he doesn't want to get involved in this wreck.
Praise Kek!

Hi jew you still wanted the white race to be extinct. Get out of this board and never to return.

You mean people who don't make choices but bear burdens of people the openly despise?
Cucks

well then, if that is how he feels I say, fuck him right in the pussy

Did they take your wheels off recently and let you play on Holla Forums now?

You're a massive faggot, according to multiple reports.

A smart man.

I read that in Ventura's voice.

Good.

Which sane man would take the position? Pls be honest

Oh look, an oven dodger has come to shitpost

I was reading some leftist rumors that Harward was against Bannon and wanted Trump to kick him off his advisory position if he took the NSC post.

could be a factor could be bullshit.

either way Harward seems somewhat compromised. He is no doubt an intelligent man and has navigated modern american politics well but I have been watching some of his talks and it seems that he has drunk the kool-aid on certain (((progressive))) ideological points in terms of the military. There has to be a better choice.

Yeah,no. I'm 1/8 jew but so what? I'm Catholic and I don't give two fucks about Isreal. I'm not enough jewish for them.
Fuck you and your fucktarded post

Fyi I do support Trump, but again I was honest, this position must be difficlt af

prepared to be shoah'd

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I'd imagine that as every other nation there are alot of Israelis browsing the board. They probably don't say it because faggot mods. Anyways I'm a patriot and a natonalist if you want to you can.cry about it.