National Syndicalism

Fascism is by definition "National Syndicalism", and is very different that NatSoc, which is why I get a little buttfrumpled when someone refers to Hitler as a Fascist instead of a NatSoc.

First off, capitalize "I", and spell "which" correctly.

NatSoc is perfectly practical, as demonstrated by the fantastic success of the Reich in the 30's, while the rest of the world crumbled into economic depression.

Fascism, on the other hand, is not a racial philosophy. Mussolini cared about whether a man was spiritually, culturally, and historically "Italian", rather than about blood, which is why pol is indifferent to Fascism. Finally, Italy's advancement under Fascism was marginal, especially when compared to NatSoc's incredible achievements.

Wew. No wonder Italy was useless in the Second World War, they were practicing babby's first nationalism. Hitler was too kind, should have just let them bomb out in Greece kek, they couldn't beat Greece

Ok, i'll try

To be honest, there aren't much differences between national-socialism and national-syndicalism in terms of economy. Pheraps nat-soc has a bigger autarcist nature than nat-syndicalism and isn't less focused on social justice as nat-syndicalism is (i once remind you that spain has always been a country with big problems concerning nepotism so they can't just trust the bosses to not be corrupt, etc)

Nat-sindicalism isn't as focused on ethnicity as nat-socialism is. Despite both being aware of the importance of preserving the ethnic hegemony of the country, nat-sindicalists don't make a big fuss about it (pheraps due to the fact that Iberia isn't ethnically homogenous?)

Other important issue is that nat-sindicalists don't really care much about invading and warmongering.

When i refer to "impractical romantic ideals" i refer to hitler's naive notion of "pure race" as well as his imperialistic posture.
Pheraps hitler wasn't the most apropriate leader for national-socialism because in the end, he was quite incompetent.

I looked at plenty of political ideologies with an open mind, and looking at another seems to be a complete waste as I currently dont see it used in practice today. I'll stick with national socialism.

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Neither Germany did. Jews and half-jews were in the SS. If a jew didn't know he was a jew, or renounced everything of his jewish identity, like Bobby Fisher, he wasn't considered a jew.
Of course many jews used this mercy to lie and infiltrate.

Although Mussolini's lack of focus on blood was a clear mistake, Hitler actually fucked him over by coercing him into implementing a half-assed racial policy half-way through the war. This ultimately only caused tensions between North-Italians and Sicilians which weakened Italy further.

How the mighty have fallen, does kikebart own this site now?

The problem wasn't fascism or Italian identity, which can work and to some people, including myself is better than basing it entirely on race and haplotypes (some country are heavily mixed, like Italy). The problem was Mussolini's sheer incompetence, nepotism and cowardice. He put the wrong people in the wrong places. Also his economy policies were slighty more retarded than Hitler's ones.

Any time someone tells you spanish people are white, post OPs image lol.. anyways, someone, probably OP, has been looking around here and on PDFs for books about the Spanish civil war that aren't written by marxist cunts. I dont have any, but I would be interested in some myself.

(and books about Mandela's terrorism in South Africa that are not pro-terrorist - those are hard to find too and Ive been looking)

It's.not a mistake, you simply can't do it in a country like Italy. Thr best yku can do.is avoid the situation getting worse, by being sure there are no jews in the country and by not allowing immigrants from third world countries. It's different from America situatiob, where groups are too much diverse to get along

Well, the problem was Mussolini lets jews into his party if they were nationalistic outwardly. That was a big mistake from the start.

I'm skeptical. Hitler and the National Socialists were well versed in the importance of blood, and I can't see them ever telling North Italians and Sicilians "you're the same, work together." Was this racial plan Hitler's direct work, or was this something Hitler suggested Mussolini do and then Mussolini or someone in the Italian government goofed horrendously?

Yes, and it does that by bread lines and food rationing.

Id disagree, the nigger tier Sicilians who have been mixed with Arabs should be considered beneath the rest. I understand the logic in the problem you described though, it would be like if Canada tried to institute National Socialism. Too many non whites, it has to be a racially homogeneous society. No racially mixed society can be a healthy society.

Or North Africans rather. Pic related always comes to mind.

Okay that's all we need to know, get the fuck out. We'll end up executing those people at some point anyhow.

Someone actually want to give a decent explanation of the aspects of this ideology, if its communist bullshit the thread should be nuked.

Depends on what part of Iberia you're talking about. Portugal is relatively homogenous. Same with Galicia and the Basques. Don't know about either Castille or Catalunya though.

There were no full Jews in the SS. Those that were first order mischlings were few, too.

White=\=Germanic

Of course spainiards aren't germanic but they are europeans and if "white" is a codename for europeans then yes, they are white
I'm an iberian myself and i don't really give a fuck about being "le volkish warrior" or "muh epic germanic mustard race" like many "hispanics" nationalist are. I would only be a hipochrite if i did that.

As for the pdfs and non-biased books on the spanish civil war there's really few. Most of them untranslated unfortunately.
One thing is certain tough… The carlists (catholic-moarchic-traditionalists) were absolute cancer. Basically the definition of cuckservative and they ruined the nationalist movement.

Mediterraneans not being white is a SJW meme

That is not proper English.
What? Give or take a few gypsies, which keep mostly to themselves, how Are Spain or Portugal not as homogeneus as any other country?
Hitler wanted peace. Once Germany was unified, he was content leaving other nations alone. War was forced upon him.
Yes, because you would have done better leading a mid-sized nation in a two front war against half the civilised world.

Nepotism may be shit for those not "in", but I contend lack of it is what gives Jews and other migrants an in to stablish themselves in a nation. The idea behind buying local, self reliance, autarchy, is to minimize dependence on others. Same thing with employing people.
If everybody was nepotistic, the drawbacks for natives would cancel out, while outsiders would not have a chance to make it. See how the migrants are always nepotistic and build support networks, be it Muslims, Chinese, Jews or whatever. Be it a place to sleep, jobs, interest-free loans, etc.
IIRC, there was some talk about how local production was more expensive, lower quality, etc, at least at first, but that since the profits reverted back onto the local economy, and reduced dependence on others, it was still well worth it.
Of course, the problem we really have is not nepotism per se, but embezzlement and such. It is one thing to employ certain people to do a job, and another entirely to
put them on the, often public, payroll without them doing real work.
Or exchanging positions for bribes.

Joder negros, estudiar un poco y preparaos un poquito los hilos antes de empezarlos, esta mierda da verguenza.

Syndicalism = "Syndicalism is a proposed type of economic system, a form of socialism, considered a replacement for capitalism. It suggests that workers, industries, and organisations be systematized into confederations or syndicates. It is 'a system of economic organization in which industries are owned and managed by the workers.'"

Integral nationalism: "Integral nationalism is a type of nationalism[1][2][3] opposed to risorgimento nationalism. Whereas risorgimento nationalism applies to a nation seeking to establish a liberal state (for example the Risorgimento in Italy and similar movements in Greece, Germany, Poland, Japan in the 19th century or civic nationalism e.g. American nationalism), integral nationalism results after a nation has achieved independence and has already established a state. Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy, according to Alter and Brown, were examples of integral nationalism. Some of the qualities that characterise integral nationalism are anti-individualism, statism (plans by the few ideology), radical extremism, and aggressive expansionist militarism.

Integral nationalism arises in countries where a strong military ethos has become entrenched through the independence struggle, when, once independence is achieved, it is believed that a strong military is required to ensure the security and viability of the new state. Also, the success of such a liberation struggle results in feelings of national superiority that may lead to extreme nationalism.

Integral states are totalitarian and the government or state dominates all aspects of society. Mussolini's Italy can be the first example of such a society. Integral nationalism often overlaps in places with fascism."

Sounds like total garbage crypto leftism to me. Race and blood is the most important part, if you remove that you have nothing. Economy doesnt even matter for an ideology its just a means to an end. Not even spain is brown enough to justify such a negligence.

Social justice is something we hate and you'd know that if you weren't a leftypol autist. Read a book.

The idea behind syndicalism is that all businesses in a particular industry are collectivezed into one big massive workers coop, and the union for that particular industry is in charge of running the workers coop.

White means white. Moors are not white. Moors invaded spain, and mixed with the formerly white Spanish. They are no longer white. Being from Europe does not mean youre white.

Pic related is not a white man, despite being Greek. Greeks were also white, until they were made part of the Ottoman empire proper for an extended period.

And you would be pro social justice if you worked in a blue collar job and see how worn-out people are due to terrible working conditions while the bosses are all smiling and healthy just because they inherited money and lands.

I didnt say Mediterraneans werent white. I said Italians, Spanish and Greeks were white, and then were mixed out in the same form of white genocide were all being subjected to now. You mix with Tunisians, Algerians, Moroccans, and Turks.. youre not longer white, its simple science. George Lincoln Rockwell wouldnt call a Turkish rape baby a white man, he would reference the farmer who breeds cattle. Thats 2 different breeds.

Well, that final statement was a little too sweeping. Large numbers of them. North italians, many Greeks and Northern Spanish are still white.

He's a bit incorrect.

Read:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falangism#Nationalism_and_racialism

On German National-Socialism:

(February 17, 1935, at the Alhambra Cinema, Zaragoza)

It is necessary to examine with a lot of deliberation the two attempts [at totalitarian government] essayed thus far: Italian fascism and German national-socialism, and point out the differences that may exist between both ideological movements. The Italian movement is above all classical; it tends to the classical. It operates subject to a way of thinking, to a framework of the mind. A brain is at work and the result is projected onto a people.

The German case is entirely opposite. It starts from a Romantic faith, from a race's capacity for divination. Hence it is fair to affirm that Hitlerism is a mystical movement, very much tuned to the German psyche. Moreover Germany is not, as believe those fond of broad generalizations, the country of discipline, despite appearing to be so outwardly. The Germans are a very special people. They sing very well together in choral groups, they march to the same martial step; but every movement of indiscipline, of rebellion in the world, reminiscent of Spartacus, originated in Germany.

So, an enforced monopoly on every trade?

Sounds like marxist socialism to me. Economically speaking it's trash, would slay the economy, and doesn't actually capture or solve the problems of capitalism .

And from what it sounds so far, socially - the far more important aspect its cuckservative at best and leftist cancer at its most likely.
Get out leftypol.

Even Hitler did that according to this rules

No, it's more complicated than that. First, those differences go back to the Romans. It's not like canada with whites, mudslims, niggers and gooks from a few centuries: we are talking about 3000 years of wars, invasions both from north and south, slaves both from north and south et ceptera.
There is some sense of Italian identity, which is very strong. Something that niggers in the USA don't have. Second, all this groups interbred. Many heavy differences are gone. Third, southeners and sardinians were the ones who.got.hit more heavily.but.muslims invaders. Those people really hate muslims and niggers, and bravely.fought against them. Fourth, southeners who migrated to north italy (and were a lot) didn't took their problems (mafia, crimes etc) with them and both IQ tests and scholastic results were identical to northerners. This doesn't happen with spics and niggers, because they truly are different races, while people in Italy are not. More like two variety of the same breed (something which happens to many dogs, look at.kurzhaars and draathars)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/José_Antonio_Primo_de_Rivera#Ideology

How does it sound like Marxism?

The Spanish Nationalists actually defeated the reds/anarchists unlike Germany. It's one reason it's never really mentioned in the U.S.

Lots of buzzwords, no substance. As a general rule of thumb, anyone talking about "destroying capitalism" is some flavour of marxist, because acknowledging capitalism is even a thing involves buying into Marx's retarded linear history model.

Again, how does it sound like Marxism?

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Could be a Spaniard thing. Every job I've ever worked here in little old Idaho the bosses worked right alongside the employees; different tasks, of course, but they were not sitting around. If that's a big issue there, I do recommend unionization, although I don't see how syndicalism will take you there, because syndicalism just sounds like redistribution of wealth, and a man only objectively needs enough to survive day to day.

No end in sight, apparently.

Yeah that totally had nothing to do with the English puppet king of Italy. All Mussolini right? Not royalty and friends of royalty making up the officer rank, no just the guy who was given a heavily divided country rife with corruption and a near useless military. He and Gentile had many good ideas but the royalty was a major hindrance. Invading Greece was kinda dumb though, even though it's intent was to distract British troops away from their African colonies

Because they took Marxism and put a "national" in front of it.

He wasn't. Way to link fucking wikipedia you pleb. "My IQ is too low to explain my arguments so here read this thing I haven't read myself".
Good genetic stock is the absolute pillar of any nation. Niggers will never be civilized humans, open a fucking biology book and deal with it.

Fuck off commie, I AM working class. Communism fixes nothing, not only because its trash, but because it aims to "fix" the wrong thing. Labour and work is something to take pride in, its clear from your manner of speech you are fucking girly commie shits that are afraid to get their hands dirty and look down on workers. Your ideology is literally a jewish trick, get out.

The same could be said about National-socialism

So, are you a troll, or did you not hear about the Reconquista and expulsion of the Muslims and Jews? Fun fact: some cities and villages down south, the ones which had been founded by Muslims and where they had lived the longer, were left so empty of people they had to import northern Europeans to repopulate them. Even today you have isolated villages with German surnames.
Metapedia had a collection of DNA maps, which I won't post because I am on mobile, which show to which little extent the ocupation affected the current genetic makeup.

Thin ice bro, you ignored the reply to the first link, and thats pro-jewish sentiment youre pushing. Also, the goal of cultural marxism is to mix whites with non whites and create a single race of brown people. Dont push for that bullshit, thats not okay. Sicilians are not white. Southern Italians to a large extent are not white. They are hybrids, theres no subjective garbage to be put into the mix. They are mixed in the same way many Greeks are mixed with Turks, and southern Spanish are mixed with Moors. Some people believe in the single drop rule, but beyond that, they are visibly not the same race. Its a hybrid, they would not qualify for race laws. Their population was wiped out, largely.

Very few people living in Sicily would pass as white. The man I linked above is not 7/8th white.

Indeed.

Did i ever said anything about being a communist or looking down on workers and manual labour.

I DO respect manual labour but unfortunately most people don't. Both left AND right

They were attacking France before they were pushed out. They thoroughly interfered with the genetic makeup of nearly the entire peninsula.

Unlike national socialism, right?

You're the one that's unfamiliar with it so I simply gave you a primer. If spitting vulgarities gives you the impression that you're right then I can't imagine you genetic stock being that sought after.

Also, regarding biology, the Spanish were proponents of eugenics. It's amazing what research can do for one's mind.

No, just like national socialism.

Sorry, I forgot about Savoias. Well, in reality I didn't. They were scum and were I live they were cancer. They raised the taxes by a 300% rate, which was many times more than the barely living necessity and sent em all to Rothschild's banks. I have many reasons to speak against them. However, during the Fascist era, the king was a cuck faggot who almost did nothing. There is a reason if mussolini was called Duce, he was the true king and everybody knew it

I knew a Sicilian guy who would call other Sicilians niggers.

There's been some literature on that subject. While there was definetly some mixing, there was also quite a bit of segregation in Al-Andalus. Plus, Reconquista, expulsion, Spanish Inquisition and a bunch of other shenanigans happened in the meantime.
Look up this book
amazon.com/Myth-Andalusian-Paradise-Christians-Medieval/dp/1610170954
It has lots of info on daily life in Al-Andalus. The image of happy multicultural andalusians and mozarabs, while existing, was not the case most of the time.

I will.

I don't agree with your setence. There's plenty of "civilized" black people, once they get their shit together in african and find their own thing there won't be more problems

Same 2 IP's. You are leftypol shills undeserving of courtesy. Your sophistry doesn't fool anyone.

You are literally suggesting implementing economic communism, and some cuckservative/center leftist social policy. Whatever the fuck you want to identify as you sure as hell don't belong here.

Denying race is a thing makes you an absolute idiot to boot,get out.

Yeah, I didn't read the reply. I'm mobileposting. That reply and your pic is right. However, your reply is wrong. If I put half a cup of water in a half a cup of tea, is a mix. If a put alf a cup of tea in the Mediterranean sea, it remains the mediterranean sea. It's simply quantity and time. Also IQ tests don't lie. Don't fell.for the race is skin color meme

The economy requires a degree of free market to function. NS handles this by tethering it to mercantile rather than replacing it outright. This stuff sounds more like communism light. Unions bleed a country dry, $60 an hour screw driver turners are the reason manufacturing fled the country as drastically as it did.

Yeah the top 5% of niggers can function in our society, very impressive and whatnot but its still parasitism basically. Blacks as a collective will never be civilized since their average IQ is close to down syndrome.

Same 2 IPs? No need to lie. Also, whoever said I denied race. It's very real. Never did I say I was a falangist. I was just trying to explain something to a liar such as yourself.

Aight, what's it about? :^)

Wow, sounds fantastic! :^)

You seem to be deeply confused or very misinformed at the political conclusions this board largely centered around prior to Trump election season.

You are not in good company here. Consider leaving.

Sicilians are not a sea of Italian with a cup of Tunisia. As I said, that man is not 7/8ths white. Youre swimming in a brown sea which smells like coffee beans at this point, and trying to say its normal.

Race is not skin color but skin color is indicative of race.

See these pic relateds? Thats what jews look like. If you have a Jewish grandfather, youre a jew. Sicilians are so mixed that its not even like they can identify as X being non white and Y being white. They are all brown, the entire populations genetic makeup was destroyed, or almost all of it. The further south, the worse it is. Sicily itself being the absolute worst, being its own island split from Southern Italy without a fresh supply of white blood, but with plenty of non-whites flooding it over the ages.

Why do people like you feel the need to lie?

Related, Spanish "Marxism" according to you:

So the left ate itself? What a shock.

top kek. No one tell him. Let them keep outing themself.

NatSoc is not marxist socialism you absolute inbred. Nobody here wants to abolish capitalism. Poor astroturfing attempt.

Free markets, eh?

Did you mean IDs? Because even then you're wrong. You really are a sneaky kike.

No one said it was. You were the one asserting what is and isn't "communism" or "cuckservatism" [hint: you've got it backwards on this one], or "left wing social policy" without elucidating at all on any of it.
You couldn't be more wrong.

Normans were in Sicily, and Germans too. Many Sicilians I saw have fucking red hairs. Also, pre-romans were not indoeuropeans in general, which makes the story way more complicated than racemixing with jews/niggers. Skin color is not indicative of race, if anything is the lowest phenotypical indicator. You have to look to the IQs,.bone structure and many other stuff. I'm.going to bed know, I'll give you a more detailed reply tomorrow if this.thread is still alivr

Just some parts from their 27 point plan. Sound like good old fascists/3rd positionists to me but as always brain-dead Mises tier drones will call them Marxists, as we can observe through this very thread, surprise, surprise.

8. The National-Syndicalist State will permit all kinds of private initiative that are compatible
with the collective interest, and it will also protect and encourage the profitable ones.

ECONOMY –LABOUR –CLASS STRUGGLE

9. Our conception of Spain in the economic realm is that of a gigantic syndicate of producers.
We shall organize Spanish society corporatively through a system of vertical syndicates for the
various field of production, all working toward national economic unity.

10. We repudiate the capitalistic system which shows no understanding of the needs of the
people, dehumanizes private property, and causes workers to be lumped together in a shapeless, miserable mass of people who are filled with desperation. Our spiritual and national conception of life also repudiates Marxism. We shall redirect the impetuousness of those working classes who today are led astray by Marxism, and we shall seek to bring them into direct participation in fulfilling the great task of the national state.

11. The National-Syndicalist State will not cruelly stand apart from man’s economic struggles,
nor watch impassively while the strongest class dominates the weakest. Our regime will eliminate the very roots of class struggle, because all who work together in production shall comprise one single organic entity. We reject and we shall prevent at all costs selfish interests from abusing others, and we shall halt anarchy in the field of labor relations.

12. The first duty of wealth-and our State shall so affirm-is to better the conditions of the people. It is intolerable that enormous masses of people should live wretchedly while a small number enjoy all kinds of luxuries.

13. The State will recognize private property as a legitimate means for achieving individual, family, and social goals, and will protect it against the abuses of large-scale finance capital, speculators, and money lenders.

14. We shall support the trend toward nationalization of banking services and, through a system of Corporations, the great public utilities.

15. All Spaniards have the right to work. Public agencies must of necessity provide support for those who find themselves in desperate straits. As we proceed toward a totally new structure, we shall maintain and strengthen all the advantages that existing social legislation gives to workers.

16. Unless they are disabled, all Spaniards have the duty to work. The National-Syndicalist State will not give the slightest consideration to those who fail to perform some useful function and who try to live as drones at the expense of the labor of the majority of people.

Spain and Portugal don't have jews anymore. Even those who converted to christianism in the XIXth century completely abandoned their ways and you can find people of jewish descent in Iberia who don't know what a jew is. I bet they would think they are some kind of muslims or something (or those people in WWII movies).

That's why i think that the best way to defeat a jew is to make him believe that he's no longer a jew

Having one government issued brand of soap leads only to an unwashed population.

I did.

Jews are smart too. It doesnt mean they are white, or compatible with our society.

I enjoy a good quip but they're hardly proof of anything besides cleverness.

You really do have a thick skull.

Why do idiots like you still insist that politcs and economics are the same thing? Why do you want to rob everybody of economic freedoms, instead of just swindlers and parasites? Why do you still cling to a materialistic worldview? Fucking leftists, get the fuck out and study the occult.

I mean look at this trash
It all points to the same old story, man is an economic entity (t. Marx), man is just another animal, existence is futile. Go fucking drown you autistic fucking faggot.

The socialism of Nazi Germany

1) Take the money of the rich
2) Run out of that money
3) ration food
4) Quell concern by running propaganda campaigns about how hard times will make us strong - "Guns not butter".
5) Use your military to invade other countries and take their resources
6) Continue doing this until you go down in a blaze of glory

Price controls have caused rationing everywhere, no exceptions.

Look to any communist country and see the breadlines. People died from this, and everyone had to do without, except for the elite ruling class. What we saw was a unilateral deterioration in quality of life for all working class people.

It's a failed economic model.

Does this upset you, Chaim?

Anyways, IQ tests are largely subjective. Brain weight is a better indicator of intellectual potential. White is white though, brown people are not white. To suggest they are would be marxist drivel. White is white. Jews arent even white.

A jew who mixes with a white person, and then their child mixes with the child of 2 other white people, the child of those 2 children would still be Jewish, and not white. Jews are not white. 1/4 Jews are not white just as much as a quadroon isnt.

I never said rob people of economic freedoms. See pic.

Except that never happened. Free markets are an abstract just like anything regarding freedom, inb4 that's not real capitalism.

It's not a long term strategy.

God damn jews, at least be honest.

Rationing happened. Socialism never works.

Looks good for the most part.
I am suspicious of that. Classes exist for a reason, after all, and it's generally a matter of applied talent, rather than lottery.

The two points contradict each other. There will always be separate classes because some, even within the same race, are morons and others are not. I would recommend dismissing the class struggle and focusing on racial homogenity; that's the most important of all, since class is a result of hard work and talent (most of the time) while race is unchangeable, and so needs to be resolved right off the bat.

Read this>>9284075

So, are you going to ignore that the NSDAP had Spanish nationalists fight alongside them during WW2? I'm sure they had a superior vetting process compared to your lack of information regarding most things.

Last thing before going to bed

Rationing due to wars and not because of the system. It's of no surprise that it took the communists and capitalists to united to crush them.

They had mudslimes niggers and hebeebs as well, this doesn't really exonerate any of these peoples.

The sooner you figure it out that "right wing" Americans are enemies of nationalism and don't actually oppose jewish control of society, the sooner you'll make sense of the posts you're responding to.

You clearly can't fucking read then you Jew.

The system is rigged.
It's way harder for a lower class citizen to achieve success rather than a rich\upper-middle class citizen

No, it isn't. A bigger brain means you are better at stuff, but what stuff? Different parts of the brain do different things.

Arctic Asians like Eskimos have the biggest brains, but part of that brain matter is not particularly useful for modern society, it's thought to be related to navigation.

Altough I like Falangism as well there is no need to countersignal Franco so hard. He loved his country and life under his rule was a lot better than it is now.
t. Spaniard

Yea, crossbreeds. Thats not white.

Youre effectively arguing that almost all of the people in pic related are "white" and "European" Dont do that. Visibly not white, youre not white.

The Falange, as well as all fascists are in favor of class collaboration and reject the notion of class struggle, they have no desire to abolish classes.

See above

No. This isn't different to what the National Socialists proposed. The notion of nationalization was not dismissed and was enacted for certain business which did not advance the nation's interests. This is exactly what Hitler practiced.

No, rationing happened long before war started.

Price controls create rationing. Only Marx disagrees.

Are you suggesting this shouldn't be the case? Should the government be allowed to forcefully take your wealth, robbing your children of their advantage and then redistribute that wealth to people of no relation to you who will then go on to compete against your children?

It indicates you have a higher intellectual potential. Youre going to get banned if you keep trying to blur the lines between races.

So Eskimos are the master race? Who would have thought.

I'm suggesting that a minority shouldn't rule over a majority.
I'm saying that everyone should be able to have a fresh start with good schools and education.

You're asking for more than that, and you know it.

Yeah, under Franco not the cucks you are shilling.

All you subhumans in this thread said "we are against focusing on race and targeting jews". How exactly are you a friend of nationalism you fucking kike? Communism/marxism was made by jews to secure a country as heaven for their parasitical rule.

Gas chambers for all of them or nothing. Same with their brown pets. You seem to be against that so you are a leftist/cuckservative. Couldnt care less what economic system you think is best to use after the purge happens, since your iq ammounts to that of a fucking vegetable and you couldnt ever fucking plan the infrastructure of a country.

They all look like they are 50% gook like fuck if you're gonna be all mixed up try to be less than 50% gook.

Not really
I'm just asking for people to be given a fair chance.

Not having to pay for private schools and tutors to have a good education.

No sources.
Cherrypicking.
Lying by omission.
Suggesting intellect is the only determining factor in the value of a race.

Hurr durr cuz jews are dumb amirite? No, jews are smart, but they are parasites, and not white. Get banned, marxist.

If they want a better advantage they can earn it, I will not have mine taken from me and given to someone else. Build a stronger family unit and manage your finances at a mutigenerational level and you won't need these kinds of handouts.

Having good schools and education for everyone is a handout?

This is entirely natural. Yes, if I manage to master my software engineering and become particularly successful, then I'm going to pass those rewards onto my children, even if they're total dodos.
Now let's assume the inverse and that I'm a failure of a software engineer. I can still relate to the wealthy of my race, but I cannot relate to the poor of different races, even if I'm poor myself.
Simply put, I am poor, my family is poor and has been poor for generations, but I'm not concerned about wealth nearly as much as I am about racial preservation and distinction since it would be like living around extended family all the time, and not racial aliens with whom I share no common ground.

Schools don't matter. Voucher studies have shown that.

If your IQ is high you will get good grades.

There was mass rationing long before Hitler came into power you dumb nigger, and that was because of the mass unemployment and debt the nation had. In relation to price controls, literally every nation, including the U.S. and the U.K. had price controls you dumb nigger.

The Eskimos only relatively recently inhabited that area, so no.

Going hard with the kike d&c I see. Here's some evidence proving you wrong.

Yes, who the fuck is paying for it? I don't mind shelling out for the absolute best for my kids, but I'll be damned if I'm going to pay for more than the barest minimum for anybody else's.

Hello Max Stirner

You're a fucking dumbass.
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How Hitler Tackled Unemployment
And Revived Germany’s Economy

By Mark Weber

To deal with the massive unemployment and economic paralysis of the Great Depression, both the US and German governments launched innovative and ambitious programs. Although President Franklin Roosevelt’s “New Deal” measures helped only marginally, the Third Reich’s much more focused and comprehensive policies proved remarkably effective. Within three years unemployment was banished and Germany’s economy was flourishing. And while Roosevelt’s record in dealing with the Depression is pretty well known, the remarkable story of how Hitler tackled the crisis is not widely understood or appreciated.

Adolf Hitler became Chancellor of Germany on January 30, 1933. A few weeks later, on March 4, Franklin Roosevelt took office as President of the United States. Each man remained his country’s chief executive for the next twelve years – until April 1945, shortly before the end of World War II in Europe. In early 1933 industrial production in each country had fallen to about half of what it had been in 1929. Each leader quickly launched bold new initiatives to tackle the terrible economic crisis, above all the scourge of mass unemployment. And although there are some striking similarities between the efforts of the two governments, the results were very different.

One of the most influential and widely read American economists of the twentieth century was John Kenneth Galbraith. He was an advisor to several presidents, and for a time served as US ambassador to India. He was the author of several dozen books, and for years taught economics at Harvard University. With regard to Germany’s record, Galbraith wrote: “… The elimination of unemployment in Germany during the Great Depression without inflation – and with initial reliance on essential civilian activities – was a signal accomplishment. It has rarely been praised and not much remarked. The notion that Hitler could do no good extends to his economics as it does, more plausibly, to all else.”

The Hitler regime’s economic policy, Galbraith goes on, involved “large scale borrowing for public expenditures, and at first this was principally for civilian work – railroads, canals and the Autobahnen [highway network]. The result was a far more effective attack on unemployment than in any other industrial country.” / 1 “By late 1935,” he also wrote, “unemployment was at an end in Germany. By 1936 high income was pulling up prices or making it possible to raise them … Germany, by the late thirties, had full employment at stable prices. It was, in the industrial world, an absolutely unique achievement.” / 2 “Hitler also anticipated modern economic policy,” the economist noted, “by recognizing that a rapid approach to full employment was only possible if it was combined with wage and price controls. That a nation oppressed by economic fears would respond to Hitler as Americans did to F.D.R. is not surprising.” / 3

Other countries, Galbraith wrote, failed to understand or to learn from the German experience: “The German example was instructive but not persuasive. British and American conservatives looked at the Nazi financial heresies – the borrowing and spending – and uniformly predicted a breakdown … And American liberals and British socialists looked at the repression, the destruction of the unions, the Brownshirts, the Blackshirts, the concentration camps, and screaming oratory, and ignored the economics. Nothing good [they believed], not even full employment, could come from Hitler.” / 4

Who said this? You can go ahead and click my ID number and it will highlight whatever you need highlighted and you can provide the exact quote and post you're referring to. That would be helpful.
No one is arguing for communism. You seem to be deeply ignorant of what National Socialism entails, though. It isn't Reaganomics minus jews.
Uh, okay.
Where are you getting this? Again, linking a post or providing a quote would be helpful for those you are speaking with understand where you draw your conclusions from.
That's not the impression I'm getting from you, but okay.
I'll let this one speak for itself.

Two days after taking office as Chancellor, Hitler addressed the nation by radio. Although he and other leaders of his movement had made clear their intention to reorganize the nation’s social, political, cultural and educational life in accord with National Socialist principles, everyone knew that, with some six million jobless and the national economy in paralysis, the great priority of the moment was to restore the nation’s economic life, above all by tackling unemployment and providing productive work.

“The misery of our people is horrible to behold!,” said Hitler in this inaugural address. / 5 “Along with the hungry unemployed millions of industrial workers there is the impoverishment of the whole middle class and the artisans. If this collapse finally also finishes off the German farmers we will face a catastrophe of incalculable dimension. For that would be not just the collapse of a nation, but of a two-thousand-year-old inheritance of some of the greatest achievements of human culture and civilization …”

The new government, Hitler said, would “achieve the great task of reorganizing our nation’s economy by means of two great four-year plans. The German farmer must be rescued to maintain the nation’s food supply and, in consequence, the nation’s vital foundation. The German worker will be saved from ruin with a concerted and all-embracing attack against unemployment.”

“Within four years,” he pledged, “unemployment must be decisively overcome … The Marxist parties and their allies have had 14 years to show what they can do. The result is a heap of ruins. Now, people of Germany, give us four years and then pass judgment upon us!”

Rejecting the cloudy and impractical economic views of some radical activists in his Party, Hitler turned to men of proven ability and competence. Most notably, he enlisted the help of Hjalmar Schacht, a prominent banker and financier with an impressive record in both private business and public service. Even though Schacht was certainly no National Socialist, Hitler appointed him President of Germany’s central bank, the Reichsbank, and then as Minister of Economics.

After taking power, writes Prof. John Garraty, a prominent American historian, Hitler and his new government “immediately launched an all-out assault on unemployment … They stimulated private industry through subsidies and tax rebates, encouraged consumer spending by such means as marriage loans, and plunged into the massive public-works program that produced the autobahn [highway system], and housing, railroad and navigation projects.” / 6

The regime’s new leaders also succeeded in persuading formerly skeptical and even hostile Germans of their sincerity, resolve and ability. This fostered trust and confidence, which in turn encouraged businessmen to hire and invest, and consumers to spend with an eye to the future.

As he had promised, Hitler and his National Socialist government banished unemployment within four years. The number of jobless was cut from six million at the beginning of 1933, when he took power, to one million by 1936. / 7 So rapidly was the jobless rate reduced that by 1937-38 there was a national labor shortage. / 8

For the great mass of Germans, wages and working conditions improved steadily. From 1932 to 1938 gross real weekly earnings increased by 21 percent. After taking into account tax and insurance deductions and adjustments to the cost of living, the increase in real weekly earnings during this period was 14 percent. At the same time, rents remained stable, and there was a relative decline in the costs of heating and light. Prices actually declined for some consumer goods, such as electrical appliances, clocks and watches, as well as for some foods. "Consumer prices rose at an average annual rate of just 1.2 percent between 1933 and 1939," notes British historian Niall Ferguson. "This meant that Germans workers were better off in real as well as nominal terms: between 1933 and 1938, weekly net earnings (after tax) rose by 22 percent, while the cost of living rose by just seven percent." Even after the outbreak of war in September 1939, workers’ income continued to rise. By 1943 average hourly earnings of German workers had risen by 25 percent, and weekly earnings by 41 percent. / 9

The “normal” work day for most Germans was eight hours, and pay for overtime work was generous. / 10 In addition to higher wages, benefits included markedly improved working conditions, such as better health and safety conditions, canteens with subsidized hot meals, athletic fields, parks, subsidized theater performances and concerts, exhibitions, sports and hiking groups, dances, adult education courses, and subsidized tourism. / 11 An already extensive network of social welfare programs, including old age insurance and a national health care program, was expanded.

Hitler wanted Germans to have “the highest possible standard of living,” he said in an interview with an American journalist in early 1934. “In my opinion, the Americans are right in not wanting to make everyone the same but rather in upholding the principle of the ladder. However, every single person must be granted the opportunity to climb up the ladder.” / 12 In keeping with this outlook, Hitler’s government promoted social mobility, with wide opportunities to improve and advance. As Prof. Garraty notes: “It is beyond argument that the Nazis encouraged working-class social and economic mobility.” To encourage acquisition of new skills, the government greatly expanded vocational training programs, and offered generous incentives for further advancement of efficient workers. / 13

Both National Socialist ideology and Hitler’s basic outlook, writes historian John Garraty, “inclined the regime to favor the ordinary German over any elite group. Workers … had an honored place in the system.” In accord with this, the regime provided substantive fringe benefits for workers that included subsidized housing, low-cost excursions, sports programs, and more pleasing factory facilities. / 14

Dirty commie shills show their true nature once again. If someone is born poor he can easily become rich if he is smart or hard working, even today, let alone after we purge anti-white policy. This is you refusing to accept heirarchy to benefit your inferior nature.

The fact is that poor people are poor because they are stupid, and their parents are poor because they are stupid. Its genetic. Say it out loud for me. GENETIC. Nothing wrong with earning a workers salary by your hands either, you fucking hipster liberal champagne socialist pansy bitch.
Natsoc Germany had it just right. Anything else you should gtfo.

In his detailed and critical biography of Hitler, historian Joachim Fest acknowledged: “The regime insisted that it was not the rule of one social class above all others, and by granting everyone opportunities to rise, it in fact demonstrated class neutrality … These measures did indeed break through the old, petrified social structures. They tangibly improved the material condition of much of the population.” / 15

A few figures give an idea of how the quality of life improved. Between 1932, the last year of the pre-Hitler era, and 1938, the last full year before the outbreak of war, food consumption increased by one sixth, while clothing and textile turnover increased by more than a quarter, and of furniture and household goods by 50 percent. / 16 During the Third Reich’s peacetime years, wine consumption rose by 50 percent, and champagne consumption increased five-fold. / 17 Between 1932 and 1938, the volume of tourism more than doubled, while automobile ownership during the 1930s tripled. / 18 German motor vehicle production, which included cars made by the US-owned Ford and General Motors (Opel) works, doubled in the five years of 1932 to 1937, while Germany’s motor vehicle exports increased eight-fold. Air passenger traffic in Germany more than tripled from 1933 to 1937. / 19

German business revived and prospered. During the first four years of the National Socialist era, net profits of large corporations quadrupled, and managerial and entrepreneurial income rose by nearly 50 percent. / 20 Between 1933 and 1938, notes historian Niall Ferguson, Germany's "gross domestic product grew, on average, by a remarkable eleven percent a year," with no significant increase in the rate of inflation. / 21 “Things were to get even better,” writes Jewish historian Richard Grunberger in his detailed study, The Twelve-Year Reich. “In the three years between 1939 and 1942 German industry expanded as much as it had during the preceding fifty years.” / 20

Although German businesses flourished, profits were controlled and by law were kept within moderate limits. / 21 Beginning in 1934, dividends for stockholders of German corporations were limited to six percent annually. Undistributed profits were invested in Reich government bonds, which had an annual interest yield of six percent, and then, after 1935, of four and a half percent. This policy had the predictable effect of encouraging corporate reinvestment and self-financing, and thereby of reducing borrowing from banks and, more generally, of diminishing the influence of commercial capital. / 22

Corporation tax rates were steadily raised, from 20 percent in 1934 to 25 percent in 1936, and to 40 percent in 1939-40. Directors of German companies could grant bonuses to managers, but only if these were directly proportionate to profits and they also authorized corresponding bonuses or “voluntary social contributions” to employees. / 23

Between 1934 and 1938, the gross taxable income of German businessmen increased by 148 percent, and overall tax volume increased during this period by 232 percent. The number of taxpayers in the highest income tax bracket – those earning more than 100,000 marks annually – increased during this period by 445 percent. (By contrast, the number of taxpayers in the lowest income bracket – those earning less than 1500 marks yearly – increased by only five percent.) / 24

Taxation in National Socialist Germany was sharply “progressive,” with those of higher income paying proportionately more than those in the lower income brackets. Between 1934 and 1938, the average tax rate on incomes of more than 100,000 marks rose from 37.4 percent to 38.2 percent. In 1938 Germans in the lowest tax brackets were 49 percent of the population and had 14 percent of the national income, but paid only 4.7 percent of the tax burden. Those in the highest income category, who were just one percent of the population but with 21 percent of the income, paid 45 percent of the tax burden. / 25

Jews made up about one percent of Germany’s total population when Hitler came to power. While the new government moved quickly to remove them from the nation’s political and cultural life, Jews were permitted to carry on in economic life, at least for several years. In fact, many Jews benefited from the regime’s recovery measures and the general economic revival. In June 1933, for example, Hitler approved a large-scale government investment of 14.5 million marks in the Jewish-owned firm Hertie, a Berlin department store chain. This “bail out” was done to prevent the ruin of the large firm’s suppliers, financiers, and, above all, its 14,000 employees. / 26

Prof. Gordon Craig, who for years taught history at Stanford University, points out: “In the clothing and retail trades, Jewish firms continued to operate profitably until 1938, and in Berlin and Hamburg, in particular, establishments of known reputation and taste continued to attract their old customers despite their ownership by Jews. In the world of finance, no restrictions were placed upon the activities of Jewish firms in the Berlin Bourse [stock market], and until 1937 the banking houses of Mendelssohn, Bleichröder, Arnhold, Dreyfuss, Straus, Warburg, Aufhäuser, and Behrens were still active.” / 27 Five years after Hitler had come to power, the Jewish role in business life was still a significant one, and Jews still held considerable real estate holdings, especially in Berlin. This changed markedly in 1938, however, and by the end of 1939 Jews had been largely removed from German economic life.

Germany’s crime rate fell during the Hitler years, with significant drops in the rates of murder, robbery, theft, embezzlement and petty larceny. / 28 Improvement in the health and outlook of Germans impressed many foreigners. “Infant mortality has been greatly reduced and is considerably inferior to that in Great Britain,” wrote Sir Arnold Wilson, a British M.P. who visited Germany seven times after Hitler had come to power. “Tuberculosis and other diseases have noticeably diminished. The criminal courts have never had so little to do and the prisons have never had so few occupants. It is a pleasure to observe the physical aptitude of the German youth. Even the poorest persons are better clothed than was formerly the case, and their cheerful faces testify to the psychological improvement that has been wrought within them.” / 29

The improved psychological-emotional well-being of Germans during this period has also been noted by social historian Richard Grunberger. “There can be little doubt,” he wrote, “that the [National Socialist] seizure of power engendered a wide-spread improvement in emotional health; this was not only a result of the economic upswing, but of many Germans’ heightened sense of identification with the national purpose.” / 30

Austria experienced a dramatic upswing after it joined the German Reich in March 1938. Immediately following the Anschluss (“union”), officials moved quickly to relieve social distress and revitalize the moribund economy. Investment, industrial production, housing construction, consumer spending, tourism and the standard of living rose rapidly. Between June and December 1938 alone, the weekly income of Austria’s industrial workers rose by nine percent. The National Socialist regime’s success in banishing unemployment was so rapid that American historian Evan Burr Bukey was moved to call it “one of the most remarkable economic achievements in modern history.” The jobless rate in Austria dropped from 21.7 percent in 1937 to 3.2 percent in 1939. The Austrian GNP rose 12.8 percent in 1938, and an astonishing 13.3 percent in 1939. / 31

An important expression of national confidence was a sharp increase in the birth rate. Within a year after Hitler came to power, the German birth rate jumped by 22 percent, rising to a high point in 1938. It remained high even in 1944 – the last full year of World War II. / 32 In the view of historian John Lukacs, this jump in the birth rate was an expression of “the optimism and the confidence” of Germans during the Hitler years. “For every two children born in Germany in 1932, three were born four years later,” he notes. “In 1938 and 1939, the highest marriage rates in all of Europe were registered in Germany, superseding even those among the prolific peoples of Eastern Europe. The phenomenal rise of the German birthrate in the thirties was even steeper than the rise of the marriage rate.” / 33 “National Socialist Germany, alone among countries peopled by whites, succeeded in attaining some increase in fertility,” notes the outstanding Scottish-born American historian Gordon A. Craig, with a sharp rise in the birth rate after Hitler came to power, and a steady increase in the years that followed. / 34

In a lengthy address to the Reichstag in early 1937, Hitler recalled the pledges he had made when his government assumed power. He also explained the principles on which his policies were based, and looked back at what had been accomplished in four years. / 35 “… Those who talk about 'democracies’ and ‘dictatorships’,” he said, “simply do not understand that a revolution has been carried out in this country, the results of which can be considered democratic in the highest sense of the term, if democracy has any real meaning … The National Socialist Revolution has not aimed at turning a privileged class into a class that will have no rights in the future. Its aim has been to give equal rights to those who had no rights … Our objective has been to make it possible for the whole German people to be active, not only in the economic but also in the political field, and to secure this by organizationally involving the masses … During the past four years we have increased German production in all areas to an extraordinary degree. And this increase in production has been to the benefit of all Germans.”

In another address two years later, Hitler spoke briefly about his regime’s economic achievement: / 36 “I overcame chaos in Germany, restored order, enormously raised production in all fields of our national economy, by strenuous efforts produced substitutes for numerous materials that we lack, encouraged new inventions, developed traffic, caused mighty roads to be built and canals to be dug, called into being gigantic factories, and at the same time endeavored to further the education and culture of our people for the development of our social community. I succeeded in finding useful work once more for the whole of the seven million unemployed, who so touched all our hearts, in keeping the German farmer on his soil in spite of all difficulties, and in saving the land itself for him, in restoring a prosperous German trade, and in promoting traffic to the utmost.”

It’s often been claimed, even by some supposedly reputable scholars, that Hitler’s success in reviving his nation’s economic life was based largely on government spending for rearmament and preparation for war. This is a myth. As the renowned British historian A. J. P. Taylor noted: / 37 “Germany’s economic recovery, which was complete by 1936, did not rest on rearmament; it was caused mainly by lavish expenditure on public works, particularly on motor roads, and this public spending stimulated private spending also, as [British economist John Maynard] Keynes had said it would. Hitler actually skimped on armaments, despite his boasting, partly because he wished to avoid the unpopularity which a reduction of the German standard of living would cause, but more from the confident belief that he would always succeed in bluff. Thus, paradoxically, while nearly everyone else in Europe expected a great war, Hitler was the one man who neither expected nor planned for it.”

American historian John Garraty compared the American and German responses to the Great Depression in a much-discussed article published in the American Historical Review. He wrote: / 38 “The two movements [that is, in the US and in Germany] nevertheless reacted to the Great Depression in similar ways, distinct from those of other industrial nations. Of the two the Nazis were the more successful in curing the economic ills of the 1930s. They reduced unemployment and stimulated industrial production faster than the Americans did and, considering their resources, handled their monetary and trade problems more successfully, certainly more imaginatively. This was partly because the Nazis employed deficit financing on a larger scale and partly because their totalitarian system better lent itself to the mobilization of society, both by force and by persuasion. By 1936 the depression was substantially over in Germany, far from finished in the United States.”

In fact, the jobless rate in the United States remained high until the stimulation of large-scale war production took hold. Even as late as March 1940, the US unemployment rate was still almost 15 percent of the work force. It was production for war, not Roosevelt’s “New Deal’ programs, that finally brought full employment. / 39

Prof. William Leuchtenburg, a prominent American historian known best for his books on the life and career of Franklin Roosevelt, summed up the President’s mixed record in a highly acclaimed study. “The New Deal left many problems unsolved and even created some perplexing new ones,” concluded Leuchtenburg. “It never demonstrated that it could achieve prosperity in peacetime. As late as 1941, the unemployed still numbered six million, and not until the war year of 1943 did the army of jobless finally disappear.” / 40

The contrast between the German and American economic records during the 1930s is all the more striking when one takes into account that the US had vastly greater natural resource wealth, including large petroleum reserves, as well as a lower population density, and no hostile, well-armed neighbors.

In an address given in December 1941, Hitler himself compared the record of his government and that of President Roosevelt in dealing with the challenge of the world economic crisis. / 41

“Whereas the German Reich experienced an enormous improvement in social, economic, cultural and artistic life in just a few years under National Socialist leadership,” he said, “President Roosevelt was not able to bring about even limited improvements in his own country. This task should have been much easier in the United States, with barely 15 people per square kilometer, as compared to 140 in Germany. If economic prosperity is not possible in that country, it must be the result of either a lack of will by the ruling leadership or the complete incompetence of the men in charge. In just five years, the economic problems were solved in Germany and unemployment was eliminated. During this same period, President Roosevelt enormously increased his country's national debt, devalued the dollar, further disrupted the economy, and maintained the same number of unemployed.”

In another major address given that same year, Hitler compared the social-political-economic systems of the United States, the Soviet Union, and Germany. / 42 “We’ve now gotten to know two [social-political] extremes,” he said. “One is that of the Capitalist states, which use lies, fraud and swindling to deny their peoples the most basic vital rights, and which are concerned entirely with their own financial interests, for which they are ready to sacrifice millions of people. On the other hand we’ve seen [in the Soviet Union] the Communist extreme: a state that’s brought unspeakable misery to millions and millions, and which, following its doctrine, sacrifices the happiness of others. From this [awareness], in my view, there is for all of us only one obligation, namely, to strive more than ever toward our national and socialist ideal … In this [German] state the prevailing principle is not, as in Soviet Russia, the principle of so-called equality, but rather only the principle of justice.”

Could Hitler’s economic policies work in the United States? These policies are probably most workable in countries such as Sweden, Denmark, and the Netherlands, with a well-educated, self-disciplined and ethnically-culturally cohesive population, and a traditionally strong “communitarian” ethos with a correspondingly high level of social trust. Hitler’s economic policies are less applicable in the United States and other societies with an ethnically-culturally diverse population, a markedly individualistic, “laissez-faire” tradition, and a correspondingly weaker “communitarian” spirit. / 43

David Lloyd George — who had been Britain’s prime minister during the First World War – made an extensive tour of Germany in late 1936. In an article published afterwards in a leading London newspaper, the British statesman recounted what he had seen and experienced. / 44

“Whatever one may think of his [Hitler’s] methods,” wrote Lloyd George, “and they are certainly not those of a parliamentary country, there can be no doubt that he has achieved a marvelous transformation in the spirit of the people, in their attitude towards each other, and in their social and economic outlook.

“He rightly claimed at Nuremberg that in four years his movement had made a new Germany. It is not the Germany of the first decade that followed the war — broken, dejected and bowed down with a sense of apprehension and impotence. It is now full of hope and confidence, and of a renewed sense of determination to lead its own life without interference from any influence outside its own frontiers.

“There is for the first time since the war a general sense of security. The people are more cheerful. There is a greater sense of general gaiety of spirit throughout the land. It is a happier Germany. I saw it everywhere, and Englishmen I met during my trip and who knew Germany well were very impressed with the change.”

“This great people,” the seasoned statesman went on to warn, “will work better, sacrifice more, and, if necessary, fight with greater resolution because Hitler asks them to do so. Those who do not comprehend this central fact cannot judge the present possibilities of modern Germany.”

Although prejudice and ignorance have hindered a wider awareness and understanding of Hitler’s economic policies and their impact, his success in economic policy has been acknowledged by historians, including scholars who are generally very critical of the German leader and his regime’s policies.

John Lukacs, a Hungarian-born American historian whose books have generated much comment and praise, has written: “Hitler’s achievements, domestic rather than foreign, during the six [peacetime] years of his leadership of Germany were extraordinary … He brought prosperity and confidence to the Germans, the kind of prosperity that is the result of confidence. The thirties, after 1933, were sunny years for most Germans; something that remained in the memories of an entire generation among them.” / 45

Sebastian Haffner, an influential German journalist and historian who was also a fierce critic of the Third Reich and its ideology, reviewed Hitler’s life and legacy in a much-discussed book. Although his portrayal of the German leader in The Meaning of Hitler is a harsh one, the author all the same writes: / 46

“Among these positive achievements of Hitler the one outshining all others was his economic miracle.” While the rest of the world was still mired in the economic paralysis, Hitler had made “Germany an island of prosperity.” Within three years, Haffner goes on, “crying need and mass hardship had generally turned into modest but comfortable prosperity. Almost equally important: helplessness and hopelessness had given way to confidence and self-assurance. Even more miraculous was the fact that the transition from depression to economic boom had been accomplished without inflation, at totally stable wages and prices … It is difficult to picture adequately the grateful amazement with which the Germans reacted to that miracle, which, more particularly, made vast numbers of German workers switch from the Social Democrats and the Communists to Hitler after 1933. This grateful amazement entirely dominated the mood of the German masses during the 1936 to 1938 period …”

"The scale of the Nazi economic achievement should not be underestimated," concludes Niall Ferguson, a Harvard University professor of history. "It was real and impressive. No other European economy achieved such a rapid recovery … To most people in 1930s Germany it seemed there had been an economic miracle. The Volksgemeinschaft [national community] was more than mere rhetoric; it meant full employment, higher wages, stable prices, reduced poverty, cheap radios (the Volksempfänger) and budget holidays. It is too easily forgotten that there were more holiday camps than concentration camps in Germany between 1935 and 1939. Workers became better trained, farmers saw their incomes rise. Nor were foreigners unimpressed by what was happening. American corporations including Standard Oil, General Motors and IBM all rushed to invest directly in the German economy." / 47

Joachim Fest, another prominent German journalist and historian, reviewed Hitler’s life in an acclaimed and comprehensive biography. “If Hitler had succumbed to an assassination or an accident at the end of 1938,” he wrote, “few would hesitate to call him one of the greatest of German statesmen, the consummator of Germany’s history.” / 48 “No objective observer of the German scene could deny Hitler’s considerable exploits,” noted American historian John Toland. “If Hitler had died in 1937 on the fourth anniversary of his coming to power … he undoubtedly would have gone down as one of the greatest figures in German history. Throughout Europe he had millions of admirers.” / 49

More like "Hello anybody who pays taxes"

Do you deny that Arctic Asians have bigger brains than other races?

This is the position of Lynn, Rushton etc based on the data.

oregonstate.edu/instruct/anth/smith/TimeMach1984.pdf

Never happened

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This is simply not true. I understand there are a lot of you on this board who are extremely corrupt and are only trying to latch onto this movement because you feel your personal wealth is threatened, but you're going to learn very soon that we aren't your running dogs.

No, I'm correct, and not a socialist.

IQ correlates with wealth.

I'll burn it to the ground before I hand it over to communists.

Go back to cuckchan if you can't distinguish the difference between economic and philosophical socialism.

Read this post . Dont try to pretend you aren't here together.
Nowhere did I mention reaganomics. I support NatSoc economy, which was regulated capitalism (having both markets and private property). It had absolutely NOTHING to do with marxist socialist crap.

We have that shit even TODAY you mongoloid idiot. If someone is dumb he is born dumb. Deal with it, you were dealt a poor hand by your parents.

I imagine that's precisely what's going to end up happening because there's no way you're going to muster enough physical support to stay alive from the people you've been selling out to niggers for the last 100 years. It's going to be UCal Berkeley in every city in America and you're going to be that guy on the ground getting brained with a pole or whatever it was.

Right, because I'm the globalist jew here.

Also you talk like a fucking fairy faggot hipster liberal. Youre some 115 iq loser who is just smart enough to have a massive complex, but just dumb enough to never acomplish anything in life and appear as a total fucking joke to me.

de Rivera admired Hitler. Numerous Falange members fought in the Blue Division for Germany, hell, they were the most committed and stayed fighting even after Franco ordered them to withdrawal.

I'm the one who says we shouldn't obsess over race the same way nazis did.
Maybe i'm naive or something but i firmly believe that one's sipirit is his strongest quality. I don't believe in multicultural societies because we have Brazil as an example of how terribly it failed but i do believe that most differences are cultural and not racial.

The importance of having countries with the native population as a majority is in order to assure that the countrie's culture will remain alive and strong. There's no need to stress much more over this issue

Both are a failure.

Okay its really time for you to read some NatSoc literature lol

Okay. I'm not really seeing anything particularly controversial in what he's saying, although I think he's wrong about romanticism being present in the Falange.
It's a post about Spanish fascism, my grandfather is Spanish, I took a look in the thread. The idea that everyone is coordinating against you or whatever it is you think you're defending here is, frankly, insane.
Awesome.
I wouldn't call it regulated capitalism at all, but if you've been conditioned by American education to believe that private property means it's capitalism, then I suppose I can just drop it and accept your rudimentary supposition.
Okay. I don't remember saying that it did, but thanks for asserting that twice now.

I guess all those white voters who gave Trump the W were all just a bunch of dumbasses. I mean, so what if all the jobs are being shipped overseas, your IQ will save you.

Culture and race are tied to each other lad. Just as nigger's will never assimilate into white nations, we will never assimilate into their nations.

It is sad subhumans think they are going to crawl into the shell Europeans would leave behind.

why are you posting on a NatSoc board? If you're just a racist republican go to mpc

lol

lol

Show me a country where it's even possible that money won't be spent on Tyrone.

1) Trump voters were, on average, wealthier than Clinton voters.
2) Your IQ won't save you from non-whites and socialists making the country terrible in the future.

That is true. However, let's say that some black person lives in your country and really loves its culture. Are you going to hurt or harm him just because he is black?

go back to cuckchan. I know youre a halfbreed at best so that's why your shilling this shit about "soul". The only people who have a soul are whites. Just because 1% of a shitskin race might be okay doesn't mean that we should suffer the 99% that isn't. Self deport from this board and any white country you live in

He needs to go back. If he likes the system in any particular white country his time is better spent trying to implement it in a black country.

There is absolutely need to stress over it, since its the most important aspect of what we aim to do. Why would we not?Economic policy barely matters in comparison. Is this a muh pr episode or strasserists trying to worm their way into the movement?

In the first place capitalism and communism are useless loaded marxist terms. By their own definition they refer to the peoples relation to the means of production (private property) and to free markets, both of which NatSoc germany had making it just regulated welfare capitalism.

I assume you aren't here just to talk bullshit about sophistry, but you are trying to shill strasserist/commie bullshit taht nobody accepts. Even if you are not, its best to not give leftists any validity or recognition and simply stop spewing commie talking points.

Yes? That's a pretty vague question.

Well, that would involve you physically fighting to remove Tyrone from your nation. Judging by your bravado here and here it's a bit odd that you don't seem to be genuinely prepared to get rid of Tyrone.

Good read lad, saved.

Lead the way my brave proletarian friend.

Deported if good person, gassed if criminal/ leftist. We're doing a favor to black-kind that way.

Private property isn't inherently the means of production. If the state owns something that is funded with tax payer money, that's not really private property. The state itself probably doesn't see it that way, as I'm sure they don't want the public helping themselves to a rifle from a national guard armory that they paid for with their own tax dollars, but you're really talking in simplistic terms and I'm not really sure what you're even trying to get across.

Rockwell was too damn nice.

The people (white people) who gave Trump the edge were white voters mainly from states greatly affected by globalist trade deals, it is that populist spark that benefited him greatly in the end.

Okay. I'm not a socialist, not that it matters saying this to you, when you clearly can't into nuance.

NSA have Trumps taxes showing Russia connection. Trump is threatening martial law to contain and redirect NSA to domestic agitators.

I don't need to lead the way, though. You've already made it perfectly clear that whomever fights beside you or on behalf of you isn't going to be getting anything out of it. That's why I told you you were going to end up like that guy in Berkeley, outnumbered with no back up coming.

Post a source, faggot.

I don't mind paying for an honest day's work. I won't be shelling over everything I own so you can learn to draw dicks in university.

You already made it you clear you don't care about what is right because you just want something out of it.

It's about time that you read a book.

What I tried to get across is that the posters shilling this here are run of the mill leftists peddling standard communist arguments that don't mix at all with NatSoc agenda, not even economically. Look through the last few posts where the guy says some normie-tier opinions on race too.

As was Hitler

I don't see what's "right" about giving how many generations of kike collaborators a pass because they've reach a particular moment in time where they don't have another town or state to move to, it was finally their daughter that got knocked up through nigger proximity, or they feel a possibility their business/union job isn't going to be their for their son.

First, i live in my homeland, in Iberia, has it also lived my forefathers so the "half-breed" and "you have to go back" buzzwords won't have much of an effect on me.

Are you 13 years old? what a fuckin edgy post

We want to do what is the best for our nations and harming inoccents isn't one of them. Deporting criminals and people with incompatible morals+culture? Yes, i agree with you.

However, those who don't engage in that behaviour shouldn't be trapped in the same cage

Any evidence that these voters are particularly poor?

What is the difference between falangism,nationalsyndicalism,coporatism and distrubutism?
Did franco implement a falangism or only elements of the ideology?
How similar is falangism and NS?
Pls answer,thx.

Capitalism was defined by Adam Smith in his the wealth of nations and described a system different than the current mercantilism that was the norm. Wherever you got the idea that Marx was the one who define what capitalism is just lol

Hitler was of course against both communism and capitalism seeing them both as systems that harmed the worker. Germany has a mixed market where private industry was allowed but also controlled. Capitalism alone is uncaring and divorced from the people it's supposed to serve. It is disingenuous to call what the NSDAP had as capitalism. The state serves the people and the economic system it has must also follow.

radixjournal.com/journal/2015/7/3/capitalism-the-enemy

If all the kikes and traitors disappeared overnight non-whites would still be a problem. Go back to 4chan or wherever you came from.

Shilling for the Falange? This is Holla Forums. The Falange, national syndicalism [to whatever extent you feel comfortable with or don't], Spanish fascism, etc. are completely appropriate topics.
But you're wrong here. You keep asserting this isn't the case over and over, but you're wrong.
I wouldn't bother much with it. Some Spaniards are just paranoid about racial questions, but they really shouldn't be. The improvement program needs to take place in Southern Europe while the available pool of people are still improvable. Spain itself has a history of being extremely fractured and perennially on thin-ice as a coherent society whether it was the Visigoths, Umayyads, or those loyal to the crown of Aragon.

Who said they wouldn't be? Is this a bot program or something that's running in this thread?

you are a civic nationalist. This is not your place. go to cuckchan. Also you must be new here if you think the idea that only whites have value is edgy. Gas yourself

Where did i use that word? The correct terminology would be "working class", these aren't necessarily "poor" people and even so, the amount of money these particular people make doesn't matter. The point is, this group of people in those states saw or directly experience firsthand what globalization can do to them, their friends, their communities and said "what the fuck", let's give this guy a chance, after voting straight democrat as far back as the 80s

I'd rather be allied with Russia than a bunch of treasonous kikes who've been working against the USA for decades in order to collapse it and turn it into their personal banana republic.
Gas the kikes, race war now.

Are you one of those retarded CI cultists who say that Jesus was nordic?

They'd be a self-solving problem, that's the issue. The kikes are the ones stirring the pot, so to speak.

How does it solve itself? Do you mean whites could actually take the proper measures against them once the meddlers are gone?

I don't know shitskin. I do know that Jesus was born from immaculate conception so to try to define him by race is pretty silly. Your bullshit JESUS WAS BLACK shit isn't going to fly here nigger

Franco used the aestethics of falangism/fascism but not the economics. Spain under Franco was a conservative Catholic authoritarian state with a pretty free economy. During the 60's the Spanish economy had the fastest growth in the world after Japan.

Remove cuckchanner

Kill yourself

Honestly I couldn't give less of a shit about Spain, but if you wan't to keep shitskins in it, it certainly is not for the best of the nation. One cannot have the cultural values of a nation without belonging to the same blood as its native people. Merely exist as a parasite.

If there are white spaniards that want nonwhites gone, then they are justified in removing them.

I'm not Spanish at all, and if you people are content with the shit that is being proposed, by all means go on. But this is not standard Holla Forums agenda and certainly not for nationalists from whiter countries. Far too cucked and left-wing, no matter how much you want to word it as something different. Hitler had to purge his party of these people. However I'm not gonna argue semantics here, as long as you support ethnic cleansing&natsoc we're on good terms.

Its a word dumbass. Im telling you what leftists mean when they say the word, and its not good to shill that shit here.

Pottery

Nice strawman and ad-hominem, where in my post did I claim he was black? Judging from your other posts you're either some autistic nordicist or a kike. Either way, kill yourself.

Oh so you're just a trolling faggot from Holla Forums. Why even bother. At least read what Hitler wrote about capitalism. Or maybe you think Hitler was a leftist too. You seem pretty dumb

Why would I kill myself? I believe in our Lord Christ and I know whites are the only race worth shit in this world. You're the one who started whining about not having a soul. Also anyone who tries to start a conversation about the race of Christ will bring up the argument that JESUS WAS A MUD KIKE/NIGGER. Can't fool me nigger

National-sindicalism takes pride in ethnic sovereignity, that's a fact jack.
However, pheraps, not to the same extent as nat-socialism but even so, the problems in germany were\are different from those in Spain.

Germany and other central\nordic european countries are more threatened by immigration and globalism than the south so that's why pheraps we have different views. As i said, our problems are different but i support the success of the other european countries

It's almost like in every thread discussing any country, there's a (((certain group of people))) who want to convince you that they're not actually white.
They would have you believe that the only "white" country is Israel.

hmmm

I'm NatSoc shitskin and Christ will lead us to victory.

I only brought it up because your post led me to believe that you're a part of Christian Identity, an extremely retarded cult consisting of Nordic WEWUZKANGZ types. I'm in no way opposed to regular non-cucked Christianity (traditional Catholicism and Orthodox) or national socialism.

Nobody asked if you were.
What's been proposed in the thread? It's just been a shitty mess [which you've had a lot to do with] of people incoherently rambling that certain things aren't compatible with National Socialism without being particularly specific as to what they are talking about.
Discussion of fascism, fascist movements, fascist societies, and fascist economics is the Holla Forums agenda.
Like 56% USA, where I assume you and I are both from? Or Canada? Or Sweden? The United States has more in common with Mexico than Spain does, outside of language.
The Blue Divison was purged? That's news to me.
That's pretty much all you've done, ineffectively.

If you're a NatSoc and you don't understand the concept of racial soul then I dunno man. Have you really not read anything about what NatSoc is about or believes in?

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Is this the same book in English?
http: //fundacionjoseantonio.es/doc/Antologia_en_ingles.pdf

This is maximum pilpul.

yeah my race. Not yours though.

The existing laws would be enforced properly. 10-30 million illegals deported, niggers and shitskins commit disproportionately more crime so they would be shot or imprisoned for felonies, their large unsustainable families will starve to death without government handouts, and they will swiftly learn the harsh realities of living in a white country governed by the rule of law.
Trust me, they'll deport themselves.

No, it's a different one.
But it's a good read too because Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera was linked to the foundation of nat-sindicalism

Racial soul is different from the religious definition of the soul. The nature of the world as the LORD created it is hierarchical and whites are at the top, that doesn't mean that other races don't have a soul. I have no problem with nigger Christians as long as they stay in their own countries (meaning the countries we give them since at least half of Africa should be taken for lebensraum and resources).

Yes.all niggers should be killed.

I don't know man. I've seen the shit niggers do to themselves. Mothers accusing their children of being witches and participating in burning them alive. I have significant doubts that they have souls. The saints almost all being white really makes me feel that I'm not in the wrong about this either.

When people claim that falangism was not as racial as NS,they are right.but if the original falangists saw spain today they would go full 1488 and literally gas everything with shitskin blood.falangists nowadays are redpilled on race just like natsocs are more hardcore on the jq now.

Niggers need to be genocided.
All of that land is rightful aryan clay
Im dead serious faggot.

They just need the right leadership (strict colonialism). When led with a firm hand they can function almost to the level of jungle asians/latino's.

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Let's agree to disagree. As a Christian I'm against needless killing (killing jews and muslims however isn't needless since they are an active threat to world stability). I pity niggers for their low intelligence, I don't actively despise them.

You clearly haven't had the pleasure to be personally culturally enriched by nigger in a multiculti country then.or you live in a majority white neighbourhood.Niggers are ugly,dumb,violent,annoying,disgusting,smelly and every other negative thing out there that isn't jewish.if you cuck for them you are apart of the problem.

As I mentioned in an earlier post I do not want them in my country or any white country for that matter. I don't see any problem in Rhodesia type states where we make them useful though. The only reason they're violent and annoying is because we allow it.

Nope.they are not ugly and violent because "we allow it".
First of all "we" are not doing jack shit.the kikes allow it.they have controlled the west not us.
Second of all,niggers have always been filthy subhumans who act violent and annoying.it is a purely genetic question,and the only solution is that they be wiped out from this planet along with the kikes so we can finally progress to a better world.

The best part of that picture is that they had to (very obviously) shoop about half of the eyes to be a shade other than dogshit brown.

Careful. I'm part Sicilian and the mods didn't like me saying that.
Sicilians are white though. I was joking. Plz no moar ban.

National Socialism is for the Aryan elite society. It's a future society. Fascism is more for mixed whites that need a common relationship to their Nation

National Syndicalism was also the movement in Portugal, that got shut down by Salazar's more moderate brand of autocratic government.
Arguable as well, early NatSoc was also a national syndicalist movement, and so was the Iron Guard of Romania.

Pretty much the Third Position ideologies can be split into the more worker leaning movements and the more corporatist leaning movements. Either way, they both stand at the ideal center of politics, with the ideal left being the jacobins and the ideal right being the monarchists/traditionalists.

There is no hard evidence of any impact on genetics having occurred from the Muslim occupation of Iberia and even Greece. Sicily is the only thing that comes close, and even then, the impact is like 2-3% of the population having been impacted.

It's just a fucking tan goddamn it.

I'm pretty sure most of Holla Forums wants to abolish capitalism, at the very least all the fascists and natsocs, as well as the monarchists, do. Only the liberterians want to keep it.

We are not going to repeat the mistakes of the past.

Syndicalism is cancer.

This shiggy is undiggyable.

Daily reminder