Why Is It... Really... Leftists Hate Donald J. Trump?

First off, I'd like to explain something before you discard or ignore this thread. Please here me out.

I have never been a fan of the neo-con Republican establishment. I hated George W. Bush's administration. I did not agree with the wars waged in the Middle East either. I am also not a fan of the current President, Obama, either. I think he is a sell-out. He 100% with the current corrupt Establishment.

I cannot think of one good thing that has come from any recent administration (Democrat or Republican) over the last 30 years.

I also despise Hillary Clinton. I never had any beef with Mr. S█████ though. I think a lot of his intentions were good. That being said: I am voting for Donald J. Trump come November.

I want to explain why, first. Then I'm going to ask you all one simple question.

Donald Trump may seem arrogant and foolish, but he does one thing right: he speaks his mind. And he does not care if people are offended either. He says he intends to bring jobs back to America. I think its about time, we have too many people unemployed and suffering from poverty. He says we need to be protected from Islamic extremists, I find that hard not to agree with. They have raped, tortured, maimed and killed a lot of innocent people in the Middle East and abroad. We are talking about hardened criminals and we can't have these types walking around civilian societies. He wants to co-operate with Mexico to crack down on the violent, abusive Mexican drug cartels as well. Like terrorists, the drug cartels also rape, kill and destroy civil societies. Trump wants to unite with other countries and make more allies, but not to form another Empire… but to respect each other's sovereignty and help one another, and to trade with one another.

I want you all to watch something. It's a 30 minute video of Trump talking, a collection from over 30+ years of footage. In this video, it starts with the oldest interviews and ends up with his announcement to run for president in 2015: youtube.com/watch?v=OCabT_O0YSM

What do we possibly have to lose electing someone like Donald J. Trump? Really…

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I didn't know Donald Trump browsed on image boards

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His tiny hands just creep me out.

He's like the prototypical capitalist pig, he doesn't even bother to hide it behind SJW liberalism. He's a compulsive lying narcissist petit-fascist. What's not to like right?

Leave, Donald.

The question was simple.

What do we possibly have to lose electing someone like Donald J. Trump?

Because there's nothing to gain.
All you're voting for is the continuing spiral of supply-side economics and poor foreign policy decisions.

All of the workers rights we've got so far, more wars and imperialism, neo-facism in the US like ID cards and religious deportation that doesn't even try to hide like the NSA shit, etc

You sound angry and stupid but go on


Ok, now you sound really stupid.

I also despise Hillary Clinton. I never had any beef with Mr. S█████ though. I think a lot of his intentions were good. That being said: I am voting for Donald J. Trump come November.

Of course you are.


r/the_Donald folks

Sage and reported, hopefully you get banned.

What's wrong with a step towards isolationism? What constitutes 'good' foreign policies for you?

Clinton will start a war with Russia over the Middle East in year one. Trump will cooperate with the Russians to eliminate ISIS quickly, then pull us out and pull us back from many of our overseas bases. Where are you drawing more wars and imperialism from? Where will wi establish our empire?

Using the word fascism isn't an argument, tell me why closely watching demographic groups based on increased likelihood of attacks coming from them isn't a smart thing to do. Pro-tip, sentimentalism and buzzwords isn't an argument either

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Repeal NAFTA tbh.

serious foreign policy analysis folks. America only picks on weak nations

The war on terror created ISIS, what is it 2001? This shit is totally debunked. Also, Russia is terrible and the west shouldn't be working with them

It's possible but given his jingoistic attitude I doubt this

Bush didn't run on more wars either, but Trump has felt comfortable enough to literally say 'we should kill terrorist's families', and 'we need to go steal Iraq's oil because we're America'. Does that really sound like an anti imperialist to you.

In a hurry so someone else can tackle this fully but Trump says he wants to stop all Muslims coming into the US. That's absolutely deranged and flagrantly violates the constitution you guys claim to worship

Two words classcuck, remove porky.

A thing ive noticed about the left is that they have no interests in furthering society for the people of a nation, or ridding ourselves of harmful elements (globalist, zionist, islam, you name it) They act as a church themselves whose only purpose is to slay a sacred cow, which is Hitler and anything on the right. The left doesnt care about advancement of society they just care about tarnishing the right, who is only popular right now because they offer solutions while hillary and the EU are calling everyone racist and pretending everything is fine and attacking anyone who doesnt buy into their church.

With Donald they are slaying two sacred cows at once, A) He is the definition of successful businessman in a capitalist system, you cant get more bourgeoisie as that. there is no way in hell he would be paying his millions of workers the same earning he does or whatever these leftyclowns have a problem with and B) he represents the right at the moment and the right loves him, so you know fug the right!!!

theres also that third reason amongst some here, because he is a white gentile

Trumpfags sound exactly like Obamafags

You might as well have answered your own question.

I'm guessing you have never had to go through department of labor arbitration before and don't live in a "right to work" state.

The last of those rights you are thinking of left the market with the boomers.

Failed demand-side economics?

Donnyboy inherited most of his money, btw.

Oreos will be made in America again you fuggin gommy

When people like you claim 'furthering society for the people of a nation', it's worth noting that you're not referring to the people currently living in a country. You're referring to an idealized version of those people.
I'd like to point out a particular irony in your statement
All of these are nonsensical, nonspecific entities fought only by the right because of pathological fear. I'd recommend watching Zizek's thoughts on this because he noted how nationalist movements rely on a pathological, baseless fear of the others.

Donald Trump is a perverse, vulgar porky that is worshiped by the perverse, vulgar, reactionary new right that manifests itself in the minds of disaffected youth who are ready to blame this other for the problems in their lives.
You want to further society? Great! Go volunteer to help the disadvantaged, campaign to end private prisons or to pay workers a living wage. I can promise that there are bigger problems facing the US than muslims, jews, feminists, or blacks, despite what your youtube philosophy courses at PragerU may tell you.

Who loves Jews. You couldn't pick a more philo-semetic candidate if you tried.

Your sloganeering is literally all you have. I kind of wish Trump could win just so you could see the failure yourself.

Didn't you hear? Russians hacked into D&C and also maybe poisoned Hillary :^) They're banging the war drums and have been. Even if we just enter into a new cold war, I don't feel like proxy conflicts for the next 80 years.

pls

Not an argument

Hillary hysterically implicating the Russians and refusing to work with them is more jingoistic than saying that our allies need to start ticking up for themselves because we can't do it anymore. Who is he threatening war with besides the guys who are already killing us?


We're already at war with these people. Holding one arm behind our back is retarded and leads to these messes in the first place, and I'd rather have our troops in Syria and Iraq BTFO muzzies than sitting in Germany to hold off the USSR like they have been for 75 years.

I said no sentimentalism


Allowing enemy populations into your country hasn't been a thing for the past 10,000 years of human history, it shouldn't be now.

lurk moar, the constitution is a fundamentally flawed document based on Enlightenment ideals, which themselves derive from baseless and arbitrary sentiments


You can never trust anyone fully to do what they say, but assuming they won't do it doesn't get us anywhere. We might as well vote for him, it's no skin off our back and in any outcome, it will be better than a Clinton presidency.

I never understood why people bought this false dichotomy. You can vote for the lesser of two evils why also working to push for a genuinely good option and a shift your way in the future.

In an honest election he will win. And he will shit up the country just as bad as obungo. And just like obungo's followers, they will blame everything one someone or something else other than the terrible policies set in effect by their commander in chief.


Well sure you can. How is Obama working out for us?

So what are you going to do besides bitch about it on Holla Forums? We vote for the lesser of two evils and execute activism and memetic warfare to push the Overton window right until we can actually establish an anti-zionist white ethno-state. You guys aren't doing anything but letting your progressive compatriots destroy the fabric of society

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We're already 'in a new cold war'.

Because this worked so well the last time. You realize that fundamentalist Islamic terror is a thing because the US wanted to kick the USSR out of Afganistan, right? The same USSR you cretins demonize that was actually making the place a may be decent place to live, educating people, liberating women ect.

But Holla Forumsfags have more in common with Salafist Muslims anyways, you reject anything that made Western culture exceptional.

Kill yourself

I long since lost hope in humanity. Bitching is all I have left man don't take that from me.

I especially have no hope when the supposed savior has followers who say things like "memetic warfare".

Man you shouldn't knock letting the world burn until you've tried it. It's surprisingly liberating.

Election fraud is as American as Apple pie, fam.
historyhalf.com/history-of-voter-fraud/

Yeah, but a man can dream can't he?

If you have enough opium, anything is possible. But I wouldn't advise jumping off buildings because you think you can fly.

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Strawman and frankly irrelevant to the substance of my argument.


I'm not arguing with that at all, all of our foreign policy decisions have been fucked since WWI.

USSR was ironically pretty nationalist and I respect a lot of what they did. Perhaps that differentiates me from the rest of Holla Forums, but Soviet monuments and propaganda was top-tier Great Patriotic-tier.

The problem is just that Marxism and all of its derivatives are soulless and define Man in purely material/economic terms, which is absurd. Race is real, equality is a myth, and multi-culturalism erodes group cohesion. Why try to design a system where we ignore those realities, instead of taking advantage of them?

The products of Cultural Marxism are well-evidenced by the increase in drug abuse and suicide in both the former USSR and modern America. It gutted the spirit.

kek.

Not to mention that this is the same guy who thinks the Philippines is a MUSLIM country.You can sleep safely knowing that it will be a lot harder for Frederick to come home under the NDAA.

No wonder we're winning


I did try it and then I realized that it left my life with no purpose, and so I then designed an elaborate system of higher purpose in order to keep me happy, motivated, and standing at least some small chance of making the world a better place. A 1% chance is better than a 0% chance, might as well give it a shot if the ultimate end result is death anyway.


See the 1% chance is better than a 0% chance. You're all terribly irrational here.

not an argument

I wasn't trying to argue with you, I was laughing at your stupidity. Are you really that autistic?

The fact you call it "memetic" is the problem. It's all jokes and games.

Besides I don't really care who wins or loses. The world burns either way. And if it doesn't, then that's pretty cool too.

That is a fantastic story. A+ material really. Well, you're welcome to stress yourself out before the shit hits the fan, I'll be sitting in recliner sipping some tea if you need me.

Molyneux memes and conspiracy theories will get you no where. Call me from whatever building you'll be living in when fascism reigns and you're so well liked and regarded that you get a seat in the ruling class, till then, you're a classcuck shill for a presidential candidate who's going to lose spreading pathological fear on the internet.
By the way, counter-signaling isn't strawmanning, it's its own thing.

No.

The people of Scandinavia have a good chance of being descended from vikings, the people of the rest of Europe have a good chance of being descended from a crusading peasant who fought in the middle east.

People doing things 1000-1200 years ago and then spreading their genes results a big chance of modern whites being related to them. My grandfather for example fought for his people during ww2 =)

Great grandfather, pardon me.

kek, my Grandad kicked his ass. and his name was Castro :^)

We hardly have any decent jobs left. That's a much bigger issue right there.


Excuse me? As if this hasn't already happened and isn't continuing to happen under Obama?


We already have drivers licenses, State ID, etc. We already live in a fascist police state.


You mean deportation of illegals, hardened criminals and Islamic extremists? Why do we need those kind of people around? Do you know what has happened to Sweden and Germany over the years because of amnesty? Total hellhole and even more of a police state now.


Already an issue.

My point? We already have all these problems, we need someone in leadership who is willing to FIX these problems.

Part of the reason is he is pulling the virtue signal veil off of the left's minority policy.
Blacks in the USA are getting the shit end of the stick, it makes more sense for them to live in slavery to the state through welfare than to try to better themselves and become financially independent. Liberal policies shit on the little man, how can small businesses form when crushed under retarded regulations, how can potential jobs be made when policies increase the actual cost of those jobs?
The liberal elites don't care, they just care about what the donors have told them to care about. I have yet to hear about a plan for the left regarding illegal immigrants that would make them citizens, just amnesty. No plans to help the unskilled masses learn a viable trade, just increase min wage. No plans to help failing inner city schools keep students, just blame whitey.
Trump represents what the liberal elites fear the most, a person that actually wants to help poor people succeed. he wants to raise the value of American workers, something big donors don't like, by removing the illegal surplus of labor. Liberals have been hiding behind a moral high horse that is standing on the crushed minorities that vote for them.

They vote for the left wing. Though the communists will get a shock if the muslims ever get the numbers to take things over, they aren't to friendly towards the Turkish communists.

Not in any sense you would agree with. Goal was to spread socialism internationally. Resources were also a pretty big issue. I don't think the USSR advocated for one ethnic group to dominate another in their territories.

I had a great grand father who killed you nazis

WEW

All you're voting for is the continuing spiral of supply-side economics and poor foreign policy decisions.

Watch the video in the OP. Trump nailed our foreign policy problems - years ago! Still does to this day.

Only insofar as it exists in the mind. Race itself is a loaded term.


No shit, Lenin wrote extensively on this subject, blowing this meme out of the water over 100 years ago.

Russia also has a pretty big substan e abuse issue and that nationalism doesn't seem to be easing it. Maybe, just maybe, it's due to economics?

This post looks like it was copied straight off r/socialism. You and the op should both fuck off.

He fought for his people/country/ideology, I can hardly be upset at that, hell, I respect it.


Anything that isn't islam is a heresy to muslims, diverging from the Quran in any way is punishable by death. Islamic communism is a meme.

youtube.com/watch?v=VHyYDcuUrYQ

Well then the leftists are very naive. Do they know just how brutal Islam is? Do they know that Islam practices brutality and rape against women? Are they aware they kill gays and minority groups? Hell, Islamic extremists make the Nazis look like a bunch of wussies. You so much as have a drink of vodka and they'll cut your throat for it.

Tell me my friend, aside from policies that have to do with race, is there anything that he's made a tangible stance on, and hasn't changed his mind about?

lol, they care about votes, thats it. The EU commissioners who claim to be "ex-communists" are the biggest advocates of islamic mass immigration, knowing full well the effects of it.

His simplification of the tax code. Bringing back manufacturing jobs so you don't need a college degree to support a family. Enforcing existing immigration law.

I don't think most westernized Muslims are radical fundamentalists.

That's like saying all Jews are ultra-Orthodox fuckheads who beat you to death if they catch you working on the Sabbath

How does he intend to bring back manufacturing jobs that pay a wage American workers will accept. There's a reason they moved overseas.

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Depends on your definition of radical, supporting terrorist attacks on civilians is radical by my definition.

Oh was that the point you were making? Fair enough, based commies. Thank you for killing muslims.

I'd like to see the socioeconomic status of the people polled. Would probably correlate with poverty, ghettoization and alienation from the larger society.

Most terrorist fundies tend to be the Klebold/Harris type, at least in the west.

You fucking think? Maybe if they actually belonged to that society, they wouldn't have this problem

They aren't assimilating, they don't want to. They demand concessions from the host culture, not the other way around. Why should European and American culture be sacrificed to preserve some other culture that isn't in danger of going away

Not sure about the other countries, but I can tell you that in the UK 50% of muslim men and 80% of muslim women are unemployed, with 4 kids being the average for their specific group.

You know that poor whites, indians and even blacks don't end up supporting terrorism
because they are poor, right?

Poverty is not an excuse for crime or supporting or engaging in terrorism.


Self imposed of course, they gather in their own communities within communities, treat the place like shit then cry about racism and demand more islamic related things funded by the state. If they wish to live in an islamic country then they should move to one.


This.

Ending corporate tax loopholes and removing trade agreements that allow American coorperations to freely move products made elsewhere back to the American markets.

If 90% of Trump's fanbase just died or disappeared, I'd vote for him.

What, you right-wing faggots thought I hated him for being PC? Nah, it's the fear of strengthening extreme rightists that will keep me from giving him my vote. Sorry fam, maybe you all should have had a better PR campaign.

But thats PC nonsense, right? Oh well.

because they are poor, right?

Yeah, they generally become criminals.

No one made excuses, they're explanations. People in the upper class don't tend to become terorists either (Osama bin Laden being an exception where idealism and the idea of Islam being a counter to Western imperialism come into play).

Good luck with your capital flight. If you haven't noticed, capital is essentially stateless now.

that situation is not stable and has only existed for the past thirty or forty years. it's highly likely to collapse soon.

Little tidbit, most people never got those Volkswagens they paid for, btw.

spartacus-educational.com/GERlabour.htm

We'll see. The US is the largest market for manufactured goods at the moment but China and India could change that in the next 50 or so years.

perhaps, but even if the us was bumped off as the largest capital market in the world, it would still be in the top three for the foreseeable future.

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Remember not wanting to feed the beast makes you a cuck.

He's not going to be an isolationist you easily mislead chowderhead.
The military industrial complex relies on us going into countries and continually destabilizing their shit.