Nazism Killed Less Than Capitalism, Communism or Islam, Minds.com

So, I went to this website called Minds.com and one of the newest trending things was a Post from some username legofreak446

Not this is what happened:

How do you guess think of this post in particular?

Other urls found in this thread:

btcbase.org/log/2014-11-16#925363
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Rauschning#Authenticity_of_Hitler_Speaks
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preussentum_und_Sozialismus#Rebuke_of_Marxism_and_definition_of_.22true_socialism.22
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_capitalism
plus.google.com/u/0/111832983330174487615
youtube.com/user/legofreak446
twitter.com/legofreak446
soundcloud.com/legofreak446
twitter.com/NSFWRedditGif

well those are just numbers, without some sources they mean nothing, also nice email faggot

btcbase.org/log/2014-11-16#925363

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it also makes about one 9/11 per day every day of every year all along the 20th century
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Isn't that kind of a dumb comparison considering German Nazism was only in swing during a really short time in a relatively small area are compared to the time and/or massive population islam and communism had?

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This.

Also, no source on the data.

No, the point is not a direct correlation of time/deaths. The point is that Jews have memed "Hitler" and "Fascist" to mean "the worst murdering evil political group ever to exist"

When instead the correct term would be to call someone Stalin or Mao, pol pot even. But we never hear about those commies, do we.

seems a bit low tbh famalam

And the sky is blue.

I'm not right leaning but Hitler is just one of many many potential figures that could've become the dictator of Germany at the time. The circumstances were really specific which allowed it. Hitler is just the creation of that time. Stalin and Mao on the other hand were not a creation of their time but were people to take advantage of it, eventually leading to huge paranoia and massive death tolls.

Hitler has also shown the most humane qualities out of these 3 figures since he didn't like seeing blood and was incredibly fond of art and continuing the art in Germany despite the Nationalist Socialist setup.

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You fucking retard.

Who would've thought

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Singled out atrocities by communism and islam did way more, faggot.

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I think that was meant to be his username, not email

Looks like the man tried to claim that it was his own, but even with that can it be true what the guys says in his post?

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OY VEY
The chutzpah of this kike!

This however makes it look like Hitler was FAR worse than the others. Consider that National Socialism only killed people for ~5 years, and localised to Germany (obviously the world war but so too with others). Communism has been killing people for what, 100 years? Russia-China-North Korea-Zimbabwe-Vietnam-and so on, AND the world war.

Islam has been going on for 1300 years.

The numbers are certainly wrong, and they indicate to anyone who thinks even a little that Nazism is in fact the worst and "its a good thing we stopped it so quickly".

… Re-make the graph yourself with real figures and going from specific times so you can measure more accurately.

Bullshit. It was close to 20k.

I know in retrospect Hitler really didn't do anything wrong but let's not pretend the Americans were the real Hitlers.

that phrase is used in gchq theads over and over again

The internet is being slowed down deliberately in usuk while third world shitholes like bucharest have 100/100 connections for $5 a month.

Let THAT sink in

5 companies the media in america

sports is kept of tv under the guise of bidding wars to keep children fat.


Roosh V is banned from britain meanwhile gays can emigrate from uganda for enforcing the pre pc ban on homosexuality.

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But that's exactly the case you retard…

Hymie please. With real refugees pouring in the number is greater than even official documents.

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Capitalism and Communism are both sides of the same shekel. Both world wars' deaths can be blamed on both.

That's kind of tertiary in effect though. I guess you could argue that consumption/capitalism got us there but it's also a lot of jewing and the shitty food packed with garbage that the masses have to eat with the rising costs of living.

Give me a break, thats some kikery if I've ever seen it
I think you mean corporatism/crony capitalism
Fuck you.
KEK

Islam killed 270mil in 1400 years, Capitalism 29 in 200 years, while Communism killed 250 in 100 and Nazi 21 millions in 26 years?
Socialism confirmed to be the deadliest ideology to ever exist.

This truly is the fault of Jewish/communist subversion.

why does everybody mix up corporatism and capitalism?
America is not what the founding fathers envisioned. It was tainted. We had capitalism for a very brief period of time a long time ago. It was turned into corporatism when government began to expand and corporations/governments started doing each other favors. Jewish/communist subversion ruined it.
The jews want Hillary/romney/cruz/Obongo, etc. Not Ron Paul. There is a reason for this.
Socialism/Communism are both institutions of the (((Left))) and engage in the economics of starvation.
National Socialism is the only exception, but then again it was only active for a brief period of time before the war was forced on the Germans.

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Yes it is, but all the deaths related to Nazis were in self defense so none of it counts anyway.

Please be serious. I love the idea of a faggot walking around with such brain Cancer.

It's a red pill for 12 year olds. Just your basic history. Nothing controversial about it. Some cunt who tries to debate it, is just an ignorant shithead and probably leftist faggot who wants to suck mudslime dick.

FTFY

Let's get this party started!
Political ideology
Economic system
Political ideology/religion(freemasonry+judaism)
Religion/political ideology
The retard fails at the start.

21 mil
Automatically blame nazism for 1/3 of WW2 deaths? War deaths in particular?
inb4 lolercaust
Blame Allies and their economic destruction for that. You can't sustain a prison population healthy and fed with constant bombardment of supply lines.
29 mil
Capitalism existed in one way or another in human societies(read European) since their emergence. You need to accumulate capital to survive in winter.
Now how does an economic system cause deaths? Besides corruption and negligence which is more of a human nature.

It more around 150 mil. And yes this is the only one that fits here since it was systematic slaughter by quotas.

270mil?
Where the hell from? Muzzies conquered countries from Byzantines to Spain but but they didn't slaughter them like the mongols(60 mil) did. And there weren't that many people on Earth in those times.


This is a typical redirection and "we killed but they're as bad as us" fallacy. The guy is redirecting from the communism(judaism/freemasonry) death toll to islam to piggy back the growing nationalist sentiment in USA and Europe. Just like any other slimy two faced jew would do.
And don't mention the ewbul capitalism and nazism, the only ideologies that actually work and don't seek to destroy their societies.

How do I subvert this

OP, let me give you a bit of advice.
I've seen you and your friends drop the "minds.com" name in a few threads for at least two months now.
I visited the site half a dozen times to see what it would grow into.

My advice is not to shill it this hard.
You're getting close to have people calling you out for trying to gather a new exodus to a new site coupled with "it's an honeypot" accusation.
This is the third shit-tier argument/discussion/thread on that site you linked too. I've seen topics there that are much more worthwhile of discussion.
If you really want to present that site on Holla Forums or to other people, go with content that's good, not content that is "shocking" or "controversial".
Especially death counts. This is Holla Forums, the place where people laugh about Mao starving millions of people by accident.

Also, tell whoever runs the place to improve the layout. It's a step above reddit (eg: you can actually read shit now) but it's not much better. With all the problems chans have, they're still the best solution for discussion.

How exactly does one equate capitalism with deaths? Communists literally exterminated people for the sake of their ideology. I know of nothing similar happening for capitalism. Switzerland is a capitalist country and they're politically neutral, so it's obviously not the economic system itself which causes demands deaths. Are you just counting deaths occurring during wars that were fought by countries who happened to have a capitalist economic system? Because that seems to be a tenuous equation at best.

All of these. Disinfo in our favour is still disinfo and no good will come of it. Also insert Goebbels quote about lies making ineffective propaganda.

Islam has been waging non-stop war since it's inception. Hunderds of bloody battles and CONSTANT slave raids.
Ironically, most of the slaves were africans and where treated FAR worse than any slave in the USA (rough castration, killing of slave babies).
Heck, islam has probably surpassed Rome in the number of slaves and brutality.

You're forgetting India.

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FORGOT MY FUCKING SAGE FUCK

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yep
muzzies breed like rats and when it starts getting crowded in mudshit land they start a new jihad and zerg rush the neighbouring non-islamic nation
think of what muslims do to their conquered captives
if they were christians they kill every man and boy over the age of 12
every woman and girl is raped and sold/divided up among muslims
every boy below the age of 12 is converted to islam/indoctrinated to serve it and pay the jizhya tax, enslaved and usually castrated
arabs castrated boys by taking a red hot knife and cutting the balls and dick off
they'd cauterize the wound, bury the injured boy up to their neck in horse/cow manure and force feed them milk for a month while they 'heal'
the survival rate for this castration procedure was about 10%
every eunuch in the middle east was a result of this procedure and there were a lot of them
the aforementioned treatment is the one they reserved for christians because christians are referenced in the quran they are considered human but sub-human
consider what the muslims did to buddhists, jains, hindus and zoroastrians whom the quran didnt mention?
the mudshits didnt even bother enslaving them
they'd take the women they want to rape and literally just massacred the rest
you cant even begin to compare Rome to islam
Rome brought civilization with them
the muslims pulled civilization down around their ears for the fun of it and then built sandcastles out of the blood soaked sand left behind in their wake

emotional idiots who believe these stats need to be killed off

This.
Anybody who takes these numbers at facevalue and just takes a moment to think about will come to the conclusion that Nazis are the worst considering the short timeframe they were in power.

Of course it is a stupid comparison. Thing is that the left is not above doing this kind of comparisons. They're happy doing comparisons of terrorism numbers where whites are just as bad as shitskins, because they ignore internal muslim attacks and a Catalan separatist calling up the local police station and yelling "¡BOOH! ¡Viva Catalonia!" is a terrorist attack and counted on equal footing with a kebab ploughing through a crowd of children in a semi-truck.

People want to be swayed, people want to be led by easily digestible outrage. If we don't provide it, the left will.

SAGE NIGGERS

What's the timeframe of those numbers though? K/D ratio is less important than KPM.

war

HURR DURR GOBORADISM ISN'T GABIDALISM
You fucking autists capitalism can adapt to various forms of government, it can be progressive or authoritarian conservative. It can be libertarian or keynessian, it's still capitalism

Don't mind the natsoc shills friendo, they just think they're cool because their version of marxism involves strong jawlines and cool uniforms

Who exactly did capitalism kill?


WAAAAAA CAPITALISM MADE ME FAT! EVEN IN SOCIALIST UK!


Capitalism didn't mandate American intervention in WWII. That was a statist intervention–imperialism and military adventurism.


The numbers need to be reworked. Germany hardly killed anyone outside of fighting a war that was prosecuted against them by the allies despite pleas for peace. The Holocaust didn't happen, just typhus outbreaks in concentration camps filled with those who couldn't be trusted with freedom. On the other hand, Communism destroyed the economies of every country it touched, causing people to starve to death en masse. Islam is similar, as they mass murder their own people for thinking or acting slightly differently.

Capitalism never killed anyone, and fascism never killed anyone outside of Spain (if you want to call Franco's system fascism).

The Holocaust not happening also makes things difficult

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WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP THOSE SINKS ON THE STREETS MAN, JUST LET THEM IN, THEY'RE COLD AND THEIR HUNGRY AND WHITE

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Implying natsoc isn't soc

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I blame hotwheels for removing my sage from email field

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Just shows you the 94 million claim is complete and utter bullshit.

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"Capitalism" is eugenistic to a certain extent, all these "people" (IE disgusting subhumans without self-control) that eat themselves out of the genepool is a good thing, haha!

I AM BUT ONE OF YOU, COMERA… FRIENDS!

This is a national SOCIALIST board, faggot. Go back to TRS or mises.org if you want to jerk off to kikepitalism.

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GOOD GOD Y'ALL

Holla Forums is a NATSOC board. You can kindly fuck off.

That is a brutal act of war, you nigger.

Please remind me where in the rules that fact is, you LARPing D/C shill.

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Remind me why you came here from cuckchan.

The holocaust believers says Hitler is evil because he killed people but as we know, he and his followers did not see these populations as not being people and dangerous to actual people. In that case there really isn´t anything evil with a final solution.
So whever you believe in the holocaust or not, Hitler was not evil in either case.

Good luck with carrying out an actual holocaust.


Pick one.


Pick one.

Muh leftypol, muh soviet apologism are your only "argument", you are no better than a fag crying about stormfront when the holy holocaust is denied or a "listen and believe" feminist . -)

National-Socialism is the truth, not because Hitler didn´t kill 6 millions kikes and Stalin killed 66 millions Kulaks with a teaspoon.

I've been here before the migration, shill.
Go back to SF

How am dividing? NATSOC makes the most sense and could unite not only this board but the entire white race to remove the Jewish parasite that's been plaguing the world for hundreds of years.

1. leave
2. don't come back

Your the only one that's dividing.

*youre are

That's called a fact friendo, if you want a natsoc echochamber you can buttfuck your way on over to the main page and make your own board.

Daily reminder that SF shills exist.

I think cuckchan Holla Forums might be right up your alley.

Nazism was around for what, 12 years?

Either way, the "LOOK HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY KILLED" argument always sounded stupid to me.

There were 21 millions joos, gypsies, partisans and homos? Really?

…Muh leftypol!

Repeating the same shill tactics doesn't work here.

Are you fucking 12?
You realize that ethnonationalism isn't fused at the hip with defacto federal control over all private enterprise, do you not?
Fucking edgy nazi kids who just because they discovered Ethnonationalism on some fucking skinhead board they think it's inseparable from swastikas and shitty economic policy.

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Did I stutter, jackass?
Learn to fucking sage.

Good post, though I'd disagree with this. Based Crassus was a capitalist and whilst people may not have died because of his practices, I'm sure many died because of practices like them.

Capitalism by it's very nature cannot kill someone.
It's literally identical to saying "Voluntary value exchange between individuals has killed people"
It makes no sense.

Saying that someone is a rich "capitalist" and has killed people therefor capitalism has killed people is like saying a man once was the Squat world champion once killed a guy, therefor the concept of a squat killed people.

Also the stories of Crassius are rumors at best.

Learn to fucking shut up.

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I don't think 14 year old kids are allowed on Holla Forums

you have no home here.

Holla Forums is NatSoc, and you are to new to post.

either leave or lurk more before posting.

Saying any ideology killed anyone is exactly the same. Its not the ideology that kills people, but the people who follow the ideology.

Capitalism

The idea that there were no private mercenary groups, assassins or other things that could result in death (to some extent like refusing to save people - although I really just quoted that because I love the story, there are far better examples and you could argue that Crassus cannot be blamed because he did not kill people, he just did not stop them being killed [well didn't stop their house burning down, no reason to believe he actually let anyone die - don't sue me for slander 2k years later plz]).

Capitalism as an ideology has certainly brought death to this world through various means. It may even have the highest kill count of overall. I just do not think it is fair because on average the 'followers' of the "ideology of capitalism" killed far less than the followers of islam or communism.

Not capitalism. Try harder.

Okay, faggot.

They’re literally not, but whatever you want to shitpost about.

I need to go dogsledding again
but this time with midgets

DELET THIS

Private mercenary's or assassins attacking free citizenry is by it's very nature not capitalism, as obviously being shot in the back of the head is not a voluntary interaction.

And by any version of common law, refusing to help someone who are in a situation that you did not cause is not immoral.

"Capitalism as an ideology has brought more death to the world than anything else"

Get the fuck out with your Marxist horseshit.
Capitalism invented the cures for every fucking disease on the planet that there are cures for, Industrialization allowing 85% of the current world population to exist, the entirety of modern amenities, etc.

Socialism on the other hand is inherently violent, requiring the violent theft of property from individuals, and justifying the murder of individuals who refuse that theft. That is the key difference.

Is that so? what law states this?
We're not on cuckchan anymore

The law that says I don't want edgy 14 year old retards on my fucking board.
8ch was better before you gamergate niggers.

People privately selling their services to private buyers is capitalism. It is a 'private exchange of wealth', which falls under the definition. The goal is (for the one party) the accumulation of 'capital'.

If you include all instances where 'capitalism' is in theory practiced throughout history - you might find yourself with huge mercenary armies, as well as countless assassins or hired provacateurs (think Soros agent types - Soros is a commie in this case - but the idea of people buying violence for their own cause is arguably capitalism, as the people on the other side are exchanging their 'violence' for 'capital') - and under such a definition you would probably find that 'Capitalism' is a larger killer than any other 'ideology'.

… I do think that's unfair though, and that it should probably be limited to nations living under a 'capitalist' system; just as we are only including those living under a communist system (otherwise we might include countless tribal wars as 'nationalists' or the innumerable proto-communist heresies as 'communist'; and it becomes near impossible to calculate). Still there are certainly people within capitalist nations who have hired private paramilitary forces and assassins. You cannot say no one has died because of capitalist ideas.

… Good job on completely misinterpreting what I said though.

Exchanging violence for capital is not capitalism. That's called a fucking crime you marxist retard.

Exchanging any service for capital is arguably capitalism. Yes it is illegal in many "capitalist" (more socialist tbh) countries today, but it being illegal is not part of the definition of capitalism in any way; just as killing jews is not a part of national socialism, nor killing everyone a part of communism. It is a consequence of the ideology.

An ideology that values capital before all else and encourages people to exchange their services to private buyers will lead to people selling their swords. There are instances of assassins and mercenaries throughout history. How fucking retarded are you that you do not understand this? Capitalism is such a huge umbrella term that it can include more or less any transaction that is done solely for capital gain by one party. This mindset has been rife throughout history, though not necessarily defined then as 'capitalism'; and it has led to countless deaths.

… If we are only counting nations living under a self-defined (or comparable) capitalist system; then we still have instances of private assassins, paramilitary forces and so on. The death toll in this case is going to be nowhere near that of the other ideologies; but you cannot say it has not caused people to die.

Take away the holohoax Numbers and then the deaths from the war itself how many deaths
Remain

You realize we already have a board for your types, right?

Capitalism is not simply "the exchange of services" It is "The exchange of services voluntarily"
Please explain to me how someone shooting another person in the back of the head is a voluntary service exchange.

The "service" is the person who wants the victim dead exchanging money with a person willing to kill them. You dumb nigger?

Don't you have an article for Buzzfeed to write?

Probably about 300,000 from starvation caused by bombing of supply lines, granted the Germans were still somewhat at fault for imprisoning them in the first place, but so were the allies for purposefully bombing the supply lines to the camps.

If a service is predicated upon a non-voluntary interaction induced on another individual it's not voluntary.
You dumber nigger.

It is VOLUNTARY.

Say mister Adams wants to have Mister Jefferies killed. Mister Adams approaches Mister Dawson and offers him money in order to kill Mister Jefferies.

Mister Dawson voluntarily accepts the deal, and kills Mister Jefferies; receiving capital from Mister Adams in exchange for his service. His service being that he killed Mister Jefferies.

Here let me explain this in terms even a retard like you can understand
This aspect is voluntary
This is not voluntary

How fucking retarded do you have to be to understand that the act of shooting someone in the fucking skull is not a voluntary service?

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Explain how National Socialism would keep people from doing exactly those things, then.

People don't go after money because it's money, they go after it because it's worth something. But there will always be humans who are seeking after something. There will be people who want to gain power for themselves, or secure a better position for their own children. As a general rule it can nearly always be said that people as a whole will never, in fact, stop caring about anything more than what is biologically drilled into them at a primal level - themselves and the future of their offspring. For an entire nation to have a single-minded devotion to the nation over themselves is simply not possible.

One of the aspects involved in National Socialism is a central government with public officials running it. There is absolutely nothing stopping the very same sorts of people who seek after political power in any government to come into this one. There is absolutely nothing to prevent the inevitable decay that comes with every system. This is a matter which humans have struggled with for centuries as long as we have had the written word. It was a pattern which was charted by Plato over two thousand years ago and continues to be followed to this day; which was charted by John Glubb in the past century, and shown to match with every great nation of the world.

Socialism (Marxism) attempts to avert this by removing a centralization of powers and distributing it among the people. Of course, this inevitably fails in every attempt, especially on the wider scale. It's a philosophy which is simply impossible to maintain at perfectly a scale smaller than perhaps a single village where all within know each other.

Socialism by nature is a system with potential that grows inversely proportional to the population size, while capitalism is one with potential which grows directly proportional to the size of the nation. The difference being that large scale operations of central control will always collapse, while small scale operations of capitalism will at least function, albeit with questionably less efficiency than a simple barter system.

Simple economics will demonstrate these things. Nearly anyone you meet who calls themselves a "(x) socialist" lacks any form of education in that field of study.

Facebook tier thread.

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All shills can go back to leftpol now

Dawson is not a slave. Dawson is someone who has decided to voluntarily offer his services in exchange for capital.


I'm not actually criticising capitalism, nor am I promoting marxism, and you're right that such scenarios can take place within national socialism seeing as they encourage private exchanges in a 'capitalist' way (so long as it is not harmful to this nation - so I guess as long as they're only assassinating muslims or jews or blacks or something - that way its not harmful to the nation, just removing filth).

The guy I'm arguing with is just saying that the ideology of capitalism has never caused any deaths, which is absurd.

Oh my fucking christ you're a dense motherfucker
Here let me try making it more obvious

DAWSON IS DELIVERING A SERVICE NON VOLUNTARILY TO THE INDIVIDUAL HE IS KILLING

He is not delivering a service to that person at all. He is delivering a service to the person who hired him.

The person getting killed is irrelevant in all ways to the transaction - except that due to our topic being 'has capitalism ever caused anyone to die' - his death resulting from the capitalist transaction proves that capitalism CAN and HAS caused people to die.

Grow a brain.

how exactly do these stats put Nazism in a good light

Go fuck yourself you worthless shill. Go back and suck on your buddy karls beard.

Ah yes, good old Hitler, promoting class struggle. Truly a hero of Holla Forums

National Socialism is merely Marxism + Ethnonationalism.

Forgot my sage

Well, would you look at that. The famous Strasser quote purposely misattributed to Hitler incessantly by Mises tier drones.

"We are Socialists, enemies, mortal enemies of the present capitalist economic system with its exploitation of the economically weak, with its injustice in wages, with its immoral evaluation of individuals according to wealth and money instead of responsibility and achievement, and we are determined under all circumstances to abolish this system ! And with my inclination to practical action it seems obvious to me that we have to put a better, more just, more moral system in its place, one which, as it were, has arms and legs and better arms and legs than the present one !" "Thoughts about the Tasks of the Future" - by Gregor Strasser - 1926 June 15

Won't even bother with the others when you're so content with spreading disinformation

Are you saying that capitalism cannot have 'victims'? So only those corporate take-overs never happened? What about an example of… American businessmen pays a large amount for a piece of farmland, the farmer voluntarily accepts because the payment benefits him; the businessmen then turns it into a casino (or whatever). Turns out that without that farm, a load of people die.

There are victims here, and they died. Now this is a slightly more complex scenario than an assassin, but it still works. It is also a very similar scenario to the Holodomor which we all count as kills for Communism.

… Are you really saying that you cannot have victims in capitalism? Where on earth do you get such a retarded definition from? As long as the people conducting business are doing so voluntarily, it is capitalism. A capitalist society is one that facilitates such trade between private persons.

Oh sorry I got one quote out of 4 wrong.

Your example is kind of shit seeing as how no one has starved(excluding freakish crimes like being imprisoned and starved to death, or being lost in a desert) in the US since the 1890s.
In any case, you are not owed food, That is someone else's labor, if that labor doesn't exist that is not the fault of capitalism, that is the basic natural state of scarcity.
The holodomor was the violent murder of thousands of farmers, that then caused the starvation of individuals. The difference is that the action taken was violent and as such there is a definitive aspect of guilt on those who took part.

Additionally, the only societies which exist in the modern world with large scale starvation are socialist countries, or wartorn hellscapes created by zionist demagogues.


You're just taking the name of "corporate takeover" and presuming that means something violent. Corporate takeovers are voluntary interactions between stock-owners someone "Losing" in business is not the same as someone being a "victim" again, you're purposely misinterpreting terms to fit your ideology.

No, someone can be murdered in a capitalist society, but that is not the fault of capitalism.
Capitalism in it's very nature is opposed to violent action, saying otherwise is either a misunderstanding or marxist manipulation of terms.

But communism does not dictate that you HAVE TO murder people. It never specifies killing people. The ideology just naturally leads to that, and taking away the possessions from their owners (for instance taking farms from the farmers - and being forced to kill them because the farmers initially told them to fuck off [this is happening in Zimbabwe and South Africa right now - communist filth should all be killed]).

My argument here is that capitalism has led to deaths in those instances where people desperate for capital (or with a specific skill set) have offered their services of killing to anyone who will compensate them for it. Capitalism does not tell them to kill; but capitalism does encourage private individuals to offer their services in exchange for capital - which is what is happening with the assassin.

Both ideologies can and have led to people being killed because of what they encourage. Neither specifically tell people to kill anyone; but both still have caused death.

How and why? Violence is never mentioned in any definition. It is a system of economics. Just like any other it can lead to violence and death, and in some cases has done.

It is by no means as bad as communism, and in general I prefer capitalism to anything else. That does not mean the ideology has never encourage or facilitated killing though - it most certainly has.

Why do you throw a tantrum every time someone criticises your shitheap of a political system, rather than realize it's a problem you need to fix?

The ideology does specifically tell them to kill people.
If an ideology says to steal someone's property, and those people refuse violently, the logical end is murder.
That is a logical 100% ironclad conclusion of basic socialist principles.

Capitalism doesn't just not tell people to kill anyone, it specifically is against it.
It seems like you're using the marxist definition of capitalism. The true definition of capitalism(as used by capitalists) is voluntary(I.E. nonviolent) interaction and trade of goods. If you can't understand that basic definition then there's nothing I can do other than reiterating it over and over in simpler terms.

There is no violence between the man hiring the assassin, and the assassin. The violence is what he is being paid for. It is an entirely voluntary transaction between the two.

There is no violence between the farmer and the businessman buying his land. The farmer is voluntary selling his land, which will cause death later on.

Capitalism has always included services. Services can range from driving a car for someone, to providing them with medicine, to assassinating people. There is no line in any definition of capitalism that says the service provided must be non-violent.

In fact we have lobbyists giving money to the government to fight wars so as to keep gas prices cheap. Capitalism. No violence between the gas company lobbyists and the military; its violence from the military to the people trying to stop them from having cheap access to the oil.

Ok you're just a fucking obvious shill at this point.
The nonvoluntary interaction is between the assassin and the target.
Fuck yourself.

McDonalds buys out Burger King. In the process Pablo loses his job. Pablo suffers, Pablo had no voluntary involvement in the selling of the business, Pablo still suffers.

Pablo's voluntary participation is fucking irrelevant. The transaction is between the person exchanging capital to the person providing the service.

No one is owed a fucking job you shill.
You want to cry to someone go cry to the nature of the universe. Your fucking marxist feelings doesn't make scarcity disappear.

I'll reiterate the most important part of my previous statement.
Go fuck yourself.

I know i said i wasn't going to bother with the others but i can't help myself when jackasses act smug.

Quote from Hermann Rauschning's "Hitler Speaks"


>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Rauschning#Authenticity_of_Hitler_Speaks


Both from Otto Wagener's "Hitler: Memoirs of a Confidant" published years after his death. I'm sure no would attempt to lie even more about the most lied man of the 20th century, even so, it is still hearsay, not from the man himself.

Why is anyone owed their life? That is not a part of capitalism. I love how much this seems to be hurting you. You're clearly not from around here, haha.

People having self ownership is the literal founding definition of capitalism.
If you don't think that people have self ownership, i'll do you the favor of not having to live on this planet anymore.

also
How much do they pay you?

HOW DO YOU NOT FUCKING GET IT.

The transaction is not between the person getting killed directly/indirectly. It is between the man giving the money and the assassin/farmer he is getting his assassination/casino from.

Capitalism is not defined as "voluntary transactions" It is defined as "voluntary interractions"
Murdering someone is a fucking nonvoluntary interraction, go back to sucking soros's cock. It's obvious to everyone here that you're a D&C shill.

So hitler's main rival outwardly spoke as such, and there are multiple accounts of him doing so as well, which is directly reflected in his action of taking federal defacto control over all business.
Wow I guess hitler really loved the free market then.

I wish someone was paying me for that, but seeing as more or less the entire existence of Holla Forums has been based around using logic to explain reality; I have a feeling that whoever started that business would soon go broke as thousands of us signed up for it.

I think you're just being purposefully stupid, but if not well… I'm sorry I guess. Better luck next life?

The voluntary 'interaction' is between the man buying the service and the man selling the service. The man buying the assassination and the man providing the assassination. The businessman buying the farm from the farmer.

The victim of the assassin's voluntary participation in the interaction between the assassin and the man hiring him; IS IRRELEVANT. Just as Pablo's voluntary participation as an employee of Burger King is irrelevant to the owners of McDonalds and Burger King who are buying/selling the businesses. Just as little Jimmy who will starve to death from the selling of the farm is irrelevant to the 'voluntary interaction' between the farmer and the businessman.

Hey jackass, since you're apparently either infantile in basic reasoning ability you're actually a shill or literally retarded, let me explain really fucking simple like

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I've always found killcount comparisons to be the political equivalent of waving a huge blinking "I HAVE A LOW IQ" sign.
An ideology that kills 6 million problems is better than one that imports as many.
Grow the fuck up, stop being an eternal good goyim who eats up all the Jewish memes like "inherent human value".

Fascism is not an emotional ideology, it's neither collectivist nor individualist, it's organic.
Anyone who is capable of being useful to the human genome deserves to be alive, others are not necessary, and if keeping the unnecessary alive comes at the cost of dragging the good genes down, only one solution is possible.

A society that normalizes mediocrity is doomed to fail. Mediocrity needs to be kept out of the intelligent society, and if that's not possible, exterminated.
Over the last 2 thousand years we tried to make mediocre people improve, it never once worked.
And who keeps telling you to try anyways? Mediocre people.

The voluntary interaction is only between the person exchanging capital for the service/item. It is not for anyone who might be impacted by the exchange or the service.

The voluntary interaction is only between the person exchanging capital for the service/item, and the person providing the service/item. It is not for anyone who might be impacted by the exchange or the service.

You're just making up incomprehensible bullshit.
You're proposing that just because there was a voluntary action along the way, that makes the entire action OK.
Obviously, by any basic reason this is incorrect.
The Nonvoluntary interaction is the murder itself.
It doesn't fucking matter if previously there was a voluntary interaction.

Stop shilling, you're terrible at it.

What a sad excuse for a response and you still have the nerve to act smug.

Why didn't Hitler tell the German industrialists to fuck off then when they voiced their concerns over the more radical economic faction of the NSDAP which Hitler eventually had killed?

No and I've never made that claim.

I agree, it is not okay. But it is capitalism.
Just because it is not morally okay, does not mean it is not capitalism. Capitalism is not a moral system, it is not about ethics; its about economy, about trade and transactions.
This has nothing to do with the transaction though. It has nothing to do with trade. It has nothing to do with the economic system of capitalism. Capitalism is about trade, it is about the dealings of two individuals; a transaction, a trade, an interaction where one exchanges goods/services voluntarily for capital. Morality does not enter into it.
It doesn't make it 'right'. I agree. Its still capitalism though.

Because he realized the basic principle that the soviets didn't, If you kill off the industrialists the industry dies immediately as opposed to slowly over time from lack of competition(like in the US)

You are entirely wrong. Capitalism from a philosophical sense is entirely based on the concept of self ownership which inherently is a moral stance.
You are again just using the marxist definition of capitalism used to defame capitalists.

I'm not defaming capitalists. I'm telling you capitalism has led to people dying and giving you extremely easy to understand examples so that your tiny brain might just comprehend something that most toddlers can fathom.

Capitalism is vastly superior to communism but that does not mean it has never led to people dying. That is what we're arguing about here. You are misunderstanding the concept of 'voluntary interaction' and applying it to an irrelevant third-party individual; capitalism is about 'fair' transactions between private individuals, and because one person gets what they want in the form of goods/service, and the other is compensated with capital; it works very well as both parties leave satisfied.

It is not a moral system that seeks to preserve life and keep people from getting hurt, killed or deprived of food. It does not care about that, it is not about that.

It doesn't fucking matter if the person is not related to a specific transaction you moron.
There is a nonvoluntary interaction
It is a fucking nonvoluntary interaction
That means
lets go through this
If (nonvoluntary interaction)=1 capitalism =0
If (nonvoluntary interaction)=0 capitalism =1

Well based on this basic fucking logic matrix I just made, that's not a fucking capitalistic interaction.
Wow, that sure was hard.

The interaction is TRADE. The interaction that is specified is not ANY interaction. It is the interaction between the buyer and the seller; the person purchasing goods/services and the person providing the goods/services.

The interaction is not ANY interaction. Who the fuck told you this stuff? Are American schools really that shit?

Or perhaps he wasn't a fucking Marxist like you claim he was and would generally support private business unless said business' goals didn't align with the well being of the nation as a whole.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preussentum_und_Sozialismus#Rebuke_of_Marxism_and_definition_of_.22true_socialism.22

Lol, let me guess, "corporatism not capitalism" no, it's just capitalism.

How fucking stupid are you?
If there is AT ANY FUCKING POINT ALONG THE LINE A NONVOLUNTARY INTERRACTION BETWEEN TWO SENTIENT BEINGS, IT DOES NOT FALL UNDER THE DEFINITION OF CAPITALISM
Fuck yourself and your marxist definitions shill.

So defacto public control over all production, I.E. socialism.
Also, no, the US isn't capitalist or "corporatist", it is a mix of socialism and fascism.

What did i just say?

Okay, you got me good, well trolled my man.

You know capitalist nations had slavery, right? … I get that you just misunderstood the meaning of the word 'interaction' now. Don't feel too bad lad, English can be a complex language.

Good lack of argument.
The US has socialist aspects
And fascistic aspects
As benito mussolini stated "Fascism is the intertwining of business and state"
You're a fucking child who has no clue what he's talking about.

You realize that the definition of capitalism came about after slavery was abolished, right?
Shill harder.

8/pol/ was so much better before it got infested by NEETSocs because of the second exodus.
Fucking socialist leeches.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_capitalism

UK abolished slavery in 1833
US abolished slavery in 1865


You're wrong, nigger.

Also, the fact that an otherwise capitalistic country(The US in the early 1800's) had slavery is not the fault of capitalism, as that is an aspect that is not capitalistic. But please, just continue manipulating definitions.

I'm pretty sure most of them aren't even from the second exodus, there were a lot less even months after the exodus, Probably a concerted effort to shill 8pol from SF, like they used to do in cuckchan.

see the first response, I don't care to rephrase it.

you know how the jew twists the facts saying "Islamic terrorism has killed 2 people on US soil in the past 10 years" or some shit like that. Well. Nazis have killed 0 people in the past 60 years in the world.

Isn't Breivik a Natsoc? That seems like it could count for at least like 80.

No, he's a Knights Templar agent who works with gypsies. It's on wikileaks.

Well if you say so. Seemed like a false flag to me anyways.

>it was war, the (((allied high command))) can be excused for killing those 2000 germans
>dresden was a vitally important military target and those 200 victims were a necessity in a completely ruined and defeated country a few days before the town was captured by the russians
>if they hadn't been evil nahtzees, those 20 gestapo criminals would merely have been imprisonned instead of burned alive

the 25k deaths number was shat by SJW-tier liberal germans in 2010 who had instructions to teach nationalist bad goys that their anger at the (((global elites))) is entierely misplaced and that they should be more multicultural
the death toll was between 240000 and 600000 as ascertained by german or russian sources, or any honest historian who spoke about it more than 10 years ago

may you get enriched by a rabid mudslime

Jeremiah, you are a massive newfag.
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Evidence points to the fact that OP likely compiled the image in the OP himself, and then in the 2nd post he made pretended that it wasn't him that made the picture assuming that the user was asking about the @legofreak446 in the image and not the email in the email field. In short, he's a self-promoting faggot.
THIS ISN'T FUCKING FACEBOOK
Additionally, in one of his videos, Jeremiah said "Nazism killed 25 million people, and that's including the Holocaust." And the real icing on the cake is this fucking profile picture on his Soundcloud account. Fucking Israeli flag in the background.

Cuckchan really is invading, isn't it.

Sad.

Also nice ID dubs.

When famines struck, they kill millions upon millions. Also consider this is both the USSR, with its state-sponsored famines, NKVD, etc., and China, with its Red Guard and "Great Leap Forward", over a period of many decades. It isn't sustained daily.
The population growth argument is my favourite, too, because it makes my case: measly 1 or so percent growth over the time frame in play is horrendous.

maybe thats why hitlertards lost

They lost because the Muslim FDR dragged the US into supporting the enemies of civilization.

The key is that after two days without food, you start killing politicians. No more famines.

here,
==sage==.

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I don't think it refers to capitalism since before Adam Smith.

Great underestimation, plus Islam was in its peak when the global population was still small.

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