How come no one wants to talk about the fact that Marx and Engels had racial theories?

How come no one wants to talk about the fact that Marx and Engels had racial theories?

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No.

what kind of shit is this ?

Think: Dugin meets Mary Daly

they were pretty anti racist by the time standards tho

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Back to /pol, xenophobe.

Race is a social construct, fabricated by bourgeois fashists.
There are races within other animal species with distinct features, but not in humans.

I guess saying whites and blacks are a different sub-species might be offensive.

Not to mention it was written BEFORE Marx became a communist.

There is still ancestry tho

I agree "race" - as in calling people out on their skincolor - is folklore but ancestry is pretty real, as well in the animal kingdom. Would you deny different breeds of dogs exist?

You mean racial ''hypotheses". Theories require evaluation of evidence and the such, you know real science. This is why muh racialist theory and muh critical theory are bullshit. They ignore all evidence that doesn't fit or use convoluted methods to arrive at their per-conceived conclusions. It's cargo cult science.

Because nobody cares about the side views Marx and Engels had as a 19th century european. We don't care about his fetishes either.

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Really makes u think

HOW COME NO ONE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT IN THE 19TH CENTURY PEOPLE USED HORSES AS A MEANS FOR TRANSPORTATION?!?!?!?!?!?

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The real OG nazis also had some radical feminist thinkers, the main theory being that germanic women used to be more like Brynhildr and Lagertha. Shieldmaidens who fought side by side with men and held positions of power.
The fall of the germanic women where the result of jewish sabotage trough the christian church, and especially the witch hunts, which according to them were pretty much a genocide of germanic blonde women.
Obviously the feminazis lost to the more christian conservative part of the party. I like to imagine Hitler being the first person to use feminazi as a derogatory term , but there is no historical record I know of where the word feminazi is used by actual nazis.

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karl marx was a psychopath

I think liberalism came from satanism and feudalism and it is a system of deception and tyranny. Please prove me wrong.

Yet this faggot BTFO'd all future economists, predicted the catastrophic instability of capitalism, predicted revolutions, gave us a radically new way of understanding history, materialism, the constitutive forces of society, so yeah, you totally shouldn't read that fag. Leave it to Satanists.

good worker

The irony is the modern left would reject this man as a conspiracy theorist or something. But really, get more sophisticated. You know who else studied in Britain and started a revolution in Europe? hitler

In fact, if you do enough research you will find all of these revolutionaries were trained by intelligence agencies in the heart of the capitalist west and sent abroad, or at least their organization originates from these places. Why is that?

READ
A
FUCKING
HISTORY
BOOK

to be this young and dumb again. what i would give

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it wasn't a revolution. More magical thinking from the left.

This is what I'm talking about. Leftists are violent and ignorant. That is the essence of satanism.

Ah, I see! So that is why the very same intelligence agencies spent the next decade with the "cold" war, trying to eliminate them. Makes sense. Totally no contradictions here. In fact, let me share with you a little secret. All the posters here in leftypol… dude. We are a huge jewish illuminati internation cabal, sent here by the CIA and Mossad to overthrow the white man's civilization. Mwahaha, and shit, dude!

don't open history books, they were written by US too! Only trust right wing conspiracy sites, and Alex Jones!!

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It litterally was not a revolution. The dude was in the government and used some tricks to make him the ruler.

i don't know about that dude i'm just a communist palestinian atheist dude trying to free his country from jewish imperialism and apartheid to build a secular progressive leftist state.

i fucking hate jews. i know i should be replacing the word jews with zionists but its true, i hate all jews/zionists and think they all belong in the gulag in the exact same ideological cell as isis. well i don't hate those jews that go out of their way to denounce imperialism.

but Jews WERE behind the formation of the ideologies of both capitalism and communism. Let's not forget that capitalism was considered a liberal ideology before communism came about. Jewish kabalism is real and you are being intellectually dishonest when you deny it.

As yuropeans we used to do that as kids too and we didn't even need the money. Kids just love shiny shit, bordering on laws and rules, showing their parents how nifty they were. By that age (6-8) they are totally conscious about the importance of money in our societies yet they have no real clue about the reasons behind it, where it comes from, etc.

so fuck you, you racist scum

I guess Lenin wasn't a revolutionary either then.

fuck you kike

also i don't think you read the bottom of my post:

"i don't hate those jews that go out of their way to denounce imperialism." conscious jews are my comrads

Except that lenin did not use law and trickery, he used violent overthrow by the masses of people.

You know, the definition of a revolution.

I read your whole post, twice. It's the typical right wing contradictory mindset: I hate all jews, yet some jews are OK.

also
wew, buddy

What the hell are you talking about. He literally wrote the book on that subject.

Wow, it's almost like weird people are better at thinking outside of the box.

Lenin literally had the seat of power in the country stormed with troops
Hitler just passed a law that made him leader 4 life

I'm not even advocating Nazism. It's just another type of socialism. It is a new false paradigm.

Don't forget that he once pulled a gun on a policeman.

I like Marx.

Lenin seized the government in a coup and executed the royal family. Who's the bigger monster here?

not to mention he killed about 50 million Christians in a holocaust that is never taught in schools.

He was probably more anti-semetic than most Germans of his time. You should really read his private letters.

Shiggedy

my sides. the fact you see a problem with my only comrads who are jews being the ones who are class conscious workers is hilarious. same goes for muslims. i am sorry if you think hating the sectarian pushing jewish equivalent of isis is "right wing".


whether you like it or not i am one of the last remaining factions of the truly revolutionary left, and i don't like jews.

"Among all the nations and sub-nations of Austria, only three standard-bearers of progress took an active part in history, and are still capable of life – the Germans, the Poles and the Magyars. Hence they are now revolutionary. All the other large and small nationalities and peoples are destined to perish before long in the revolutionary war-storm. … [A general war will] wipe out all these racial trash down to their very names. The next world war will result in the disappearance from the face of the earth not only of reactionary classes and dynasties, but also of entire reactionary peoples. And that, too, is a step forward."
- Friedrich Engels, "The Magyar Struggle," Neue Rheinische Zeitung, January 13, 1849.

Engels shared much of Marx’s racial philosophy. In 1887, Paul Lafargue, who was Marx’s son-in-law, was a candidate for a council seat in a Paris district that contained a zoo. Engels claimed that Paul had “one-eighth or one-twelfth nigger blood.” In an April 1887 letter to Paul’s wife, Engels wrote, “Being in his quality as a nigger, a degree nearer to the rest of the animal kingdom than the rest of us, he is undoubtedly the most appropriate representative of that district.”

kill whitey right. Isn't communism really just the revenge of all those savages who were civilized by colonialism? Brown people are truly evil; immoral and violent animals.

nope

assblasted pseudo-leftist jew detected. kill yourself cancer

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The bolshevik revolution was Jewish, not Russian.

and before you even say it Jews living in Russia (or anywhere) are Jewish first. They do not assimilate and conspire against the native populations wherever they go.

itt: delusion

yours included

Well this went off in a bad direction. My whole idea was to try and dispel some of the delusions of the left (or the right). I'll start: I think Jews are persecuted by the roman catholic church, which is a rival cabal of sorts.

Marx and Engels supposedly got the idea of "class war" from some older French historians that talked about "race war". This didn't have a biological meaning yet (e.g. French aristocrats vs. monarchists). The idea was basically that within society you have two or more different groups, each with their own histories, truths and ways of living, where one of these groups has enslaved the other through some trickery - but the war has never stopped and is still going through all the regulations, laws, propaganda with which the dominant group tries to maintain its domination.
It's a powerful idea that goes directly against today's "progressive" and pacifist ideology of integrating everything into one global hegemonic system.

except that's exactly what bourgeois multiculturalism is. it's the exact opposite of integration. you effectively permanently Otherize people in culturally and sometimes legally enforced separateness.

So did Lenin.
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