Daily reminder that Socialism will only be possible when a class conscious construction worker...

Daily reminder that Socialism will only be possible when a class conscious construction worker, janitor or waiter will still be able to hold their own when debating a mainstream economist, political analyst or bourgeois academic. Until this happens, we're wasting our time.

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Daily reminder that the reason labor power has been fucked six ways from Sunday is a reserve force of unemployed and looming threats of outsourcing. Worker fetishization without accounting for the jobless and precariously employed is foolish. They are all proletariat.

Both of these are correct. Our top priority as leftists should be the education of the proletariat. We need to strive to combat the steady stream of misinformation made by the bourgeois propagandists.

from the masses to the masses we cannot underestimate our fellow man they may not be academics but the can smell bullshit and its up to us to educate them

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Then socialism will not be possible. all those intellectuals gain power with their argument from authority fallacies and use of confusing jargon.

I don't see the elites giving up their elite status in the interest of a fair debate.

We don't need to be able to change their minds, we need proles to be able to understand how they're being manipulated and be able to resist it, so that we can instigate an actual successful revolution.

That's never going to happen then.

The average Joe Blow is always some stupid, uneducated reactionary and is never going to have a comparable understanding of theory compared to university educated PhD's like pic related.

kys faggot

Pardon me for not wanting to call bigots my comrades even if they are working class.

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lol do you think we're going to settle political economy in a debate-team format? This is means to an end. The average person needs not only to have the proper theoretical toolkit to read society and politics from a class-based perspective, but also needs confidence on himself to stand up to the high priests of capitalism.

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wtf we should be talking about ways to educate the masses not arguing about how most working people cant argue with intellectuals, someone doesnt need to be able to argue with an intellectual one one to know why they are wrong

=HELLO FELLOW LEFTISTS INSTENSIFIES==

wtf i hate proles now!

First, of course, we need to educate ourselves. We start from the smallest units and expand from there, always thinking of the next step.

Stop wasting time with debates, the only thing porkies understand is bullets.

yes and learning can be a shared experience! and ask questions even when you dont know much to get people thinking

Good luck starting an armed revolution from your basement, with a social base and popular support.

First you equip the workers with the intellectual tooks to break down the mechanisms of psychological discipline: Ideology, tradition, false consciousness, etc. Only after this happens you move towards the mechanisms of physical discipline.

I see your point and withdraw my criticism.

This shit ends when we force the elites to speak plainly.

so never? since the working classes that do manage to get an education eventually end up despising socialism, communism, marxism and everything they stand for
reminder marxism and socialism are ideas created by the bourgeoisie for the benefit of the working class and has only ever been capable of revolution in nations with crippled economies and poor literacy

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its as funny as the Holla Forums version.

It isn't funny.

People take lolbertarians seriously and their ideology makes no fucking sense if you think about it for more than three seconds

Your taste in comedy is too good for this board, I think you should leave this shithole for reddit or facebook

most people that formed revolutionary parties historically have a background in labor/manual labor, and understand theory as well as they do because they have seen capitalist exploitation in practice, and have a good idea how to implement socialism in practice. Consider that the next revolution will be no different and has no reason to be any different.

If theyre rednecks, i dont think theyre proles - theyre rural farmers and whatnot, sometimes petite bourgoeise.

Proles technically refer to urban workijg class right?

Though redneck is a vague term.

Just give white southerners and american whites in general their own republic. Problem solved, they wont magically lose their racial/national identity so use it for revolutionary purposes - ie "they bourgoeise (or jews depending on who youre talking to) wish to destroy the white rqce for capitalist purposes to promote the fuluyamist end of history viewpoint"

Same meaning, or close enough to the same meaning to be better than nothing

Unlike millennial self-entitled libtards like yourself, rednecks acknowledge that they are not special