Does Holla Forums hate George Orwell?

LMAO, strong delusion there and by the way, I think [a citation is needed]

holy rhetoric, batman

He's awfully overrated. Homage to Catalonia is his best book.

kek

Yeh coz they wuz trots

Anarchist trots.

Just let that sink in.

Anarchists, who want a transitional phase of liberal democracy.

This is how autistic Stalinism was.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orwell's_list

I've always been a big fan of 1984 since I was a child, and later finding out about Homage to Catalonia and his time in Spain made me respect him even more.

I like that idiots think he was an anti communist for Animal Farm, and stalinists hate him for criticising them.

youtube.com/watch?v=3ufTFRGPrCM

Just gonna leave this here.

Far from as profound as he's thought of, although definitely had his heart in the right place. Opposition to Stalinism was admirable, but he was himself not much more than your typical 'socialism with a human face' type figure – little more to him than good fiction and romanticism.

what would be wrong with a socialist united states of Europe?

You sound like you have never read one of his many insightful and accurate essays, maybe that you've never even heard of them

Nothing at all; it's actually one of the most admirable and bold statements of his in the British press.

I've read most of his famous novels during my later years in college and have also read Homage a few years ago.

The 'if you disagree with X, you haven't read X or don't really understand X!' meme needs to die already TBH.

good worker.

The point is that 99% of the time the argument is used it's not because people aren't properly educated enough to make a statement, but rather because simple disagreement can never be just that: a rational subject's take on something.

Tankies HATE him but he did spoil his legacy by being a McCarthyite snitch.

What he says in Road to Wigan Pier about socialists is still relevant today. Pic example

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He said,

That's not what I'm saying though, a large portion of his work is neither fiction or romanticism, which leads me to believe you haven't looked at it. It's not even close to being either

idky people shit on 1984, it's a good look at the inner logic of a totalitarian society.

No, but George Orwell being appropriated by lolbertarians sucks

His stories are weak, and Animal Farm (especially) is shit, playing into the usual right-wing myths that Marx and Stalin were besties and practically synonymous, and the people were lead along as (literal) lambs to the slaughter.
Plus, he was a snitch.

Fuck Orwell.

After witnessing how the Stalinists fucked Spain and lost it he didn't like Stalinists.

What a fucking surprise.

No, he was a good man who made a mistake.

In his slight defense, the vast majority of British Communists in the early 1940s were hugely pro-Stalin. He feared that a Communist takeover in Britain would lead to similar atrocities.

Damning evidence from a corrupt government that Blake was a pedo Orwell was an informant published a few decades after everybody who knew him shit the bed at a time when his works were and are being used to criticize that government's actions wow fancy that. I guess I better disregard everything he ever wrote because he did a bad thing and start trusting that government implicitly because he said not to and he was bad. :^)

yogapig stop banning IPs you fucking retard everybody's on the same proxies and you're nuking half the userbase trying to remove pedo please, some mental defective tell me in the Orwell thread how I should turn off my proxies because if I have nothing to hide I have nothing to fear

For some reasons, liberals like Sargon are obsessed with his 1984 even tho he was a libertarian socialist.

He was pretty homophobic but I suppose that was a product of his time

1984 is an Atlas Shrugged of the left
boring novel with all critics saying what an eye-opening experience it is

Isaac Asimov was the only one who didn't ride Orwell's dick
newworker.org/ncptrory/1984.htm

I thought it was okay. It was slow, and when I was a liberal I thought Animal Farm was rly cool.

this tbh

nevermind the message "don't change anything it will only become worse"
it was at least entertaining to read
plus metaphore of farm as socium is great

It seemed more like the message was "designing a system that gives a tyrant the opportunity to take power should be avoided even if done with good intentions." It seemed like he portrayed Lenin(who I remember as being Snowball?) as being a good guy.

I thought Snowball was Trotsky.

Yeah, I thought Major was Lenin.

The way I saw it
Snowball= Trotsky
Napoleon= Stalin
Old Major= ?
I want to say Old Major is Lenin, but he shares more characteristics with Marx, I think.

Apparently, according to Wikipedia, Snowball is an amalgamation of Lenin and Trotsky and Major is an amalgamation of Marx and Lenin.

Worked for the Stasi. Multiple informers per agent makes for a fairly efficient system.
Asimov plz. The war on drugs had changed all that by the mid-1980s, SWAT teams were a thing, and they were hardly used against "urban terrorists".
True.
I think he was wrong there. It doesn't appeal as much as being a stupid asshole. Post-modernists on the other hand…

leftypol never ceases to amaze me

You don't have to hold someone's political views to like their work.

We argue with the dead every day, user. Marx will tell you the same.