How does one raise a kid, being a leftist? I'm an anti-natalist of course, but there are always kids who need to be adopted. I figure if I ever have the financial ability, I will try to take on some of that demand (handling kids is also something I'm naturally good at and immensely enjoy). What are Holla Forums's thoughts on best practices for parenting?
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Cooper Davis
inb4 CUCK CUCK CUCK
Joseph Campbell
You don't have them in the first place
Isaiah Price
What my parents did, and what I think was successful, was expose me really only to learning, present it as fun, worthy of praise etc. You want to develop an enjoyment of not only being right, but in the learning process as well. You should also give your child freedom to explore avenues that they find interesting, and expose them to the opportunities they have.
I'm sure this'll be a controversial opinion, but fuck it who needs it. I know a lot of kids who were disciplined who ended up having real psychological dependency issues and instead of having a teen rebellious phase, ended up revolting against their parents later in life.
Send the kids to a nursery or pre-school or whatever you call it. Have friends yourself. Go to the park. Encourage them to talk to others while they're young and have little sense of shame.
No porn of course. It's unhealthy.
Dunno
Have them read Tolstoy so they learn that there are no truly evil people.
I guess I already covered this.
Sign them up to a sport when they're young, like football or track running.
As if I know how to parent lol
Nathan Rodriguez
stop
Don't treat your kid like he is retarded and let him make dicisions and have opinions, but correct or make them for him in places he is not able to yet. Also, try to trick them into making a choice between 2 options you approve or make them do stuff out of their free will. Don't order around etc.
Lots of books, stimulus, dont hide information from them, praise effort and not talent.
Disciplining your children is only necessary in some situations, you should not let your child think he can do whatever he wants.
Colton Kelly
Like a normal parent but you actually take what you say about proper behaviour seriously.
Matthew Campbell
well first you start off by feeding them a nutrition deficient vegan diet. If they survive the next step is teach them to check their muh privilege.
Blake Powell
Hello fellow leftists at what age did you teach your daughter to worship BBC? I was going to do it once she turned 10 but my life partner who I co habitate with that I also have a open relationship told me it has to start at the age of 5. Her muslim Moroccan boyfriend agreed.
What is the radical anticapitalist Hegelian approach to solving this problem, Holla Forums?
Kevin Moore
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Angel Cox
I specifically left the word vague because there's two types of discipline: "disciplining" a kid, i.e. coercing them to behave how you want, and teaching discipline which is self-mastery.
No.
preach, my nigga I got shat on hard by my parents with this. They only ever praised talent, and would scold me for putting in effort to learn new things instead of cruising with things I was naturally good at.
Jace Nguyen
Bash your kid verbally and otherwise with the importance of getting a "proper education" characterize learning as a chore that you hate and he should hate too but he should put up with regardless.That's what good people do, they put up with little shitty things like them.
Make sure to belittle and berate your kid at most points, if he cries , hit him until he stops then some more, so he learns not to cry.Make sure to state why you are hitting him. You are the parent and are entitled to exclusive right to decide what your kid does, says and thinks, enforce it.
Make sure your kid doesn't do anything you don't like doing yourself.It is his role to be a validation of your own perceived present values so punish him whenever he shows interest in anything you don't like.That said , television is an exception.You don't want to actually spend time with your shitty little yoke. Sit him in front of the TV whenever you get the chance and make it clear to him you are relieving yourself from his intolerable presence.
Your kid , your rules. Whenever your kid can make a decision make sure there is always the threat of abuse(physical or otherwise) should he betray your expectations. Do NOT make your expectations explicit, you need to encourage an attitude of dependence and servitude, he should be EAGER to please you and seek your approval.
Outrageous.Apply abuse until the conflict is "resolved". Make sure to berate and belittle the kid while doing so, so it's clear to him this is HIS FAULT and " HE IS A BAD PERSON" and " HE IS DESTROYING YOUR LIFE" Whenever conflict arises make yourself out the victim, as if the slightest disagreement was so aggravating and painful to you you could kill yourself over it.Beat and berate your kid over it, instead. You don't like hitting your kid (well maybe you do) but "HE HAS TO LEARN" and you know it's for his own good. Guilt is for bad parents who let their kids do what they want.
"Independence"? See previous point and apply more force to your hits if it doesn't work.
Your kid will get sick regularly, it happens to every kid.However you don't have to suffer for it. If you have been doing your job diligently up to now, he will be dead scared of expressing any discomfort and that's how you want it. You are an adult and keen enough to understand when he is sick or not, he is not. Make sure to drive this point with as much force as required, lest he embarrass you by expressing discomfort/showing symptoms in front of other people.
Oh and while "driving the points in" and in every interaction with your kid make sure he knows you are a great parent , not like those others that beat their kids. Gauge his response and apply violence until you get the correct one.
Remember, you never laid a finger on your kid and poured all of your love unto him, you have no idea how he turned this dysfunctional and such a psychological train wreck. You are en exemplar parent who, by chance, unfortunately,were cursed with a defective kid.
———— I honestly don't know why i haven't killed my parents yet.
Brandon Turner
Tell me about your mother.
Ryder Reed
Already did. My other parent, my father was there but not really. His roles was to stand near our interactions(including beatings) in his power-pose, legs apart arms crossed , and punch me with the full force of an adult if i showed "disrespect" or didn't scrape enough, or cowered from my mother's hits. That and stopping my mother ,in her parenting enthusiasm, from hitting me in obvious places or with too much force lest I have visible wounds or need medical attention.
Adrian Sanchez
Of course!
Ryder Jenkins
N A T A L I S M
Jonathan Martinez
Send them to school, but also read to them and encourage them to learn things that interest them or explore artistic bents. The point is to know the kid and make sure he/she grows and learns in a way he/she likes instead of being pumped full of one size fits all bullshit.
If they fuck up be firm, but don't beat the shit out of them and try to teach them instead of punish.
Let them hang out with their friends and do what they enjoy within reason.
Hard to say, but gate certain stuff till they're of age. Like a 3 year old shouldn't watch Clockwork Orange or porn.
Let them make their own decisions when possible. They need to learn to think for themselves and helicoptering will impede that.
Let them deal with it on their own. I'm not gonna be there all the time for them, they need to learn how to solve conflicts on their own.
By letting them be independent and seeing the value of interdependence.
Give them the information they need. If they choose to be fat fucks I can't do anything to stop them but they are gonna know they're going to die younger and be miserable.
Leo King
Why not?
Ryder Phillips
Because I don't think a toddler should be watching rape or explicit fucking. Call it spooky or whatever, but I think that should wait until puberty.
Gavin Cooper
Home-school or private/Catholic school.
Decidedly keep them away from degenerate and loser kids.
Ban television, only let them watch Fascist-approved movies. Liberal trash should only be used as a cautionary tale.
Educate the child in logic and reason, but explain that you are still an authority figure who will make decisions which they, due to their age, will not understand, yet which you intend to be in their best interest. Foster trust.
Obviously one shouldn't beat children senseless and non-violent conflict resolution is to be preferred, but don't be the effete homo you are, with "time-outs" and such. I personally view some spanking as beneficial, but, again, non-violent exercise of authority is preferred. Teach the child to seek your approval.
Independence from society at large, interdependence within the peer group. Society is one big cloaca, but loyalty and friendship are of great importance for a person's development. Teach the child to choose his peers wisely. The family is the first, natural ingroup.
No trans fats, no sugary shit, lots of fiber. Animal fat and red meat are OK, contrary to the hysterical fear-mongering of vegans. Also, teach him to despise vegans.
Carson Wilson
Still didn't explain why. I think kids shouldn't be coddled and "protected" from any kind of art but naturally they should not be forced to watch things they are uncomfortable with either. Allow them to self-select the content that they are comfortable with, essentially.
James Turner
my nigger
Eli Barnes
god damn it I need to watch rest of that show.
Julian Howard
Doesn't it bother you that the only societies in which anti-Natalism is present are also the only ones who give a shit about environmentalism.
M'buku M'kembe in the Congo with his 12 children isn't going to give two wet fucks about your precious "Earth" when you're gone.
Alexander Taylor
To build on this (for some perspective my dad's abusive and my mom's pretty excellent and my extended family is generally reactionary)- Make sure your kid likes learning and feels encouraged to work towards it. I think I read somewhere that a delinquent is almost never made past third grade. You need to be there for them early on. Teach them to question everything others expect them to believe. Basically what my husband said. I see no reason why talking with your kids won't ultimately be more productive. People they respect being disappointed in them will be punishment enough. Nothing really to contribute. Teach them not to do cringy shit for their own sake, not because of what others might think, and to be confident in themselves. The important thing is to let kids make their own mistakes because that's the only way they'll ever learn, not by having your opinions drilled into their head. If they think they can handle an R rated movie they can probably handle an R rated movie. The worst thing that will happen is some nightmares. No porn at least until their balls drop/female equivalent. What Rebel said, there are no evil people. No comment. Make sure they get their phuggin' exercise. Diet is vital. Make real breakfast for them and teach them to cook. I have a good counter-example, I think I'd be a pretty good parent.
Isaiah Lewis
That's not natalism. Natalism is "reproducing is not morally wrong". You're describing a real problem, but it's not natalism.
Gavin Howard
teach them that it's designed to make them stupid enroll them in public school and encourage them to rebel and get their friends to rebel by spending school time studying things that interest them and really matter with their phones encourage them to swear a the teachers and start shit so the other kids think they're cool make sure they understand the power of the individual and teach them how to organize protests like walk-outs always be a model parent at parent-teacher conferences and schoolboard meetings, offer good constructive criticsm on how to improve education, act like my kid(s) get their crazy ideas from elsewhere (very easy if they're adopted)
always teach them they have radical freedom and that the most important skill they will ever learn is to overcome their personal barriers to do what they rationally decide is best
get them to be aggressive at making friends of all ages show them the value of friends you can rely on teach them the power of a social network with similar goals and ideas
teach them to read asap and make sure they can get to a library find actual educational shit on youtube or whatever and show them, the algorithms those sites use are based on viewing history so there's a lot of inertia you can establish early on that will continue (suggested videos being more of the same stuff you start with)
teach how to negotiate by example teach how to see other people's perspective
same as above
already covered in socializing, but also teach how systems especially economic systems work
feed them best quality food available and encourage them to be gym buddies with me make sure they understand nutrition fundamentals
Angel Taylor
He's also poor as fuck and won't consume nearly the same volume of resources as a first-world baby.
Xavier James
Come to think of it, that's a good point: his children will suffer tremendously, whereas the average White baby will have a good life.
Shouldn't we encourage anti-Natalism in the Third World for this reason?
Brody Wood
It probably wouldn't work. Birth rate and standard of living are very reliably negatively correlated. My point was that babies being born has less of an environmental effect in third-world countries.
Asher Parker
Just put something into their drinking water to sterilize them.
Noah Moore
Not him but I would wait to let them self select until around 5 just because you can't really sit down and talk about what they see when they're too young and if you can't actually talk to your kid about it all they'll have is the visceral response and internalize that without any serious context which fuck them up
William Reed
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Daniel Davis
spanking… over and over again…
Brayden Gomez
I think it's only edgy nihilist who are anti-natalist. If you are fertile and have a gf pump her up and raise your children as glorious comrades.
Owen Anderson
Anti-natalists are retards and I would like to gulag them, but they're never going anywhere with their non-ideology because reproduction is a pretty hard biological imperative to overcome in a society.
Gabriel Martin
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Colton Lee
1. the emphasis is on transhumanism 2. It's not genetic, but not everyone can/wants to adopt children, being anti-natalist is slow suicide
Noah Parker
transhomo is meme tier anyway tbh fam
Andrew Perry
not in a couple decades it won't be
Luis Clark
This sounds like a depressingly accurate, if extreme, description of how the majority of parents treat their kids.
Logan Campbell
Can is an argument. Want is not. What you want has exactly no bearing at all on what is productive for leftism.
Bentley Butler
Rape and violence, sure. A 3 year old could be really upset by that stuff. Puberty is a bit too late, possibly, but it will vary from child to child.
Conventional sex and even non-violent fetishes should be fine though. Despite what the popular spooks would have you believe, no child is going to be emotionally scarred just from seeing some people doing lewd stuff. The damage is caused by how the child perceives the people around them reacting to what they're seeing and the fact they're seeing it. It should come as no surprise that if the parents act like the kid has just been violently raped, the kid is going to be a bit scared and confused. Humans, especially children, base a lot of their emotions on the emotions of those around them.
Sebastian Moore
This is a well-researched psychological effect present in basically any animal where the parents spend a significant amount of time raising children, but its name eludes me at the moment. There's an informal name along the lines of "mom got scared so I'm scared to."
Camden Johnson
in my country there are some objectivists (ayn rand) and egoists (libertarians) antinatalists
Noah King
By beating them until you get the desired outcome.
Michael Thomas
Your country and its education system already does that for you
Enjoy having a dumb cuck nu-male child
David Jones
I'm a commie with a kid. Ama
Jordan Phillips
Are you a virgin?
Jordan Fisher
No
Christian Baker
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Elijah Rodriguez
of course that humans are the problem for earth just like mealybugs are the problem for plants
Brody Williams
seems vaguely familiar but I can't quite put my finger on it
Dylan Clark
Pure coincidence.
Zachary Foster
Obviously you raise them to be a transsexual on welfare. It's the tolerant thing to do.
Juan Powell
WTF is wrong with you? Beating your child like the fascists in this thread will only give your child serious mental health problems, mentally scar them, physically damage them.
Alexander Walker
Dude the Web M is moral faggotry. Better reasoning for this would be that there is no good reason to have a child because it is not beneficial to the ego at all. Not the reasoning that your child is a burden on all of humanity because that shit is spooky.
Jayden Thomas
WTF is wrong with you? Sounds like you want a fucked up, socially retarded fascist like yourself for a child. Not surprised given how you are a socially retarded fascist.
WTF the fucking fuck is wrong with you, you authoritarian, stockholm syndrome monster? So you would treat your child like a rapist would treat it's victim?
If you actually try to attempt that level of evil towards your children, you deserve to have your fingers cut off, flagged a thousand times, have hot rods poked into your flesh, have your feet and hands cut off. Then set your vile, malevolent corpse on fire.
Children should be given freedom to grow, to be cared and loved for and to be supported in their intellectual, social, emotional and physical development.
Fuck off with this "the parents own their child like it's a fucking slave, and they have every right to treat it like it's a subhuman creature to be starved, beaten, and made to feel it's parents despise it".
Why the fuck are you so evil to your children? Being given love by your parents doesn't make you "dysfunctional and a defective kid". I would torture you in a gulag for trillions of years for the level of evil you would have committed to your future child.
Oliver Gutierrez
nigger you gotta ease into that shit
Nathaniel Thompson
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Dylan Watson
Wow this thread is still going, lets keep it alive then. Regarding I suspect you are a troll but just in case, that was mostly how my parents(my mother really) treated me. As a poster above said, its slightly exaggerated Only because the " good parts" were omitted because I felt seldom being nice to me or not a narcissistic-psycho-bitch doesn't quite undo the rest of it. In actuality, I would not have kids.I have no desire for the burden and no idea of how to be a good parent to them. I could try or "do my best", but that's what my parents did.Would not recommend.
Jace Cook
Regarding I can't think straight this late.
Benjamin Jones
c u c k
Camden Gomez
Dont beat your kids or oppress them
Jason Morgan
Holy shit, did you teach my dad parenting? Except he replaced all physical abuse with emotional, so he could claim he never touched me, and thus never hurt me.