What do you think?

Well, it was just to show the basis of their ideology. I can dig further, tho.

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Is Pierre Tru-dank one of the bigger cocksuckers of this board?

Why doesn't he debate and show off his skills? So far all he does is acting cocky and passive-aggressive.

Cause he isnt a leftist even if he claims to be one, he will turn on you when he has the chance. Blame the stirner meme.

Pierre is an egoist? Ha ha oh god.

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Even it was a shouting match, how could Muke ever compete with someone who knows how to write a couple of paragraphs?

Proof.

stupid bullshit

Prove it!

Be critical of Wikipedia especially when it comes to politically (or god forbid ideologically) loaded issues. For information that is not mission critical, and non-political, Wikipedia is just fine.

fucking this tbh
Pierre should off himself

yuck

I'm pretty sure he would call both of them a spook because he thinks Max Stirner is somehow enlightening.

I mean stirner has some valuable analysis, that much is true
Egoists are the worst tho

Ultimate form of being possessed is being a Stirnerite. Stirner is shit tier tbh.

Oh shit is this a "bash egoists" thread?

Stirner has no insight that any number of other philosophers don't have yet if you even so much as mention Buddha they go ballistic with >spook >spook >spook implying Buddhism is anything but a philosophy conveyed through Hinduist vernacular and not a fucking religion like they insist.

I promise that these kiddies read "The Ego And His Own" and never touch theory again. They're the dregs of the left, just as bad as anarkiddies and fascists.

But to further clarify I also agree with this post.

Stirner is pretty eloquent in his book and goes into more depth on his ideas than any of these other guys. But he also misses the point entirely. Of course people can only and should only act in their self-interest, but his idea of self-interest is too narrow; self-interest includes creating a better world for your successors and helping your neighbor because what goes around comes around. He has other problems but I won't get into them.

Basically I can't name one difference between egoism and bottom-barrel moral nihilism as shown by the shitty philosophies they've thrown together like post-left and anarcho-nihilism but Stirner is alright.

jesus wept

I am a communist lmao, and yes neo-fascism is a spook and it's cancer.

Funny, that's not what you said at the time. Don't want to alienate your new best friend after all.

Apparently attempting to be civil and understand someone's ideology is equated to deep throating their cock.

Maybe the problem that Holla Forums is having is that we just sperg out at people and when they aren't as dumb as we think they are, we look like fools. Xexizy learned that the hard way.

For the record I think "Vox Romani" is pretty damn autistic, but it helps knowing where he comes from if I were to ever engage him.

this is rich coming from an anarcho-nihilist

This tbh. We can't take for granted that fascists will always be easy to argue with. That being said all the Holla Forums youtubers and namefags turning on Xerox only hurts us if we don't actually provide a coherent response to TRS.

I honestly don't care if we'd win or lose, but I'd love to see a couple more well-read commies go up against TRS in a debate. At the very least it would be more interesting to listen to.

All this stuff about DON"T DEBATE FASCISTS, THEY MUST BE CRUSHED XD works to their advantage, as does all the passive-agressive conflict between namefags in our community recently

how would that have anything to do with self interest assuming you don't believe in re-incarnation or an afterlife?

WOAH GUYS PIERRE IS A FASCIST MAN!!!!

Being civil with a fascist is a mistake "comrade". There is no engagement with fascists; there is no possible compromise. You want to understand it? Pick up a book and don't take his autistic version as authoritative or indeed legitimate.

I can understand people engaging with social democrats because they, at the least, are not fascists, and certainly can influence in wider society – but to make the claim that there is anything to be gained from engaging the so-called alt-right is complete bullshit. It's done nothing but shit up this board and it's all the fault of the fucking retards who think it's cool to talk to fascists.

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It isn't about "compromise", it is about understanding where they are coming from. So you can actually formulate an argument and not do what Xerox did.

When did Holla Forums turn into Leddit spergs?

but this attitude, I would argue, is how we get spectacular fuck-ups like the debate. When we refuse to respond to their arguments, they'll either claim the arguments must be right by default, or we'll get some dumbass who will go in unprepared expecting he's just gonna be fighting some uneducated NEETs and ends up buttblasted by some philosophy-students-gone-edgy because he hasn't familiarized himself with the fascist arguments.

Maybe it would be useful to go through these comments or the shownotes they posted.

We know what they want and we know what they'll do if they get it. There is no mystery.

Responding to them legitimizes them. You're entering into a conversation in which they can only gain. You're acting like you're responding to people who are arguing in good faith: they're not! The last crapshoot demonstrated that clearly. It's a complete waste of time and it brings polyps here to gloat over how they "won" over communism.

Tell me why there can't be a communist who uses fascists arguments to their gain.

My understanding is they basically just fucked with Xerox because he didn't know his shit.

The only reason why this board is even marginally more well informed than leddit socialists is because we have dissenting opinion here. We need to examine the arguments they're making cause we're going to hear them a lot more if we don't have a response.

WEW LADS!

Fascists appropriate the left, not the other way around. Better still, tell me what there is to gain by talking like a fascist? Are you really going to stoop to their level?

We have dissenting opinions amongst communists and anarchists and so on. Fascists aren't a part of that conversation. They have their own board. I can tolerate shitposting from other leftists, but it's intolerable from fascists because it's all spook-laden bullshit.
You could refute all their arguments and it wouldn't matter. They're sophists and demagogues. Fascists consider us inherently illegitimate. Nothing we can say will make a difference.

But I know I'm shouting against the tide here, and it's not like anything I can say will stop anyone from talking to them. I just want people to understand that if you do this, you're playing into their hands, you're playing by their rules. It's frustrating to see such a pointless enterprise spilling onto the board and polluting it further. Even if we "win" round 2, what will we have proved? Nothing. And we'll get it back in shitposting tenfold.

you are pretty spooked lad

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Shitposting is the antithesis of spooked.

Yet it's still shitposting.

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Sophists? Do you know what Socrates did to handle the sophists? He didn't ignore them.