Why is the working class today so stupid and not class conscious? Is there any way to remedy this?

Why is the working class today so stupid and not class conscious? Is there any way to remedy this?

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Yeah the proles are mostly stupid and uneducated, but that's why vanguardism exists so the most class conscious and intelligent people can guide them down the correct path.

There are hardly any working class people in the first world anymore, and those that are still around are still far better off than any worker from a third world country.

Pls hush unruhe, there are plenty of working class people's in usa. I will grant you the conditions are better unless you are a prisoner, though.

because the left doesn't address the white working class like they used to, too busy addressing idpol leaving a vacuum for the populist right to fill with race-baiting social conservatism.

remedy is for mainstream left to stop being so fuckin pathetic tbh

Because when people say working class they think about actors from daytime TV rather than actual working people aka everyone working for a wage.

Case in point: this liberal


What a gross vulgarization of the vanguard party concept.

The average non class-conscious prole isn't stupid. The conditions under which they grow up makes them either not see the problems of capitalism at all or obscures the only way to fix their problems. You can easily see this in the success of all the reformist and socdem parties. In general liberal ideology is much closer to most people since that's what they grow up around.

This is all part of the reason why democracy has a conservative character. The USA are a great example. And that's why we need a party that guides the action of the masses.

Read Bordiga.
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This. Re-assert class struggle as the core goal of the left.

Well, you see, the working class generally don't like being called stupid like the intellectual vanguards of the left today keep doing which alienates them. Back then, spokesman of the left to drive class consciousness inspired them instead of insulting them, something the modern left has no idea how to do.

We're still in a Red Scare thanks to worthless Marxists.

not while spooks "who want to change your way of life and want nothing more than to see you dead for no reason" still exists.

workers were much better educated back then, and, media + consumer society still did not atomize their communities of solidarity. today, only whiny little stormfags can talk like a 4yr old which is the level at which an average Fox News - NBC - CNN viewer or generic Buzzfeed reader communicates.
it is a catch 22: 80 yrs ago workers knew to educate themselves as nobody else will ,and the left knew how to send them educators, they were not shitting their pants when faced with the police, and lived in these communities.
today's mind control and surveillance methods handle this perfectly. of course they have no problem with altright messages, as the capitalists know how to make sotrmfags their bitches in the end.

The problem with this idpol is to blame rhetoric is that American workers have lacked class consciousness for ages.

It has more to do with the decline in unionization

Because in general, the white working class identify with 'porky' and support things that hurt them in the long run.

Ah whatever, people in our developed countries have it good today. If things were as bad as they were in that pic then there would be a response.

Until then college teenagers will complain on the internet the sky is falling. I can't be damned to care. All revolutionaries want is just something to do to add spice to their boring decadent lives. Too much romantic stories in the media and television.

The centre-left have repeatedly failed them by forcing austerity measures on them then chastising them for not voting centre-left.

Beat me to it. The white members of the American class are the only demographic it is to hip to degrade, insult and dismiss out of hand. They've been taken an economic pounding with decades of declining wages and they get sort of miffed when liberal intellectuals talk about muh privilege to them.

They're ready to follow anyone who promises them progress stirjournal.com/2016/04/01/i-know-why-poor-whites-chant-trump-trump-trump/

I could probably list 20 different reason, the number of factors you could blame for a lack of class consciousness is quite long.

You're the stupid one repeating stupid lies you hear from other people.

wouldn't addressing the white working class particularly be idpol essentially as well?

How does does it feel knowing your refusal to acknowledge race only keeps your rulers in power?

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The fall of the Soviet Union. Seriously not even a tankie but the fall of the Soviets crushed any hope of life outside capitalism. Leftist positions will never be taken seriously again. Abandon hope.

This is not even remotely true and you wonder why nobody takes us fucking seriously.

Really we don't have much hope in modern times either. Look at all the intellectual vanguards we had that promoted the likes of Venezuela and look what happened to it. We will always be losers because the vanguard is not smart as it thinks and worst of all they are almost entirely made up of bourgeois.

But it is. What, you think k-12 public education actually teaches anything other than basic math and literacy skills along with a a massive does of propaganda?

Venezuela failed because the whites that were in charge were removed from office. The natives had no idea how to create and manage an advanced society and devolved back to the state they were in before colonialism.

Because Porky read Marx.
Lifestylism and Identity Politics run too deep, I don't think there is any going back.
DiaMat breaks down on the individual level, we(humans) know too much about people to let them be people.

because that's the plan, comrade

you don't even understand your own memes.

Science and the accessibility of all knowledge in their school libraries that include books like das kapital and more?

The working class of the past were literally the most uneducated brutes imaginable which is why revolution was even possible at all. Then look what happened when those useful idiots did not fucking read a single word of marx of lenin expected things to be instantly better after revolution. Hell, most of them were literally ILLITERATE. They were forced to be all sent to the gulags for being countterevolutionary and crying to bring back the time before revolution.

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Faggots talking about "White working class" like "Black working class" has any class con.

In fact… The only potential I COULD see in US prols, is immigrands. But even they, I don't know how much they want to imporove their current conditions instead of getting money to go back.

So,
Simple.
100 years of anti-communist propaganda.
Now.. To remedy this.. First you have to start making "socialism" not a curse word. And for that even S█████ was good. Appart from that, you need unions that are about the workers.. you need to stop seeing the contract workers of neoliberalism, see youtubers or uber drivers, as enemies and start telling them how fucked they are if uber or YT fails. And how they get no compansation.
Also, the whole "privatization is good" and "corporations caring about their well being is A-OK" has to be despooked.

Although, the worst enemy is not "not knowing" rather knowing and not wanting to do anything about it, cause the proletariat of today HAS chains.

They are called "consumerism" and "spectacle".

No, you don't understand Jews. The whole point of creating revolutions is to destabilize nations and holocaust stupid goyim.

Again, most children did not go to school back then, especially if they were apart of the working class. The US economy and its families for example in the 19th and early 20th century lived in family farms in agrarian lifestyles never once setting foot in schools. They also never fucking picked up communism or the revolution. Now show me the test for Russian and Eastern European peasants like I was referencing earlier, you idiot.

and that's why their plan is to lower class counciousness thus making revolution less likely?

What fucking planet do you live on where every high school graduate is a scientist and reads das kapital in their school library

Yeah, once the communists have taken over. Communism is just a new form of feudalism.

I cannot emphasize this enough. Communism is of, by, and for the Jew. The ultimate goal of communism is to establish a world empire under Israel.

The only race out there is the race for profits.

Because the welfare state and capitalistic expansion means the 1st world working man actually has a stake in the system. Also public education is designed to educate as little as possible, they are surrounded by useless but shiny commodities, and the information age means he's barraged 24/7 with propaganda, vapid entertainment, useless trivia and all manner of other informational debris.

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like anything else, up to the people pushing for it to decide