So, apparently Xexizy is gonna debate TRS about 15 min from now

kek

don't worry, socialist internationalism doesn't cause mass migration and job competition like capitalist globalism.

no why
why let an ML debate on behalf of us

thanks for reposting my comment to the stream, faggot

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My God, they're pulling out the fake quotes and propaganda in the chat. I can already tell this isn't going to be an honest affair.

I'm the same person. I was talking to whoever from Holla Forums is monitoring this thread.

was your comment your intellectual property?

their entire ideology is literally a lie.

they aren't nazis, they're libertarians

Will Holla Forums ever learn?

Also this

who? the guys in the chat posting moonman and tyrone cucking?

also quit pretending to be a socdem, Holla Forums.

This isn't true, is it?

It's Muke, all he cares about is getting more views and subscribers, he'll do anything for that

Have ever seen one of muke's video's?

I'm being optimistic and hoping he's at least read an introduction to Marxian economics to some shit…

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wow this is never going to happen is it?
why didn't they at least get rebel on instead of the boy wonder?

The only thing he's read is State and Revolution, xexizy hasn't touched Marx at all.

Man I was thinking about posting some banter in the chat but youtube makes you use your real name and I'm afraid some of these fuckers will stalk me for it

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Why is he doing this? Does him and his uneducated ass want to make us look bad? Does he just like self-deprecating attention to grow his channel or something?

Because Rebel has a sense of dignity and some sense in general.

Mein gott, that chat

Would love to see Rebel debate instead of Xexizy

oh he's one of those "let's see what marx said about this" and then read lenin type of leftists huh

rebel was smart enough to quit the opinionstube shit long ago, he's writing a book and reading theory now instead.

meanwhile xexizy has painted his 78th warhammer model this year.

This. Rebel might be an annoying, attention-whoring faggot but at least he's articulate and has read some stuff.

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Holla Forums will just claim they were right anyway, so what's the point?

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The point is to support Xexizy's channel, he's the official YouTube presence of Holla Forums

Why is that faggot with the russian name reposting all my comments into the stream?

Can we please not?

We shouldn't just blindly follow the first retard. What happened to proper integrity? Xexizy's a fucking mongoloid and his most popular upload is a literal rewording of a GETchan flash OC (the one with all the successful socialist experiments). When will he finally kill himself? Or even better: when will we finally stop giving him our support, or even our attention?

lol

he's cute but let's get real here

Xexizy is not that well read
kek

It's sickening what the depraved minds can come up with if only to make their ruffianism, perfidy, and every other feature of jingoism, only appear lesser in comparison.

Rebel isn't a Marxist.

If Xexizy isn't our leader, then who is?

neither are most of the people on xexizy's side of debating

Anyone enjoying the usernames?

please do us a favour and kill yourself

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don't post gifs that short

who knew

There are really not enough Marxists here either.

It's from google, lol.

Why?

oy vey u triggered goy remember the 6 million shut it down silly cuck know nothing

The chat is at astronomical levels of autism.

who's xexizy debating with?

Starting, finally.

Reminder that muke is actually a Hibernian shill infiltrating Holla Forums and out to sabotage it.

You should just use a still image for a reaction pic like that, the animation really offers nothing for the low resolution.

this is the best we could do?
good lord

we're doomed.

I want this fucking thread title gilded and hung on my wall.

Holy god I hope he plays down on the leninism.

Just greentext me the details.

It's too painful.

xexizy no
stop talking
what
no
noooooo
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Mein Gott

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Did he get this from assassins creed?

Why Xexizy!?
Rebel is better than this self-promoting guy

all these guys sound like mouthbreathers holy fuck

classy

taking part in a youtube 'debate' of course they fucking are

kill me now

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chat never disappoints me

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The working class doesn't work

holy shit this is so easy to counter, it's like argument 1 that comes up against marxism.

Jesus christ this black guy does not know how to respond to an argument at all

God I hate this shit, makes us all look like idiots.

Ok, I can't handle anymore. This is a trainwreck. If its in anyone's power to shut it down please do it.

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holy fuck muke doesn't either

these stats this Holla Forumstards are spewing are blatantly false

jesus fuck why

=AAAAAAAHHHHHH HOLY FUCK QUIT STUTTERING==

THIS SHIT'S CHUMP CHANGE, WHY CAN'T YOU DEBUNK THIS?

Christ, xexizy go on the offense. You're letting them box you into their definition of working class.

But I don't wanna.

wew

wrong answer xexizy

Anfem why aren't you on this debate? You're a dumbass but you're still 200% better than these retards that xexizy picked

Yeah we could use her argumentativeness as long as she sticked to socialism

Holy christ has Muke ever read anything about Marxism in his life

Lenin would've had Xexizy executed tbh.

WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU LETTING HIM BLAST YOU AS CHAMPAGNE SOCIALISTS

WHY ARE YOU PLAYING ALONG WITH THIS

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CONTEST THE CLAIM
THAT WHICH IS ASSERTED WITHOUT EVIDENCE IS DISMISSED WITHOUT EVIDENCE

really makes you think…

Here we go. Corporatism/capitalism meme

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OF COURSE SOCIALISTS WANT TO ABOLISH THE WELFARE STATE

WHY ARE YOU DODGING THE QUESTION?

Have they said they are Fascists?

what the fuck is going on

Is Yui there? Can he save us?

I'm schizotypal and would probably have a panic attack. Also, I'm not close to Xex and his cohorts.

Nah. I'm tired of it. Anyone can be a socialist; it's meaningless. I, for one, am a communist (not 20th century or whatever), so that everyone can be left up to their own, individual stupidity. Democracy is our fetish, you know, what Freud said, fetish is the last thing you see before you know that the woman had no penis; this castration woman, no penis, would be sort of socialist antagonism.

KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME

holy shit that transhumanist

This is apparently the best Holla Forums has got, goddamn

wew lad

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fug, even third wordists aren't this retarded.

Jesus fuck this KulturKampf chose the biggest idiots they could find to make themselves look good

xexizy should be gulagged

This is the most cringey thing Holla Forums has done since the Detroit Commune.

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Who's the Hegelian exactly?

why are they arguing about fucking computer programming

K E K
E
K

does it matter
he's equally retarded

None of them are Hegelians, a Hegelian wouldn't debate Nazis in the first place.

Switching the topic from Marxism to HBD.

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I hope all the ML's and Leninists here learn their fucking lesson from this.

This is why you don't support or encourage someone just because they self-describe themselves as leaning towards your ideology. This is why you don't inflate the ego of some child who isn't that serious or doesn't read that much.

Rebel and Yui are both much more respectable. They may not be Marxists, but they'd be better at talking about Marxism than some larping self-promoting conceited "Marxist" brat.

An absolute trainwreck

REEEEEE
NUKE THE FUCKING STREAM

Kill yourself

If this debate was about Warhammer Xexizy would fucking school these guys.

Who signed off on this shit? You have to try to fuck up this bad.

I am.

BE AGGRESSIVE GOD DAMN IT

STOP LETTING THEM FRAME THE DEBATE

HOLY SHIT THIS STREAM IS CANCER SO FAR

Just curious, because he's missing a lot of gaps in their logic that would show the power of the dialectic. Instead, I've just seen common sense dropped in here and there.

A.W. you're such a bully…Would Hegel bully as hard as you do?

this

don't post sexualized caricatures of women

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wrong picture

don't be a massive faggot

when will ppl ever learn?

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huh, really makes you think…

wew

Getting mad is a surefire way to lose a debate.

People need to stop fucking talking over one another. It's infuriating.

WHY ARE YOU ALLOWING THEM TO MAKE ALL THE ARGUMENTS

JUst realised that there's been zero theory discussed this entire time

wew lad

It's alright they did that at the beginning.

this would never happen with a market socialist

They would be too busy casting spells and brewing love potions

^^^^^^^^^

The fuck?

The argument of these guys is Marxist theory can't be applyed to the modern age because labour is so specialized. But that was the argument the marx literally made, he predicted that their would be mass unemployment as the economy became even more automized and specialized. The unrest caused by having a vast amount of the population being unemployed (and thus closed off to pay) would result in revolution.

Seriously, we should do the debate next time

if they knew any theory, they certainly couldn't communicate it with all the mumbling and talking over each other that's going on

delet

there are some theories that the YPG are crypto-tankies

It sure would be nice if any of the people defending Marxism on this stream have actually read Marx to know this.

how about no

Who's winning?

strawpoll.me/11153496

kek the chat is all going 🍀🍀🍀rosa luxembourg🍀🍀🍀

kek

there are only losers here

Capitalism wins again because leftists don't read their theory.

Wtf do you expect? Xexizy doesn't know Marx. He doesn't know shit. We would have been better off with Marx-poster in this debate or that Stalinist tripfagger.

I told you guys.

It actually hurts me to say that the tankie tripfag would have destroyed these dumbshits

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Holla Forums: EUGENICS

Fuck it these guys are pretty dumb too. But Xexizy and friends aren't really having trouble holding their own against these dingle-berries. It's like super stupid vs. subtlety stupid.

If he hasn't read Lenin's entire bibliography why would he call himself a Leninist?

Because he wants to be a cool kid and Stalinism is too edgy for him

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Because it is cool ecks dee dee dee

These people need to learn some fucking patience.

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Fascism is the worst. Literally SocDem with guns

Because he's literally a kid.

yep, it's true though. Stalinist poster actually reads and although I disagree with him, he's not stupid and is serious.

He's a stupid Leninist.

We should have had the anarchists on instead tbh

lmao you cant make this shit up

who let B████fag in anyway? Where`s Bad Mouse?

this
at least they're combative

DELETE THIS

Why the fuck would they invite somebody who doesn't even identify as a Marxist in a debate about Marxism?

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This is a waste of time for everyone involved.

holy fuck
these guys are unbelievable

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I can never tell if Holla Forumsacks are neopagans or christians

fuck me i want to die

Can we just hang up on them and claim victory?

Start a debate team to filter out these morons

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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KILL ME NOWWWWW

The Holla Forums's are doing nothing but setting up every argument with a tiny inject and playing the whole 'gradually increase the powerlevel and have them agree while only talking about your contrived situations'.

One of them kind of blew it, already, but no one caught him on it. When he said "Revolution to achieve marxism". He obviously views 'marxism' in the framework of "some mystical jewish world order", and doesn't have any grasp of economic structure bar baseline mainstream conservative talking points.

So far:

Welfarequeens
Lazypoor
Mystical Marxism
Eugenics and sterilization to solve those tossed aside by the elite (poor are sick? Burn the ghettos)

And now… jesus, neo-monarchism.

That transhumanist is just a capitalist, too. Which makes this even weirder.

Do these people realize that India's unwillingness to adopt shitters in some places is because of the same culturally conservative values they harp about constantly?

kill me

oh no

BERNIEFAGS WHYYY!!!!!!!??!?!?!??!?!??!?!??!

someone get this kid outa here, he's battling fascist memes with marxist memes

we can't claim victory when our debaters are this retarded

fucking whatever. the chuckleheads defending us are vacillating between "statelessness" vs. "communist states" and getting defensive about welfare

So much this.

They are overpowering Xexizy and friends with their shear stupidity.

Holla Forumsacks have always been a mix, I used to shitpost of 4/pol/ as one side to get them riled up and then just proceed to watch the result. Shit was pretty entertaining tbh.

He isn't a leftist? What the hell is he doing there?

fuckin' 'ell

this stream might as well have been called "xexizy and his mates try to find out what their beliefs are through debate"

Exactly!
Welfare is a tool used by the capitalist class to destroy class consciousness and subject revolutionary potential.

Gee I don't know, maybe a little thing called the CUBAN MISSILE CRISIS????

Jesus fuck Xexizy is a moron

*subject = subvert

lmao

Is Holla Forums officially abandoning xexixixizy?

What are they arguing about in the first place?

Now I don't even want to listen. I hate it when blithering retards speak for others. At least they do it for themselves on the board.

Holla Forums know literally less than nothing, xexizy and his pals need to realize that being smarter than them isn't something noteworthy.

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Now it is time for Rebel to rightfully be the voice of Holla Forums

Marxism, supposedly.

Yes

He could have argued that when the USSR fell though.

As in applying it?

No, as in the concept in its broadest sense

JEWISH ELITES IN CUBA

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That seems kind of pointless.

How do you think Yui is doing guys?

Also, I'll say it again:

I hope all the ML's and Leninists here learn their fucking lesson from this.
This is why you don't support or encourage someone just because they self-describe themselves as leaning towards your ideology. This is why you don't inflate the ego of some child who isn't that serious or doesn't read that much.
Rebel and Yui are both much more respectable. They may not be Marxists, but they'd be better at talking about Marxism than some larping self-promoting conceited "Marxist" brat.

I don't think that's true. I remember him speaking very harshly against it. He just tolerated it and went along.

Just stop, this is embarassing.

does Yui have an opinionstube channel?

Yui is the most articulate on there. I just wish he spoke more and shut the transhumanist up.

God this is so stupid, I'm tempted to start my own youtube channel just to get in a word in about how fucking idiotic these Holla Forumsacks are since no one else seems to be able to do it.

yui isn't there, everyone who should have been in this debate like anfem, rebel or tankie isn't in it.

DEBATE THESE BULLSHIT CLAIMS THEY'RE MAKING

MAKE THEM PROVE THE EXISTENCE OF THESE JEWISH CONSPIRACIES

Why are marxists talking about rojava

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Kill me this is a shit show

Today Xexizy and n1x learned a very important lesson: just because something is very obviously and objectively wrong doesn't mean it is easy to refute in a debate, because it is such a jumble of nonsense that you haven't tried to decipher it.

End this please. The cringe is unreal

If this isn't the nail in the coffin for Xerox's credibility on this board, I don't know what is. It's been over 6 months of us encouraging him, telling him what to read, even shilling for him and giving him attention, and he's done nothing to deserve it. Drop this fucking undisciplined faggot NOW.

n1x is one of the debaters?

god i hope not

He does have an account but he doesn't upload videos.

Xexizy is just illiterate.
You guys fucking went hostile against Rebel because of all his special shit. Yeah, he's special but he's much smarter than Xexizy. He's better overall.

It's Rebel, Lenin-hat (not Xexizy) Yui, AW, n1x, stalinist-poster and Marx-poster who are the identifiable best.

Disagree with them all you want. They're who should have gone to debate

debators are xexizy, fersurion, egeiros and the black guy is jagos

the only thing that was ever behind xexizy was that "i want to fuck his boypussy" meme

why are they talking nukes

No he isn't. N1x isn't stupid.

They're thinking of ending the stream

BECAUSE THIS DISCUSSION DERAILED HALF AN HOUR AGO

NUKES

Fucking hell, this nuke shit is easy as balls to refute.

Have they ever heard of MAD?

IT'S A SEGUE INTO DISCUSSING POSADISM

this motherfucker

Nice meme

He is stupid, he just isn't THAT stupid.

He's stupid, just not as completely stupid as xexizy.

His Maoist transition is complete.

N1x really isn't stupid. He's just not. He comes to deliberately to fuck shit up, but he used to be more serious. Disagree with him, whatever, but he's actually read.

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cancer
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usually cancer
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All christianity on Holla Forums is insincere.

has he taken the idpol pill?

Is it time for muke's channel to be collectivised? By collectivise I mean we kill him

what did he mean by this?

I disagree with most of them, but the difference here is that they're actually literate!!

Bit unfair.

Having no theory is better than being read in post left trash.

this nigga better at least mention sankara

AW is fine, he knows his shit even if he's an asshole

How long until they bring up anime

We're losing so hard lol. It's times like these I consider jumping ship.

Christ, just point out that B████ is doing better than trump with working class whites. He's not socialist but that'll shut him up.

he was worse when he's serious

Bartleby, the scrivener??

Third-worldism is a disease

I think he could have defended Marxism better than xexizy if he actually wanted to.

The best posters on this board are without a doubt Marxhead, Freudposter (RIP; he's not around as much anymore) and OG Lenin hat. I miss the old Sabot cat poster as well, who also seems to be gone.

\Also lets stop dick sucking and let people prove that they could debate.

topkek

how did Holla Forums ever let this mongoloid become their spokesperson?

It made no sense to get behind xex to begin with. People only did because he seemed "normal" and ideological identity.

The person actually has to know something!

M U H C U L T U R E
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this could have gone worse tbh

lmao

We didn't. He's just the only person autistic enough to unironically start an opinionstube channel and we were too preoccupied with reading or shitposting ourselves to notice his rise to some basic prominence and now we deal with him and our label on him as the consequence.

Noone else volunteered.

jesus christ stop hanging around yui

That is not wrong.

Well, it's not like we can stop him

But he was a proto-socdem at the very least, he supported the French Revolution all his life.

didn't Hegel think Absolutism was progressive?

Hegel was no reactionary and had a special place in his heart for the French revolution. That hardly makes him a socialist, but he was definitely far from conservative.

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oh, ok sorry.

Hegel was a Bonapartist

he was a fucking christfag conservative

leftypol BTFO

Where's Rebel when you need him!!!!

he literally was a conservative

stahp

What does this even mean? Literally anything can be culture by definition. It sounds like some empty buzzword where all of the meaning is in a dog whistle

Someone start a chat room for debating to prevent shit like this.

they've been steadily increasing their powerlevel

Can somebody just shoot me already.

🍀🍀🍀CULTURAL MARXISM🍀🍀🍀

jacobinmag.com/2016/07/hegel-bastille-day-burke-french-revolution/

This just makes it sound like we can't debate them without getting rekt.

uuuuuggggggghhhhh

WHY THE FUCK ARE THE POLTARDS 10 TIMES MORE WELL READ THAN THESE RETARDS

And our side is too stupid to refute bullshit claims like this.

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JUST

because Holla Forums doesn't want to debate
they want to lure you into their own narrative where they barrage you with stupid inane nonsense like the culshural marxism that just happened

Because readin 10 wikipedia articles is not much harder than reading 1 wikipedia article.

Is it too bad? I can't fucking listen to it.

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this

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kill me.

why

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XEXIZY WHY ARE YOU SO DENSE HOLY CHRIST AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

REFUTE THEIR ARGUMENTS

RESPOND, YOU INCOMPETENT RETARDS

How was that moving the goalpost?

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calm down

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this debate alone will set back all the activism this board has done for months. Holla Forums is flooding all over this shit. I won't be surprised if they make memes about it.

the 1% is fucking over 50 billion people nigga

lol

it's bad but not that bad, probably more "that's exactly what I expected from these retards" than anything else.

pick one

None of these chucklefucks can into historical materialism, christ.

btw bill gates is a fucking JEW

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We will make memes too. Don't worry.

They're literally using science against us. Marxism is a materialist science but no one defending Marxism in this group seem to realize this.

about what? how shit xexizy is?

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inconclusive studies, and quotes taken out of context aren't science
never said it wasn't

I've just joined, can you tell me which pics are left-wing and which are right-wing?

are they talking about social democracy now?

They're all right wing

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They're making fun of us.

PLEASE

PLEASE END IT

PLEASE MAKE IT STOP

You can make propaganda about how shit xexizy is?

Doesn't matter, no one on this stream knows what they're talking about.

I assume Lenin pic is our guy, is Hegel pic right-wing too?

what the fuck is he talking about

AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

LEFTYPOL FUCKING CUCKED

lol bill gates

did I just hear that?

The guy is making the "welfare works where it's ethnically homogeneous" argument and these niggas are struggling to debunk it.

gimmie a break

That's because Xexizy doesnt KNOW Marxism! He's just some kid whose hobby is posting here and making videos. He's weal

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Xexizy's going from a Maoist to a Socdem in the span of an hour.

Xerxizy is turning it into a economic critique of capitalism! Maybe there is hope!

JEWS

WHY THE FUCK ARE THEY DEFENDING SOCIAL DEMOCRACY

He's rustled and talking faster than he can think.

Daily reminder that Tankies are the only true light in the darkness

fuck off this stream is proof positive of why tankies will forever and always lose every debate

do you love the jews

Yeah it's not like the first welfare state was created in a recently unified Germany whose western states had, prior to unification, fucking thought about joining a military alliance with France out of a common bond of Catholicism against Prussia. It's also not like many of these states had also been brought under Prussian leadership through diplomatic and military means that they resented. And let's not even talk about polish, jewish and other minorities.

It was literally THE most internally divided politicaly entity in the WORLD and it created the first modern welfare state (which continue to be the best for decades) and none of those goofballs can bring that up.

Not really.
Stalinist-poster, og Lenin-hat, Marxhead would have done much better. Xexizy is just stupid.

does anyone in the stream actually know what means of production are?

No one is a tankie on this debate, most of them aren't even Marxists.

are they actually talking about African iq now

tankies aren't marxists either

they are? tankie = marxist-leninist

Why isn't this debate being controlled? Why are they letting these rightists control it and move it to where they want?

This is something that would easily happen to 90% of Holla Forums if they were put under pressure by right-wingers.

It's easy to parrot all shades of radical thought when you're preaching to the converted and these ideas are never challenged. Once people start pointing out the holes of your thought process, many of us start receeding towards a familiar territory of "you know, like Sweden!".

This is why you can't be a self-isolationist. You become a caricature with weak ass beliefs.

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"""""""marxist"""""""-leninist

maybe you're just all fucking dumb and full of shit, ever think of that?

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Ah, exactly what we need right now.

que

All the time.

Kulak detected

Do you know where you are? This place isn't an echochamber. It's sectarian as fuck with multiple ideologies being present. No one here agrees with anything and not even what socialism is!! We fight all the time.

well meme'd

i think it goes back to the idea of knowing these ideas are wrong, but not knowing how to actually debate them.

MUH IQ TESTS

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Well boys, it looks like the Nazi autism levels are peaking.

this is why I hire people with downs syndrome to run my nuclear reactors

these niggas

fuck off Holla Forums. these arguments they're using get BTFO'd daily on this board. you cannot comprehend how idiotic these people are being.

remember when they were talking about marxism?

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This other British guy is so meek, they're walking all over him.

your board has never btfo of anything

he just conceeded that their stupid IQ rhetoric is scientific somehow lol

HOW THE FUCK IS RACE IQ RELATED TO SOCIALISM??!!

KILL ME

KILL ME

KILL ME

KILL ME

make an argument faggot and prepare your anus

if you actually had two brain cells you might know how

lets do a live stream

WHY WOULD YOU GIVE THEM THAT TALKING POINT????

Wow destroyed by retardation.

Start arguing anytime.

M8 I know how fucking idiotic those arguments are, what I hate is that most of you are so dumb that you can't even debunk them convincingly.

And btw, no, they don't get BTFO'd daily here. Holla Forums is still dropping spaghetti all over the ground whenever a Holla Forumstards trolls us with "what about Venezuela?" or "why did Stalin kill so many people?" arguments. We suck at replying basic libertarian points. Gorilla-posting often beats us.

fight me irl

He's used "bourgeois" wrong like 5000 times now.

capitalism with price controls.

bonapartist dictator.

I keep telling you fuckers, being a tankie is an indefensible position.

holy shit leftypol get your shit together, I can argue your points better than you can and I'm a fucking nazi

This meme needs to die.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_Marxism

lol

you're exactly the type of person I'm talking about, but you're too stupid to fucking realise it.

mirror the american revolution. have a pre-existing equivalent of the continental congress and draft a constitution the moment the revolution ends

Well there are are libertarian Marxists and anarchists very close to Marxism.

kill yourself

>>>/marx/

only 🍀🍀🍀anarchists🍀🍀🍀 are close to marx, real anarchists hated that fuck shit

feel free to make an argument any time

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>>>/marx/

nod an argubent :DDDD

Xexizy should like all "good" socdems should drink bleach.

why didn't they just say it's socioeconomic biases?

What?

Because they're retarded.

"I'm so much better than everyone else, I don't even have to prove it!"

bakunin btfo marx proudhon was badass eat a dick lefty

they were mentioning that documentary called "Empire of Dust" right? What was the point of bringing that up? The belgians left the region and didn't teach the Africans to maintain the infrastructure. Somehow that means blacks != civilization ?

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and then the truth comes out
>>>Holla Forums

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those are some big fucking guns

jesus christ Xexizy shut the fuck up

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He's just digging his grave deeper and deeper.

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mirin those wii games and that halo collection

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I'll list off so reasons at he is wrong

Xexizy is literally agreeing with genocide and a proto-fascist new world order. Fuck this guy.

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enjoy your carefully constructed defensive ideology, classcuck

maybe because its right. why don't you do a livestream, faggot? let's see how well you argue for total bullshit

I know it's Stalin and many here don't like him, but admitting that he was a smart dude and everything please learn here how to deal with having questions about your system thrown at you.

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1934/07/23.htm

jesus, finally growing some balls

weeeeeeeew

Because I don't want to waste fascists time, while they can be plotting their new world order in their mom's basement.

what the fuck kind of newfags do you have representing you guys, jesus christ I feel embarrassed for you

cucked as fuck

why the fuck are you posting here? do you think we give a shit about destroying the white race?
>>>Holla Forums

haha okay faggot

They're not even new. Just regular boarders. Xexizy at least is not a newfag by any means, and is probably among the 10% most well-read here.

It's a struggle.

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WHY DON'T YOU WANT TO HOLOCAUST THE JEWS?

this is why many leftists & anarchists are turning to fascism

lol

we're winning

This shit is a joke.

don't worry, puberty will pass in a couple years

This has turned into a "hey fascism isn't that bad guys" hangout, from a debate.

Time to bail.

you don't even produce testosterone

He's not wrong tbh, Stalin should've helped the Axis take down Britain.

This is why we needed yui :/

Do we have any evidence that he'd do better?

aaaaaaaaahahahha

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jesus christ i want to kill myself now

Sorry guys, I get that I couldnt really handle this that well. I was expecting to have yui, if not AW, who I know are much much better at debating than me and the others I bought.

Had I known the people I was gonna go into this with before accepting the debate, instead of 5 mins before entering to debate, I would of declined.

plz do it now

A anarcho-transhumanist, a illiterate Leninist, and a black dude walk into a debate with fascists.

[/spoiler] Jesus Christ that was autistic. [spoiler]

kek

you mean people smarter than you? lol you were btfo and brought shame upon everyone, kill yourself now

Socialist organisaiton skills ladies and gentlemen.

This is why you need to read your shit dude, you were conceding and fumbling at every point. Read Marx, read Lenin, read Hegel, read anyone damn it.

Nah nigga you all sucked collectively. Don't say it's their fault.

Well yea they are smarter than me…that's why I wanted them with me in the debate.

You cucks are always going to be a laughing stock.

Do us all a favor and kys.

TRS here, who was that nog you guys had defending you or did he just come on his own.

You're a young lad, it's fine. I wouldn't've fared much better at 18.

it doesn't matter how much bullshit you read, you guys are wrong, wrong, wrong

Why does it matter if he's black?

What matters if whether or not he wasn't a fool, which I assume he was.

you were all really, really terrible. i would stop making videos if i were you, at least until you actually start to take leftism seriously and not as a hobby like warhammer models

you should all just kill yourselves

You need to read your shit, man. You should of had both on you, as the other two guys were giving them talking points. Christ, one was arguing B████ talking points.

ok fam. Go whine about the jews on your own board now.
AnCaps are at least consistent.

hahaha why don't you actually stand up in a public sphere and not seem like total retards?

Well, it was only one debate. Take this as a lesson upon yourself to improve. Get gud comrade.

Delusion

For the love of fuck start an IRC for practice and let people join in.

At least they ended up embarrassing themselves more than they embarrass once they started talking about the jews.

But shit, you needed to start taking control of that and refuting more of the bullshit non-arguments they wee making.

This

yes please and make sure Holla Forums can raid you and hurt your fee-fees

Watch a Alex Jones reporter get his fat ass pounded by a commie.

Well yea I know, but I cant really do that - I'm just not good at debates as I dont have thoes skills. Like I already said the only reason I agreed to do it was because I thought I would have people who DID have thoes skills.

They're le Nationale Libertarianne faction of the alt-right not fascist.

you have a link?

M8 ditch the nig next time, he was fucking up your cause. I was interested in a serious debate tbh.

Hi Holla Forums. Now you know why we hate the blacks.

Nice to know you're a Maoist at heart.

socialism.txt

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youtube.com/watch?v=dgMQh4YbTEA

I laugh every time.

I don't hate you dude, but the entire debate was them sliding and hiding spaghetti (after you left the stream, they sperged out a bit).

It was always about making it to the point of "it's the jews", and equating nazi and socialism. Everytime they skipped over a thing and made a little non-sequitor or injected a term or a specific word was to that end.

That, is pretty much what happened.

This is a classic problem with the Left: the people who want to go to forefront and be the public speakers are not the guys who should be doing it.

you're just mad that hitler did nothing wrong

This is why you don't support blacks.

Stop acting like you know shit and relying on others, if you're for real about being a Leninist, take his advice: Read, read, read!

the left shouldn't have ever happened, your entire history is bloodshed of the working class, kill yourselves now to redeem your honor

Look at

Only transhumanist had a point in the whole debate.
GAS EVERYONE, FULL AUTOMATATION NOW

Goddamit I was expecting to see Yui dominate the debate. Where was he?

there is only one solution to the Human Problem

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You'd just get a lot of morons giving bad advice.

sounds like leftist

leftism

Anything is better than nothing

As in, to practice critical thinking skills through arguing.

lol you have no arguments except "rich people are bad except when they're jews"

You need to be more offensive in debates too. You were letting them box you into the definitions and yes/no questions that they wanted you in.

youtube.com/watch?v=JsZL1qYl9fw
Based flower comrade.

name one fucking reason you have to hate a white rich person less than a jewish rich person

that's because you guys are morons with no real world experience

It really isn't. It's one of the most white collar jobs on the planet.

cos they might be related to me

qed

🍀🍀🍀white🍀🍀🍀 collar

Nice meme my friend we don't discriminate, capitalist niggers, jews and whites will all be hanged equally.

does this include drug dealers?

so, nepotism

If.you don't already know, why should you care?

means of drug production will be socially owned

says the guy neck deep in conspiracy theories

they're already socially owned retard

ethnic solidarity

I might know in the future

retard
spooky retard
read a book faggot

reading books is for the booze-wah-jeez

What?

HAHAHAHAHA
We should make this a weekly thing so I can listen to Holla Forums get blown the fuck out.

You fucking lost, ur stance on life is garbage. Suck a fucking dick, faggots.

yeah because drugs are entirely made by robots and AI

jesus christ who the fuck grows weed? who sells it? who makes research chemicals? who sells them? do you know a fucking thing about anything?

how is it possible to be this stupid?

so, nepotism

That's about right, yes.

Lol, why should you care then either? You're not going to have any extra emotional attachment if you didn't know them before. Maybe you should stop trying to justify your spooks and just look at people as individuals, how about that?

how dumb are you?

its fighting for MY PEOPLE

its made up of a society of people

wtf else is it, retard?

That seems like it would take far more energy than it would be worth considering that marginal edge cases of productivity among minorities are very small and they should all pretty much be gassed.

Your people don't exist, and those you perceive as your people don't care about you.

sorry, but the working class DOES exist and they'll somehow want part of your revolution

don't exist

so, nepotism

come back to this website when you reach 18.

some spicy memes you guys have, do you want to livestream??

kill yourself

sorry but i don't speak autism

I wouldn't mind livestreaming. And I think I have a couple friends who might be interested as well.

you don't even speak english

are they transhumanists?

please be intelligent.

No

are they over 18?

That doesn't support your statement.

I'm referring to Schintz and Pierre Trudanke. I'm fairly certain they're both over 18.

nothing supports your world view

they sound pretty jewish

kek

You know these girls would rather have a nice big black cock instead of your flimsy white penis, right?

so you agree we should gas the rent-seeking kikes?

you realize you've never talked to a girl?

Those are their youtube names you spooked autist

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Shnitz is 18

you do realize youtube owns the means of production right

Holla Forums can't even tell their own gender

barely legal, still able to be raped

I don't follow.

No…youtube's stockholders own the means of production. What's your point?

And all the other rent-seekers, yes.

shit dude did you learn that knowledge using the wages of workers? you're a fucking fascist

we're in agreement then

what the fuck are you talking about?

You know acting retarded on purpose still makes you look retarded right?

Cool. Can we destroy capitalism together now and replace it with something democratic?

fuck no, democracy and capitalism go hand in hand, are you dumb or something?

I don't care what hamsters think of my taste in hentai

Kek, in capitalism you can get democracy for everything except in the place where you spend 5 out of 7 days of the week.

Are you stupid?

you're not working 7 days a week? you're literally a fascist, there are poor starving niggers that need you to code in javascript

Hey do it man.

no, because I subscribe superior ideals, like gassing kikes

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so, are you going to try to defend that claim?

Bourgeois left wing individualists run away from strong proletarian right wing collectivists every time. ;^)

vote with your dollar obv fam

capitalism is the democracy of labor

So that challenge to livestream was nothing but empty rhetoric, without which all you can do is spurge out? Good to know.

Capital thinks too.

who the fuck wants a repeat of what just happened? you think im going to waste my time trying to be respectful to 18 year old transhumanists and niggers? lol

and what are you supposed to do if you don't have money
pic related

Capitalism is the democracy of "the king's not going to steal your shit".

have you never been broke? What happens when you don't have money? You steal.

the jews will tho

I have already informed you that no transhumanists would be partaking and none of us are black. I don't see how that is relevant, however.

sorry could you send that in triplicate?

how?

Kek, get out of here if you have nothing else to offer.

capitalism may not be perfect, but it's still the best system there is

thank you for making my weekend, leftcucks

using their jewish blood magic

pay me bitch

you deserve to die

kill yourself

You're trolling me. Fucking epic.

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So capitalists all need to be killed in one large swathe, but with jews, whoa now, let's just take this on a case-by-case basis! #notalljews!

who gives a fuck if the state or any other person dies or does not die?

you're all fucking ash for the earth

hitler was leftist

yes, of course, the state is always right!

I can't even begin to address the sheer amount of delusion. It's like you're in a different galaxy.

It's controlled opposition. They btfo some low hanging fruit. Then they refuse to take any other actual attempts of intellectual debate to maintain their "we won" mentality. They wouldn't dare let this change. This should be alarmingly obvious Editor.

also, roughly 50% of 'muh 1%' is jewish. So when you guys LARP about eating the rich, you're literally advocating for anudda shoah

This is kind of what happens when you hero-worship an 18 year old who doesn't read as the mascot of your ideology.

No offence to Xexizy, but this isn't the sort of thing you should do without *detailed* and *normie-friendly* preparation for the debate in the first place.

Sweet. Then maybe you can kill yourself and add to the ash instead of shitting up our board.

my sides are certainly in another galaxy after this thread

you first, commie

also, reminder that Xexizy thinks it's okay for the state to steal a guy's workshop if he doesn't hire anyone to work on it because "they could horde wealth".

At that point, why the fuck does it matter?

Are you some sort of moralist?

Being a capitalist is unethical by definition. Being a jew is not. Do you want to start #notallrapists and #notallslaveowners as well?

literally hitler

jews are by definition evil

First of all, uh…what? Check what I posted again
Secondly, check flag and dubz

Communists: people who believe the NAP applies to personal property only :^)

Cool, maybe you'll have a little to celebrate for when we take over.

kike on a stick

NAP is bullshit, go away and read Rousseau

fedora on head

I value human life, including my own, unlike you, faggot.

Capitalists: people dumb enough to believe in the NAP

Absolutely. Not being normie-friendly was a huge mistake. For example he kept dropping the term bourgeois and bourgeoisie (often wrongly) when there was no need for it, and he kept saying it again and again and sounded like an idiot.

My concern is about us loosing what youtube propaganda we have. Clearly Xerox is incapable, we need to have an answer to idiots like the ones they were debating and transhumanist social democracy with leninist memes can't be it.

A baby jew is born. It dies a few months later from a lung defect. Was it pure evil the whole time it was alive?

I'm pretty deep into Holla Forums, what would you recommend reading/watching to convert me into a lefty? Those videos itt of the Alex Jones attacker made me realise how little I knew, and I wondered if looking deeper could change my opinion, similar to what happened that made me "right wing".

human life exists to serve the construction of a universe ending device meant to kill all jews

definitely

This is yet another fucking excuse to avoid debating and confronting conservatives.

youtube.com/watch?v=ysZC0JOYYWw
youtube.com/watch?v=6P97r9Ci5Kg

Then why do you care about taking away muh workshops? Can't you see I'm making fun of you with that remark, or was the :^) not enough?

I believe this is what they call terminally spooked.

metal

Nah, you're thinking of lolbergs

Funny how whenever Commies get BTFOd No True Scotsman immediately gets invoked.

Before I watch, will these contradict things I firmly believe about race and culture? It's more the anti-capitalism stuff I'm interested in.

So you're an absolutist then? Either complete egoism (not even NAP, because that's objectively bunk by egoistic standards as well) or absolute control? No middle ground?

this guy gets it

If you REALLY want to learn a lot
youtube.com/playlist?list=PL80E7B20E05FD7651
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFA6F20D0D7B043C4
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF0DCD6F421DD70C7
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEFC5F0FD8ABC4E78

fuggen lefty pleebs

Absolutism is the best form of egoism, friend.

The Left is unfortunately so used to losing debates that we're now approaching some weird, neo-Fabian strategy of never engaging our enemies because "it's not worth it". Without engaging them, however, there's absolutely no way we'll ever evolve past our current stage.

The Right won't fall on its own, and retreating from all "public" forums because we fear engagement is not the way to make them fall.

If that is you, Rebel, you can join me and Pierre in challenging some Nazis to a debate that will involve actual theory.

Middlegrounds are always the product of confused thinking. Maximum individualism is weakness and death. Maximum collectivism is strength and immorality.

He doesn't talk about it that much. He might touch on the origins of modern antisemitism in the development of capitalism though.

You are a fucking idiot. The left is the establishment now.

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I don't see an establishment of private property and worker ownership going on atm, so I'm gonna have to politely disagree.

Anything left of "1488 GAS THE KIKES Nazi masturbation fantasy NOW" is establishment, yes.

I wish i lived in your world right now fam

Are you implying leftists are workers?

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kek

I wish I could be religious, to not have to worry about the troubles of this world.

No, anything which promotes fag marriage and tranny rights is leftist fam

I'm implying that is the central tenant of leftist demands.

Are you implying they aren't?

Yeah. Your "workers" are in actuality the welfare class.

contrary to what SJWs would have you believe, leftism is purely an economic issue

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We live in the same world. Globalist Jews usurped both parties and displaced the only people who care about liberalism and "leftism". Marxism is a scam by the Jews to control one type of person, while obscene capitalist absolutism captures the other group.

Ending capitalism would reduce working hours, spreading the labor and ending unemployment until automation has reached the point where work is unnecessary

nice meme

Fascism is a scam by the capitalists to rally the populace to defend them from the red menace

No ending capitalism would upend the way we distribute things necessary for life to exist in a world that depends on advanced processes to live. The price model for predicting where to distribute goods and services is the best we have. Without it we would be much worse. that being said it should not be unrestrained. You Marxists morons all think this is black and white.

No. Fascism is representation of a nation. A nation is a folk, a people. Nationalists are only capitalists in the sense it serves the people. When it betrays them, it must be restrained. Hitler and other fascists believed and promoted a mixed economy.

Oh the irony. Sage cuz offtopic.

most workers are fucking retards with no idea of anything, human cattle enslaved to the jew

Wow just wow is not an argument. You say if workers do not own the means of production we are capitalist pigs. I am saying that is fundamentally false and YOU are the absolutist, not us at TRS

That's assuming a whole lot about the way distribution and production (we would still require humans to service the land, machines, and infrastructure (including logistics) of society, which would require labor), that the history of Communism (and what we could learn of human nature) does not support.

Even assuming that, in the interim between the abolition of capitalism in a country and the global abolition of capitalism, that country would be caught with numerous problems dealing the capital flight, any reprisals from existing capitalist states, and the logistical problems of socializing and modernizing infrastructure to such a state.

Capitalism cannot serve the mass of people, just wishing that it does harder doesn't change anything. Fascists believe the exorcism of a foreign invader from their strict natural hierarchy of society will result in social harmony. This is a fiction, as the hierarchy is not natural at all and you have tricked yourself into believing that both the big other exists, as does your own non-concrete identity.

Yes

Socialism does not require abolishing markets.

I'm sure you've put fucking hours of thought into this m8

who gives a shit

so you're contradicting yourself

Give me one example

Which is why global revolution is necessary, which is why nationalism is a hindrance to communism

The Soviet Union formed an expansive, tremendously corrupt, and tremendously incompetent (especially in its early stages, where they would regularly hunt for saboteurs, who they falsely believed were at fault for their plans not working) bureaucracy.

I agree. From the communist perspective, communism and capitalism cannot coexist. Which creates the problem for communists that they would either have to achieve a final victory through the overthrow of some of the most powerful and resilient governments on the planet (and coerce the remainders), or achieve a simultaneous global revolution. Both of which would be extremely difficult and bloody affairs.

I'm a market socialist. Ask a tankie why he thinks the soviet union is great. They did do some impressive things though.

If a socialist state tried to spread the revolution, they would end up like nazi germany in ww2, with all the other countries teaming up to attack them. And if they didn't, they would be subjected to economic warfare, like, well, a dozen examples. The russian revolution was waiting for the success of the german revolution to team up and spread communism across the world, but of course it failed.

Yeah. Ok. You are LARPing. You are pretending a bunch of mud people with 80 IQ deserve, or will bring about, utopia. When in reality you will get South Africa.

ok fam

The "nigger countries" have no economic power and can easily be coup'd once the powerful countries are conquered.

Except no. The policies of Marxists will exacerbate whites numbers declining. No whites == No liberalism, much less Communism.

What in the ==CHRIST== was that debate? I'm legit dumbfounded by it.

I want off this fucking ride

LEFTYPOL

JUST GOT

KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT

Aye it did.

Leftypol is eternally retarded. The funny thing is you think NOT having distracting niggers and know-nothings would be better for your case when in fact it would be much worse for you to try and debate Kulture Kampf with a moderated debate

What policies?

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Redistribution of wealth. Playing to the lowest common denominator and preventing aspirations of individual success.