Constantly talks shit about other groups for not doing anything or "doing socialism wrong"

and you wonder why people think you're a fucking joke

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Yes, unlike all those wildly successful libertarian projects.

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Name one lolbert revolution.

uhh, the french revolution, the american revolution, and literally every single capitalist revolution that created the freedom for you to be posting on this board, the system that created the laptop/phone and the internet that you're using.

boy you sure accomplished a lot

unlike black lives matter, lgbt or feminist frequency which literally did the same thing but to a far larger audience and with proper media coverage.

I always knew the ISSU was a stupid idea from the, start that's why I didn't get involved. Look's like Im the, smart one overall.
you're move!…

Are you pretending to be retarded or are you just that ignorant?

where do you think you are ?

I could of sworn gays can get married in any state in the U.S. now, but maybe I was wrong.

Liberal, proto-leftist revolution
Not an actual revolution, just a separatist war with liberal undertones.
So, zero.
It's a "technological innovation = capitalism" episode

And, even then, I would argue that this was a stupid area to innovate and advance in given all the other global needs that have gone all but completely ignored.

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That's the general European interpretation of it, but I know several historians who make a pretty good case that the revolution changed the way American society was structured to a fairly significant degree.

I don't have the materials on me (sadly) but I could post them this weekend if anyone is actually interested.

Holy shit, you're a walking stereotype.

How was society changed other than no more colonial governors or restrictions on moving west?

The one thing I remember they discussed was how the aristocratic social norms that everyone adhered to just vanished in smoke

So I've been on a bit of a hiatus from Holla Forums for the last month or so. What is this about ISSU? I dropped by once or twice and saw there was some sort of organization in the works, but I hadn't looked into it much further than that.

It was basically just an attempt at helping various leftist student groups network with each other and to help user's start new groups at schools where they didn't exist. I was fairly active earlier in the project but I haven't dropped in in a while. Most of the organizing has been done off of the chan so I have no idea if it's still going or not. It seemed to be moving along just fine so I don't know why it would have died.

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are you saying the french revolution is leftist, because it was clearly libertarian to me

yes, and guess what, that means it was libertarian, they were fighting to establish a democracy and a free market, not a fascist government and a controlled economy
how the fuck was it not a revolution? it shifted the power completely away from the british monarchists and gave it to the people of america.
then how are you posting on here you communist mongoloid
explain how america and japan had faster technological advancement than the USSR, china or DPRK?
what? thanks to capitalist innovation, you got everything you're using right now in much better qualities and efficiency.

literally not an argument

you commies are better off living alone in an isolated commune and kill yourselves within 10 years like jonestown

the serfs rose up against the lords for democracy and freedom. communists rise up against capitalists to establish proto-fascist regimes that kill millions of people

Why is anyone responding to this utterly predictable, idiotic jingoist? This board really needs better moderation.

did it ever occur to you that you might be "undialectical"

No one cares.

Leftism as a word is literally born out of french revolution you drooling burger. Liberty EQUALITY Fraternity

yes, it was very progressive back then as it shifted power from the monarchies to the people, but modern leftists want to do the exact opposite by wanting to give the power back to your great chairman leader and his heirs. communists are the exact opposite of what leftists are supposed to do: fight against government tyranny and for freedom and democracy.
giving everyone the same results =/= EQUALITY you dumb communist tard. the french revolution was to create a society of equal opportunity, not results.
and where's the "liberty" in leftism, or the "fraternity"? you people brew hatred and jealousy everywhere you go, blaming the rich for everything instead of yourself. have you ever tried making some actual efforts to make your worthless NEET life better instead of complaining and blaming it on "muh evil capitalism"?

lol i feel kinda happy to see your little LARPing project fail so miserably.

oh, so now you admit "reformist LGBT" are leftists now? i thought they arent TRUE leftists?

All leftists are tankies apparently.


You're just talking out your ass m8. The French Revolution was the birth of both liberalism (what retarded burgers call libertarianism) and socialism. They were twin movements that shared the goals of freedom, but envisioned differing means of achieving it. The split between the Jacobins and the Girondins is the origin of the left/right dichotomy you tard.

Confirmed not knowing shit about communism.
but being an adept of muh bootstraps you'll surely be able to fix that by yourself >>>/freedu/

Kek, i'm fine being my own boss with my 10k/month, project harder.


They're not leftist, but unlike what you said, lgbt managed to do something.

You're all just fascist X'("
You should probably check with Holla Forums on that.
I have a feeling they'd beg to differ.

oh i get it, REAL leftists arent
of course, liberals are the ones who want people to fight for their own freedom while the socialists are the ones who like to force others to abide by their own standard of freedom. the french revolution created a knife with two sharp sides, and socialism is on the harmful side.

oh i know a lot about your snowflake, infallible form of socialism. it's utopian and full of shit.
just admit you're unemployed with no ambition, m8
no, lgbt didnt do shit, do you really think a movement thats popular among upper middle class college kids managed to convince an entire nation to accept that gays can marry? the PEOPLE succeeded in legalizing gay marriage, the LGBT is just tiny faction that claimed all the victory for it. this is the problem with communism, you always view the achievements of libertarians and freedom lovers as yours and preach about how pro workers you are while taking a shit on the white working class.

Communists have always been for freedom and democracy. Tankies are the only ones who want authoritarian hierarchy. Even most Leninists here believe in direct democracy.
Yes it does, by definition. If you want to argue semantics, it depends upon the kind of equality you believe in. Equality of opportunity vs. equality of outcome.
So you're saying the Jacobins were capitalists?
Depends upon the variety of leftism. Under systems like Stalinism, there is none. Under systems like different varieties of libertarian socialism, liberty is the whole point. We just realize that to actually exercise one's liberty you need at least your basic needs met. If these needs aren't met you are incapable of actually pursuing their desires and dreams, making freedom meaningless.
Solidarity with the international working class.
Hatred for the rich is a natural response to their oppression of the working class, the number of wars they've fought, the destruction of our planet, etc.

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Actually both want people to abide by "their own standard of freedom". Liberals force people to tolerate private property, undemocratic control of the means of production, and capitalism. How is that any different then socialism "forcing" people to abide by socialist economics, democratic control of the MoP, and collectivized property?

Every system "forces" people do be a part of it, because if it didn't then it wouldn't exist.

Let me guess, TPP is the People's doing too?

Not an argument :^)

oh please, you cant argue shit but use the "muh true socialism" argument, then steer the argument to make it about semantics and namedropping your philosophical bullshit that has nothing to do with real life. look around and see if anyone gives 2 shits about your beautiful version of socialism, people are too afraid of being killed and love their freedom too much to be fighting for another stalin or mao or pol pot
except people WANT to keep their private property, they WANT to have responsible and capable members of society being in control of the means of production and they want to be able to make choices and not have to stand for bread lines. why dont you go around asking people if they prefer free market capitalism or socialism?
how exactly is capitalism "forcing" you to live under it? why dont you go to rojava or china or DPRK?

TPP is supported by the collaboration of big government and big businesses, the people have nothing to do with it.
yes i do

a 722 kb jpeg cartoon is an argument? why dont you actually try to tackle what i said?