Hullo fellow leftists. Can we talk about land?

Hullo fellow leftists. Can we talk about land?

I don't mean landlords. I mean peoples 'claim to land' and 'rights' to land i.e Palestinians, Kurds, Native Americans and Aboriginals.

In Stirner fashion, if you cannot protect what is yours, then you have no claim to it once you have lost it. The only way is to take it back by force. But as a fellow leftist should we be advocating for people to have 'land'. Reparations or concessions in the form of land divisions have caused problems in the past such as the Partition of India. The Sykes-Picot agreement was a bit of a disaster too.

I think Palestine is a lost cause and I don't think Native Americans should get land back. I don't wish them oppression, but being a minority it's inevitable sadly. What does Holla Forums think?

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Why talk about socialism when we dont even have socialism yet? This whole thing will just be based on pure speculation.

dreaming is good

I don't remember Stirner saying that.
It was more like no one had a claim to anything to begin with.

Sheesh, when you put it that way, why even have this board in the first place?

I was talking in the present.

The Natives, before colonisation, lived in a land free of private property. We want to return to that, so in a sense they would be getting their land back in the sense that we will no longer be buying and selling it.

Isn't it in my ego's interest to have land? You cannot exist without it and I'll take it by force if I have to.

This.

Google vandwelling and despook yourself, my "egoist" friend.

How do I grow food in a van? Where do I get water from?

Should the Palestinians live in vans?

You go to a market just like everyone else.

Not even close to what I was saying.

But yeah, maybe.

if in one area people vote to secede from your land then that is their goddamn right.
i suppose joining a nation would work too.
assuming of course that none of this threatens minorities by voiding minority protection laws.

i can't recall palestinians voting to join israel?

I am not talking about me personally. I was talking on a global scale. Should Jews have land, should Australian Aboriginals or Native Americans get land back etc.


But your answer wasn't close to what I was asking. I am not talking about legal claims or private ownership. Maybe I mean historical. If people are driven out of their land, should they get it back?


This is a good answer.

Stirner would also say those peoples don't exist you spooked faggot

Abolish religion, capitalism and fix wealth inequality. Then encourage race micksing and fix ethnic conflict by commiting cultural """genocide""" and create a global monoculture.

So one should be indifferent to Israel and Palestine? I see, I guess it makes no difference to socialism who ends up controlling the Middle East. It's odd so many 'leftists' care about it.

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there's not just one type of leftist.
it's more like 50 shades of red.

abolish capitalism, and nationalism will no longer make sense to people. so national claims for land will just become absurd.
true story.

This isn't the same as having "claims"
I think that's important distinction.

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