How would Holla Forums deal with Islam, other than ending excursions into the Middle East?

How would Holla Forums deal with Islam, other than ending excursions into the Middle East?

Let people practice it but treat Islamism like Fascism because it basically is.

Re-education camps.

Islam =/= islamism

What about the more oppresive parts of Islam, such as the treatment of women, that are part of the Quran?

ISLAMIC GOMMUNISM

I would stop funding Saudi Arabia and put an end to military adventurism in the middle east.

The bible says to stone gays and a bunch of other stupid shit. Do (most) modern Christians follow that part of the bible?

Put Muslims into similar material conditions and Islam will become a neutered "cultural" religion like Christianity is.

Lmao jk just kill them all bcuz they stupid brown ppl lol

Nonsense. Fascism is stupidity made up by men. Islam is gods law.

It's really, honestly not that different from the OT or traditional Judaism, because Abrahamic faith has shared roots. Religion isn't ideological for the majority of people.

bomb them back and wait until a situation evolves in which the USA gets finally nuked out of existence

Islamic Communism is fine, I think.

I think Islamic Communism will be interest to see. Hell I might even support it. Just like how want to see X religion Communism would be like.

Islamig gommunism > Islamic communism

Destroy it with rampant fun and expose the internal sexual desires of its members to the point that they dont need religion anymore.

God is dead and we fap to him. =^3

good thing he didn't say that

I wouldn't confront them for their religiosity directly, but I would try to promote policies that hasten the secularization of European-born Muslims, mainly through education.

Not an expert, but AFAIK a ton of the fascist bullshit (like shariah law) comes not from the quran but from separate texts written by medieval political entities and theologians related to political entities.

There is no opportunity of any beginning of a dialogue, if you don't submit you will die by hordes that kill you on sight, there's a reason Islam(true islam, not the offshoots that keep getting crushed) has not been subverted successfully by exterior threats like the one you describe, honestly islam would be based if it wasn't a cancerous stone age cult.

Yeah because Saudi Arabia isn't materially wealthy or anything…

Thats pretty accurate to be honest (that collection of writings is known as the Sunnah), but claiming that the Sunnah is therefore not "True Islam" is very dishonest. Islam has always been very political, there is no doubt amongst the vast majority muslims that those texts are canonical. The canonicity of the Sunnah is not in question because the Caliphs that ruled at the time the texts were canonised were direct successors to the original Caliph (at least according to the Sunnis) and so the authenticity of their Caliphate cannot be in question as each of them came to power through legitimate Islamic methods.

It is this political nature that allows it to change though, Westernized Muslims don't see themselves as any less connected to God.

I doubt it can maintain serious long lasting change, because any attempt to alter the political nature of Islam will inevitably be vulnerable to a fundamentalist simply pointing out that Mohammed himself clearly demonstrated how political Islam was meant to run, and that it looks a little more like ISIS than socialism.

Calling ISIS "Not True Islam" is actually accurate though. They're extremely corrupt outside of urban areas and most of their killings aren't even sanctioned by Islamic writings.
People will believe whatever they want to.

I'm not saying that the problem is that ISIS really is "True Islam"
The problem is that ISIS is "Very Plausible Islam"
If you came across two identical closed community tribes and gave one the Koran and said it was the word of God, and gave the other the Jain Agama Sutras, when you come back in 20 years and find the tribe you gave the koran to living in a way somewhat similar to ISIS and the other tribe living in a way similar to the Jains of India, no one would be overly surprised.
The coruption of ISIS is not surprising, but it doesnt mean they arent trying their best to live according to their holy texts

Improve education and other improve living conditions. Hopefully that would be enough to keep them from going extreme. I would give no exceptions of the law to religious groups. I would outlaw certain religious preaching as hate speech if it actually does call to violence. I also would outlaw indoctrination. Basically anyone is free to pick their religion but also it wont be tolerated to be shoved down peoples throats. I also would have some basics of some religions taught in school so more understanding of various groups is known to help avoid religious conflict.

the same way as with any other religion, including Christianity

But they aren't. Even other terrorists think they are murdering savages. They break half of the Islamic rules of warfare and make up any excuse they can to execute people; in comparison, groups like al-Qaeda see themselves as waging a defensive war against the Western world.
Hell, even the original Islamic caliphates were far better than ISIS. They actually had a workable society and, for the standards of the time, treated non-Muslims with relative respect. ISIS literally just fucking kills everyone who isn't them, including other conservative Muslims.

I think ISIS is better explained in psychological rather than theological terms. Nihilistic, bitter Westerners join their ranks so they can murder wantonly and be famous for it.

Relative respect is kind of underselling it. In the Umayyad Caliphate, you would see Jews and Christians rise to some pretty astronomical positions. This whole 'convert or die' shtick that ISIL is pulling on the dhimmis is a little unprecedented. Granted, you did see individual Caliphs and secular leaders find various reasons to persecute various minorities, but generally they had a vested interest in tolerance due to the way the jizya tax worked. I think I read once that at times conversion was actively discouraged because it would lower tax revenues when your dhimmis turned to Islam, and the shift to Islam in some places like Zoroastrian Persia occurred voluntarily as people used conversion in order to move closer to the ruling classes and gain social standing, prestige and influence, as well as network and whatnot rather than being forced at swordpoint.

ISIL is relying on an overly literal interpretation and an imaginary, idealized past of 'pure' monotheism that never actually existed. I can see the appeal, personally, given the degree of alienation going on in contemporary society - it's like they've managed to build an entire society using the forces that turn people into school shooters.

Tolerate private practice of religion, but don't give sharia courts any legitimacy. I'm not saying sharia is the big evil boogeyman that conservatives in burgerland pretend it is, but that doesn't mean we should tolerate it as a competing power structure. Same with halakah courts.

Bring about socialism and watch it and other religions die in the dirt for lack of relevancy.

Living in a society that revolves around spooks and encourages them is hardly a fitting place to deal with Islam.

It might be underselling it but you need to walk on eggshells in religious discussions or else people start shouting "liberal" at you.

What is there to deal with in the perfect faith?

Imperialism is wrong, and whatever is popular with the people will win out. Hopefully the economic battlefield will replace the military one between the sects,once peace breaks out

If the Islamic faith is perfect why did ibn taymiyyah successfully attacked and defeated Averroes reasoning over scripture principle

Ok maybe al ghazali had him at that time in the god in time paradox but today we know the time relativity between the present future and past

OH w8 the faith is not perfect at all nigga