Holla Forums is secretly aroused by cuck porn

Domination porn, probably.

Prostitution.

The porn industry is in itself an extreme embodiment of capitalism. You are literally watching the workers get fucked over. Their sexuality becomes a product for the bourgeois to exploit. The themes or fetishes involved are inconsequential.
The only class conscious porn is non profit amateurs, self-employed actors, sex-coops and hentai directly from the artist without a middleman to appropriate value.

Femdom

We're pretty open about it though.

Femdom.

But I'm a furfag, I dunno how that really applies to capitalism as a structure but hey.

Anime

i just got rock hard by them double trips

commodity fetishism

Have all your surplus value extracted by the lips and toung of the daughter of your boss.

Strippers and camshows?

Sauce nao!

Honestly, there's no reason to have a daughter. There is no benefit to it, and it becomes a weakness, as your enemies will try to use her to cuck you.

I am aborting any female fetuses my future wife will have. I suggest you all do the same.

Pregnancy, lactation, and incest. I'm sure Freud would have a field day analyzing me.

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As in crucifixion?

I dig this too.

first two are good taste tier, incest is just gross, imo

Leftypol seems to have a thing for milfs and gilfs

The most capitalist form of porn is CFNM. The entire genre is built around women in positions of power like bosses and wealthy housewives sexual harassing helpless male workers. OP is right too I fucking love that shit. Being dominated by a female porky makes me hard is diamonds.

Older women is definitely my kink.
Cuck porn seems capitalist, I didn't know anything about it until pol started obsessing over it.

Heh, you might be onto something, that could be why I like Office Lady stuff.

Seconding request to pass the sauce.

This. Incest a shit. Lactation and pregnancy a good.

I've got a lot of kinks and fantasies, but for gf sex I want a switch who likes to fight. All others I want to dominate but for a parter I want them to hit me back and hold me down will riding me hard.

Don't know about incest, but always wanted to get a woman pregnant so I could have preggie sex and cuddle afterwards. Lactating is more cute than sexy to me though, like something you laugh about if it happens.

I want to dominate an older female porky though. Fucking the shit out of a tied up older bourg wife with my prole cock while I smack her ass would be hot as a motherfucker.

Femdom

Purge yourself off this board

Enforce your mandatory fetishes elsewhere, thanks.

(Checked my property)
By spooks. Go figure.

I believe that is Sore wa Rekishi ni Kakanaide! by Takatsu.

I'd like to cuddle with him, while whispering about the internal contradictions of the logic of accumulation

Cute traps.

Femdom.

The middle in the bottom row is the best, or the one to the right of it.

We are sexless
We recognise the the social aspect of our life is corrupted to the core so we live in this soul crushing system and allured to serve the system no the human

When my labour gets exploited for profit

The most radical choice is to not enjoy, amirite?

Holy shit they made Arin Hanson an anime character?

BORDERLINE NARCISSISM

I like furries, if you know anything about them, you'll know artists are porky as fuck

Some aren't that bad. It's usually in degrees it seems. Patreon is the lastest of porkyism, and boy oh boy, has there been allot of paywalling. Some artists, surprisingly, will just do art for the sake of it. their dissapearing however.

To be fair, I can't get too pissed at people using patreons and commissioning when that's their means of survival because they have decided that's what they want to do for a living.

I agree. When they compare their work to hard labor, or charge massive amounts for simply work. I'm talking like well over 50$ for a sketch by and amateur artist. Some really awful artists, who would otherwise either be forced to improve, or simply wouldn't make a living with non pornographic art, have made bank thanks to furries.

It would actually be more bourgie if you thought of yourself as a porky instead.

ITT: Me ooga you booga

You do know what cuck means, right?

I always knew that you were bunch of little boys who never got enough attention form mommy.

kek

Holla Forums are fascist and they don't have those fantasies. Fuck you.

To be fair, artists in general are treated like shit in the wider world, and the furry community is the only place where they have a decent shot of actually being able to make a living as an artist. Nobody is being forced to purchase furry porn and nobody is being exploited in its production, and every artist has the opportunity to draw furry porn if they want a slice of the pie. If you're too proud like me that's really all on you. That's why I draw scalie porn instead.

Plus, the idea that the desire for self-improvement should only come about because of economic pressure seems pretty perverse to me. If you care about art, you should strive to improve your craft simply for the love of it.

Unless those scalies are cops with large boosums you have literally the most shit taste.

If anything, I've seen the pressure of performing consistently lead to people actively avoid not improving their art. After all, why take time practicing and improving when that means you could end up fucking up a commission or wasting time that should've been spent on proper work?
People get pissed at furry artists for the dozen that make a killing doing it, but then there's the hundreds below that who are making around minimum wage doing it and the thousands who make less than that.

Personally, I'm partial to urethral sounding (female, male only in femdom cum-milking), extreme bondage (several layers of latex + a sleepsack + a tight, portable box), mother-son incest porn (with impregnation), domination and humiliation of strong women, chastity belts with dildos and vibrators (female only), extreme gokkun (including animals, but both only 2D- 3D gokkun is disgusting), stuck_in_wall, female robots, piss-drinking (only clear piss and "not-actually-piss", though, the latter only being available in doujins or erotic stories), anal and hime cuts.

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At least my relationship to my mother was normal enough to not lead into some abnormal fetishes.

I'm really into impregnation raceplay of white dick in minority pussy.

MODS MODS MODS MODS MODS MODS
this is fake.
Delet this.
MODS MODS MODS MODS MODS MODS

I'm serious. I am not racist or sexist but it arouses me.

Is that such a crime?

Only if the male is not dom.

I'm really into Free Use porn, which is either very leftist for the communal aspect, or very porky for the women are property aspect. I can't tell which.

Porn where women are complacent, maybe slightly annoyed or concerned when some random guy walks up behind her to fuck her gets me off like nothing else.

more fetishes mean a wider array of sources to extract pleasure from.

Got an FA?

Femdom is just no go. It will never be anything else than fantasy in human society, not to mention how disgusting the idea of men being idle and freed form their role and responsibilities is.

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You wouldn't happen to be a brown grill would you? Because making a qt latina or ME girl a commie mommy is a dream of mine.

Nah. Should I get one? I'm not really into the furry community or anything like that, beyond the possibility of doing commissions at some point, and I don't identify as anything. Heck, the only reason I even got into scalie stuff to begin with was half /tg/ and TES IV.

Having an audience for your art is a useful thing, and don't worry you don't have to go full on murrsona bullshit to post on furry sites and make that commission money.

Is OP from Auckland?

Hm that's a really good question

Less of a porn thing, but I have fantasies of being rich enough to have a harem of QT teen virgin wives.

Can I see your artwork?

love this

No, I am a white dude.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I considered putting on the flag just to bootybother the "muh communist but still wanting traditional gender roles" faggots.

Even in socialism children still need mother figures, comrade. There is absolutely nothing wrong with liberating the fairer sex form labor that does not fit them.

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People who were raised by the state had higher change of ending up as criminals, thus it would not fit the social planing for socialist society to abolish families. Thing that needs to happen is that party needs to sanction these families by deciding who can marry whom in society to guarantee these families loyalty towards the collective.

Your dystopia is far worse than my "take East Germany to the next level" dystopia.

You're being sexist and men and women.

*Against

Did tfwnogfnazi become a tankie?

Arranged marriages are more stable, thus they would end up raising more psychologically stable children. It is only logical to do this.

No. I`m not a racist.

He acknowledges the facts. Children raised in a stable, traditional home perform better throughout life. And some people aren't fit to be parents. Letting everybody do what they want knowing the state will pick up the slack encourages irresponsible behaviour.

Yup, I am Cameron.

Now cry whilst thinking that I am an infinitely more influential Marxist than you will ever be.

S-so when is the state to wither away?

Not really a fetish, but my biggest secret desire is that I want to be loved and accepted. Most relationships I've had have been really brief(a night to a weekend) and non-emotional and I crave the feeling of finding someone I can open up to who won't reject me. I just want an interesting gf who likes to talk about books, music, and movies and is ok with a guy with a twisted sense. I don't care what race they are and am pretty flexible on fetishes and kinks and monogamy, I just want someone to love who loves me back.

It implies that you have a lack of control over your partner.

But since men are leaders, it's expected that they sexually control their female family members as well.

Hence why people want to "fuck his daughter/sister/mother" of his enemy. It's an act of domination over his family. Hence, daughters are inherently a weakness.

Another Cameron fan? Much love, LSR is currently the best leftist on youtube.

most people here, seeing how triggered everybody is with the anfem flag and love rodina x alunya yuri art, seem to love femdom and yuri porn

femdom =/= yuri

100 times 0 is still 0, even if you are LSR, lol, keep on trucking with your

I've always liked authority shit. Teachers and employers on the female side, bosses and police uniforms on the male side. I'm also horny af for vapid neoliberal hell spawns like Thatcher, Tanden and Clinton just because they're cynical people of power.

Psychoanalyse my shit up.

holy fuck I like post-vore scat and I'm pretty sure I'm less degenerate than you

youtube.com/watch?v=GmVrmnN_PRs

Most porn is capitalist but based on the preferences I've seen so far, and what I know about the industry, id say hentai is leftypol's guilty pleasure

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Holla Forums types are not interesting enough for that.

They want it badly. Holla Forums's fear of nigger fucking white women is borne out of jealousy for the woman being ravished, not for the black guys getting to fuck a white woman. Why do you think Milo Fagopolis surged in popularity with the alt-right? It's because he is open about the desires they secretly have.

I didn't even know what a bull or a cuck was until pol/acks brought it up. So few people on the internet talk about it

I did, but that's because I knew a cuckold in 2011 and fucked his wife while he watched. I'm a white guy and he didn't seem to want only niggers to fuck his wife, just guys that looked better than him. In Holla Forums world every white guy who doesn't care that white women fuck black guys is a cuck because they're not disgusted by the supposed humiliation. It doesn't make much sense and like most of their shit trying to analyze it just leads one to conclude they've got a lot of sexual frustration.

it's almost as if Holla Forums is less mentally stable than the general population

inb4 comeback is something Stalin or Mao wrote themselves again

This. They have studied cuckoldry quite extensively.

You tankies are literally worse than social democrats and liberals

Heritage foundation has for example published multiple studies on this. There are also other groups with similar findings, just use google.

Are you going to link to Cato Institute studies to show how great capitalism is?

u-uhh

Funding is irrelevant, only statistics matter.

Statistics lie. That's the entire job of statistics.

I like fat matures. Does they count as female porkies?

like how fat and how mature

like carrie moon? I fucking love carrie moon

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We're not secretly aroused by anything because we're not retards who are ashamed of sexuality. Some niggas thirsty af tho, 'specially for femposter.

Military-themed gay porn (if it has nazi uniforms, the better), femdom, sph, cei and Sadler's Half-hour Hegel

Sure - I intend to post all of my stuff on my tumblr, which is nebelgewehr dot tumblr dot com. I don't actually have much of anything as of right now, since up until very recently I've been periodically doing that thing where I decide that all previous work is shit and delete it all in a fit of pique.

She's pretty hot yeah. I do go for even older and fatter too tho.

This tbh with this logic.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heritage_Foundation

Please tell me more of the wisdom of these vanguards of Leftist dialectic, comrade!

probably prostitution

the commercialization of sex

I like pregnant women, which is funny because I don't want kids.

For me it's lolis wearing diapers.

I don't think it's particularly capitalist and it isn't a case of the lady protesting too much.

enslaving goyim

yeah I've found femdom is quite common here

Being a sub used to appeal to me more when I was less depressed. Now pretty much all of my fantasies are dominant.

I've always been kinda sexually a sub but in normal life I like either doing things myself or being in charge

Am i the only gurofag here?

Sometimes the dead can do it, the guro aspect is give or take.

I'm the opposite: mostly dominant(will do some sub stuff for a long-term partner) when it comes to sex, but I like taking care of gfs and making them happy.

Yeah, I tend to avoid taking on roles of authority or responsibility in real life. In fantasies on the other hand, I want to be the one holding the leash.

While this is true it presupposes family units as an important part of social structure. Within a society where this is accepted it would cause psychological dysfunction to deviate.

there could be non-family bound child rearing situations

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only in societies where that is expected

imagine being raised only by trained midwifes and nurses who FUCKING LOVE BABIES because the means of productions are liberated and occupations are choice based

I'm secretly very much aroused by dominating girls and traps

boner, I did not ask for this

i just dont get gurofags

what about it gets you off? i'm legitimately curious. is it the aspect of domination over someone else's body?

bump

most capitalist porn? Look up 'property sex'

Domination plays a part but there is also a part about despair and suffering. Butl eviscerated girls with ahehoga faces are also making me hard… Freudposter pls help.

I mean, I assume so…

I'm a libertarian socialist who wants to tie people up and fuck them

We all know that you like to pay for it…

you know I can actually speak a little french

Oh?

Can you please not post lewd.

I like shoes. I own more pairs of boots and shoes of different kinds than my wife does. I would have loved to make shoes, but that doesn't pay the bills.

I would totally watch debates between Foucalt and Chomsky after tying you up and licking your nipples in a teasing way before going down on you.

I think you would enjoy it too

That sounds like a very expensive party.

I could provide this experience with nothing but shoe laces and something to tie the around.

We could do it in a hotel room and get liquored up first if you prefer an expensive party.

I think going down on someone is about rhythm and stamina, while building up to it extremely slowly.

Is that an iphone charger? Do you not know that Apple is anti-freedom?

Nice tits though.

…kinda not what I meant.

Thanks.

Voluptuous Nazbol women

I've seen better

On peut faire ménage à trois?

MLP

Freud sucks tbh. Why must Freudians look into everything? Nobody is secretly arroused by anything.

keep holding on, comrade

I love dominant women, especially women in power, me being chained up, or being used as a sex object by a powerfull (pretty) rich woman.

I dont really make it a huge secret though. My friends know.

the fuck

I just liked that we got him to literal 'fag-out' over Hatoful Boyfriend.
Also he could not play Papers, Please because he is secretly a genetically inferior sahagin.
(even with glasses could barely see the text)
also never put this man behind any large mechanical object. If he were in the US he would've been arrested and forcibly NEETed for the safety of the public.

you're just playing into his fetish now.

you're in the wrong Holla Forums for this, friendo!

Do you just suck at design or something or is it exclusively men's? If the second your only hopes are to move next to an amish village or marry an old gay Italian that already has brand rec.

you know how chix-on-dix fags will argue for months over whether something is a futa or a shemale?
same deal. Dozens of variants. The tame ones just want a qt zombie gf. (and even that has two branches. One prefers "slightly rotten normal cheerleader chick" and the other basically wants a skeletal barrow wight with a wispy hint of former tatas, somethin' like the L4D witch or "the hag"), cut'em/kill'em then fuck'em is like the vanilla "normie idea of BDSM" tier, then you come to the entrail-fuckers and "dissolvers." Some get laser-focused and cease to get off on anything but their preferred kill method even.

my non-STEMlord interests in uni included an artapp specifically focused upon Vanitas which reinforced it as primary fetish. (Something about the "emptiness" of the eyes of 16th century still-life women really got into me! Glad it went this way rather than turn into a Terri Schiavo veggie fetish cuz that exists too, as a subset of the Amputee/Helpless Ill Grill genre.)

My own specific path was rape (from 9, thank you Lifetime traumedy-of-the-day movies) > zombie chick (thx Italian horror films on USA Up All Night and Gilbert Gottfried) > zombie chick piecemealed by street samurai and/or shotgun (better than their wines!) > "ryona" (fighting vidya, Golden Axe, Red Sonja, 90s 'edgy boobie comics' like Lady Death and Harbinger and Jim Balent's whole career) > add real chicks to this (local mob execution splash page, they'd accidentally (or perhaps 🍀🍀🍀accidentally🍀🍀🍀) used an angle that exposed the wife) however I was unaware this was an explicit fetish until discovering Suehiro Maruo and Shintaro Kago, I just presumed it was a continuing spiral from the zombie gril rapefest. Turns out your average rapist only kills to remove evidence/witness. Met one at some BDSM club in Budapest that was absolutely squicked when I asked if he'd kept her.
I was basically Thin H Line's Shuinji when I started, unabashedly open about it and seeking tier bro-ing. I found one eventually, but I squicked him with the other thing. (1997 G2 reprezint!)
also it's hard for normies to grok but there's way more women than men into it, and they like to fantasise about being the ones killed. Never had a chance to run into one irl though. Cutedeadgirl and Necrobabes are/were both run/owned by women. So is Studio S, oldfags from halfchan /f/ may remember "mesubuta.swf" which was essentially their frequently spammed massively triggering advertisement. Most of their games revolve around torturing, then killing lolis or post-grads. They also have a ridiculous gag-boob fighting game I forget the name of but is all over Spanishtube/Mugenland

There's also those that go in the opposite direction of us two, the "future serial killers" that "do it out of love." Tend to write War&Peace-length fics about falling in love with some gal, something happening to break them up, then killing her so they remain together 4ebers. tl;dr male yandere would be the shortest description. For some reason a lot of those types are really big on 'womyn's rights' (to be killed? lol!) Heck even "Labia-on-a-table-man" is one of those. His nostalgia chick guro we'd presumed meant he hated her. Nah son of course it was way creepier than that! (Talkin' framed photo of her feet above the bed creep not "your fetish a shit")
When he told us he'd sent the IRL copy to her, hearty chuckles m8.
Also ryona/guro have a lot of crossover for you neophytes looking it up on the 'tubes but not ttly the same. "It's about the journey, not the (final) destination!"

can confirm this

Personally I love pregnancy, lactation (not over the time cow shit though), Traps, and hyper manly guys
Being bi feels good
I also clop a lot but not as much as I used too

I will fam, but it seems most girls I meet just want to fuck me and leave me. I thought I met a nice girl in uni but after we fucked for a few hours on Saturday she told me it was good but she didn't want to date me, today I saw her flirting with a guy and holding hands. And it's like that with every woman or man that shows interest in me, like I'm nothing but the guy they fuck for a day or use as a bootycall and never talk to again.

Nope. I want to be wanted and to be loved, not pay an admittedly beautiful woman to pound her pussy for an hour.

This

Pretty cute
Do you stay busy with your work? Considering you're pretty high class I'd imagine you rely more on regulars than new clients

ayyyy, I love to mix!

also I have a secondary fetish that accompanies it, if it's a christian getting raped and killed it's 250% hotter.

Too easy. Financial Domination AKA Findom.
urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=findom

Property sex ?

So bourgeois marriage?

Femdom

Why?
Femdom is almost exclusively male (maybe even exclusively without the findom-prostitutes and the women who want a Dom for sex and a sub for cuddle and friendship only), femdom-guys are therefore alienated and lonely, too pervert for the right-wingers but too straight and male for the SJW and feminists with their rape fantasies. Therefore, a great many Femdom-men become failures, people who read a lot but still fail in college - as a result you then get these intellectual minimum-wage-workers who are bitter and angry and full of rage. Which is basically Holla Forums

PS
Also, femdom is a kind of escapism into a world where you don't have to work and don't have to take any responsibilty but are provided for by your Mistress who is supposed to take the patriarchal-male role in a relationship (dominate and provide).

Therefore, a great many femdom fantasies are about worlds and societies in which women rule absolutey and men are treated like pets.

This is also very prevelant on Holla Forums

I want a society free of every knd opression and exploitation, but in bed im very rough and dominant, and I bite a lot.

Thats the biggest contradiction I found

Same here, I think it's because consent is important to me

I'm not seeing the contradiction, but perhaps that's because I'm similar. I fantasize about domination and really rough sex because to me that's passion, gentle sex lacks that and seems the thing you do when you're trying to fool yourself into believing you like someone.

they could just be pedos though

haha. good one

This, 2d porn should be the replacement.

I'm into ballbusting and cuntbusting, also paradoxically pussyenvy. Don't know how its related to capitalism though, besides the whole gender wars thing.

Oh, lots of things.

I'm not secretely aroused by anything.
If you're in my intimate circle you'll know what I like. If you're not I won't shove it in your face (why would I?).

Go rub that projection cake into the faces of those you mentioned. My view on sexualities and fetishes is blatantly "don't hurt people, I don't care about anything else" and "if we're not close don't shove your shit in my face and I won't shove mine in yours".

Sounds like you're tying identities and regular behavior of political sides already defined by identities, to the norm of what economic theory and views upon such stems from, to even ask this question.

"What type of projection to actual leftists have that is equal to the projection of the self-loathing social-right?" It makes no sense.

Blow me, asswad.

Well don't tease us faggot, tell us your fetishes and kinks.

Gentle/Compassionate Femdom.

Tell us about your mother.

All I know is that I can't conceive of my own death and that I had nightmares about my penis when I saw a vagina.

Everything is fine.. .. except for that first pic.. like… WTF?

Tell us about the nightmares.

It's pretty obvious that Holla Forums's not so secret fetish is falling for bait.

Meh

bump

scat

bumpin again

t-thanks

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You are a 6/10 at best. No wonder you're a feminist.

What do you call that rhetorical tactic?

Oh, I'm just fine with design. I have a couple of custom pairs, even. I know that I'd have to apprentice for a few years if I wanted to do this as a hobby. I love men's shoes exclusively. I have 17 pairs of shoes counting my boots.

medieval harem shit

same but i'm a white dude >:)

I agree. GFD is the fucking best.

Well I would say Violent Revolution. The next best thing is bait.

Nice trips fam.

I have fantasy about having a harem of milfs who take care of all my needs everyday whether they be food-related, sex or otherwise. Included in the caretaking of my sexual needs would also include satisfying any kind of fetish I might have such as allowing me to cum inside them at anytime because I have a creampie fetish.

Freud would have a field day with me.
FALC can't come soon enough.

Tell me about your mother.

I like SJW-looking crazy bitches
_____
And fat ones at that

I have a real thing for butch (but not TOO butch) lesbians.

/ara/ ara~

Speak of the devil and he shall appear…

Holding hands.

But seriously, gay furry porn.

Hardblush doesn't count. It's so strange how attractive it is to people who otherwise wouldn't find it so.

teen (anal) punishment porn
seldomly cute traps, but only if they're under 25(and legal of course)
trannies that are older give me the heebie-jeebies

Same. Literally grabbed my dick after seeing them.

I think that's just called intercourse.

Also the femdom affinity many here have speaks volumes about the western left

:^)

The absolutely unwarranted self-importance by virtue of biological sex followed by praise from salivating aspies. I literally can't decide which is more pathetic. Go away hoe, I don't see the need to show my dick around here for attention, and neither should you. Your tits are mediocre at best and you have the waist-hip ratio of a 10 year old boy. You're not hideous, but also nothing special except in burgerland where everybody is fucking morbidly obese.

One of the rare times I agree with a NEETsoc
I can fuck prostitutes that are 10 times more attractive for a 50, why the fuck would I revert to 6/10?

Hmmn…really makes me thingkg…

The flag is kinda wrong, cuz I would be a commie transhumanist, but there's only anarkiddie transhumanism flag on this pleb board

Hardblush is shit

I'm glad I'm gay.

It's so extremely cliché I can't even.
I wonder where this comes from.

Tasteful loli. None of that pregnant diaper-wearing oppai guro rape shit.

capitalism decided the most successful form of porn is the one where you see a 10-minutes closeup of their asses and the guy's schlong and balls.
so i guess that is capitalist porn?
doesn't arouse me tho.

anyway, sage because OP is a faggot.

It's not that unusual, and at least it's less weird than adults wearing diapers.

Ones that you need to pay

Rape, violence, knifeplay, murder, choking, deepthroating, gags, whipping, chains, most things really.

this tbh

PEDOS GET OUT REEEEEEEEE

I like guro

nice digits.

also femdom 100%

not hardcore violent femdom. I just like the power dynamic when it's a bit more subtle. Glad to see there are plenty of other patricians in this thread

Explain please.

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It's Dead Demon De Destruction, by Inio Asano

Mandatory reading.

I like pegging. I like situations where she gives me orders. I don't like ball-stomping/piercing shit/etc. I like weird power dynamics but I don't necessarily like being in pain.

No, the now-deleted image those were both pointing to and asking the source for was definitely from Sore wa Rekishi ni Kakanaide! which is about the son of an archaeologist who finds a mysterious sarcophagus in his room that contains a nubile sex mummy that he ends up banging for the entirety of the manga, and also her mom and all her friends who also emerge from sarcophagi in the present somehow. There's also some chapters where it's random shotas banging the Egyptian milfs but I don't know how those figure into the main plot exactly.

So you want to be dominated, but in a loving sort of way and without sadism/masochism involved? You wouldn't be that really tall ancom who likes being dominated by tiny women would you?

There is nothing sexier than a girl or guy reading. I like talking about books and fucking them.

fag

You shouldn't judge. After all, you dream of being raped by tanks.

Sick burn right there m8.