The Irish Times talks about White genocide

How to deal with hook up culture? It helps to bring whites to an extinct race, and pushes for wigger instincts.

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Yeah we need 6 trillion whites to be born. Instead of actually solving the problem.

Why not both?

Not entirely true with regards to the West, U.S. in-particular. Birth control probably shows more universal evidence for the destruction of birth rates across the developed world than anything else combined. If you Wiki the rates they almost universally tank in the mid to late 60's overnight.

Just so happens that's the same time frame that the doors flew open to the West so it gets overlooked by the more obvious threat standing in front of you.

Also can't understate the materialistic world we're living in that's contributing to people wanting to forgo children altogether for a "fun" life. Factor in high taxes with or without immigration and you just have a cluster fuck of a situation.

tl;dr the birth rate is a multitude of issues all working in tandem that can't be separated given their historical times to the same time period.

Yeah but our populations are also at a historical high, so it doesn't matter. There are more whites alive today than at any other point in all of history.

Yes, make birth control illegal.

Why not kill the fucking niggers jews and mud people and have a sane population?

How do you even know if the reported statistics are true?

I'm glad to see The Irish Times is talking about it. We potatoes won't die out without a fight!

Reminder that the birth control pill was invented by a jew. Someone post the pic

Ireland has always hunted the Jews out of our country. As recently as the second world war, the parish priest of my town railed up the people to expel them. But we've also had non-stop kike-indoctrination in schools since the eighties. Our national broadcaster is nearly as cucked as the BBC. And we have faggots like vid related in power.

Trips confirm. Pic would still be nice, though.

So much jealous for the Irish having more backbone than your ((MSM))

Try to find one source for European birth rates faggot.

1) population cannot expand forever, because humans consume resources and resources are finite either in abundance or output rate. The population explosion of the 20th century is the result of technological breakthroughs that drastically increased production and energy outputs (fossil fuels, nitrogen fixation, etc).
2) Luxury and quality of life can be measured in terms of resource consumption per capita. Personal houses, vehicles, education, clean parks, community events, etc, all have their costs
3) Based on 1 and 2 we can conclude that there is a point where population growth and resource production intersect at a certain quality of life level. Further population growth can be achieved either by producing more, or lowering the quality of life
4) White countries have overwhelmingly chose the former. Sure, we can have 10x as many people if we feed everyone gruel and stuff them in 2x2 concrete boxes, but for some reason whites don't want that.
5) In other words, white countries have reached the natural equilibrium population. Just as the world before the 20th century had a relatively stable population, so would the white countries of today. This is not a problem, were it not for immigration.
6) Immigration is enormously profitable for the (((economy))), which is used as the main excuse by politicians and (((economists))). Each new immigrant is a consumer and a borrower. Immigrants can be saddled with debt, obliging to pay for new houses and cars that the natives don't buy as much anymore because of stabilized growth. Each immigrant also increases the labor supply, which drives down the cost of labor (simple supply/demand relationship). So immigrants make tons of $$$, while at the same time lowering the $$$ to be paid by employers. Who gives a shit about the demographic effects, the downsides, the unsustainability of this model. The costs are taken up by the native population (increased housing prices, lower wages, higher taxes to subsidize immigrants), while a tiny (((minority))) immensely profits.

tl;dr birth rates aren't a problem, kikes are

this.

(((politicians and economists))) are fucking obsessed with growing the economy. its a stupid concept because the economy grows if people require it, you cant force it.

100 years late

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Wrong. A genocide is actively being perpetuated against whites through social and economic conditions designed to make further births impossible.

It's not so funny now that it's happening in you back yard, Bong

The impact of (((feminism))) on white females not wanting to have families until their biological clock beats their mind into submission is a mirage then?

Mass immigration and forced asssimilation into all and only White countries will lead to enough intermarriage to eventually blend White people out of existence. That's White genocide, all the other things are just (((their))) attempt to speed it up. We've lost massive chunks of our population many times before and recovered.

You can’t get whites back if they’re bred out, dipshit.

First came the slowdown of white birth rates, then to compensate, (((immigration))) started being pushed, because you need those immigrants goy, they'll pay for your retirement.

Which is another argument that pisses me the fuck off. Your children and your life choices should pay for your fucking retirement, not imported shitskins. But instead, our children's future is sold by kikes making a quick buck, who then have the audacity to claim that (((immigration))) is the cure and not the cause.

It's part of the package, but not the whole story. Feminism's function economically is pretty much the same as immigration's, - more labor and consumption for the (((economy))). It's all a way to keep muh GDP growing, because people then borrow and spend (and are coerced into borrowing and spending - see inflation and the talk of negative interest rates), which means kikes can keep making money. Society has been engineered for decades to keep this gravy train going, feminism is only a part of it.

I've recently come to realize something regarding reproductive rates. For the longest time I was under the assumption lower/declining white reproduction rates were inherently bad. That if we weren't actively growing our population we were doomed. However in retrospect I've changed my thinking somewhat.

Every major civilization has had reproductive downturns, periods of population contraction after growth. With the rise of computing and technology in general our economies are less labor intensive and as such need fewer bodies. The same applies to our other power structures, particularly military capabilities.

Part of this population contraction is artificial stemming from easily available contraceptives and the rise of feminism. These are issues which need to be addressed, however it does not seem as though this population decline is necessarily bad on two conditions.

1. The population decline must bottom out at a point and reach replacement levels within a few decades.

2. We cannot allow the powers that be to use what should be a good thing for our people as a pretext for mass migration. These traitorous power hungry despots KNOW that a smaller work force means higher wages and more leverage being given to the working/middle classes. They cannot allow that, they NEED a fresh stream of low skill migrants to keep wages low.

TL;DR: If we can lock down our borders, halt our demographic dilution, and expel our traitors this population decline isn't really the death knell of the West. All we really need to do is survive long enough to get off this planet anyway.

Because Europeans (along with Nips) know that they've reached the sustainable population ceiling in their respective countries. Granted I still think our birthrates should be higher because the Jewed culture and propaganda as well as the imported shitskins has a large impact on the amount of European reproduction and feeling of space availability but it should not be expected that we should continue to grow and grow in population size. The one thing that will change that is A. removing kebab, removing bagel, removing basketball and the most important, B. Acquiring efficient long-distance space travel, then our growth ceiling becomes virtually infinite.

meant *two things

Yes, and that was done ON PURPOSE. Not as a natural consequence of some random condition.

OY VAY GOYIM!

Don't worry tap water and "drinking water" are fine for you, distilled water will kill you goyim.

This is why the whole meme that Japan's low birthrate is a bad thing is a total joke. It's only bad for the jews.

Exactly. If Japan doesn't get enriched, and its birthrate stays the same for the next 50 years the whole jewish narrative about immigrants making countries better will completely fall apart to even the most braindead cuck.

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You can't compete with Chinese or nigger or spics when it comes to birth rates for example. Because "whites" are human and not beasts

Even chink birthrates have started to drop, that's why they stopped the one child policy. Though the drop in birth rates in China is due to everyone having only male children so now there are barely any women of breedable age. It's almost like they purposely created an invading army to rape and pillage with.

What is this image describing?

This. Japan's birthrates have plummeted due to the central bank's inflationary spree of growth in the 90's and the fact that Japan is a small island that cannot handle excessive population growth, as older people die, and as real estate and jobs are freed up for younger generations, Japan's birthrates will increase to replacement+, which will lead to another population glut, and another population crash, etc. and this cycle will continue without the survival of Japanese people being threatened. Absent externialities like (((them))) or mass immigration, temporary reduction in birthrates is not a bad thing in and of itself, especially in response to the carrying capacity of natural resources. In excess, or manipulated by kikes, it is disastrous and tantamount to genocide.

South Korean birth rates are plummeting, due to western media influence. It's not nearly as bad as American culture. White American culture does not even resemble itself any longer.

Obviously immigration is being pushed, but the point you missed is that a stabilizing population will stabilize its economy as well. We're heading towards a hellish urban explosion if non-white birthrates keep skyrocketing. The main reason this is happening that people keep throwing their money around and tolerate it being stolen from them because they expect it to circulate back. That isn't happening and Western civilization sank billions of dollars into the third and second world, with the only return being immigration.

I'm tired of the constant whining about birth rates. It's unsustainable for whites to breed like niggers and with automation and technology constantly advancing, there's no reason we need each generation to be larger than the last.

The important thing is white homogeneity, not raw white numbers. We need to shut our borders and deport the shitskins who are already in our countries and leeching off our society. Once we have homogeneous white nations again (Germany for Germans, Britain for British, etc), I think our countries will thrive again and we don't have to breed like rabbits since we've cut away so much social cancer.

Equality for women, then the bubble economy/all that shit in the 90s, and now porn/hentai/muh dick is the nail in the coffin.

emancipation of women is the all encompassing answer
There are suppressing factors, you can even see their influences within a population, not just between.

I swear to God I saw these replies 1 year ago, and I know I wrote in reply this reply saying I saw these replies!

…that's literally what i just said

If you're thinking of the plague or the world wars, the former occurred when there was nobody foreign in our lands taking up space and resources, and the latter almost destroyed us. Anons here need to realise that we almost fucked ourselves up permanently in the 20th century, not just from war but also the "peace" that resulted from it. Growth like we saw from 1800-1900 isn't a permanent feature of our societies, as points out pretty well.

Japan is a great case study in this regard. The fruits of modernity have allowed us to sustain a much larger population than was possible in the medieval era, but this should have been just another plateau in our history. Thanks to certain influences, it's looking to become our final act. I don't think anything of this sort has ever occurred since long-forgotten antiquity.

wow you weren't kidding.

Plus there is no guarantee that those stats are credible given how much they fuck with other demographic stats by counting niggers & spics as white. Even if the stats were reliable there is high probability that lower birth rates are a natural & necessary occurrence.

You hear kikes complain about overpopulation while simultaniously flooding the country with socialist-voting welfare leeches so I would chalk this up to what that user said: a red herring used to hasten genocide of whites.

it's because cunts are in the workforce stagnating wages with the immigrants instead of having families and ruining it for those trying to.

Hey im white and want a red hair wife. How common are red heads in ireland? Willing to move their etc. But how rare are they and if i have a shit load of kids will that help keep red hair alive even though i have brown hair?

The reduction in quality of the population when "people of less worth" have 4 kids each and "high value" people have 2, over 120 years.

White children under 5 in America are already the minority, your argument is bullshit.

Deporting citizens also isnt going to happen, youre fucking delusional if you think you can deport your own citizens to other countries they dont hold citizenship in, also, youre now the minority, and in about 10 years youl start to feel it when whites have less than 50% of the vote. Niggers have upwards of a 6.0 replacement rate, and whites are all negative. You people make me sick, its too late in 10 years. Thats the point. You talk like we have all the time in the world, and our grandkids (which we wont have) can save the world.

Guess what bub, its your life or the race. We have until those 5 year olds (as of 2014, so they are 8 years old now) can vote to fix the problem. YOU HAVE 10 YEARS - TICK TOCK WHITE MAN STOP PROCRASTINATING

I'll put a 2nd baby in my wife as soon as I get over this flu, user. Just for you.

Better start pumping out babies then user.

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This.

Even if you plan to deport illegals (good luck doing that, and pretty much the only leader of a significant western country who has said they want to do this is Trump), you're still going to have loads of legal non-whites in your nations who certainly won't go quietly - and even if you go extreme and have the military step in to remove them, most of these militaries have a large portion of non-whites in them.

I don't really see a realistic solution to stop a takeover, but finding a way to convince non-whites (as has been done to whites) to breed less globally will at least slow down things a little. And it isn't enough just to slow it down for them within white nations since the governments of said nations will then just fill the gaps with… well, you guessed it.

or you pull a Hitler and conscript your own peoples army ala the SA. Which is probably the best way to do it. But as Hitler quickly found out they lack discipline and can be unloyal to the cause.

You start on populations with a small population, that way the minorities are smaller proportionately to whites. Then ship the victor whites over to bigger countries to bolster white numbers. In time you've removed the minorities from those countries. Then all that's left is to conquest the non-white lands to contain the problem that way they can't escape.

Actually killing them should only be done if they resist. Occupying their countries is not automatically a call for genocide, they ultimately decide that. Being Niggers they will most definitely choose to be stupid and die so naturally genocide is the only option.

This is why WW3 may be a good thing assuming the 3rd world gets utterly wiped out because it means less problems for us. The biggest fear is if Europe and the west falls against China as this will be the end of civilisation and eventually humanity. Only the Whites can save us, if we let anyone else in control it leads to all of our extinction, not just whites.

That's pretty woke.

The Chinese know their dependency on us. They won't be so stupid.

Is boiling water enough?

That's because the Irish and their descendants (in other anglo countries) seem to be more switched on to this shit.
I don't know what it is with germanics but they are fucking retarded when it comes to subversion. Sometimes they aren't even aware of what is slapping them in the fucking face.
Most awake people here in Aus (like me) have celtic heritage. We can see the bullshit.

Except when you run out of potatoes and seek new clay, turning to a life of crime in the Irish mafia.

t. someone that was a consequence of that.

Not sure if you're all shills or just dumb cunts. Do you not realise what a fertility rate of 1.2 is going to do to a country? Sure build walls to keep out the billions of Africans, but who's going to man them? Robots and the elderly? If we don't have children then our people will cease to exist. I don't see how that is in any way controversial.

Whites are currently below replacement level in most of Europe, which threatens the future economic and cultural survival of the continent. Funny thing about population is that even if you have 500 million people, they will soon drop to 300 in few decades as most of them dies off, if you don't have enough children born to replace them.

At the moment we need stability in our numbers and even small growth would be beneficial. It is numbers of shitskins that must drop below replacement and then stay low to preserve their fucking biospheres - Africa, India and China are already ecologically depleted and now they swarm over to us. Whites somehow managed to retain their connection to nature and understand it better than these primitives.
Overpopulation is a meme as well, Europe is well below carrying capacity but at the same time we like to have our living space and leave some for our nature as well, hence why current numbers need ot be stabilized and non-europeans thrown out. They are literally threatening to suffocate us with their numbers. The only logical solution is to remove them and have kids at the same time - you need both and one won't work without the other. The bonus is that for every liberal non-breeding pair you get ot have two more of your own kids.

I think I understand why there is such opposition to this around the chans: a lot of us are not too good with women and have no children of our own, and therefore we feel inadequate. We then rationalise away these feelings of inadequacy by assuring each other that white children don't matter. But they really, really do.

(Ditto the 'automation' arguments: they were saying this when the mechanical loom and the steam engine was invented. But technology has only created more jobs. The NEET age isn't coming any time soon. Sorry lads.)

We must secure the existence of our people and a future for WHITE CHILDREN. Blood and soil, not just soil. 'Muh automation, muh environment, muh resources:' these are arguments which are valid in a perfect world which does not exist. What exists, in reality, not fantasy, is the imminent threat of racial war. We will need soldiers in this war. A lot of young, healthy, white soldiers, many of whom will die. So stop lying to yourself, get off the internet, and get your shit together. In this world of eternal struggle, all who are not prepared to fight, do not deserve to live.

Checked. Take a shower, shave your neckbeards and start making fucking babies.

you're stuck in a time loop

Bingo, this is it.

Women at home = babies
Women at home = full time jobs for men with good pay to retain workers
Women at home = house prices fall due to less double income families who can afford to pay huge prices

Feminism is the death knell of all advanced civilizations.

Wasn't it in the 60s that women achieved sexual "liberation" ?

That coincides with the floodgates bursting open to mostly 3d world immigrants and the start of the dissolution of the family. (((Holywood))) became increasingly left-wing and porn started booming. It began with the debauchery of the hippies and then the drug-fetishizing culture of disco.

Oppulence and peace + big cities naturally lower birth rates.
Population size tends to always stabilize.
Birth rates are NOT the issue.

Immigration is.

You just ignored every argument in the thread outlining that in the 60s (when the decline began) abortion started becoming legal, and the widespread use of birth control began. Also the culture influenced by the (((media))) began a slow decline into degeneracy and the destruction of the nuclear family.

Buncha retarded defeatism in this thread.
Your ancestors had half-a-dozen kids per couple at the minimum. There's no reason that white people aren't capable of that today, but their cultural programming and the shackles of the shit economy. Meanwhile the shitskins keep fucking, don't plan ahead, and expect us to deal with the consequences for them.
The pearl of wisdom you should have gleaned from identity politics is that every group is acting in its own self interest, they will happily disturb the equilibrium to benefit themselves, and you can either serve your own group or watch it perish. So you can keep jerking off over the idea of a perfect underpopulated world free of nonwhites while you watch your lands burn, or you can get to fucking and making little soldiers.

Can't speak for the rest of the world but here in sweden the cause is clear. Young men and women do not want to have children. This is especially true for women.

In school they are told to persue a career and to "experience the world". They feel that starting a family gets in the way of this.

Also swedish women are
TERIFFIED
of giving birth. They are told it is the most painfull thing that can happen and that their bodies will break from it. DOTR can't happen soon enought.

This is the narrative with which feminism has drived the biggest wedge between men and women. Their weapons are abortion and birth-control, and their creed is "be free! a baby is a ball and chain! think ONLY of YOURSELF! Be a slut!" and so on.
Family values are looked down upon and housewives are guilted by their 'englithened women" friends who wanna suck off a shotgun when they end up alone in their mid/late thirties.

Degenerates not breeding should be a good thing unfortunately they are voting to open our borders before they die off.

If you want to end the hook up culture, you need to stop the education and media systems from promoting random sexual encounters as a good thing.

Agreed, sadly the culture itself is degenerate and it's molding countless minds in that misshapen image.

This x1000. Pic related shows you what is being pushed as art and "cool". It's a literal list of degeneracy and decadence pushers.

True, feminism needs to go and stay go. It looks dark but I'm not about to give up on my people. Somewhere along the line there will be an opening and we'll set things right again.

Nothing but respect for you for hanging on. It must be depressing as fuck living over there at the moment. Stay strong.
The opening is now. It has begun. The right rises.

Literally the only thing their body is designed for and they are shying away from it. If Swedes want to go extinct it's their call, but this meme needs to be destroyed with all the fire we can muster.

Women are designed to give birth - they have wide hips to let the child out of the womb and have breasts to feed it until it can take solid food.
Once you have one child, others that come after have easier time. Narrow hips and bad reactions to pregnancy come from those women who are maladapted through survival of those mutations and genes that would have otherwise died without medical care.

There are studies out there that relate to woman's physical condition, appearance and psychical state once she gives birth vs ones who have no children at all. I can't recall them but there is stuff there that can support a counter to this horrible thing.

An equivalent to this would be saying that men should not do sports or work out because they can injure themselves and their bodies get all funny with muscles. It's madness - if we do not follow our bodily designs, human race fails. It only needs to happen once for humanity to fail forever for you live and die only once.

Thanks man.

mfw

They are, I think a lot of it has to do with how much more liberal our cultures have become recently. Things like rampant homosexuality, transsexualism, "hookup cultures", excessive drinking/drug use/ etc., are what's causing birth rates to drop.

People have no pride in themselves anymore. With this being the case, they are less likely to bring anyone else into this world because we are being taught to care solely about ourselves and getting married is being stigmatized as being a bad thing or likely ending badly.

tl;dr

- We need to go back to 1950's stylized cultures for anything to significantly change.

Does anyone else know how many times kosher powers like christ insanity butchered the majority of Ireland's population? Hint: it was multiple times.

It won't be the first time potatoes come back.

Capitalism kills. Chasing after money kills. Capitalist "rat race" is not a good environment for raising babies.

You can see it clearly in this pic.

Isolation (even more than the English and Scottish), as well as a deeply ingrained suspicion of foreigners and authority from over a thousand years of having to deal with invaders.

Also the Jews forget about the Irish a lot, so they are less brainwashed.

Wew.
This coming a day after I read an article by the only truly based journalist in the Country when I was reading the paper at my grandparents, the article basically went like this:
The Future is Bright, The Future is Right.

Religion and family values are absolutely a must have to reclaim and replace our nation's adrift. Good is good no matter who does it.

You guys are not looking at the big picture.

Most Americans use to live on small farms as substance farmers. That was when they had five children per woman.

Now America is a service economy.

The only kind of economy women can participate in to a subversive degree because technology and economic surpluses compensate for the hard labor humanity has now been able to opt out of.
You really have to thwart industrialization and not partake of the fruit to revert the social upheavals.

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And intergeneratonal pension/welfare/healthcare systems. The next generation as a whole has to pay for your retirement, whether you have your own children or not. In the past, having children was essential, to take care of you when you became old/ill. Now you can just leach off of everyone else's kids.
But I think there is something more far more important everyone overlooks, the lack of purpose. From the perspective of the average joe, whats the point? You're probably atheist/agnostic/apathetic, so there's no divine imperative to please God by filling the earth with people. History has been rewritten or erased, so you have no link to your ancestors and as such, no onus to honour them and continue their lineage, culture, traditions and customs. Nationalism, patriotism and imperialism are dead/suppressed, so there's no nation, country, empire, civilization to build and preserve with fresh blood. And you're entirely ignorant of philosophy, so you have no solid morals or ideals to propel you to greatness, and the raising good children to better the world.
Normies have no purpose. They are just waiting to die and become nothingness, and are killing time with hedonistic pleasure seeking. They have no connection to the future or past. They are selfish in the extreme, and having children is an act of selflessness.

"Society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in."

About one in twelve~fifteen. Scotland supposedly has an even higher ratio. Ireland is number one in the world for blue eyes, though. More than 80% of the population have them. The green eyed bonnies you've probably heard people talk about are a not indicative of the population.

If you have four kids, odds are one will be redheaded. But from what I've seen in my own life, it's usually the case that most children of a couple tend to have red hair, or none.

Demoralisation

The reasons for declining birthrates are overdetermined, but the main cause is women having equal rights, especially voting rights. Unfortunately we gave the right to vote to niggers, which pissed off white women to no end. They took one look at their natural inferiors having the vote and concluded, rightly, that they were being shortchanged.

So the right to vote has to be taken from minorities and women. This is of course impossible via normal democratic means.

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I'm sorry I ever doubted you, filter merchant

As a potato I'm legit surprised by this, we've got extremely liberal media here.

You can thank their extremist feminists for that, they're ruining the country.

lol happens all the time. Jim is a jew, hotwheelz now.

All the right type of people are breeding. I don't want leftists to breed.

If you still think acceptance and devotion to ideas is not genetic, you probably have not introduced yourself to genetics yet.

also high taxes. which sometimes are that high because of immigrants coming here, making children they cannot afford for, and claiming welfare.

that and boomers, depending how fucked up is your country's pension system.