Why are normies so fucking retarded to the point that they think a "mixed economy" is a thing and that we need "a...

Why are normies so fucking retarded to the point that they think a "mixed economy" is a thing and that we need "a little bit of socialism"?
Why are lolbertarians so fucking stupid that they think S█████ wanting to raise taxes makes him a socialist? Why are Americans who are into politics so fucking retarded when it comes to basic political themes around the world?

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We all know why fam. It's been said before.
Cold War propaganda, bla bla bla state repression bla bla bla Red Scare

So the NEP was a mistake?

Because humanity is a disease and has lost all hope of redemption.

Well it fucking pisses me off. Socialism has been bastardized to the point where nobody fucking understands what it is

Public Education and shit.
Its a verry god idea to give the state the authority over education right!


Any Leninist who doesnt realize that the NEP was a mistake should be shot.

Yeah.

the eternal anarkiddie strikes again

Honestly ANY economy is a mixed economy because pure capitalism is incapable of existing.

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By that logic are soc dem country's market socialist by having workers controle the means of production by proxy of the labour party.

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Anarchists are not the only ones who say that. Libertarian Marxists do too and even Wolff says it.
It's not exclusive to anarchists.

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Can there be one fucking thread where nobody argues about commie ideology and we just bitch about normies? Is it too much to ask.

Most Marxist do understand that NEP was state capitalist.

This.

It can be done if you people would stop derailing threads with that whole state capitalist meme. It has become a fucking buzzword.

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are you anarcho communist or monarchist larper

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1921/apr/21.htm

Yes, i'm a hypocrite.

Please fucking stop. Let's not begin a shitstorm. Stick to the fucking OP post.


Please resist comrade

When will you faggots ever read actual theory and not nitpick shit for your own agenda?

What group doesn't do this?

socialism is too broad of a term, simple as that
that's why you always have to add what school of thought exactly you're refering to when talking about "socialism". there are just way too many, even on one branch you have dozens of twigs.

generally regarding yourself a "socialist" says only that you somewhere stand on the side of the "lower class".

it's honestly nothing short of autistic to whine about others "misusing" the term. even the earliest forms of socialism are so different to each other it's just ridiculous claiming one of those to be "the only true socialism".
social democrats can say they're socialists, who fucking cares, it says jack shit other than them claiming to be in favor of the workers interest.

regarding the liberal/socdem "mixed economy" meme, it's the same shit. part of their ideological school of thought. whining about how wrong it is wont ever stop them from being deceiving treacherous faggots.
point out that they're not "the socialism" either, that's what you can do, and present your socialism as the better one, but "socialism" is just as vague as "leftism". don't fucking clinge to words like an autist.

mine.

No, Social democrats and liberals cannot be socialists. Socialism is extremely broad, but it is objectively not what what socedems or liberals talk about.

define socialism then

You know socialism. The closest to liberalism it can get is market socialism.

have it your way, faggot

Fucking revisionist.

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there's a reason why lenin called the NEP "state capitalism"
and why the soviet union with stalins lead advanced to socialism
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1951/economic-problems/

yet besides that, i was just taking a piss at the guy drawing an arbitrary line for socialism

There's a reason why every state based on Leninist principles failed and the USSR following Stalin's lead never developed into socialism.

funny you'd say that
they didn't fail as long as they were actually based on these principles
the failure began with revisionism
that's the point you're missing, faggot

First of all, everything is arbitrary to begin with but some standards have to be kept.
Okay then,social liberals and social democrats are socialists. You know what? Conservative liberals and propertarians are also socialists because they still think the government should handle some basic needs like the military, police, etc. Know that I think of it, fascists are super socialist because they use the government to do a lot of good shit like saving wolves. Actually, we're all socialists!!

Yeah fuck off with your b.s..

Anyways, I can explain how marksocs are socialists and especially since they came before Marxists.

But you are a revisionist

But Albania didn't develop into socialism either.

And North Korea is still going the full Stalin to this day and socialism is no where to be found.

kek
and that's how i'm done with you here, retard

albania did, like the soviet union
DPRK isn't ML but Chuche

It was considered part of the socialist movement even back then. That isn't even my argument either you loser.

wait, I also never even said it was "truer" socialism.

Do you have a source for that?

Not explicitly, but the actual methods by which it's run haven't changed since it was established.

pants on head retarded meme