What makes a good hero? What attributes would you give to call someone truly...

Christopher Harris
Christopher Harris

What makes a good hero?
What attributes would you give to call someone truly heroic?

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Jace Wright
Jace Wright

I would start with a strong, passionate, unshakable sense of right and wrong for a normal hero, if they didnt care or were unsure how would it make sense for them to run around doing heroics?

Alexander Miller
Alexander Miller

That would be an excellent start for a villain. It's the ones who are incapable of self-doubt you have to watch out for.
I think empathy is the real motivation of a hero.

Carson Torres
Carson Torres

Interesting that that trait would be applicable to both heroes and villains. An unmoving sense of right and wrong can be seen as a value or a flaw depending

Robert Rivera
Robert Rivera

A hero takes it on the chin and keeps going. Wolverine, Rocky, basically any character ever written by Frank Miller. A hero hangs in there when it all seems hopeless and useless to continue. A hero goes their own way and doesn't care about tradition, popular opinion or how many stand with him. A hero does the right thing even if it's for the wrong reason, respects the weak and stands up to the strong.

Kayden Hughes
Kayden Hughes

heroes that do corrupt and shrewd things for the greater good are more badass than the boring stereotype moralfag

Mason Harris
Mason Harris

So a hero is like a wall to you? The unmovable object standing in the way of villains or injustice. Or am I misunderstanding?
How so?

Jose Thomas
Jose Thomas

Let me put it to you like this. Who would keep fighting until the last drop of blood, the hero motivated by his strong sense of ethics or duty, the anti-hero driven by rage and hate and revenge, or the hero trying to stop someone from being hurt?
The greatest feats of the greatest heroes, the ones where they exceeded their theoretical limits, or went out in a blaze of glory, are always the ones where they are desperate to save others. Empathy, not morality, makes heroes.

Lincoln Phillips
Lincoln Phillips

One who would selflessly sacrifice their life in order to save others, no matter how insignificant those others might be. Think of someone who would, without thought, jump in front of a bullet to save an old lady, even if she is a plain old lady, while the hero is a strong alpha who could easily save the planet. Or maybe one where a hero doesn't have his mask on, but he still saves someone who is in danger even if it means that people will learn his secret identity(inb4 Man of Steel doesn't save his father). I love the scene in Raimi's Spirderman 2, where Spiderman instead of fighting Doc Ock, he instead goes and tries to stop the speeding train, even if, we the audience, can see that it's hurting him and that he could die trying to save those random people. In the end he manages to save them, but he is exhausted and could easily get killed by Doc Ock now.

Kayden Lee
Kayden Lee

I know this is going to sound incredibly cliche, but a hero in my mind is usually the guy who does the right thing.

Now bear with me here. A hero doesn't need to inspire hope wherever they walk. A hero doesn't need to strike fear into the hearts of villains. They just simply need to step up to the plate when no one else will, to help their fellow man instead of looking on as a bystander. It takes a certain level of determination, compassion, courageousness and self-sacrifice in order to do what they do whether it be risking their lives to save a hostage or giving comfort in an emotional time of need.

A hero doesn't ask "Should I lend a hand?" They ask "How can I lend a hand?" That small difference is what ultimately defines a hero at the end of the day imo.

Andrew Walker
Andrew Walker

A hero that is willing to sacrifice anything to save others.

Including their morals.

Andrew Murphy
Andrew Murphy

I want edgelords to leave.

Daniel Bailey
Daniel Bailey

Beautiful.

Charles Lee
Charles Lee

edgelords
If Batman had killed the Joker people would stop being killed by the joker…..

Chase Cruz
Chase Cruz

The usual problem I see is that should be a stopping point. A "it time to stop," and let someone else take the mantle, but it doesn't, it always goes beyond until their reflection mirrors of those he used to fight. That should be his second or third highest sacrifice he would have to make.

Robert Stewart
Robert Stewart

They try to help
-Even with the small things, just because they can take on Galactus doesn't mean they won't stop for a little girl getting lost in the crowd
2: Even if they're completely unlikely to change the outcome, knowing just that someone should try to do something
Mumen Rider is the best hero I know of

Chase Powell
Chase Powell

Mumen Rider falls into the martyr category, deviating from a true hero. It's cool if done right but he's not a hero in my book. Call it inspiring if you will but he's useless in the scheme of things. If he wanted to help, maybe he should have done the things he could. Leave Genos to try and stall the guy while he evacuates the humans.
Come to think about it, the whole reason Genos lost that fight was because nobody was helping people evacuate and he had to sacrifice his metallic hide for a girl.

Owen Perry
Owen Perry

Call it inspiring if you will but he's useless in the scheme of things.
Without him distracting, Saitama wouldn't have made it in time. And by the time he shows up, trying to fight Sea King is literally the only thing he can do.
Come to think about it, the whole reason Genos lost that fight was because nobody was helping people evacuate and he had to sacrifice his metallic hide for a girl.
It's consistently shown that most of the heroes in OPM are pretty shitty people.

Brandon Thompson
Brandon Thompson

What? It's not that they're shitty people. It's that the threats are too much for them. Are you well? Do you have brain damage?

Liam Jenkins
Liam Jenkins

I think Genos would have distracted the sea king some more honestly. Sure, he was a pile of scrap at that point but that wouldn't have stopped him.
Heroes are stuck with the idea that heroism is defined by the ability to 'punch evil in the face'. To try and make an analogy (it might come off wrong), imagine a standard jrpg party. Is each member's usefulness only shown by how much damage they can do? The healers, although their job is much less flashy than say, the fighters or the mages, are equally useful.
What I'm getting at is that Mumen Rider has a way with words and can inspire people. His role shouldn't have been fighting or stalling but evacuating everyone with leadership.
But then again my analogy was shit and I'm overthinking a parody anime.

Ryder Reyes
Ryder Reyes

I'm pretty sure Mumen is shown earlier in the series doing small stuff like the helping people out and carrying bags for old ladies. He does what he can where ever he can.
"The Crawler" from MHA might be your style though. When the series starts he literally only uses his power for returning lost items and stuff. He says he "does what's within his power" until he gets thrown into some real shit, and starts being an actual superhero despite having a pretty shitty power.

Christopher Cook
Christopher Cook

In the mango, quite a bit of the heroes are shown to be opportunistic jobbers. Tiger tank top and black tank top for example

Andrew Green
Andrew Green

Are you well? Do you have brain damage?
Here we go, typical projection and deflection…

Zachary Young
Zachary Young

(you)

Wyatt Bennett
Wyatt Bennett

2 examples out of numerous other heroes who still do their jobs.

Connor Myers
Connor Myers

I'm saying the exact opposite you retard. Heroes don't have to beat the bad guys to be heroes. Heroes must protect the civilians the best way they can, even if that means they DON'T take active participation in a fight.

Asher White
Asher White

"What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski? Is it being prepared to do the right thing? Whatever the cost? Isn’t that that makes a man?"

Julian Martin
Julian Martin

Righteously well said user. Couldn't put it better myself.

Jose Richardson
Jose Richardson

That depends which definition of hero/heroic you want to use. The classical definition of a hero is a person capable of superhuman feats, which they use to defeat threats and overcome obstacles that no normal person could ever hope to, which earns them fame and glory. The more modern definition of a hero is someone who possesses a degree of empathy for others that is magnitudes above what is considered normal, and sacrifices their own safety and happiness for that of those around them. The Disney movie Hercules does a decent job of showing the difference between these two definitions of 'hero'.

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And then there are superheroes, such as Superman, who are a combination of both definitions, and usually champion various virtues depending on the individual character.

Wyatt Lopez
Wyatt Lopez

Why are you namefagging?

Anthony Nguyen
Anthony Nguyen

Devotion to a sense of justice that borders on psychotic obsession.
Willingness to face endless pain, torment, and fear.
The ability to succeed in stopping wrong-doing whether it be through strength, intelligence, or sheer force of will.
Doing all of that because no matter how many people may be flawed or even downright shitty, you know there will always be souls worth protecting.

Zachary Lee
Zachary Lee

I actually have a similar question. Which is a worse villain: One whose motivations and goals are inconsistent or one whose motivations and goals are arguably more heroic than the supposed hero?

Adrian Perry
Adrian Perry

An inconsistent villain is a terribly written villain. A villain that almost makes you side with them is a complex villain. Which makes them the better pick.

Parker Ortiz
Parker Ortiz

Real-life monsters are usually self-contradictory and mentally ill. For fictional characters, if your motivations and goals are noble then resorting to inhuman acts to accomplish them is still inconsistent.

The best villains are always hypocrites.

Gavin Barnes
Gavin Barnes

Muh ebin valentine me me Xd

Elijah Lee
Elijah Lee

You just described Batman.

While he's a decent enough Hero, Superman is an overall better hero, strictly because he refuses to believe every person is shitty. Hell, he is even willing to give Lex Luthor the benefit of doubt.

Benjamin Gutierrez
Benjamin Gutierrez

Mumen Rider falls into the martyr category, deviating from a true hero. It's cool if done right but he's not a hero in my book. Call it inspiring if you will but he's useless in the scheme of things. If he wanted to help, maybe he should have done the things he could. Leave Genos to try and stall the guy while he evacuates the humans.
Come to think about it, the whole reason Genos lost that fight was because nobody was helping people evacuate and he had to sacrifice his metallic hide for a girl.

Heroes don't have to beat the bad guys to be heroes.

(you)

Cooper Nelson
Cooper Nelson

superman kills general zod

Aaron Hall
Aaron Hall

It's either he killed him or he killed the group of people that Zod was trying to kill.

Zod was a shitty person, whereas those people were likely not.

Austin Jackson
Austin Jackson

Batman doesn't believe every person is shitty.

Benjamin Lewis
Benjamin Lewis

What makes a good hero?
A fool that thinks he can makes a difference.

Xavier White
Xavier White

What presses Spider-Man's hero button? Others in danger.

Lincoln Sullivan
Lincoln Sullivan

What pushes Batman's button? Others in danger.

Parker Turner
Parker Turner

Would Superman have literally fought Doomsday until his heart stopped from exhaustion if he hadn't been in the middle of Metropolis, trying to save the city?
The heroes' greatest feats, on a personal level, regardless of their actual power level, are always in the defence of others.

Elijah Richardson
Elijah Richardson

if they didnt care or were unsure how would it make sense for them to run around doing heroics?

Yeah,it would, Countless human beings go through this every single day. Doubt doesn't automatically stop you from doing something. Without doubt we couldn't actually make discussions and therefore wouldn't have free will. We would essentially just be robots following our programming without a thought.

Blake Williams
Blake Williams

referencing zod from the movie
not zod from the comics
get out you fucking faggot

Oliver Williams
Oliver Williams

Best answer in the thread.

Jaxon Johnson
Jaxon Johnson

If you're going based on the comics, main verse Zod is alive and kicking.

Brody Adams
Brody Adams

gayest thread on all of Holla Forums

Aaron Johnson
Aaron Johnson

idiot

Matthew Green
Matthew Green

You are aware that the Gold, Silver, and Bronze age universes are all dead or a different universe now, right?

Current continuity Zod is alive and well.

Lincoln Jackson
Lincoln Jackson

you're argument is presently that superman "refuses to believe every person is shitty," omitting the fact that superman sentenced 3 people to death and served the execution himself because zod is alive in the current continuity .

Jaxson Rivera
Jaxson Rivera

I should have stated that Superman trusts almost immediately, until that person betrays that trust.

Nolan Martin
Nolan Martin

you shouldnt have brought a normal fag brain to an autism match

Jacob Jackson
Jacob Jackson

Found the aspiring villain.

Cooper Brooks
Cooper Brooks

If given the choice between doing the wrong thing to benefit themselves, or the right thing to great harm to themselves, a hero chooses the latter. Of course there's cost-benefit analysis involved and all, but in general a hero is willing to do right even if it kills them.
Heroes must also have virtues. They don't have to all be the same (Batman's virtue is Justice, Superman's virtue is hope, yadda yadda) but they need to hold some good above all others and strive for that good.

Important to note that a hero is not always a good man. The Punisher is a hero, but he's not a good man. He does bad things, but he is willing to risk his life to do what is right, and he holds his virtue (retribution) above all others as he strives to make the world better, even when he knows he can't.

Dominic Nguyen
Dominic Nguyen

To kinda compliment your statement, I'll paraphrase a certain playwright and comedian that was once questioned about this:
"A hero is not he who feels no fear and is invincible. A person like that cannot feel fear. A hero is someone who, despite being defficient, faces the problem. A hero is he who can die and lose. A man with no fear cannot be a hero"

Julian Lee
Julian Lee

or is invincible*

Logan Price
Logan Price

i fucking love the expressions on this, whos the artist?

Jonathan Lopez
Jonathan Lopez

Norm Breyfogle. Great artist, one of the really underrated ones IMO. He can't find work now.
According to him, he's blacklisted. He said there was a change in management at DC, and after he had about ten proposals shot down, he realised he wasn't wanted.

Sebastian Young
Sebastian Young

And to think, he actually stops to consider it.

Elijah Cook
Elijah Cook

here's your (you) and your obligatory edgy reaction image. Make good use of them, as you probably won't get another in this thread.

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