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Lesbian jokes aside, who does Holla Forums think to be the better character in terms of development and Avatar role fulfillment?

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Aang. This is no contest. Korra was a whiny entitled cunt who blamed everyone but herself for everything.

Aang. He had a solid maturation throughout the series, and forced himself to commit to a fight he himself had decided he wasn't ready for at the end

Korra wasn't too bad to be honest, but her character development reset every season and she was overshadowed by her supporting cast (episodes like The Sting show that Mako & Asami can support their own story just fine. Hell, just make the Mako & Asami show)

honorable mention to Avatar Wan (nigga done stole fire)

I also prefer Aang's arc, but let's not pretend he isn't a whiny fuck with an extreme attention deficit.

Wan? Dude, Wan is bloody terrible.

Fuck both Korra and Wan.

Who the fuck is that in the first image?

His circumstances were also a lot worse and he was a confused 12 year old from an era that ended 100 years ago in bloody conflict.

Korra was a hyper-competent young woman who had everyone bending (hue) over backwards to please her and win her love. Several of her villains just outright destroyed themselves without her having to do much.

sokka is the best avatar, he is so damn good that they didnt show any of his descendants on the korra cartoon, because they would steal the show.

Aang no doubt, what even is the point of asking that?

Aang, and it's not even close.

I watched the first season of Korra and I only hung with it that long because I loved the first series. But where ATLA had an ensemble of well-defined characters with good hooks, motivations and conflicts, Korra is just a mess of a character. Clearly they want her to be headstrong and brash and kind of a bitch at first but it's extremely important that you like her so they vacillate a lot; even when she kind of jerks Mako and Bolin around in that dumb love triangle episode they pussyfoot away from having their heroine ever do anything to unlikeable. As a result she becomes a cypher, a blank with HERO written on the front instead of a character. With Aang you had some poignancy that he was just a kid who wanted to paraglide and hang with his buffalo and not deal with all this hero shit; Korra's main conflict is she's not as powerful as she wants to be and it's kinda fuckin boring.

She got some high end tittays tho so it balances out.

You lucky bastard, but to answer your question someone who is only good for porn. Also OP just wants a LoK thread, but is afraid to start one since everything about it has already been said.

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Outside of Season 3 he hardly "whined" as opposed to being upset about things like one of the remnants from his old life getting kidnapped. Even then, when he did actions like hiding the news of what happened to Katara and Sokka's father he was surely shown as being at least objectionable for it. While Korra does lovely things like threaten a judge, cheat with Mako, conspire with Zuko's grandson to drag other countries into a civil war, keep some portale open despite finding out how humans lived in terror of spirits, and get indignant at getting called out for the spirit messes all while being either excused for it or brushed off.


Korra is an atrocious affirmative action baby early on. From her design (brown), to her characterization (whorish, thuggish), to the events she plays a key role in (makes a nuisance of herself in Lin Bei-Fong's city but it turns out Lin's just a scorned woman). Korra even starting with most elements mastered (but not wind for a token miss) is a warning sign.

Brown Korra a shit.
A SHIT
Aang wins by a landslide. Learns to master all the elements patiently, tends to avoid conflict instead of inciting it and rushing head on, develops his own techniques, overcomes his own insecurities, learns that he cannot let go of this world because he cares about the people he loves too much, figures out a way to win even when all odds are against him.
Honestly, the only good thing to come out of LoK is this trailer and porn.

Don't get me started on how poorly they handled spirituality in that show.


I feel they could make it work if they make her learn a lesson and become a better person. It seemed like her character growth was meant to be reverse of Aang. Where Aang is a pacifist that has to learn how to deal with violence Korra is a violent persont that has to learn how to deal with things peacefully.

Also, I hate how they shit on the President of Republic City even though he's right and one of the few rational characters on the show along with Lin Bei Fong.

Did you really had to make a thread over this? Seriously, how the fuck is this even a question?

What is your argument, faggot?

This.

ER is cancer.

Pick one.

Korra is shit. Shit in every way, and everything she did is shit.

Start with her development. The bitch can bend all 3 elements when she's a goddamn toddler, whereas it takes other Avatar's months and years to master even a single bending discipline. But Korra is just super good so she can bend anything she wants! Except air of course, air is too hard for Korra, she fails the training all the time. But then when she is fighting Amon's lackeys, suddenly she finds out she can airbend! And how does she react? Just a simple "I can airbend? I can airbend!" and then she never trains again and is using advanced airbending techniques like she was a fucking nomad by birth.

Then we go on to her decisions. All of them are shit.
First season she decides to fight the equalists. Funny that she ends up fighting people saying "Benders are being massive cunts" but being a massive cunt and attacking a politician who upset her.
Second season she decides to open the spirit portals. Worst decision ever, Aang's arc showed us spirits like haybi (is that how you spell that?) and Koh, which Korra lets loose on the world. She decides that Wan (a shit character and a terrible plot device though he may be) was wrong about spirits despite living with them for most of his life, and severs her connections with her past lives, literally being the most failed Avatar of any Avatar ever. We could go further and further into how Korra's arc fucks up the concept of spirits, such as when it turns out the spirit world is ever changing depending on the Avatar's feefees and how spirits are now wacky and zany instead of personifications of concepts and basically demons, but the point is that Korra had the worst idea ever period.
Third season, turns out everyone gets new bending for no reason because harmonic convergence despite the fact that this isn't how spirits work and isn't how bending works, even within the bullshit explanation they provided in Season 2 they retcon it not a fucking season later. So she fights some fags who are anarchists and gay and have no real motivation and can bend in ways nobody should be able to, overall it sucks ass but Korra doesn't really decide anything so who gives a fuck.
Fourth Season she destroys the Earth Kingdom because she tries her hand at playing Miss "Democracy is the only way" and I stopped watching because Korra is an insufferable cunt. But she lesbians so hahahaha.

Fuck Korra.

LoK bounced between the extremes of "Korra is just a political figure without a spiritual role" and "spiritz spirit spireets korra can is now some sag."


That requires a character who isn't a prog revenge fantasy.


You're not allowed to critique Korra without either turning out to be a villain, being otherwise discredited, or hopping aboard the Korra train.

That's probably true. Sokka turned out to be a great character despite his weak start.
He would probably have hundreds of descendants due to his pussy-bending powers. He had 6 girls fawning over him over the course of 3 seasons.

The only good thing about Korra is that there is some good porn of her.

It's funny that every time feminists try to make a strong independent female character said character always ends up as fap material, and nothing more.

I can only think of 3, who were the others?

sorry, i do preger aang over korra and i know it's pretty obvious who's better, i just wanted a proper breakdown of the entire thing.


I'm not a korrafag, just a man in need of information

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Aang, no contest.


Why is he cancer?


The power of boners is stronger than any political ideology.


It basically boils down to Aang being an actual character who is likeable and works hard to get shit done in spite of his mistakes as opposed to Korra who is a whiny, self-centered bitch who can bend three elements right off the bat and never has to deal with the consequences of her numerable and wholly terrible actions.

It was actually five. Water princess, Suki, Ty Lee were the main three. Toph also had hots for him and there was a random girl in one episode of season one or two.

All the Korra torture porn is just punishment for how shit the show was.

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Tenzin but none of the characters have their development stuck at a certain point and never progress forward and some, especially Mako, get worse every episode until they're complete fucking garbage.
Exception is Asami, who had no character at all and was a failure of creativity when Bryke took away her Equalist ties

She really did.

Oops
*none of the character have development and are stuck

Well put user.

How do you feel about the theory that the creators basically admit to retconning what the avatar is?

It was a retcon. The Avatar already had a backstory of being the world's spirit. Not to mention how it shoehorns a dualistic Near Eastern rivalry into a Far Eastern setting.

best part about that is, they fucked it up. Raava and Vaatu are obviously based on Yin and Yang, two sides of the same coin, with neither being good or evil and instead, they must balance each other out. But the creators are such astonishing hacks, they turn that deep philosophical idea and turn it into obliquity good vs evil shit, just like any shallow libtard douche who claims to be Buddhist for street cred or some shit.

bonus points, white is suppose to represent masculinity and black is suppose to represent femininity, way to fuck up again ya douche canoes.

What? Are you suggesting two feminist allies to make the embodiment of darkness a GIRL?

I mean, every major villain in LoK is either unabashedly male or a butch woman.

They also fucked it up the original show with the koi fish spirits. The things that now make no sense with Raava and Vaatu being retconned in.

Hei-Bai, or "black-white" in chinese

Well before Korra was a thing I thought the koi fish were done well.

Comparatively yes but the koi fish were wrong in that the wrong fish represented the moon.

Korra no contest. Aang is a scrawny little man, Korra is thicc.

Aang

Appearance is not character development.

I got into last airbender really late when it was over on tv. So yes like everyone is saying: Aang's story arc was much more interesting. What kept me watching was too wonder how he was gonna fight the emperor since he's a glorified Buddhist monk.

You gay, brah?

Op didn't mention character

You're the faggot here.

You serious?

lol u gay nigga

We say nigger here.

ooh, edgy

Aang actually had character development. Korra didn't learn jack shit.

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Stop talking like a Nigger.

I became disgusted with Korra since the very first episode. Aang had numerous episodes of great character development. My favorite ones are the ones were he was terrified going into avatar state. He didn't want to hurt the people he loved. He even abandoned complete control over avatar state to save Katara.

Korra goes into avatar state to win a air bending race.

Complete bullshit.

Despite how bad the plot was, I still watched ever single episode of Korra. So I guess it's not completely shit.

Damn son, you can take a lot more than I can.

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Aang, by far. He actually grew as a character throughout the series.
Korra is only good for porn.

Its funny how Toph as a boy doesn't look that different from regular Toph.

That trailer wasn't anything special. So, just porn.

I wanted to like Korra because I thought the idea of her character was interesting- an overly confident, quick to violence fish out of water who would learn maturity through her interactions in the city and her avatar training. If only the execution were as good as the premise.

Wow…Female Sokka is stacked.

ZUKO A CUTE

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All of you morons, >>>/out/ .

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I feel… conflicted.

Aang.
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But I like to imagine they could've done something really interesting with Korra, especially when she lost all her powers except for air bending during her fight with Amon. They could've made her work to gain back her three lost elements, elements that she was just brute forcing into working, and improve her spiritual connection, which was totally how I thought it was going to go, but not a second later, poof! "Ah gee, here's your power back, kiddo." What a fucking waste.

Your opinions are shit and so are you.

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of course the only one who cant bend has the biggest tits

Korra never had a chance in hell of not sucking because she was literally created as a result of Bryke listening to teenage girls expound on what they'd like to see in a heroine. She doesn't have any character to speak of, besides "angry bitch" at times.

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Haha holy shit this explains so much.

Like I said, Korra is an affirmative action baby. Her mere pitch (a mud Avatar who's a stronk womyn) shows this. Since there isn't any other examples of two Avatars being so closely related it's apparent they contrived a scenario to force her in.

That sounds like an interesting idea

aang didn't develop at all, he was still an immature kid by the end of the show, and he didn't have to compromise his no kill belief due to turtle ex machina, plus he also gets to have his kid crush love him back for no reason

I thought the reason why they didn't go down that path was it sounded like it would be repeating what TLA did with Aang having to learn the 3 elements.

Can I please get you started on that instead, user-kun? '3'

tfw you have the post drinking hornies and are doodling Korra lewds but your tablet broke

Well, a lot of what I have to say was covered by previous threads but basically, they turned Eastern mythology based show into a good vs evil story instead of balance. It has a very skewed view of nature especially when it comes to the stuff with Wan. Because nature is pure and good and man is evil despite the humans hunting for survival but Wan stops them. That pisses me off so much. It's such a shallow view of nature that I don't think the creators have been out in the woods before. If I go further then I'll start rambling.

Maybe I can be your Korra tonight user~

Go on…..

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That female Sokka is giving me the vapors.

Why is he so perfect, Holla Forums?

Because Grandfathers are top tier.

He was a side character for Zuko and knew it. He didn't do what Tenzin did and make the audience watch too many episodes including his daddy issues while they struggle to keep Aang's posse.

But Iroh is an uncle.

Oh right. Whatever my statement is still true.

It always bugged me that he looked so much older than his brother.

Sure
Wut

Iroh had a hard life.

I'M

IZ

A MISTAKE!

YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT!!!

Reported.

*didn't mean to do the top one, I'm a faggot

Male Sokka had huge balls.

My biggest gripe with Korra was that TLA made a point to show that the villains were somewhat sympathetic and at least understandable, but TLOK made them just be crazy without a clear motivation. Even the guy who ordered Katara's village burned and her mother killed was more sympathetic than Zaheer, who is basically just a mystery regarding his past and his intentions. They even have a bit where he's about to explain his worldview and Korra tells him she doesn't care.

Fair enough.

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God, that was so stupid, as was most of that "Korra confronts Zaheer in the spirit world" episode.

This, even Admiral Zhao had understandable motivations.

I forgot, what were his motivations? To capture the spirits of the moon and ocean to give them as a gift to the Fire Lord?

He wanted to break the stalemate against the Northern Water Tribe by killing the moon spirit and by extension the moon, crippling the water benders abilities.
He learned this information at Wong Shi Tong's library, making him one of the only humans to access the spirit library until the Gaang showed up.

Except she does sit down to listen to him. But his actions throughout the show display that's he's just insane.

youtube.com/watch?v=mKn_gtcizh0

Aang hands down. Korra's successes aren't as fullfilling. simple as that.


That dude's even worse, bryke playing you with that false nostaliga dude


This.
Amon & Zaheer had the potential to be a greater character than the sum of their parts imo but then they get completely shafted

you are part of the problem

Fingers crossed Voltron LD isn't as shit

Amon was a supervillain leading a mob out for bender blood. Putting aside how there wasn't any signs of tension between benders and non-benders to awaken auch a rampage in TLA, his backstory was dumped at the end by a side character (daddy issues).

Unalaq didn't have a consistent characterization. Bouncing from some Northern Water Tribe Supremacist Luddite to some cultist of a dark god. Even the angle he was a spirit worshipper doesn't work since it doesn't address what made him figure helping Vaatu was a dandy idea.

Zaheer was muh chaos with a weak backstory surronded by gimmicky goons. Season 4 tried to make him some mentor for Korra but of course it flopped.

Kuvira was a forced villain. They obviously intended her to be some "dark mirrior" of Korra doubling as a post-WW2 Nationalist (if not just Hitler) analogue. Problem here is that it was established the Earth Kingdom royal family was a mess with the prince being a spoiled brat. The season failed to establish what made Kuvira such a danger she had to be stopped before there was talk of unseen concentration camps, let alone the giant robot. She dumps her backstory to Korra in a cheap therapy session, surrenders despite having our heroes right ehere she wants them, and gets led off to jail with Suyin telling her to stay forever.

None worked.

You know…what if there was a soldier who was loyal (some say devotedly loyal) to Kuvira and when he found out she surrendered without a fight, he felt betrayed and formed his own Earth Empire group…sort of like an Earthbender Big Boss?

Kuvira did nothing wrong. She was by far my favourite character in this mess.

To be honest, I don't get why everyone was as triggered as they were by kora, that being said I didn't watch every episode.
But yeah, Aang's better.

Allow me to be a little contrarian. Both are more or less the same.

However, Aang had better teammates. Sokha, katara, Toph had different ideas on what to do in. Aang managed to listen to his them well. This made his character felt more developed as he learned to handled situations in different episodes by acting on advice given by different teammates or mentors and learned from them. He is a bland character being made more interesting by more interesting characters.

Katara is boring. Her friends are boring. Her mentors are boring. A bland character surrounded by bland characters producing bland storylines and felt no development.

The one thing I liked about Kuvira was her fighting style. It relies on precision while most Avatar villains rely on raw power.

*Korra
ftfy

thank you.

The end is cancer, but he certainly grew more than Korra, If nothing else, his moral quandaries were certainly more interesting than Korra.

I digged how she was a skilled bender instead of a spiritbender (Amon), vessel of a dark god (Unalaq), or wannabe who lucked into airbending (Zaheer).

What??? He was only a bloodbender

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Korra couldn't develop because the writers were terrified to have their stronk independent womyn of color ever actually be wrong about anything. Even though she's a pigheaded braggart who doesn't seem to understand anything about spirituality or really be concerned about helping people, the whole world bends over backwards to let her play hero without actually having to learn anything or change at all.

It's like somebody made the whole Korra/Republic City setting with that kind of arc in mind aspects like Pro-Bending and Equalists make sense in light of technological progress and diminished spirituality, and having a decidedly unenlightened religious leader plays into that but then some idiots who had no idea what they were doing came in and actually wrote the plot. The premise for the first episode of Korra is great but it's all fucking downhill from there.

Why was the thread about the comics deleted?

Would fuck

You have autism

Even in porn ATLAB is way better since the series was fleshed so well porn artists tend to make better porn material out of it. With Korra It's either lesbian or forced stuff.

The janitors weren't happy that OP didn't story time the comic.

I've noticed the janitors have been taking their jobs extra seriously lately.

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They're probably just a irritated by the summer fags as the rest of us

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I am sickened and saddened.

your welcome.


Maybe you can research it with some family documents?


I thought it was his voice double Baldwin that voiced Iroh in Korra?

Korra is a lesbie?!?

Technically she would be more like a bisexual.

The catch-all term is "faggot"

This. Writers are too chickenshit when it comes to female characters, they just cannot let anything bad happen to them. However, something bad happening to a character is what makes them interesting; don't misunderstand me, I don't want torture porn, but what I mean is that a character has to earn their victory by overcoming the obstacles.

Take for example Luke Skywalker, when the first movie begins he is just a farmboy, the only special skill he has is that he is a talented pilot. For everything else he needs to rely on others, he cannot use any force powers, he doesn't know how be tough in a bar, doesn't know how to negotiate with a smuggler, is a poor shot with the blaster and has no combat experience. But that's a good thing, because he has friends so they can complete each other, and even in the end the only reason he makes it to the end of the trench is because Han show down the last Tie Fighter.

I could find more examples where a character first has to get dragged through the mud before they can earn their victory. I think the only reason why Ellen Ripley turned out such a good character was because all the roles were written before the sex of any character was known.


Or degenerate. Or sodomite if you want to be old-school.

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They did have those parts where she lost her bending and the time she got put in a wheelchair. The problem wasn't that nothing bad ever happened to her, it's that she doesn't earn her recovery or learn anything from the experience. Every time she fucks up everyone just goes "oh that's ok".

She doesn't have a character arc where she learns how to overcome her problems like Luke does, she just wins in the end because she's supposed to despite being a jackass. It's extremely frustrating because the premise for book one is perfectly set up to tell a very satisfying story even with the characters all being the same at the start. How do you fuck up a villain that's a bloodbender and not have any cool bloodbending fights?

What about them? She got kicked into a wheelchair by a villain with a weak backstory and motive (MUH CHAOS) who later got shoved in as some forced mentor, Asami got shoehorned in, Toph got shoved in for fanservice (while ruining her), and most importantly of all she doesn't become humbled by her situation then transform how she handles issues. She still charges into battle with Kuvira and fail to provide an alternative to the current mess.

I said no torture porn. There was nothing gained from putting Korra in a wheelchair, she went emo for a couple of episodes and was back to bitch afterwards. Seeing a character be down is fun if we get to see them lift themself up again and rise beyond what they were before. In Korra's case there was no improvement.

It was weird seeing people worship those seasons. I tried to feel the emotion they were describing but I never could. I was hoping for something like ATLA like they did with Zuko. His story was so amazing to me.

Having Zuko and Aang be dual protagonists was the real genius of ATLA. You always knew that the Gaang was going to succeed in the end, but you didn't know where Zuko was headed. I know his relapse at the end of S2 was due to corporate meddling, but it added a layer of uncertainty to his arc that kept the viewer guessing.

Agreed

I didn't know that his relapse was corporate meddling, but I think it actually made his arc better. In S1 Zuko is desperately chasing the Avatar who keeps slipping out of his grasp, usual cartoon stuff.

Then at the beginning of S2 his one and only chance of redemption is taken away because he is no longer an outcast, he is a public enemy. Zuko never really abandoned his chase for the Avatar, he simply made peace with the fact that he can never get his old life back, even if he did capture the Avatar. He is like a drug addict who kicked his addiction not because he wanted to be clean, but simply because he could no longer get his fix.

But when Azula comes back and offers him redemption he relapses exactly because he never was really clean. He had made peace with the fact that capturing the Avatar would be pointless, but now all of the sudden capturing the Avatar had a purpose again. Only later does he really repent, after he had gotten his honour back he abandons it out of his own free will and not because circumstances force him to. This is the time when Zuko makes an actual choice, and it makes his redemption so much more stronger than when he settled down in S2.

So the comic came out today, does anyone have a torrent so we can story time?
Also this: archive.is/oo2Gf proves that suicide is painless.

I've gone through a lot of painful storytimes. This is one I never wanna put myself through.

oh no

Archive link is archiving a non-existent page, is this some kind of joke?

The funny thing is that the writers have backed themselves into a corner. Korra and Asami will never have drama between them and will be huge mary sue's, meanwhile the Bolin and Mako are unlikable. Besides Andrew Dobson and people like him I don't think this comic has much of an audience.

No, the Vice article exists. They just supress the use of archive (and other html scrapers) on their site.

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No, for some reason it didn't want to archive this.
Not even archive.is wants this saved on their servers but hey, now it works.
archive.is/RvU2w

It's not made for anyone but them and their autistic fanbase that thinks they shit gold (and they usually overlap), Bryan and Mike are only doing this, really, to pull a George Lucas and fuck with the fanbase by raping and killing Avatar and then defiling its corpse with Korra. They're just so fucking bitter than Aaron did their fucking anime wannabe show better than they ever fucking could.

I don't understand. Aaron who? and what show did he do better?

I've talked with someone who liked korra and liked korra more than aang, for them it boiled down to korra struggling and getting her ass handed to her and aang basically always winning (minus the time he surrendered and the time azula shot him in the back).

korras 'struggle' has superficial appeal but it's just torture porn it's not like she ever learns or grows or figures out some technique (minus season 2s magic blue korra out of fucking nowhere). My biggest gripe with korra isn't who was the better hero or heroic character ( I mean zuko is practically the real hero of the last airbender he struggles and grows and there's more depth to his character than there is to aangs) but with who's likeable, the krew is abominable compared to the gaang. Cuckoldry and backstabbing does not a happy group of friends make, I still bust a gut laughing when in season 1 after bolin catches mako and korra mako tries to chide bolin by saying he warned him about korra, warned him how? "Don't try to date her bro I'll be totally all over that and it's basically your fault for trying" and mako's not even some don juan he's just retarded and goes with the flow. Fuck the entire krew and fuck bryke for writing such miserable unlikable people even the secondary characters are all shitty people.

But that's because she does retarded actions. Aang never has his ass handed to him allot BECAUSE HE KNOWS WHEN TO RUN.

Most of the show he EXISTS in a perpetual state of ass handage! The world is fucked and he has to fix it. He's always on the run or in danger.

Korra, on the other hand, has bountiful resources and so many advantages, that she only ever gets her ass handed to her because shes a moron.

So I guess I understand why that appeals to the millennial crowd.

Aaron Ehasz, the head writer for ATLA. Basically he was the person responsible for the insanely tight writing that made the show so good. He also stopped Bryke from doing all sorts of stupid shit. The most famous case was with Toph, who was originally supposed to be a boy that would cause a love triangle between Aang, Katara and himself. But what should be even more noteworthy is that he's basically 100% responsible for both Zuko and Iroh's characters. You can read more about it here archive.is/jfFAt

Aang struggles because he's a 12 year old and he has a murderous empire trying to chase him down. Korra struggles because she's a moronic fuckup who never learns her lesson and has to have everyone else tell her how to stop being a fuck up, and sometimes things just work themselves out and she doesn't have to do anything.

I thought
was just trolling.

To shit on Korra.
Which I'm happy to do, tbh.

Okay I will nearly agree with this except for the one time he wasn't patient. Season 1 Episode 16, The Deserter. The episode where Aang meets Jiang and immediately without patience wants to learn firebending believing it to be his only chance to do so.

Now I merely correcting the statement not as a jab at Aang, not this episode was beautiful to teach us the dangers of rushing into something no matter the reason. Korra NEVER had a moment like this. She just didn't, she punched her way through conflicts presented to her. She's as boring as Superman. (Unless Supes is fighting someone he doesn't have to take it easy on a la Darkseid.)

Um, what show were they watching? Aang at times would get these small victories, but he would still lose in some way. The Library when Appa is stolen from him and the subsequent episodes. Aang tries so hard to cope with this and instead fires off with all of his emotions.

The episode where they're being chased by Azula, that's a draw and only a small victory if you count it for them leaving alive. Not everything was about Aang though. IT was about the cast in general. Sure Aang is an intrinsic part of the cast being the main character, but the journey isn't solely about him.

Korra tried to emulate the same thing and it didn't work that well because it tried to put to much emphasis on her and not enough of the rest of the cast (from what I experienced.)

ATLA is like a Super Sentai series that has it's focus split between the whole team and tells a story for each member whilst solving its over arching story.

LoK is a red-centric Sentai series. One that tricks you into believing the team is going to get as much development as red, only to stiff them when it matters.

Kind of, she rushes into everything without thinking it through. But unlike Aang, who realizes the consequences of doing that and see that he hurts people, Korra never had that. She always put the blame on other people, or someone tries going like "Nononon Korra, it's not your fault. You're perfect."

Superman can be interesting if he has a writer who understands his character.

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Some fuckwits say Season 3 is better, but I'd say that's the most APT example of "Korra gets her way because fuck you"

So she opened up a portal to the land of the dead essentially, and it starts killing the city, and she gets kicked out RIGHTFULLY, but whatevs now I have an awesome traveling HQ!
And for no reason at all, air-benders are granted power. Despite establishing just how it doesn't work that way last season!

So how convenient. Her arrogant shittery that should have ended the world doesn't.

There's another element to it, also: Aang has values and principles. He doesn't want to kill, he abhors violence, he's a vegetarian, he wants to be friends with everyone and have a carefree life.

Korra, on the other hand, can be summed up with her first line of the series, "I'm the Avatar, you gotta deal with it!!" – She's powerful and special and deserves special treatment and no one can tell her otherwise.

It's the perfect set up for her character arc about learning humility and putting other people first. The character arc that NEVER HAPPENS. How did they fuck up what should have been a simple story?

This thread is making me want to rewrite the first season into something not shit. Maybe once I've finished my current project.

You should turn it into a graphic novel.

Who would she be with though?

I dunno, if you'd redo the entire series and fix all the mistakes, it could make a decent story.

Redoing the story? Jeez…and here I am just working with the shit they have and trying to fix it.

One thing to remember is to remove anything Wan related. Redoing it to make it fit in the lore or doing something similar to the concept. Just don't do it. You have to really dedicate yourself, if you're gonna go super far back in time, to studying the lore and making everything fit properly as much as possible. Otherwise you end up like Korra.

Or have it be that Wan is full of crap and a well-known bullshitter.

You'd have to really dedicate yourself to it.

Well, was going to have some ancient spirit basically saying "Yeah..Wan is full of crap, here's how it really goes"

That would be neat. Or heck, you can just have a spirit go:

"But Wan's only 345 years old in spirit years. He literally could not have been present for the events he says he was for"

There, stupidity diffused.

I'll bite. Another idea could just be to say:

"Look, all that talk about Wan being the first and just easily gaining abilities from Lion Turtles is just a bunch of horseshit. Heck, Wan's a known bullshitter..you see, Raava and Vaatu thing? Not the spirits of good and evil but of order and chaos..even then they are fragments of the great spirit of Order and Chaos"

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This is actually better than what I had in mind. You see what I had in mind is that thanks to what Korra did, the Spirit World is now at an imbalance to the point that the Spirit World is in turmoil to the point of war, and both Order and Chaos had chosen their champions in certain humans as they brought their war to the Human World and that war also awakened powerful and somewhat primal spirits, wreaking havoc in both worlds..of course this is during the follow up series

And the 4th series? Humans are getting payback and planning to invade the Spirit World..and ends with humans losing connection to the Spirit World…thus Bending left the world.

No, just get rid of it. The entire story absolutely rapes the lore of the show pass just Wan being a cunt. Just leave the Avatar's origin a mystery, never address it. In fact, fuck season 2. if you're going to do season two, just do the civil war aspect and explores those themes instead of the spirits. Though really, if it was me, I'd just stick to the Equalist plot throughout the entire series and make them the main baddies

Regarding the Avatar's origin I remember the old Nickelodeon site said that the Avatar spirit is the spirit of the earth itself.

The problem with this though, I believe, is the fact Wan is still just a cunt as oppose to being a good Avatar, which is the entire point of the Avatar.
Just cut him out, he doesn't work at all in the series.

The original idea of Korra was that it would be limited to one season in one city, which is why it shits the bed even harder when they leave the city at the start of season 2. Being a smaller setting and a shorter story would tie into Tenzin and Korra's character arcs (where they each compare themselves to Aang - there's even a giant statue of him so they could have had neat visuals for this) except that they didn't keep the story limited like it was originally intended to be and the characters didn't have arcs at all.

The more I think about it the more I'm convinced that the Republic City setting and characters were invented by someone else and then given to Bryke, who then made the shitty love triangle plot Aaron stopped them from doing in AtLA and then made three more seasons of shit without a plan or thinking at all.

I heard some executive meddling may have happened? The more I read of this though it seems like its mostly Bryke's fault.

Nickelodeon did jerk them around with exactly the number of episodes they were expected to make and whether or not it would be continued but that isn't an excuse for fucking up the way they did.

How I could do it, is that the recurring antagonist in secret would be some spirit of envy/resentment or such that influences Mortals (Or more like finds likeminded ones and empowers them) in order to destroy the balance

The idea being that Wan was a false usurper avatar, aided by vile spirits or the like that allowed him to replicate the avatars powers to an extent.
At the time the Avatar through circumstance became an isolated hermit, and only understood his powers later in life, but had a deep connection to nature because he did not know the world of the humans.

Wans story goes against everything the avatar universe is about. It's misanthropic, its stupid, its binary, it portrays cycles as just goods or evils.

And that could be really interestingly played into. Wan is an antagonist that sees himself as a hero trying to end an unjust cycle by siding with "The good guys". Could make for a very shamamamalan twist when he's revealed to be a fraud.

He was functionally a spirit bender. Previously it was established that de-powering a bender was the domain of spirit bending. Having that power through bloodbending (which seemed to just be a handwave) doesn't change the magnitude of the power.

It's actually just good in general that Zuko relapsed because Mako died. If he had joined Iroh they would have had a much harder time rewriting season 3 around Mako's absence.

So is someone going to storytime the new issue? I want to see how much of a train-wreck it is.

No one has the torrent yet. The only thing I can find is a Brazilian version and it's in Portuguese.
Either someone has to bite the bullet and buy a copy and upload it here or just wait.

I liked the bloodbending idea, since it made it effectively a more permanent version of the chi-blockers chakra point sealing ability, which already existed and wasn't a dragon-turtle deus ex machina asspull. But then the problem was that they used a dragon-turtle deus ex machina asspull to get rid of it instead of reversing it in a way that made sense so it really wasn't functionally any different than spiritbending bullshit powers.

If you are going to redo the story I suggest a few things.

1)Make the villains: capitalists and/or socialists. The last series are about what happened during wars. This series should be about issues during peace times. Greedy merchants and big governments bureaucrats are never going away. And it could be a far better dynamics than what it had been. Both factions could be equally powerful and evil and Korra is caught at the middle, trying to defeat one faction only to allow another one more power.
2) Remove whatever conflicts between benders and non-benders. They were almost non-existence in the first series and for a good reason. With excellent martial arts, inventions, or general wits, the non-benders are at equal footing and sometimes better than the benders. They are also tight-knit families, why would they want to destroy or oppress their own flesh and blood.
3) Better Avatar Gang. I said before, the Korra gang are fucking boring. Every personalities of them are just a rehash of the old Aang ones and worse. Make it more interesting. Let just say we have one money-loving scumbag, one absent-minded alchemist or something.
4) Get out of republic city. The best part of ATLA is the world building: we got to see different culture, different characters, different art styles, different martial arts. The first season of Korra felt stuck to that place and it never was really felt alive. It felt dead.
5)Don't ever explained the spirit world or the origin story unless you have created an entire mythology that fit the philosophy/theme of the Avatar. Wan story is shit, it made the Avatar, human nature and the spirits world into a fucking meaningless mess.

The only way to fix Korra is to not have Korra at all.

They kind of did the whole merchant thing with Varrick in season 2.

The series was ok up until the end of season 1 when we got
So here's what you do.

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The problem is that none of those were suppose to exist past a season. Not even the ones past season one. A lot of them have premature closure and that means their characters become useless and pushed to the sidelines (Mako/Bolin, Eska/Desna, Tenzin, Lin and Su despite the Toph scene which I will refuse to accept as canon). Have one overarching narrative and give the characters their own personal beefs that are shown throughout the series that need to be resolved.


You're trying to fix the show, and I like that you cut out the whole Spirits and civil war plot, but it ends up a bit convoluted. Amon's goal was to bring non-bender equality among the world and the destruction of the bender elites so teaming up with Zaheer, who just wants anarchy, is counterproductive and wouldn't make sense that the Earth Kingdom would be an anarchist state since any kind of government would be hypocritical (I know you're trying to play off the idea of the Cold War, but that would work better with Amon, not the Red Lotus). I would just stick to the Non-Bender Revolution, a big Red Scare of sorts, maybe have Amon establish a Non-Bender state.

They weren't supposed to last even one season. The show was originally a short limited series. They basically finished that when Nick asked them to double the length for a full season.

You hit on a deal breaker: Korra's posse not being buyable as a close-knit gang of friends.

You could buy The Gaang since while they did have their scuffles, they not only had strong cases for traveling together but still had enough mutual respectful behavior towards each-other. Korra's posse struggled to find excuses to hang around together (especially Asami, who you'd figure would be too busy trying to run her company to drive around with the girl who Mako cheated on her with). Complete with Mako changing jobs.


Which is odd, considering how LoK tried to suggest the lead antagonists had legitimate cases for their actions. Korra never proposed any alternatives to address their grievances.


The notion Korra struggled more can be countered by pointing out how Aang had more characters who were presented as matches for him in battle without resorting to cheap tricks or gimmicks (see Zhao, Zuko, and Azula). Meanwhile Korra started her show having already mastered most of the elements and so they had to keep resorting to letting enemies get cheap power-ups or brand new bending or whatever.

The sure approach to redoing LoK is to cut out Vaatu for Koh, make Amon with Unalaq with Zaheer into one character, don't turn Verrick into goofy sidekick, and let Kuvira have a solid characterization.

That's 3 major villains. A holy man who belongs to radical sect that preaches contempt for unearned authority and respect for human excellence (with the Avatar held as a force holding back human potential) who traveled to the spirit world where he learned spiritbending from Koh's aid.

The series suffered from figuring out what to do next.

And it was shit, along with the rest of the spirit wars.

I confessed one thing, I never made it past season 2. All the conflicts are forced and out of common sense. In ATLA, benders and non-benders are never divided, it isn't a racial, or class thing, some were lucky to be born benders and some were not. It is liked getting jealous of your children because they can do math, physics and you can't. The spirit wars, again, there is no need for any conflicts. They just forced it out for no reason.

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It's amazing that the writers were so incompetent that they couldn't think of a reason for a SPORTS TEAM to spend time together or actually like each other.

It might have been more suitable if the Anti-Bender hostility was an Anti-Fire Nation one akin to the modern day contempt China and Korea have towards Japan. But yes, the notion that despite the lack of tensions between benders and non-benders in TLA, Amon was able to amass an army capable of conquering Republic City from them being sore about benders is silly. Especially since apparently Raiko getting appointed was supposed to magically fix it. But then they had Raiko as a pencil pusher getting in Korra's way (and even then his plans were solid enough).

Is bad at drawing

Just turn your brain off and fap to the hot lesbians.

That's how the leftists get you

If you turn your brain off why the fuck you even need a drawing?

Man, back in my day good fapping art was treated seriously. Now any hack with a pencil smudges out some garbage and some desperate loser will defend it.

Yeah and he can fix Gundam Seed while he's at it.

LoK is pretty shamelessly liberal propaganda

The villians in order of appearance are

Northern and Southern water tribe lived in the city and were suddenly at odds with each other. And he says he will do nothing about it. Later on he says that nothing is going to happen, so then he asks the military to set up a naval defense - for the nothing that is going to happen.
And in season 4 he has Kuvira do whatever without any checks nor balances (then again it doesn't make sense in the first place as to what help they gave Kuvira on their end,) and is confused when she won't step down from democratically elected power. Also he intended to put the Earth Queen's distant relative on the throne to control with advisors like how Long Feng controlled the Earth King back in Airbender.
His plans were like the plans of every adult in LoK who is not Fire Lord Izumi: incompetent.


Because the only reason any of the three would have for sticking around was because he was the Avatar's boyfriend. And even then he doesn't have to stick around since Suki doesn't follow Sokka around nor Mai follow Zuko in every scene. Bolin was just there because his brother was the one the girls were interested in, and Asami had the Equalist plot but then her plot in season 2 was given to the brothers because they didn't know how to write Asami other than being a love interest. None of the sports team should have been together because it wasn't relevant to any of them since they drop the subject immediately and there are other surefire ways of making money plus they could have just lived on Air Temple Island as acolytes in the first place.


Korra did present a neutral stance at first against the North in season 2. But that fell apart right away. Everyone was telling her to not get involved, with Varrick wanting to start the war so he kidnaps Unalaq. Then they want her to join the war. And she tells Zaheer to not use his gift for this vendetta after hearing him out and their conversation ends because Zaheer never would have listened anyway given how he kills people (denies them freedom) while he pontificates about freedom. And they had Korra talk to Kuvira but to have Korra side with Kuvira would look weird when all her family and friends are on the other side.
It's all a mess like you say. The fixes have to start immediately from the first episode and characters have to be reworked or cut from the show.


This would be the best option though. If you are only given 12 episodes and your only idea is "the opposite of Aang" then just continue the journey of the Gaang in those 12 episodes since that is all you are given. The audience already knows the characters, so if you make another story involving them you just have to work on an opposing force and setting, if it takes place in a different location or time frame.

Gundam Seed wasn't that bad

They already made a fixed version of SEED. It's called "Mobile Suit Gundam". Weird that they made it first, but they definitely fixed it.

They planned to do season 4 where they find Zuko's mom. I heard some rumor when watching E;R's vid that said that Aaron Ehasz had an idea about there being a missing Avatar or something? I don't know if that is true or not.

If the comics are anything to go by we can only be glad they didn't

Back to leftypol.

The writers of LoK should get an award for how much they fucked up the villains. I mean, LoK has abysmal writing all over, but the villains are a botched job at every turn. No Azula and Zuko here, just poorly written and implanted buffoons and strawmen.

It's a pity they didn't play Amon straight, him being a victim of a firebender that killed his whole family and disfigured him. I don't even know why the fuck they even did the whole shitty "twist" since it adds nothing of substance to the plot.

I guess they figured it was now the turn of the waterbenders to be the bad guys and the writers were too stupid to figure out a good way to go about it so they went with LOL SPIRITS.

At least the guy had a point. The Avatar maintains an artificial balance in the world, keeps humanity from progressing and unifying. It's no coincidence that the Fire Nation made technological leaps and bounds in the 100 years there was no Avatar around, and it's no coincidence the post-racial utopia free of hate that is Republic City came about after such a period. If Aang didn't have his bitchfit and ran away the Fire Nation would never have had the space and time to build up their industry and drag the world into modernity, the Earth Kingdom would still have remained a despotic, oppressive monarchy. But, you know, that's all fine and dandy because MUH BALANCE. The world would be a better place without the Avatar.

The really hilarious part is that this, and her going completely homicidal on everyone, was the only way they could make her the bad guy.

Rewind back to the beginning of the season. The Earth Empire is complete chaos, anarchy and lawlessness is rampant as the nation tears itself apart now that the ruling dynasty has been extinguished. What does the ruling council of Republic City decide to do? Put a hedonistic, self-absorbed manlet of a puppet on the throne. A person that is completely lacking in the skills necessary to restore law and order in the realm.

Kuvira calls out to her old mentor to step up to the plate and assume control, since she is the only person around with the clout, power and seniority to pull it off, but the old hag bitches out like she does every time events demand she rise to the occasion, so Kuvira goes and tries to do what is best for the people the only way she knows, but since the writers are incompetent ass monkeys they are incapable of having a conflict between the protagonist and the antagonist without a clear Good vs Evil, so Kuvira becomes Hitler.

Azula should have lit her ass on fire on the spot.

It's not bad…it's terrible and Destiny was even worse


He's right…but there is something good that came out of SEED, it's the Astray series.

Reminder that those comics had none of the writing staff from ATLA and are therefore not only non-canon, but are also not indicative of what would have occurred had they gotten that 4th season.

I think the nu-and-edgy avatar is worse

This one was literally who

Spirit vines are dumb too, the metal-bending-controlled robot was cool though

I'm just saying, Amon's "true" motivation was lame anyway since it's blatantly obvious the world doesn't give two shits about benders, them being reduced to a circus attraction. At least they could have given him a more logical reason to stir up shit.

I'm failing to see the issue here. He was under no obligation to play World Police.


So, he did something?


Until she went full coup she did a solid enough job keep order in the Earth Kingdom.


So she caught him off-guard.


And? Putting the queen's closest available relative up is solid enough for having a force for stability. If Kuvira had aided him it would have surely worked.

Not seeing your source for saying Raiko is a mess of a leader. From what's been shown he ranks with Lin (another punching bag) as being the most worthy characters.

You don't put an incompetent manlet in charge if you want stability.

If only the competent person had played second fiddle to the puppet. Her whole reason for rejecting the offer is because she saw he was a dunce.

Not a missing Avatar. Missing airbenders. So Aang wouldn't have been the last airbender, which is stupid (if those 4th season rumors are true).

Oh god, guys, it's worse than I could have imagined. I mean, I actually didn't mind Asami winning with the Korrabowl in the end. Hot girls making out is something I have no problem with. But this comic is literally just gay pandering. Korra literally comes out to her parents, Kya also says she's a lesbian. Apparently they need to say that Avatar Kiyoshi was bisexual too and talk about how the nations deal with homosexuality. This is the kind of bullshit I can't stand. It can't just to be two girls making out, no they have to moralize. Also apparently the comic fanwanks Zhu-Li too for grrrrrl power.

I didn't actually read it by the way, this is me seeing someone else's reactions second-hand. In any case, E;R is apparently doing a video on it, which goddamn it deserves.

Again, the manlet in question is the queen's closest living relative. They live in a monarchy where even a man like Long Feng (a commoner) had to hide behind his puppet's throne. From the standpoint of legitimatcy Kuvira, even if popular, is an usurper.


She was serious about her little Earth Empire movement that would chase out the foreign devils while Prince Wu was dandy about cutting deals with RC. He could have been capable and she would still would have opposed him for having Raiko on his Friend List.

Still not seeing the mess of a leader.

Her father was an incompetent buffoon, she was a spiteful harpy, and the next in line is a manlet cretin. I think most people would agree it's time to end the inbred dynasty.

People didn't seem to give much of a shit about that. In fact, no gives us a fuck what you are so long as you bring in the results. The monarchy was not popular no one shed all that many tears the empresses got chocked to death.

That was a character assassination on the part of the writers when they finally realized the antagonist actually had a point, so they made her Hitler.

And I bet you don't mind netorare and cuckolding either, degenerate.

I hate both. But I'm pretty sure that particular bit of yuri involved neither. It doesn't matter regardless, since they ruined it immediately. Why is it only the japs can do this stuff right?

Westerns pander to butch dykes, Nips pander to men.

Korra and Asami were pretty much typical lipstick lesbians, but the whole making it about issues thing is indeed something a tumblr dyke would write.

They were pretty female characters. I don't think the dyke thing was planned until the very last season, and likely not until the very last episode. It was just a cheap way to escape criticism. Inject some leftist bullshit and if anyone complains just call them racist/bigoted/homophobic.

All of it is a step on the path of being a cuck.

Kill yourself, this isn't fucking unofficial fanfic shit where Korra eats Asami alive, this perverts and pisses on the Avatar franchise and legacy. You can get that kind of yuri fetish shit online without it affecting the show but it being in the show itself causes massive fucking problems in the narrative.

What does it pervert exactly? All the other terrible romance in the show that was equally terrible? Mako was a shitty cuck. Honestly, I don't have a problem with a yuri end if they don't get political with it. But they got political with it, so it sucks. Because westerners can't learn a goddamn thing from the japs, it seems.

It sullies the work, and it panders to the wrong people. Granted yes, the other romances in the show were horrible, but Korra getting together with someone that she cucked is plausible? Not only she's a horrible person, but also by far the worst avatar that does not have a shred of humanity and decency within her spirit unlike her past lives. The whole idea of Asami getting it on with Korra is more of a yuri fanfiction idea than an idea to be used for canon.

Some probably do, but seeing how people in current year react to things and how horrible the western industry is moonland's industry isn't all great either, but at least you have creative freedom, they either hid that fact while work on a shit show, or give up their dreams and their nip based ideals.

I literally said in that same fucking post what it perverted.
You should have seen it coming in the fucking first place.

Of course not, it was never an idea in their until after Tumblr shipped it and the only people who defend Bryke and Korrasami are the same cucks who browse shit like the Avatar wiki.

>>>/u/
>>>/rule34/
>>>/cuckshed/

Let's say you were in charge of making the next Avatar show and were given a high budget and maximum creative freedom. How would you write it, what characters, plotlines, and themes would there be, would you discontinue the events of Korra and set the new Avatar's story and events between it and Airbender in an alternate continuity, and how would it contrast the previous shows?

>Many avatars have died to protect the world all thanks to Korra's shenanigans and those stupid rugs.
>Next avatar comes into play, and he or she just to stick the middle finger to Korra and Bryke needs to jumpstart the world again. Even if it means to restart the planet once again.
>Themes can revolve around nostalgia, reserving old ways, chakras, turnabout, and reincarnation what may have been lost forever, can be found again in a different form. and the love between the avatar and their lover is infinite, and will transcend beyond time and space.

This is just asking for trouble, but I'll go for it

That seems to be the only way to move forward with the series now that the Avatar universe has been trashed by Bryke's 1920's fetishism.

It really feels that way, and because it's based on the roaring 20s, mind as well bring on the great depression onto that world.

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I wish I could see the source that talks about this rumor.

Is that a trick question, OP?

LoK was the Phantom Menace to Last Airbender's empire.

Set in the post-apocalypse. The Steampunk world of LoK has been completely decimated and all that technology has been lost. The goal of the protag is to restore the world to it's TLA state.

Reniggings is outright retconned. It turns out all of it was metaphorical and Rava/Vattu were just illusory spirits that became attached to the Avatar through wacky shenanigans. Absolutely none of the origin story is canon and Korra's relationship with Rava was all pure delusion.

The climax of the first season is the protag uncovering this delusion and breaking it, restoring all the older Avatar spirits.

The most important part: Korra gets to appear alongside the other Avatars, but she never gets a speaking role again. She just stands there in the background, never getting any significant screentime. She's just a patron of the cuckshed, never to have an important role again.

If you're not rebooting Korra entirely, I'd say go BACK, not forward. Easier to capture ATLA's feel and not deal with steampunk crap.
Go back to an Earthbending or Firebending avatar and base the world a few hundred years behind ATLA visually. Visit the Air nomads as they once were, too. I'd enjoy that a lot more.

True, pre-TLA Avatar with a functioning society of airbenders would be pretty cool.

But then you'd have to pass up a good opportunity to utterly destroy everything Korra established.

Why not have a parallel story?
Have a young Earthbender, the next avatar after the disastrous Korra, living in the post-Korra world and trying to help rebuild.
Have this new avatar grow up without any knowledge of their power, but they are harried by visions of a more peaceful time. They have no idea they are the avatar, providing a contrast to both Aang and Korra, as what is left of the White Lotus hasn't found this new avatar yet.
The visions of the past would tell a story of a past Earthbender Avatar coming of age, and the Post-Korra Avatar would learn lessons through these visions as well as his own misadventures.
Eventually, the Post-Korra Avatar would awaken to their potential, coming in contact with that previous avatar…but the previous avatars are mostly obfuscated due to the interference of a trickster spirit that had latched onto the avatar line during its previous incarnation: Wan.
And so we have a conflict between "avatar" Wan and the avatar line itself, effectively retconning all of the Wan shit as a delusion.

In the Not! 1980's, our earth bender Avatar struggles to find what it truly means to inherit the position. He only has Korea to talk to in Avatar state, but ignores her 90% of the time because her ideas and advice are awful. Season one has him fighting rival gangs in Republic City which has now become New York as depicted in The Warriors. Rival gangs war in the streets as the overextended police struggle to keep the peace. MC is a guy on the fringe of the gang conflict only to ensure that the balance between law and order is never upset. His crew consists of differing people. Best friend guy is a small cheese in what basically amounts to the Fire bender Yakuza, with a personality modeled after Bruno from JoJo part 5 and Majima from Ryu Ga Gotoku. Basically a caring and brotherly kind of dude who can fly off the handle and be cold and unfeeling at times. Acts as the MC's line into the gang politics. Main girl/ Love Interest? Is a non-bender in the vein of Suki or Mai, a physical fighter who uses hand to hand combat and weapons. Comic relief is a character more in the vein of Mr. Satan/ Mumen Rider, a guy who is not bad at fighting, but is seriously outclassed by his contemporaries. Cant think of a short plot, but long term plot in that MC's best friend uses his connection to the Avatar to ascend the ranks of his organization and eventually unite the triads, tongs, families, and street gangs. Have it be a clever take on the "Dark Avatar" theme from Korea season two. This guy has all kinds of benders under his control (even Airbenders, as I doubt the descendent of the newly minted airbenders appreciate being shoehorned into monk culture), he acts as the bridge between world (criminal and legitimate) and he keeps balance between the families. The show ends with the two characters fighting man to man, no bending involved. I came up with this in five minutes.

Anything good about Korra is her character design…

I'm looking everywhere for the torrent of Turf Wars but I can't find one.
I found this instead.
Reddit was a fucking mistake.

Don't you dare shit on /u/, they are all honorable gentlemen. A week or two ago some tranny filth (a single "person", mind you) screeched about a credit page featuring "ubermensch" as a joke and the staff of Dynasty tried to pressure /u/ to change it because it was "offensive", to which /u/ replied by taking all their translated stuff off Dynasty and telling the staff to go fuck themselves.

Go back to /u/

It's easy for people to like something made specifically to pander to them if they're not skeptical enough to feel insulted by it. I wouldn't be surprised if the writers really did lift ideas from avatar shipping subreddits.

NOW HE REALLY CROSSED THE LINE

So was everyone else, literally everyone was there to help you. Fucking Katara did more to help Korra than Asami. Fucking ungrateful bitch.

I liked the fights, especially in season 3.

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Mostly to avoid the problems most prequels have where writers can't resist throwing in "hints" at what will happen in the future. If someone were to write one of those I've got no doubt that there would be some series writers that would try to forshadow the Fire Nation taking over, the Dai Li, and all sorts of other stuff.

It doesn't have to be a steampunk setting if you go forwards in time. If over a thousand years passed and multiple avatars tried fixing the world (ex. One after Korra nukes everything, the next avatar after that tried to bring back nature but the world is now a huge jungle, and so on) but all of them either died or failed to bring back balance.

Can you imagine being a fan of this series and seeing it go this way?
The only silver lining is that the less outspoken fans will become less and less tolerant of this kind of shit. In a few years time, the audience they thought they had will be a small cloistered gathering of 30+ year old childless women, and the young audience they were trying to influence will reject all this homofag feelings shit on sight.

90% of us in here are, including me. Why do you think it hurts so much?

I'm a fan of The Last Airbender. Seeing what happened to Korra partway through Season 2, I stopped being a fan of Korra. If anything, seeing it become such an irredeemable shitshow was cathartic.

I watched (read: pirated) all seasons. Even though I didn't really enjoy it. Even though I knew it was shit from early on.
And I'll probably watch the next season of Young Justice as well, though I almost certainly won't like that any more than the earlier seasons.
Why the hell do I do this?

I started watching Airbender in June 2014 and finished it within a week. I was having an empty feeling of not being able to experience a show as good as it ever again, but then I heard that there was a sequel series on air. I watched the first two seasons while still on the high from the first show, but I definitely had a creeping suspicion in the back of my mind that what I was watching wasn't very good. The third season started later that month, and the fourth aired that autumn, so the post-airbender high was wearing off right as the Korra finale aired. When I went for a rewatch of both shows I was astounded by the drop in quality that I had somehow missed.
I didn't browse Holla Forums back then

Just watch Hero Academia, One-Punch Man and Mob 100. They do capeshit better than Westerners.

No they don't. They do regular shonnenshit with the most minor of subversions dressed in capeshit clothing and everybody goes awall. Its nothing.

Yeah, they do capeshit, that's what I said.

But unlike today's capeshit, there's no pandering and all that bullshit. Moonland's way of handling capeshit is good clean fun, and you should at least give one punch man (in subs, and it's only 13 eps) a try.

Already have.
Now I'm catching up on Tokyo Ghoul Re: (manga). I remember liking the constant suffering going on in the later volumes.

Im not stupid or a hack. I read 100 Chapters of MHA and I have watched like 8 episodes of OPM.
Its just regular shonnenshit wearing capeshit clothes.

I don't lower my standards for good writing because Western writing has gone down the shitter. So I mostly spend my time being bitter and reading old stuff.

Still Shonneny, but more Superhero-y is Tiger&Bunny. That's at least more true to form.

Tried watching it. Didn't really do much for me, and even as a grown man the MCs was still so beta.

Could Avatar be classified as capeshit? Or would that go to Korra?

Um….Fair enough??? He was just kinda nice and wanted to do things for others so that made him alright in my book.

I am bothered by the fact that you can dress up Naruto in a cape and then suddenly everybody thinks about how much better it is then capes.

I mean marvel capes yes, but thats just a piss low bar to beat.

I like how it was portrayed in the fapfic that got posted here, written pre-comic and still ongoing I guess. Neither of them are portrayed as the sharpest knives in the drawer and they fucked up their little yuri tryst really bad. Of course they lez out in the fapfic but that is while being fucked by the H-game style MC based on Patrick Bateman.


What if the dykes are just an excuse to have a harem for your power fantasy wherein you are the explicit insert? That's what I always thought dykes were.

To be honest the fag shit doesn't seem do be possible to be induced, unless the hypothesis about abuse and pathogens being a significant contributing factor during adolescence is true.

I also suspect that much of these claims of increased rates of faggotry are false because in the US Survey we've seen a decrease in faggotry as they are no longer compelled to breed and pass on their defective genes. More likely the data is being manipulated or made up out of whole cloth by those with a political agenda of normalizing faggotry. I see this as psuedo-freudian reasoning, you cannot really change the innate animal so those who go to far were simply naturally weak creatures deserving of death.

SEED's first season is pretty bad by virtue of being a slow re-tread of Mobile Suit Gundam's opening sequence of events. With the exception of Jesus Yamato, season 2 was pretty good.

SEED Destiny's first 7 or 8 episodes are actually good but a soon as they land on Earth it becomes irredeemable shit for the rest of the series.

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I feel for all of you. It especially hurts when you watch it as a kid and it was so unique and cool and you didn't know it at the time but those silly kids would go through some of the most horrifying shit and because you related to them, you felt for them. You grew up with them, even though it wasn't real, you felt like you were a part of the adventure. So when it finally reaches the end and you see how they changed as a people and you look back and realize how much YOU changed as a person while watching this show and how it introduced to you new ways of looking at the world, how it inspired your writing, and how animation can be used to tell more stories like that. And then you hear a few years later that a sequel to one of your favorite shows was being made and you're so excited because you hope you'll get the same feeling as watching that show.
And then four years later, you see this and you realize how much the people you looked up to fucking hates you.

Her being the artist for the LoK comic is pretty fitting. Not only she's a hack, but also a greedy whorra.

Are they going to be Filipinos? They are the Mexicans of Asia, so that could work. Native Americans came from the same group as Asians too, but adding in a Mexico would never work in a world that takes place in Asia. Asians and Hispanics are both super violent too. The Cartels aren't too far off from the nightmare that were the Aztecs. The Aztecs used to sacrifice their prisoners with their obsidian blades. They used to cleanse themselves in blood. It was a pretty crazy place to be if you weren't one of them. Imperial Japan was especially gruesome to their prisoners in WW2. Those fuckers had no soul and were prepared to fight down to the last man, woman and child had the allies invaded Japan.

But why would you put in ethnicities within the avatar universe in the first place?

Isn't it more like allegories to ethnicities like the Water Tribe are based off of Inuit culture right?

That's not even remotely capeshit.

There are already different ethnicities within Avatar. They're all Asian, but Asian is a pretty broad term. There are only three races: Caucasian. Mongolian and Negroid. The fourth is Australoid, but that depends on your point of view. The various ethnicities spawn from those three. Filipinos are Asian, but they're very close to being Mexican due to the Spaniards.

It won't really be a problem unless they introduce a Mexico into the story. That would be retarded as it should stay in Asia. The best option for them if they wanted hispanics is to just make them Filipinos.

How about Kinnikuman?

Guys, I think I cracked the code for the Legend of Korra comics, and I don't like it.

The reason they're pushing Korrasami in the comic so hard isn't just the usual pandering we see from all facets of the (((entertainment industry))) nowadays. There's a more insidious and pathetic motivation behind it:

Korrasami was the only part of LoK that anyone actually liked.

Pretty much everybody hated Korra through and through. Even the tumblr fans didn't enjoy the actualy storyline and thought it fell apart after the first half of season one. Nobody like Rava and Vattu, nobody likes the two forgettable bad guys who's name and faces I can't even be assed to remember, and everybody fucking hated how Bryke wiped every other Avatar from existence just to prop up Korra as the bestest and mostest important character in the history of the universe.

Do you even remember what happened in the finale? Do you remember what it was about? No. You don't. All anyone remembers, all anyone ever talked about was the gay shit at the end.

That's why the comic is basically just shipping fluff with no plot. Bryke know that without their gay ship, they have nothing. They know nobody cares.

Korra's nightly routine

What's the fire doing?

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Legend of Korra from the beginning was an attempt at making Avatar more progressive. They made a brown stronk womyn Avatar fighting a mob trying to kill all benders in a forced attempt to ape X-Men (complete with an evul capitalist). And it never got any better until reaching the point of the ending.

That's not true, it got MUCH WORSE, then it got slightly better than the first season (not by much), then it went back to the original "quality"

Well, being greedy and hacks is a part of gook's culture. Those cockroaches are considered subhumans of Asia for a reason and there is nothing worse than americanized gook like that whore, not even american leftists can compete with gook's hypocrisy. Koreans aren't humans, user, just like chinks and kikes.

Save one gookanon.

You need to go back.
To where you once belonged.

Kuvira was a shit character and the only reason she did anything impressive was so they could construct a militaristic villain. Kuvira was the worst man with tits offender in the show on top of that.

Fuck you and everyone like you that tries to say anything positive about that character. You are part of the problem.

Fucking thank you. I was about to reply to these idiots trying to rework her character. It can't be done. Kuvira's a shit character.

I didn't care for Korra. The world building went to shit and seriously went against the whole idea of eastern culture. Not only did the whole idea of prejudice was stupid as fuck but everything about Korra the character just fucking maddening. Aang found out that as the avatar you cannot force people into peace and that's okay. But with Korra she forced FUCKING EVERYONE to accept her and like her and plus she didn't know how the world worked.

Aang - Fucking wisdom of Buddhism.

Korra - Fucking god damn over hyped like no one's cunt.

When? Because he got the Fire Nation to accept peace and with Zuko taking the throne the peace got instituted. The Water Tribes are at peace. The Earth Kingdom is at peace. There was nothing to force since the only opposing force was the Fire Nation. Aang didn't find out anything.

I think you nailed it, user.

I feel you, when I start a show I have to keep watching it. That's why I don't like starting shows, the only ones I have been able to kick were The Simpsons and Family Guy, but I think that's only because those shows have a million episodes and there is a limit to how much shit even I can take.