Holla Forums is not left, true left is anti authoritarian

Communism is the cherrypicked universal ideal that fails because it is not the universal ideal.

Also because of chaos you can point in the right direction, but never quite find the sweet spot.

Communism is further away from that sweet spot than the right.

I have often though that today's "lefties" are in fact missing something. But what makes something true left? You seem to be describing anarchy. Where does that fit in? Socialism and communism have always seemed pretty authoritarian to me, at least in every example of practice so far. Left and right wing make little sense in the real world it seems.

Leftists are authoritarian, it's just that they make ineffective authoritarian laws like hate speech laws and fines for proniuns.

Then what is "the left." You have to be specific here or no one will know what you mean. Is it anarchic? Is it individualistic?

It's because there is no left and right.

Only the true path. The alternative is simply an attack on the true path.
In the past all kingdoms were monarchies with different quality.

But the "left" tries to avoid being a monarchy. A monarchy seems to be a universal end game of the state. Sometimes they have multiple "heads", sometimes the "single".

But a state where every person is the head of the state? Is that possible?

As I said that means it's essentially a cherrypicked right.
The true left is anti-authoritarian.
Which explains why it's turning into a death cult.

The left would have to have no defined goals or ideals. It would need to be free flowing sand. The right is more like sand molded into a castle.

The left is not possibly without a degree of free space. Without room to move - societies naturally form and take on the direction of the right wing.

They seem to be two distinct cultures and that is all.

Ok now you're talkin my language. I read Marx's manifesto for a college class, and I did not understand how this could work, or even how a factory could be run by all the workers. It doesn't seem plausible at all. Also, to make this happen effectively, don't you need to have the "vanguard party" to y'know kill you if you don't toe the party line?

Look at Holla Forums then try again. We seem to build towards something through the input of individuals.
The irony may be that through the free input of individuals - we molded into one ideology.

How strange is that?

Not stranger than the holocoster.

Ha, is this why all the lefties and anarchists in a local city near me have all these "autonomous spaces" set up and what not?

I want to hear a "communist" who knows that Stalin was just as if not more fucked up than any right wing dictator? Was Hitler even truly right wing according to you? He definitely didn't like communists but what that a true ideological hatred or just the fact that the commies were international Jews? I need education on these subjects and you seem to be in the know.

To me there is no "left v right".
Only "what destroys society v what builds society"

But what in your opinion, is that ideology? Is pol socialist? Anarchist?

To be fair it really is hard to facilitate online discussion without some kind of moderation. Also you clearly went in there to disrupt their own agenda and they got pissed. Are you really surprised you got banned? We'd be mad if you did the same here. Saged for D&C/slide.

Yes they are. Gtfo.

Undefinable. It is a meme that mutates constantly to the pragmatic needs of the earth.

It is simply a brain adapting to it's environment the best it can.

Fuck off this thread will destroy the left.

Literally who cares? They are completely irrelevant in every conceivable respect. Even in the limited context of Holla Forums and Holla Forums they are irrelevant.

From my understanding they still have managers, etc. But the profits are shared among the workers. The janitor doesn't decide whether to merge with the other company or not.

We're mostly Natsocs and Fascists. There are a few anarchists/etc, but they're a minority. If you mean how the site is handled, it isn't quite comparable to those systems and mods don't get to wear neat uniforms.

Holla Forums is a few dozen internet autists at most who have absolutely no reach or influence on the zeitgeist. There are billions of leftists on this planet, and 99.99999999999% of them have never heard of Holla Forums, and never will.

ME. Because it's call of legitimacy is that it's a workable opposite to Holla Forums. But it isn't, it's just a "right wing" movement that is further from the sweet spot than natsoc or Holla Forums.

It's an abomination that functions less well than Holla Forums. It focuses on the constructs rather than pragmatic action to stimuli.

Holla Forums is simply a brain that does not register the elephant in the room.

So…is it the best ideology? Constantly changing, instantly customizable? Will it generate the most happiness for the most amount of people? Does that mean that all the attempts in the past to ascribe to and promote definite ideologies with means of communication that were not so instant as this flat out futile exercises? Is this why their old definitions are so confusing and seem to not hold up in real life?

Because the way you explain this, I think you have to realize that the image board mode of connecting with people is the real driving force here.

Makes you wonder why they exist at all.

authority is a spook

Depends on what makes you happy. Frankly no ideology can support the happiness of all people. We all must make concessions.

Holla Forums is the meeting point for those concessions. It's the "deal" between all the unique individual users that use it.

I realize that. But are those right-wing or left-wing. Even Hitler stressed the importance of individual accomplishment. People were not just cogs for the state to him. With commuism and socialism, do I get a share in the profits but become a simple cog? Do I actually control anything? Seems unnatural. I guess that's why people reject it huh.

Holla Forums is a compass that moves when people post their ideals and then debate or discuss those ideals.

Authority is an absolute. It is whatever you want the authority to be. But at the same time when you are in the confines of the state - you must reach an agreement to work side by side with one another.

At the moment we cannot agree with anything left as we are under attack. This right movement is like the antibodies of the body attacking a disease.

Have to check that ID

So these modern lefties, the SJWs, the hardcore anti-racists and Democratic party supporters. Because they seem to always focus on constructs, they are the true right wingers? People who teach white privilege classes? Where do you place these people (if you can even call them that tbh)?

Not in todays world. Old school liberalism is nothing like todays, it's a sick joke is what it is.

The authority is the agreement between parties distributed based on how loud the party is.

There is no right wing. Only different cultures.

I agree.

Why can't I have several slaves on my cotton field?

It's okay when it's MY social construct.

r selected degenerates

animals who have certain feelings, and then see our things and their feelings tell them "no its scary". Then they look at leftist things and their feelings say "this feels good" and then they do this with lots of leftist things, some thing feel good but they double feel good and then they realizing that sometimes double feel good does not work well together because it then feels bad. And then the little r selected bunny goes to sleep and stop thinking good feelings.

Why shouldn't they exist? This is Holla Forums retard, any autist can start their own board here. A couple of leftwing autistic faggots got BTFO on Holla Forums for years so they decided to make their own board when the opportunity presented itself. You don't need a jewish conspiracy to explain that.

Give me a fucking break. They have no legitimacy. They have no influence. They are completely irrelevant in every conceivable respect. The only person on this planet that takes them seriously are themselves and apparently you.

Here's the thing though, we have visual race based violence. Their ideology or culture aims to ignore race. That's it's downfall. The ignorance of race.

That is why the right is winning. It acknowledges race and calls to respect the sovereignty of cultures.

That lack the concept of reasonableness.
Reasonableness is based on the environment and circumstances whatever the event is occurring in.

I'm telling you their meme is failing. Why is that an issue to Holla Forums?

Their meme is failing because they fail to distinguish race. That is communism's downfall - disrespecting to sovereignty of ethnicity and cultures.

Sage.

I forgot to add, because it recognizes race, it can effectively respond to race based warfare.
Communism can only respond to state based warfare.

Maybe you should stop wasting your time obsessing over dichotomous labeling. Whether fascists are "right wing" or "left wing" depends on how you define those terms, but that does not matter at all. You could call it yellow wing and purple wing. They're just labels. What matters is the substance of the ideology, not moronic labels invented to push hegelian dialectic.

Everyone read this

It's the conclusion to Holla Forums and Holla Forums's debates.
They need to recognise race or they will not produce a functional society with the current race based warfare.

yeah, go fuck yourself, OP.

The reason I'm annoyed at you is because your failure to ignore Holla Forums gives them more memetic power than they could ever hope to harness themselves. Furthermore OP shitted up the catalog with this horseshit.

No they aren't, you idiot.

Holla Forums will not be producing a "functional society" no matter what they do or think. They are a dozen or so irrelevant autists who don't even have meme magic.

Have you read the thread?
I don't.

I just see:
Holla Forums - respects race, can respond to race war
Holla Forums - does not respect race, cannot respond to race war

Holla Forums is blind.

I guess I sorta agree, I just wanted to put the sick puppy out of it's misery.

End your life and this thread.

Where are you from btw?

I'm guessing your a butthurt lefty then?

The "conclusion" to "leftypol and Holla Forums's debates" was when Holla Forums was created in the first place. Before that they were on Holla Forums and debated with us. When they fled to Holla Forums they were fleeing debate with Holla Forums because they could not withstand it. The very existence of Holla Forums is the proof of their defeat. Holla Forums is their ghetto. Holla Forums is their tomb.

Then why are you saging this thread and not the furry threads?

It's like you don't want people to see the final argument.

Ok, thanks. You confirmed where my thoughts were headed. One dichotomy that I believe is accurate is one that concerns state power and social power. Albert Nock wrote about it.

I think the sweet spot you talk of here is just the place as far from globalism as you can get. That's what people are rejecting. That's why Trump won. I'd rather live under a local despot, whose authority was absolute but who came from my hometown and ruled over just our small area, than obey the decrees of a democratically elected global ruler. I think people are seeing that authority is not legitimate unless it has more of a connection to people in the immediate surroundings. This is why people now hate King Nigger more than ever. He sure as hell isn't local grown.

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You're talking about the Slate furry/muslim thread? I'm sorry, but Slate is an infinitely better lolcow than Holla Forums. For one, Slate actually has readers. The pozzed antics of Slate are actually relevant to Holla Forums. Holla Forums is not relevant to anybody in any conceivable way.

You stink of buttmad.

Fuck off. This is a good discussion. We're trying to dispel the hypnotism of the false dichotomies that we're subjected to. We need to know where we really stand. Go into a safe space if you don't want to talk about things that might make you uncomfortable.

>>>Holla Forums

It's more of a sweet spot based relative to the conditions of the environment of the state.

Globalism cannot work without the respect of sovereignty, ethnicity and culture.

That's the thing, the people need to commit to the authority for it to work. And the left's commitment leaves them blind to racial based warfare. So people got off the boat.

No I was just pondering why it even exists.
I think it HAS to be funded subversion.

I personally think Holla Forums (who thinks spamming propaganda is a good thing) is nervous at this thread.

I still think you trying to hide this thread.

Go spam sage on the furry or pedo threads. The actual forum sliding and shilling.

Gee, why would I want a thinly veiled advertisement for a rival board and their ideology to get off the board?
You mean pizzagate and threads about removing pedokikes from the realm of the living? That's sliding you fucking kike?

FUCKING WEW CHECKEM

Can I not mention other forums now?
Is any mention of other forums instantly advertisement?

That seems impractically fucking retarded.

And I meant the subtle "pedophilia is acceptable threads"

This, stop making those autists think that they're interesting enough for an entire thread.

420/pol/ used to be a great place for politics but the pedophile site owner and his goon mod possy fucking ban wrongthink left and right

Holla Forums exists for one reason and one reason alone - for us to occasionally abuse.

I come here to validity you OP. Your thread got unjustly anchored. Valid political discussion but D&C mods are trying to cleave the other half of the senate.

Remember, no matter what, be a constructive force in society.

t. Ethno-National Libertarian