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Socialism is so strong all it takes is one mustached manlet asshole to ruin it forever
Josiah Thompson
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Oliver Watson
And a century of propaganda against it
Ayden Ramirez
are all Holla Forumsyps this stupid?
Dylan Brown
this
Tyler Brooks
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Lucas Sanchez
The Stalin regime did some shitty things, but let's not act like people hate communism because of him: capitalism was doing everything in its power to subvert and destroy labour movements and socialist parties long before he became relavent
Elijah Johnson
Yes.
Elijah Harris
He was not the only dictator to call himself a socialist.
Aiden Davis
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Jack Rodriguez
Let's put an end to this once and for all
State capitalist
State capitalist
State capitalist
Any questions?
Aaron Adams
Were they though? I thought they privatized.
John White
was yugoslavia state capitalist?
(someone please make this into the patrick mayonaise meme)
Jason Mitchell
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Robert Kelly
No, they were just a capitalist state
Noah Morgan
Mixed market, but also ardently pro-private property…if you were "Aryan".
Leo Anderson
Because Stalin amd Mao personally ordered all 60 bazillion deaths by hand
Jason James
>>>/gulag/
Aiden Foster
Mao practically did actually
Jack Sanchez
Yeah it had markets.
USSR wasn't state capitalist before Kruschev it was a hybrid of capitalism and socialism. Private property didn't exist it wasn't capitalism, but it did have wage labour.
Ethan Roberts
an hero immediately
Connor Cooper
Sorry I should've clarified, I meant that in the Marxian sense it wasn't socialist.
Liam Ross
Why are worker run factories not socialist?
Zachary Perry
Markets still pit people against each other. It's socialist but as a Marxist I wouldn't consider it to be the socialism I want.
Hunter Carter
Oh it did.
Juan Diaz
During the NEP yeah. Not during Stalinism.
Daniel Lee
Yep. Practically everything that got nationalized, got privatized.
And Hitler was also pretty rich, IIRC.
Democratic planning. How are you going to remove commodity production?
Aiden Wilson
There was no private property during NEP.
Concessions were leasing of state property. It still remained state property.
Leo Ramirez
No no, during Stalinism. Kolkhozes' families had hereditary houses, land and cattle. The kolkhozes themselves could decide wether to sell or not most of their production, and keep the profit to share within or invest in the kolkhoz.
Andrew Jackson
Personal property. Not private.
And kolkhoz property was cooperative, not private.
Brayden Collins
Stalin did nothing wrong
Isaiah Allen
Daily reminder that Stalinists aren't Marxists.
Aiden Edwards
Did the kolkhozes pay workers wages?
Landon Lewis
Woah now buddy, you're going to have to answer to rexcurry.net if they catch you infringing that copyright!
Nolan Peterson
No. Why would you even think that? Cooperatives, remember?
Adrian Rogers
They shared profit. Your share was partly based on labour time though, so one could say it was a wage.
Justin Ortiz
That is not correct. Only some kolkhoz shared only profit (those that were growing cotton, for example).
Most were sharing grain, produce, milk, meat, eggs and so on. Not money. Then kolkhoz members could do with it whatever they wanted. More often than not stuff was sold on market (grain got processed, obviously). Which led by 1939 to force state to demand that each member of kolkhoz actually worked 60-100 "labour days" - some turned into full-on traders.
And on what else?
One can't.
Labour was not sold and all produced goods (except the share that state got and whatever agrotech stations got paid with) were used according to the decisions of kolkhoz members.
Mason Cruz
State capitalism is the new fascism. It's anything anarkiddies don't like.
William Wood
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Levi Martinez
I've fucking had it with this meme.