About anti-depressants as a former user of them

About anti-depressants as a former user of them

Every now and then I see a thread pop up on Holla Forums where people talk about anti-depressants and how they are bad and how they're just pure evil condensed into a pill. This talk while I agree with some aspect of it, is not really sound nor fair and as someone who these have helped a lot I'd like to give my inside view of it all.

Are anti-depressants prescribed too easily these days to every single little problem?

Yes. I do honestly think that it's become an easy way out for society and doctors to just push pills down your throat.

Should I take anti-depressants?

The answer is both yes and no. For me personally I did take them and they did help. They made me better, and I'm like a new man now. But I also suffered from long term depression that was not the result of heavy alcohol use, I didn't use any other drugs and I was healthy and these things are key factors that you should consider before jumping on the pill-train.

What I'd like you to consider and do before you start taking them.

Is your current depression very deep, has it been going on for a long time? Or Is it a result of some other bad life choices such as excessive alcohol use?

If you are depressed due to bad life choices of no exercise, heavy alcohol use or other drug use, then I'd encourage you to first improve these. Depression is often linked to your body not feeling well. Just stopping to drink, start to get fit and healthy will do miracles for most people.

If your depression isn't the result of life choices such as excessive alcohol use, and you're suffering from persistent depression then I do recommend you give them a try.

One thing that I absolutely want you to remember is this. DO NOT CONSULT JUST ONE DOCTOR. Many people go to a doctor, they slap a prescription in your hand and send you away. Fact is that most average doctors have no clue about mental illnesses or depression. What I'd recommend is that you do what I did.

What I did:

I went to a doctor, had my health checked in general. From that I knew that I didn't have any hormone imbalances, wasn't generally unhealthy etc. Hormone imbalances due to infections etc can cause changes in mood etc which most people don't realise. Once I got a clean bill of health I went to a psychiatrist and discussed my issues. These people specialise in mental health, they are much more competent in giving you the right help and right medication than any other doctor out there. They are also very likely to at first not pop you full of pills and try to pick apart the problem in other ways. In my case I was diagnosed with a severe form of depression and I was given both medication and therapy sessions and I’ll be forever thankful for these people who changed me back into being who I really am and therefore it does frustrate me a lot when I see blanket conspiracies about this all. It’s just not that simple.

If you go on anti-depressants you NEED TO REMEMBER THIS:

They do not work like painkillers. They won’t fix your problems over night. In fact they work very slowly. In my case I was on them for three years. Many times during thins I wanted to throw the pill in the trash because they “weren’t working” but I didn’t. And slowly things started to improve. I got longer periods of time without depression until I reach the point where I’m in now, where I’m back to 100 % normal. During this I also went to therapy, to really dig into whatever the hell is messing with you deep in side. These two things combined take a lot of effort, a lot of fate in the professionals and a lot of patience.

And when you as a redpilled individual start to lose fate in the healing process remember this. You’re being treated by knowledge and technology created by white men. You’re not eating dried goat testicles like some chink. Just hang in there and things will get better.

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psychedelics are more effective than the jew meds

You're being treated for imaginary disorders made up by false Jewish knowledge and technology and given dangerous drugs that have permanently altered your brain. There is no science to this. If the brain has a 'chemical imbalance' and they are 'correcting' it, then why are there no physical tests and they are just behavioral symptoms?

When we win, the truth will come out about this whole rotten medical system and people will hang for what they've been doing. It's all perpetuated by ignorance in many cases, but at it's core there is the worst kind of maliciousness being waged against humanity. And they even target the weakest of us, children and old people.

I second this. Ayahuasca shamanism cured me of 18 years of suicidal depression.

For those who don't have the money to travel to south America, start with light solo meditation with mushrooms, preferably in nature in the evening. Long-term heavy depression is caused by huge amounts of repressed traumatic emotions in various parts of the body/ chakra system. The plants will help you remove these blocks if you approach these tools with proper intent and respect.

I stopped taking cymbalta as soon as I found out it was manufactered in Isreal. Now that it's out of my system I feel like I can actually feel happiness, anger, sadness and other feelings again. I will never go back.

Im getting my masters in psych in a few months. I also went through a milder but equally long term depression and one caused by multiple factors which im still fleshing out completely but have mostly satisfied myself with.

You are right. However i think the discussion against antidepressants is more of a "freedom" oriented political discussion that centers on the experience and independence of the individual from systems of dependence like drug courses in general.

While we know very clearly that some physical problems require physical solutions and mental problems require mental solutions. With depression its fairly complex and so commonplace that we fail to consider wider aspects of depression that have less to do with the condition and more to do with social woes and demands that equally disrupt the individual function.

So depression then becomes a scapegoat for people to avoid responsibility for ignoring their base needs, whether it be dominance (say with women) or in life and in ones personal self efficacy. or in ones intellect by attacking sources of bias and overgeneralization that are a kind of "thought weakness". Or foodstuffs that attack a sensitive endocrine system. There are so many ways to become responsible AND attentive despite the uncertainty. To settle oneself to "create oneself" greater even if it means exerting tremendous personal effort.

The hate that comes from depression medication is more like in a common form (much like abortion) is just done for convenience and is part of the general hate of convenience over struggle values where they conflict in western society.

Decadence is marked by convenience over struggle and responsibility where they conflict. In many ways depression is a profound existential problem and meaning problem that people face when basic premises of their life do not add up or where they find themselves wanting for unknown reasons to believe they are "less than" others.

Long story short. While i think most of us have enough sense to trust some aspects of medicine. The redpills around psychology are more or less, never actually abandon your sense of personal responsibility over taking a drug.

Almost all mental illness stems from poor relations with authority and or the self and this requires active responsibility, action and a self process that can be engaged and developed on ones own. No amount of drugs can substitute this complex but extremely important process.

I HAD depression for 8 years, every now and then i get a bout of it (like right now) but it never affects my performance because i have developed myself. (It just makes me cynical, lower libido, and intensely intellectual for a time but otherwise i am fulfilled and happy with my life).

In truth, without my depression i would not ever see the true value of my emerging success. I am part managing a complex venture right now and its a lot of fun. Being dead to most things has made me really appreciate money and the simple joy of creating a beautiful space for white people to enjoy.

There are tests for many things, they are just expensive as shit and hard to do since accessing the brain isn't easy. Hence the field is open for all sorts of kikery. Given the success cancer industry I don't know if actually being able to study it in a petri dish would help though. 99% of "scientists" just repeat what they've read in Goldberg's book and never test anything out for themselves.

Ayy.

This is how you know faggots here have no idea what a deep depression is actually like. You don't last 18 months.

All they did was make me feel numb. Never stopped loving her.

Drink distilled water and eat better foods.

Distilled water alone cured my marijuana addiction, I'm not exaggerating, half of the time I fell into drugs and vices are because my mind is not clear, another half is depression, both might be caused by what I put into my body. Now I don't even need coffee to stay awake the whole day.

(must check)
where the fuck have I been?

I felt a lot better after I went cold turkey on my depression medication 12 years ago.

You are wrong. I started at age 8, was put on prozac at 12, and went off at 19. When I went off I had fantasies about shooting up my college campus for 3 months. Eventually that went away.

Depression is like a black fog that wraps around you. You are cut from the world, you feel dead inside. Eventually the dead stillness is punctured by an outburst of anger.

I lasted 18 years but wouldn't have lasted much longer had I not found a permanent cure (which everyone told my didn't exist)

Feeling empty and in pain is normal though, and going through it makes you better. You can't fix what ain't broken, and neither should you try.


Methods like these are probably the cure for most things. Just getting off the sugars would probably cure 80% of ailments.

Avoid them at all costs. They are akin to chemical castration. No excuses.

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i need to iron my will and get into a diet with little to no sugar, I consume way to much of it.


kill yourself, waste of trips.

There is no chemicals for the brain. You own will is the only medecine.

This pretty much invalidates every later experience you've had though. That shit is going to fuck up your brain so much from the start that your experience isn't valid for anyone else. It's like saying brain surgery is a good cure for for feeling bad because you personally suffered from a brain tumor.

That's just feeling bad, probably because of the prozac. You pray for feeling dead inside if you have a deep depression.

I realized my newness too late

Allow me to share my experiences with them. I decided to take a mild antidepressant called "stratera" when I was studying for engineering, the reasoning was that it helped with focus and had relatively low side effects. Pretty much right after I got on a high dose, my girlfriend broke up with me for seemingly no reason. I had been studying these courses basically so I could have a family with her that didn't have to worry about money…her and I had been together for 3 years. Like I said I didn't do anything wrong, but suddenly she grew an extreme disgust with me and everrything about me. I didn't like the fact that even though my best friend was no longer there for me, I was still happy, I wanted to morn and cry and feel pain over my loss, but couldn't because of the antidepressants.

So I stopped taking them all together. The crash is extreme, and by extreme I mean I was staring at a wall with random videos on auto play just to distract me. I couldn't function, I couldn't eat, I couldn't do anything for a good two weeks. I was like a shell.

This isn't the worst part, I started to think real cuckold thoughts, and get horny off of them. Have dreams about it too. Things I normally have and never will think. My dreams were equally as bad, the whole experience over maybe 4 or 5 months felt like an acid trip where I couldn't do anything but shake.

I don't drink or do any drugs, and I wanted to morn and feel pain, I'm a very stoic person, but I do have to say that the antidepressants made this probably the worst thing I've ever experienced and I will not take them again. Tbh, I'm lucky I got back to normal, and most people don't, most people on antidepressants will never be the same and will always have a feeling of dependancy on others. Just don't.

Prozac is used to recycle industrial waste made from aluminum refinement. Fluoxetine is a molecule similar to fluoride. It is a money-making scam.

If you suffer from depression look into ayahuasca shamanism

Maybe you just felt fine after three years? I also had depression long time ago. I would just be awake to study and then sleep all day. I was like that like for a whole awful year and after that period I slowly started to improve myself. Maybe if I had taken pills I also would have believed that they were 'working slowly'.

You have omitted at least two other factors that you should consider before ingesting the pharmaceutical jew:

Q: Is my work life or work environment a living hell?
A: If yes, then you need to get out of that job immediately and find a different one. A job should not drive you into the grave, and you cannot know this until you find a truly good job or work environment. If you think "I can't quit this job because I will lose everything I ever worked for" then you are falling for the sunken costs fallacy and not seeing the bigger picture. Quit the mother fucking job.

Q: Is my social life or relationship a living hell?
A: If yes, then dump your friends (block them on social media), dump your girlfriend. If you are married, then you must seize your marriage by the balls and assert that you get EVERYTHING you want out of it, but often this is just not possible (e.g., permanently bluepilled or commie/niggerlover wife who puts "oppressed others" before your needs) and you will have to get a divorce. If you have kids, then so be it - better for them to experience their father when he is in a position of strength rather than weakness.

Q: Is my sleep shit?
A: Monitor your sleep (get a FitBit) and look for problems with duration or interruptions. Fix that shit. You could have sleep apnea, or your wife/pets/etc. could be waking you up at night.

Q: Is my home environment a living hell?
A: If so, then move.

Q: Is my diet shit?
A: If so, then clean that shit up like it is do or die.

Basically, scour your life circumstances for situations that render you hopeless or trapped and boldly change those. Ensure that your basic biological needs are met. Exhaust those avenues first before taking the pharmaceutical jew.

Acquire a position of strength, regroup, then (if you really want to) thrust yourself back into the shit environment later on. But often you will find that your life is so much better after the bold changes that you will not want to go back, and you will be able to pick apart all of the things that were wrong in the previous setting and realize how messed up things were. You will learn from those mistakes and become better.

Also, beware of (((psychiatrists))). They will try to convince you that the problem is YOU and not the shit environment that you are in. Also they will brand you as "mentally ill" which will officially and permanently label you much like a sex offender, and will harm your ability to own funs and be a first class citizen.

No you're totally wrong on that, like the other user said, that's just feeling bad. Depression is when that black fog wraps around your neck and constantly slams into your brain back and forth over and over again, your whole body shaking with anxiety and never ever getting a chance to function in this entire hazy mess. It's a total and complete malfunction of the brain. Then your mind gets stuck in the exact same thoughts over and over again, mainly to kill yourself, you meticulously plan it day in and out only to never do it, because you don't want to.

Damn dude. Glad to hear the ayahuasca healed you though.

This based user gets it.

There are actually natural "replacements" for antidepressants.

I take 5HTP suppliments and it gives me a small boost, honestly just enough i need. It is a supplementary protein that is a precursor to serotonin. One pill in the morning and my mood is "bolstered".

Hard to describe the feeling, but when i do not eat enough, i get this "low energy" feeling that is noticeable but not uncomfortable. In a similar manner i have noticed that i get hungry not just for macronutrients and minerals (say variations in protein and carbs, salts and liquids due to my daily or weekly activity) But that i actually have different "hunger cycles" for specific nutrients but that eating well generally satisfies all of this without issue.

Getting those serotonin suppliments dont actually make me happier but if im happy, i feel it more robustly and stably. If im sad, its still just a bit more stable. Like the energy thing with food. 5HTP just tops me up.

That's right. What you summed up is exactly what I lived with.

I have good news. There is a cure (in fact there are several) and they are permanent if you are willing to subject yourself time and time again to the treatment: Ayahuasca

i think it might've been a placebo effect OP

college is a living hell because of the environment. Should have listened to your subconscious and either found a position of strength or dropped out.

wew lads

This is really the core of the issue as this is what breaks you down in the first place. Fix your shit before you become unable to.


Yeah, that's pretty much it. You'd kill yourself if the thought of doing it didn't fill you with as much absolute terror as every single other thought and the hurdle of getting hand of a rope didn't feel as insurmountable as everything else. Nothing works. Every single thing is pure terror like you've never felt before.

Oh, and I don't know what my tone comes across as but I'm not blaming anyone for having the wrong idea. I thought I knew what depression was like after feeling like absolute shit for years before the real depression hit.

It's completely different from what you described, and no, you don't last 18 years with that.

I couldn't even see a hammer next to some friend. My mind was really fucked. I felt these desires and then I felt extremely guilty.

Also depression is good in certainly way. Because you either gather forces to improve yourself or you just kill yourself. You went through 18 years of suffering because your drugs supress this natural course.

Here in the UK we traditionally avoid prescribing anti-depressants or indeed any mind altering drugs.
Our doctors favour psychiatric therapy. With drugs as a last resort.

But in recent years especially in cities we've seen a push for a more American outlook on drugs.
Namely ALL OF THE PILLS GET EM IN YER!
Especially with kids.
Whereas before you'd spend some time with a shrink and have some other tests done to see if theres a physical cause usually resulting in a long term fix you instead get strung out on expensive drugs for life.
It wastes money. Fucktons of it.

Back in the old days the NHS massively favoured putting in a bit more effort initially to get a better long term outcome.
Guy breaks his leg, they slap a cast on it but decide to keep him in for a few days until it properly starts to heal. Because he'll probably smack it about a bit or something and they don't want to see his stupid ass again unless they have to.

You people are honestly worse than vegans. No, not even that - you're worse than anti-vaxxers. I sincerely hope every person in this thread dies an agonizing death.

t. someone who actually fucking suffers from mental illness and whose life was saved by psychiatry

Antipsychotics are serotonin inhibitors if I remember correctly, antidepressants release seratonin.

So do magic mushrooms, but in a larger amount.

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I know a lot of people who have been diagnosed depression, bipolar disorders, or what have you. I probably should be diagnosed too, but I don't want to be and I sure as hell don't want to take something that alters my brain chemistry and the way I think. Modern society makes people unhappy, which is why hedonism and temporary happiness and, by extension, consumerism, are pushed on us so fucking hard. Feeling unhappy? Instead of doing something about it like empowering yourself, buy this, buy that, drink alcohol, have a one-night stand, take our FDA approved HappyPill™. It's all pushed by the merchants. Struggling with sadness is suffering, but I see it as a battle that separates the strong and the weak. It's a battle against the jews that want to see me fall and turn into some obediant Pavlovian dog or die. That gives me the strength to keep going even when everything has gone to shit; the fact that I'm my own man and I don't have to answer to nothing and no-one. They can't and won't break me and that's why I'll continue to live and better myself every day, even when I feel like giving up or there is no point.


Calm the fuck down, son. This is about the use of anti-depressants in a society which diagnoses everything as a mental illness when it isn't applicable in nearly every case.

for every single one of you that benefit from it there's another 1000 people on some cocktail of drugs for no fucking reason other than the doctor didn't know what else to give them.

It's funny, you know? The fact that there are people like you who would rather 1 out of every 70 or so people be unmedicated psychotics, rather than actually admit you might be wrong. You'd rather rather ruin people's lives by the millions than potentially damage your own fragile ego by admitting you might be wrong.

Oy vey, how horrible! Think of how the children suffer, goy!


I'm happy something worked for you. That shit must be living hell.

This is where you lost me. Causing massive immunologic reactions and pumping preservatives directly into the bloodstream of infants whose bodies are in no way ready to handle that shit is pure evil.


No. Some inhibit its metabolism but that's just one class.


I don't think anyone disagrees with that but there's a huge difference between saying you most likely don't need something and aseerting it's the devil.

I have been prescribed trazadone. I've also been prescribed melleril. I am diagnosed with schizophrenia.
I don't take the meds as they make me feel numb. Without feeling. I can't descibe it very well as there is no common point of reference.
I'll try: images, words and noises come into my perception as real as what you can see in front of you. I have difficulties knowing what is real. It's all a blur of meaning. I have a wife and two kids; they are my saviours. They provide love and purpose.
I've considered suicide. But that is not an option as poeple are dependent on me. I must carry on.
As sure as life exists, then so does death. A release from this burden.

Yes, clearly because you consider yourself legitimately in need of them that means everyone everywhere who is feeling sad or distracted should be on a cocktail of medications.

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Calm your autism. Nothing he wrote implies anything of the sort.

Depression != Schizophrenia
Go take your meds schizo, you are not reading properly.

I agree OP.

Most people should try talking to a psychiatrist first, before pumping a bunch of drugs into their system.

Perhaps they need to talk about their childhood or some traumatic experience, maybe their economic situation is hopeless and they need some personal council.

Also, people need to be more aware of the risks of cutting off anti-depressants Cold-turkey. There are major risks with that.

What worked for me in overcoming my depression was copious amounts of marijuana, seeing a therapist once a month, and a burning desire to not be depressed anymore.

This right here anons. Step one is orienting yourself in the fog of war (fixing your shit, acquiring perspective, stop being tricked by enemy decoys, unwitting traitors, and nav/intelligence countermeasure propaganda). Step two is grabbing your compass and replacing every negative emotion about yourself with a courageous and unbreakable one. Step three is hoof it to a position of strength (though you ALWAYS have a position of strength with you, in any situation, called your "unbeatable mind"), gathering up your fallen brethren along the way.

merchant detected, but I will take the bait to mitigate damage in case a naive user takes the post at face value.

WRONG. (((Psychiatrists))) are not your friend. You are giving them a massive intel dump of the most intimate and private details of your life and psyche so that they can whirl it around at you and say that YOU are the problem. Guilt/shame, the old h'white achilles' heel This all goes on your permanent medical/psychiatric record which officially and permanently labels you as Problematic. If you ever become important, it will "be shown" that you sought psychotherapy and, therefore, were mentally unfit for X, or "should not have had that firearm in the first place", etc.

Friends and family, the nexus known as Holla Forums and Holla Forums (the only truly judgement-free zones since participating requires ego death to distill ideas from the messenger), nature, and bettering yourself and others is the only therapy you should seek. Unless you had something extremely unusual or traumatic happen such as getting buttraped by horde of AIDS-infected niggers.

All of you have the potential and natural purpose to be extremely strong physically, mentally, and spiritually, and the turn-around time is measured in days not decades. But you have all been led like sheep to the wolves by (((other wolves))). Observe this facts and reacquire agency over your circumstances and destiny.

That only works if your brain functions at all to begin with, and no, not only things like niggers with aids will make it fail.

I'm not a merchant.

I have taken tons of medicines and still not been at the psychiatrist for a "serious talk". I wish i had been though, before i started taking all these drugs. As a matter of fact , I wish i had done a cat scan, fMRI scan and several other tests too, before starting to eat pills.

This is not the case. The depressed people are known to have "burned" out a part of their brain known as Amygdala, and thus decreased the volume of this part. Their emotional system is completely different from those with a normal neurology. Just randomly pumping drugs into your system without expert evaluation is a mistake. But you do whatever you want.

source:
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Trips confirm.

Israeli IP address, likely.

Also forgot about the blank-slateism. A lot of people in any movement will always be fairly weak. The hippie everbody-can mentality is pure poison as the reality one of the major hurdles of building a functional organization is discriminating between the ones who can and the ones who can't, and as such you need to be acutely aware of the issue.

TL;DR: Some people are broken, some were never strong to begin with. Creating a strong organization means finding the ones who can still take the pressure.

All psych meds are dangerous

This is truth. Just look at, say, special forces - the selection process is very good at separating the wheat from the chaff.

That being said, so few of us have ever even explored anything close to our own limits because we have not been made aware of just how much greater each of us could be with the right unbeatable mindset coupled with a position of strength. Prison of the mind is a side effect of being a fungible meatsuit of modern society, and prison of the body follows suit.

I was on them as a kid. They did jack shit.

Now I'm prescribed speed (adderall) for ADHD.

Are you shitting my? This is at least the 8th thread of this in the past month.

The answer is both yes
Reported.

No one tell him…..

Tell me what? They're very different. Speed = / = SSRI. Plus they used to sell the shit OTC back in the 1930s.

thirded. Cured self of war PTSD with shroom trip. You gotta respect the trip though.

I've gone on the pharma merry go round previously and some meds helped and some didn't. The most important thing to remember is that long term usage is associated with an increase in Alzheimer's and atrophy of the frontal lobe, but I'm talking 30 years plus usage.

On a more positive note, every change that the medication causes to your brain is reversable within 6 months for the vast majority of people. Still be cautious and if you absolutely need them, take them short term and low dosage.

Those will really get your depression sorted out. Anti-depressants will do just that, depress the symptoms instead of rooting them.

lol

Why are you treating depression like you can have more or less of it? You either are or aren't depressed.

Taking adderall still changes your brain chemistry. Every time you take that shit you are basically orally ingesting a form of meth my dood.

If you can't tell the difference between anti-depressants and anti-psychotics you didn't deserve to have your life saved

I would argue against the OP; even if it is anecdotal, but I stand with reason with my argument:

I've been on numerous for years on end. Most have given a 'crutch' effect, in that they alter the neuron pathways via selective bombardment/depletion of selective serotonin. That is to say, that they can "cure" (my experience is 25% effectiveness, max) the symptoms of feeling like shit, but here's the catch…

Fix the ROOT, I repeat, ROOT.. things that ail you, and you will have remission. These drugs do not correct the underlying conscientious factors that cause you to be "depressed". Only when you discover (though self-reflection), target, and eliminate these short-comings.. will you truly overcome (((depression))) to the 100% potential that you can become.