Is homosexuality bourgeoisie? Is it a way for the rich to say they're "oppressed" and "unique"?

Is unnatural, unproductive and highly risky.
But everyone is free to do as they please.

I remember a polish guy told me once that this is literally what they though pre-USSR collapse. Homosexuality was a byproduct of bourgeois decadance or something like that.

Of course not. Before gay rights became mainstream, nearly all gays/lesbos were lower class and regarded as scum

bourgeoise does not mean "things I don't like" .

Yeah, the reason being that, a lot of the time, they face less discrimination in those higher social classes.

Also, those in higher classes are more likely to have the means of escaping that discrimination than those in lower classes. A higher-class kid that comes out to homophobic parents would have a better chance of knowing someone that would/could take them in than a lower-class kid in the same situation.

Complaining about id-pol was a mistake

No more nights on Fire Island lmao

When did this board become Holla Forums lite, with leftist characteristics?

when Holla Forums shitposters started falseflagging here

I wonder why LeftyPol is turning into Holla Forums if you bring up homosexuality?
Nothing wrong with gays.
I think it's socially conservative Tankies/Stalinists and Christians that can't stand the idea of two men loving each other.

Someone's sexual preference, how they dress, or what name they want to call themselves are not in themselves bourgeois.

These aspects of "identity" can of course be used by the bourgeois to serve their interests.

Just as any other type of "identity" in itself contains no class character (such as race, for example) but yet is used by the bourgeois to divide the masses in order to serve their interests.

We need to trigger and shit post Holla Forums mocking their 'white supremacy' and how Muslims will make up 10% of Europe by 2050.

Men can love one another without sodomizing each other. Homosexuality is not love, it's sexual deviancy.

That's obviously just a polyp false flagging

Polyp virgin detected

So what? Class enemies deserve summary execution without discrimination.

I'm all for all gays and 4th genders and whatever. But it's pretty interesting how since the 80s, when neoliberalism and globalisation got into high gear, issues of race and sexuality have gotten so prominent.

Of course it's good, but shit like this bathroom thing in North Carolina seems like it could be organized by the chamber of commerce or some shit like that.¨

Do you think it's a concious effort of the powers that be highlight these kinds of dividing issues?

It's/pol/ false flaggers using COINTELPRO consensus cracking, and maybe a few conservative talkies and/or shitposters.

Isn't it a possibility that there's a lot of Holla Forums immigrants that are legitimately anti capitalist. I mean traditionally fascists were so much better at populism. Why should some working class racist be for the right when they are so obviously out to fuck everyone but the rich

No shit. Why do you think bullshit like this getting coverage always seems to coincide with shit that Porky doesn't want you to know about?

No, sexuality has nothing to do with relationship to MoP.

If that is the case they should lurk the fuck moar instead of all posting together in "DAE Holla Forums was right again ecks dee" threads.

What I'm trying to say is how do you think it works in practice.

I mean isn't it also possible that this is simply a natural evolution when everyone is told that the people with capital are completely innocent. Then red necks have to hate someone else.

yup, they sure are cancerous

Yes it has, since all of culture and politics related to that are part of the superstructure thus they are relevant for the criticism of the base(ergo MoP)

People hating gays is much older than capitalism. It's just a convenient topic to rustle some jimmies.

Yes, and it's retarded to pander to this people because

A) they are a minority
B) they are faggots so they would never pick a gun and fight

This is what 12 year olds actually believe

Homosexuality is not a choice and we should protect the individuals against sexual oppression since we must unite the workers and not divide them. At the same time, we must oppose any group which promote homosexuality as an identity.

Lenin said that sexuality involves three persons : lovers, and the unborn child.

all sexual relations are bourgeoisie

No, stop being retarded.

I hope this doesnt sound nearly as fucked up in russian as it does in english.

Homosexuality as an identity is an interesting phenomenon. Rarely do our preferences become identities; people do not identify as "beer drinkers" as opposed to "wine drinkers", or "apple eaters" as opposed to "banana eaters", "sports fans" or "sitcom fans". These aren't identities, because these preferences have never impacted the way people have to engage in society beyond that given preference.

Preferences seem to become identities for people when having that preference gets you oppressed in some way, historically. When having that preference leads to being treated differently in some way outside of the strict confines of making a preference.

How to get rid of sexuality as an identity? Treat it like any other bland and insignificant preference, as it should be treated.

this tbh. fascist usually had lefty rhetoric

almost like that was when they tried to compete with the communists for the working class voters…

Because homosexuality is clearly a public health threat in this day and age

woah there…i smell bullshit…

yes becuase it is 1980, and the AIDS crisis is a thing…

So you want to oppress gays because "muh family values"?

Fucking tankies can't in2history or in2propaganda.

is correct.

No, we want to protect people from sexual oppression. But exclusive lifestyles and identities shouldn't be promoted, unity needs to be protected. The whole process of 'coming out' will hopefully not be necessary and people can just get together.

This question made me laugh a little bit too much.