What are your thoughts on socially conservative socialism?

reactionary/10

I remember zizek talked about and advocated for Islamic socialism in welcome to the desert of the real. Will post the page when I get home

I can never get a better answer out of a social conservative than "because muh social stability!"

No, faggot, we can flip a few things upside down around here and shit wouldn't collapse, try again.

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well it depends on what you mean by social conservative socialism

With any sort of morality, the thing to understand is that they are in the end spooks. They have no real objective meaning than what you give them. I think enforcing these values is almost a gateway to Fascism. If you have religious/socially conservative views, that is okay practice them for yourself and within your community, just don't expect everyone else to accept them.

Social conservative means using a central power (state) to promote and preserve social traditional values or traditions.

"Social conservatism" is generally just a code word for "Abrahamic values" so if any society is to function properly, it should do away with them and go to actual human values.

Social conservatives of all forms literally need to die.

Completely fucking stupid tbh

I want someone to spell out what is meant by "social conservatism". What exactly are we discussing?

That sort of makes you like them, since really you are just enforcing your own moral principles.

If a socially conservative community wants to live in peace, why not let them? As long as they follow Socialism, we have no reason to retaliate.

Slavoj Zizek made a good point about how western liberalism is basically just in itself it's own social conservatism.

Good to see that you agree Comrade SatanNazi

When are you going to show your tits again?

I guess you're right. I suppose in my mind a social conservative is imposing of their views onto others.

They're regressive and should immediately be made to disappear

You mean Holla Forumsism? Not a fan.

Breddy cool people. Nothing wrong with them really. The real problem are people who are obsessed with social liberalism. Turns out the left became so obsessed with their social justice that idpol killed it for all time, and now "left wing" thought is lgbt friendly neo-liberalism, neo-consevativism, staunchly pro-capitalist horseshit that belongs to the brave, valiant, noble, self-sacrificing people they loudly proclaim they would rather be permanently poor if it meant standing against Hate.

If you mean socially conservative as in "promoting healthy family bonds and sincere relationships" then that's awesome

If you mean socially conservative as in "marginalizing gay people and oppressing women" then that's no good

This, the distinction should be made clear.

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Are we getting slided? Its been a heavy attempt to get Holla Forums fighting against ourselves lately.
Might be Holla Forums and some other leftist boards trying to cause trouble.

What exactly will you be conserving in Socialism? The culture will end up changing if revolution happens, with the end of a capitalist culture with the emergence of a more socialist one

I do like it but it feels like a hollow fusion since conservatives lack any significant discourse or theory.
For conservative socialism to be possible we need a deeper discourse

It kind of defeats half the purpose.

This. Conservative "theory" is basically "new things scare me and are evil and here's a whole bunch of blanket assumptions, mass generalizations, and wild speculation to prove it".

The former implies the latter. Monogamy and the family are institutions that hugely contribute to oppressing gays and women. Promoting "sincere relationships" and "family bonds" means demoting and marginalizing anything outside of that.

Yes because mindless worship of the new has historically worked so well

Of course leftypol and Holla Forums would be against socially conservative adittude when they're fucking NEETs who mastrubate to anime, play video games all day and do drugs.

Now I know that anime and videogames are detrimental wastes of time, but what do you have against drugs?

see

It damages the mind and body, depending on the strenght of the drug.

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