So I was thinking about gravitational lensing or (((einstein))) rings, when a huge eye opening realization came to me...

h is not 1/24th of a day

h is 60 times 60 si seconds

This is moronic. "Light Year" is an informal colloquialism. A light year is not truely how far travels in an earth year, because that is dependent on the spacetime surrounding earth, which is not a constant factor throughout the universe. A light year is defined to be 9.4607×1015 Meters. Which is invariant wherever you are in the universe.

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Yeah, Jews aren't incorrect because they're Jews. They're evil because they're Jews.

ah yes because meters are another si unit, ok, so lightyears are not "The distance light travels in one year."

we agree.

how many miles is that?

your definition is not what wiki says

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You need to learn English from something OTHER than the back of a cereal box.

What?
A Lightyear has a very clear definition.
It's the distance light will travel in a vacuum.
Vacuum means no outside influences whatsoever.
Since that is impossible in reality, it's a theoretical distance that should get adjusted depending on the circumstances.
But since the lightyear is mostly used as measurement for the distance between stars, the outside effects on the whole distance are almost neglible, which is why the standard definition of the lightyear is being used most of the time without any adjustments **except in extreme cases where the error rate would be bigger then .1% or something similar.

It does theoretically.
While it would defile the third law of thermodynamics, in theory is right in his assesment that time itself would stop for the object that reached 0°K.

A lot of measurement shit is circular.

Can some physics fag explain to me the whole "MUH SPEEDS OF LIGHT IS CONSTANT" trope, when it fucking isn't.

Hey cuck, if light is a "muh photon particle", how does it slow down when passing through a different medium (such as water) and then mqgically accelerate back up to pre-medium speed upon leaving that medium?

Uhh, it's true that it can travel a varying distance, because the "speed of light" is a maximum speed limit, and photons can travel slower than that.

Traveling at the maximum speed of light (which we can and have measured) for 365 Earth days = one "light year". Please explain to me where the confusion lies.

You're right, and sometimes we can see comets that are behind our Sun because of the gravitational lensing our own star causes.

Here hotpocket. Daily reminder this place isn't reddit and bans don't mean shit.

If a coherent beam of light is being emitted from a fixed point in space, and another beam is being emitted in precisely the opposite direction at the same time, using the beginning point of one of those beams as a fixed point, what is the relative velocity of the endpoint of the opposite beam?

You shills are late today.

You're the only shill here, faggot. Pushing off topic jew philosophy and dismissing reports against it. Going to debate the merits of Sagnac, Michelson, Morley and Gale? Of course not, because that's actual hard science that goes against your little kike religion. And please keep using buzzwords like shill and conspiracy theory in place of any evidence, makes it even more obvious you're a reddit tier shitskin.

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No you're a shill for making an off topic jew psyence thread and dismissing reports against it and you're a retarded mud for thinking buzzwords are arguments.

Wtf you rave about?

At least you managed to change VPN. Shill

Have the same IP, you can verify can't you? Also notice how you don't refute any of the empirical data since your "political science" bread here is actually about pushing religion.

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Yup. In fact relativity was designed specifically to negate the empirical, observable, testable and falsifiable scientific evidence of michelson/morley. It's relativistic jew philosophy vs scientific method, which is why your only available response is "no u."

Becasue the energy that the light has is always the same.
It doesn't change, no matter what medium light enters.
What changes though within a medium, is the wavelenght of the light due to refraction.
With that the wavelenght of light changes.
In order to maintain the same overall engery the momentum and therefore the speed of it need to change as well.

The moment light exists a medium, and no refraction can take place to change the value of wavelenght, the speed reverts back to c, since otherwise the overall energy would need to decrease.
The important part is that the overall energy, the reason for the speed of light, remains unchanged.

You do realise that the conclusion of the Michelson-Morley experiment was that there isn't anything as an ether?
It contradicted the theory that there had to be an ether that influences the speed of light, just like all the other ones before it, since the movement of the earth had no influence on the speed of light, which it should've had if an ether was present.
The only possible way to explain the results was to abandon the idea of the ether altogether and start to understand that space as well as time aren't constants but variables, that can be influenced and deformed.
Excatly what the theory of special relativity does.

Fuck, idiots like you are the fucking reason why trying to discuss something like that is next to impossible, since you're devoid of any form of logic.
In a kind you are like the leftists of science in that you are unable to think logically, recognize facts and try to bend reality until it fits wahtever you made up in your mind.
Almost like a carbon copy, just switch out the social justice with scientific justice or something along the line…

You are talking mathematically, not physically.

Time is a constant, and space is not deform-able.

same to you, mate-0 please show me some deformed space… outside of a textbook.

wow, they prove that if there is an aether it is not stationary. I propose the classical concept of aether is not more than the photons themselves. (but then again I say that light is a photon particle with spin, none of this wave/particle duality bullshit.)

he wasn't me, but Nice Try.

for real NIGGER.

special relativity does NOT curve space physically.

it is abstract math.

like geometry, circles aren't real either, they are 2d real is 3d :^)

Nice tautology. Like saying "no holes in the ceiling proves jews were gassed with shower pipes". You start with a false, unproveable assertion then adopt any other faiths that support. Not only that you have the self unawareness to accuse others of can't into logic.

I'd like to take this opportunity to remind everyone that space elevator has been retaken from Rach.

>>>/spaceelevator/

Gravitational Singularities- Black Holes vastly distort space as do any large gravitational bodies. This is what everyone went gaga over in the 1930's or 20's when Einstein's hypothesis was proven with cold hard observable phenomena. Black Holes themselves behave in methods that exactly match predicted behaviors using this "theory".

Where black-holes and quantum mechanical theories start to get fuzzy is with the information paradox. Theoretically a black hole has a temperature (of negative or positive energy) which will eventually cause them to dissipate over time. Information is a whole other ball of wax which the quantum mechanical models don't really answer- but such novel theories as string theories and the multi-verse theories begin to answer.

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eventually, as scientists delve deeper and deeper into textbooks, they leave reality and enter a fantasy
instead of forming new theories based on reality, they form new theories based on existing theories

mathematics is also guilty of that
theres also money involved in some ways can you guess how?

cold hard observable phenomena. Black Holes themselves
lmao, is this the best tel aviv has to offer Holla Forums these days?

oh boy we got a goullible goy here rabbi, string theory plus multi-verse theory.

11d chess here we come

This

Of course you don't mention any of this observable phenomena, and leave out the fact what can be observed necessitates even more speculative make believe like dark matter and dark energy. What is dark matter? We don't know but it must exist. Why? To explain gravity. What is gravity? We don't know but it must exist. Why? To explain the heliocentric model. You're just stacking theories on top of each other with one dogmatic, completely counterintuitive assumption at the bottom. Would be fine except you try to hijack the word science in order to push it on people.

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There are about a half dozen logical fallacies which went into the suppositions behind the Michelson-Morely experiment (and every follow-up since then) the most profound of which is it doesn't account for the possibility of an aether in motion.

Now why would the aether be in motion? Why would it be perfectly in sync with the motion of the world? Because the aether is fucking inertia, you idiot. The "speed of light" is just a rate of induction, it changes from vacuum to material because the rate of induction changes in different materials. Magnetism is a different geometrical configuration of aether motion and gravity is likewise a different geometrical configuration of aether motion. They both (magnetism and gravity) change the way light propagates because they are geometrical distortions of the thing propagating light. Light never moves, it is just an aether disturbance which induces an electromagnetic field which induces an aether disturbance which induces an electromagnetic field which induces an aether disturbance ad nauseum. When you have matter (a knot of aether, aether being a 1-dimensional line and 3 dimensions being the only number you can tie a knot of a 1 dimensional object in) you can see and change the inertia more directly because that induction-counterinduction phenomena is wrapped around the 3d surface of the knot instead of traveling through free space (incidentally you can take the unknotted aether the knot is floating in and knock it pretty reliably onto another knot just by making them collide - the aether wants to keep moving and will freely travel through itself, carrying the other knot with it.)

Why does time exist? Nature doesn't function as a result of how many seconds it takes to do some shit, it just does it. Also technically speaking, wouldn't every force be a result from physical matter interacting with one another?

Also where the fuck did everything come from? I mean like, everything. How did atomic particles even form and shit and where did the shit that makes them come from? Shits crazy

There is a physicsfag thread on Holla Forums right now. Go ask there.

Time doesn't exist

Since nobody pointed it out. I'll call upon the electric universe explanation.

From what I understand of it, light is charged. For the most part it can simply barrel past most electromagnetic fields but if the field is large enough and strong enough AND the angle of the entry of the light into the field is narrow enough the light will get trapped in the field and start following the twisting rotation of the field itself.

The light photon / charge would still retain its velocity in the electromagnetic thread and the field would act much like an electric wire does now, allowing the light to wrap around objects it would not have been able to otherwise. At some point, likely where the where the area of electric field widens out again past the twist points effecting it the current gets its charge spread out enough that the light photon / charge can exit out of the field and continue on its merry way.

It would require very special circumstances to happen due to the nature of the energy involved in the light charge / photon and to be at the right angle for us to capture its exiting light.

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If the speed of light is the speed of gravity and light takes 8 minutes from Sun to Earth, would gravity not pull the Earth where the Sun was 8 minutes ago thus throwing everything out of orbit?

Yeah, but for some reason gravity operates based on where an object would be if gravity were instantaneous, even though observation of gravity waves seems to prove they travel at the speed of light.

how magnets really work in nature youtube.com/watch?v=2NogyJ0k8Kw

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Kill thyself

Earth day have been increasing in length due to tidal forces since it had the moon, and more so for the last few million years; current rate is 1.7 milliseconds per year or thereabouts. When it became apparent in 18th century they switched from day length fraction to a constant rate physical process equivalent, electron excitation oscillation rate in cesium. That shit will remain constant as long as the basic workings upon which the universe hinges remain constant, because it is the basic workings of the universe.
It's a pretty arbitrary unit, same as the astronomical unit. It is used for convenience when operating with extremely large distances and/or with the speed of light. When it became apparent the old units were ill defined, they redefined it as 9 460 730 472 580.8 km exactly; 1 meter is defined as the distance the light passes in 1/299 792 458 of a second exactly, and 1 second is the time it takes cesium to oscillate 9 192 631 770 times exactly. In other words, light year is the distance an object moving at lightspeed will cover in time it takes cesium to oscillate 290 097 396 344 952 000 times. The bottomline is, lightyear is defined as very specific amount of meters, and is therefore being a convenience substitute for a meter, not it's own unit.
The matter would have to be uniformly spread and very specifically shaped, like a conventional glass lens, to produce bending. Odds of such huge amounts of matter in space just arranging itself into lenses pointed at Earth, and with matter inside them being uniformly distributed, are exactly as slim as odds of all that matter arranging itself into space cat girls. And besides, we know for a fact that massive objects bend light because our own fucking sun does it a little, and galaxies are pretty fucking massive shit.
It does, dipshit. The cross is just one of the most prominent examples. Again, our own sun bends light from background stars, much less huge galaxies. Take a fucking telescope and star map and hike innawoods in the night, and take a look for yourself you stormfag twat.
Gee I dunno, because there's no reason it would be? Take a magnifying glass and see if all objects seen through it are centered exactly at it. Spoilers: they fucking aren't.

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Magnetism is a polarized geometrical configuration of the photon charge field motion

think polsknot, it can spin right or left, then it could spin up and down too, well magnets channel charge through them in a controlled manner that outputs a nice neat little polarized field of spinning photons.

Thanks for some sagefag (1) postshit. This thread is more about how mainstream theories don't work, not really getting into the mechanics of electromagnetism.

^that is the problem, gravity does operate instantaneously, it's the so called observation of gravity waves that is the problem. It's another hole they needed to fill after removing the charge field from physics. They observed ripples in the aether/photon charge field. NOT ripples in gravity.

are magnifying glasses cubes? Lenses would distort circles/rings. The crosses are double refraction of light through matter.

Does the central galaxy have a cubic gravity well? for real faggots… why is their 4 images?

I came here to post this

And I for one appreciated it.

Thanks.